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Post by sullyschoice on Apr 7, 2022 23:11:16 GMT
Remember it well - McCarthy was a colossus that day in extra time - I was on the terrace at Blackrock end & can still see him plucking ball after ball from the skies - Paudie Lynch was indeed a great footballer - pace, strength & comfortable kicking off right or left. Great memories! Ah yeah Pat Mccarthy was brilliant for Kerry in 75 and v Cork 76 replay in particular. Was quiet in 76 final v Dublin and lost his place then. Was a sub for the 4 in a row team and ended up with Kildare. An honest tough midfielder. If anyone ever watches Kerry s Golden years they will see Brian Mullins got the first point of the game in 75 final after being floored by a thundering shoulder by Pat Mccarthy. He was as strong as an ox. Paudie Lynch was brilliant too and so versatile. A very good midfielder a very good centre forward an excellent wing back and brilliant corner and full back. Two tough men and two great warriors. Did Pat Mc Carthy play with St Brendans in Dublin. They were associated with Grangegorman psychiatric hospital. I played against them back around 1990 and was told that one of their players played for Kerry in 1975. I think it may have been Pat. He was a lot older than me but was as tough as nails even then and ran the show. |
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Post by kerryexile on Apr 7, 2022 23:33:53 GMT
Sully, Pat played with Sallins in Kildare. I never heard of him playing with St Brendans in Dublin and would be strongly of the opinion that he didn't. Coincidentally he played with St Brendans in Kerry, Churchill being his club. The ability to effortlessly out jump all from a standing position was his trademark.
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Post by sullyschoice on Apr 7, 2022 23:56:14 GMT
Sully, Pat played with Sallins in Kildare. I never heard of him playing with St Brendans in Dublin and would be strongly of the opinion that he didn't. Coincidentally he played with St Brendans in Kerry, Churchill being his club. The ability to effortlessly out jump all from a standing position was his trademark. I have made a few enquiries and now I believe it was Brendan Lynch, and not Pat Mc Carthy. Paudies brother? |
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 8, 2022 6:57:16 GMT
Youtube is amazing.
The 1976 Kerry v Cork replay is here. I have never seen this before.
Will watch over the weekend
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 8, 2022 7:20:10 GMT
I watched the opening 5 minutes of the 1975 final. There was more poor football in that 5 minutes than you will see in a full game nowadays.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 8, 2022 7:41:34 GMT
A memory I have of that 1976 replay is the display of Pat McCarthy from Churchill at midfield. It is appropriate to recall it in the context of our frequent bemoaning our inability to field a ball at midfield in crunch times during the recent NFL. Pat appeared on the scene in 1975 and I , like a lot of others , had never heard of him. He was living and working up in Kildare at the time . His unheralded appearance illustrates Mick O’Dwyer’s facility for spotting raw, unpolished talent , bringing him along and knocking the rough corners off him and finishing up with a pivotal player. Indeed, he did something similar with Eoin Liston. In any case, in my view it was Pat McCarthy who probably swung that game for us in extra time with his soaring catches. He formed a formidable midfield pairing with Paudie Lynch against an equally formidable pairing of Denis Long and Dave McCarthy. Paudie Lynch remains one of my all time favourite Kerry footballers. He was a magnificent all rounder, as complete a footballer as I have seen play for Kerry. Pat is a nephew of Phil McCarthy of Churchill who won All Irelands in the 1940s. Fionan Mackessy is closed related too as far as i know. After the 2022 sigerson and fitzgibbon cups, the 'team of the competition' was picked and Fionan got on both which is pretty unusual. |
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Post by ciarraimick on Apr 8, 2022 8:23:27 GMT
Ah yeah Pat Mccarthy was brilliant for Kerry in 75 and v Cork 76 replay in particular. Was quiet in 76 final v Dublin and lost his place then. Was a sub for the 4 in a row team and ended up with Kildare. An honest tough midfielder. If anyone ever watches Kerry s Golden years they will see Brian Mullins got the first point of the game in 75 final after being floored by a thundering shoulder by Pat Mccarthy. He was as strong as an ox. Paudie Lynch was brilliant too and so versatile. A very good midfielder a very good centre forward an excellent wing back and brilliant corner and full back. Two tough men and two great warriors. Did Pat Mc Carthy play with St Brendans in Dublin. They were associated with Grangegorman psychiatric hospital. I played against them back around 1990 and was told that one of their players played for Kerry in 1975. I think it may have been Pat. He was a lot older than me but was as tough as nails even then and ran the show. Sully I know he moved to Kildare and played county for Kildare too but I do know when I came to Dublin first he work in Dublin as a Pshchiatric nurse so you might indeed be correct. |
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Post by ciarraimick on Apr 8, 2022 8:26:01 GMT
Pat Mccarthy was a psychiatric nurse in Dublin for definate and I think it was around Grangegkrnan and it was 1990
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Post by ciarraimick on Apr 8, 2022 8:45:45 GMT
I just googled Pat Mccarthy terrace talk and I see he never even played a league game till 1976 so he was thrown straight into the championship in 75.Did nt play too long for Kerry but left a great impression nonetheless. Played senior football with Kildare later and was a selector with Kildare under Micko Dwyer.
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Post by greengold35 on Apr 8, 2022 9:27:34 GMT
Youtube is amazing. The 1976 Kerry v Cork replay is here. I have never seen this before. Will watch over the weekend Brilliant to see again - remember thinking that Kerry were beaten and when the announcer stated it was a draw it was like a voice from heaven saving us!! Sad to remember those who played who are no longer with us - Paidi, Kennelly and John Egan; on the Cork side Tom Creedon and Colman O'Rourke. |
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Post by veteran on Apr 8, 2022 10:00:14 GMT
Ciarraimick and Mickmack, thanks for helping to clear up that “shoulder” issue. Ciarraimick. It is interesting that both both of us remember that incident from so long ago. It didn’t involve a crucial score nor was it a turning point in the game etc. I think the reason I remember it is twofold and perhaps it is likewise with you: 1. That fact that Paudie was able to capsize Brian Mullins, who was a hulk. 2. The fact that Brian got up straightaway and kick a great score. No playing for a free etc. I had huge respect for Brian Mullions. He was one of the best midfielders I have seen.
There is no doubt, Paudie and Brian were no ordinary players.
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Post by veteran on Apr 8, 2022 10:13:52 GMT
Sully, Pat played with Sallins in Kildare. I never heard of him playing with St Brendans in Dublin and would be strongly of the opinion that he didn't. Coincidentally he played with St Brendans in Kerry, Churchill being his club. The ability to effortlessly out jump all from a standing position was his trademark. I have made a few enquiries and now I believe it was Brendan Lynch, and not Pat Mc Carthy. Paudies brother? It is possible Brendan Lynch played for that club because he qualified as a psychiatrist. Brendan eventually became the chief psychiatrist for Kerry. Brendan and Paudie were brothers . Brendan won his medals in 1969, 1970 and 1975. |
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Post by veteran on Apr 8, 2022 10:17:52 GMT
A little teaser regarding Dr. Brendan Lynch. He has a unique distinction regarding senior All-Ireland finals?
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Post by baurtregaum on Apr 8, 2022 10:24:35 GMT
A little teaser regarding Dr. Brendan Lynch. He has a unique distinction regarding senior All-Ireland finals? Did he play in 60 minutes, 70 minutes and 80 minutes All Ireland finals? I heard that before, the only player to do so, I think! |
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Apr 8, 2022 10:24:57 GMT
A memory I have of that 1976 replay is the display of Pat McCarthy from Churchill at midfield. It is appropriate to recall it in the context of our frequent bemoaning our inability to field a ball at midfield in crunch times during the recent NFL. Pat appeared on the scene in 1975 and I , like a lot of others , had never heard of him. He was living and working up in Kildare at the time . His unheralded appearance illustrates Mick O’Dwyer’s facility for spotting raw, unpolished talent , bringing him along and knocking the rough corners off him and finishing up with a pivotal player. Indeed, he did something similar with Eoin Liston. In any case, in my view it was Pat McCarthy who probably swung that game for us in extra time with his soaring catches. He formed a formidable midfield pairing with Paudie Lynch against an equally formidable pairing of Denis Long and Dave McCarthy. Paudie Lynch remains one of my all time favourite Kerry footballers. He was a magnificent all rounder, as complete a footballer as I have seen play for Kerry. Pat is a nephew of Phil McCarthy of Churchill who won All Irelands in the 1940s. Fionan Mackessy is closed related too as far as i know. After the 2022 sigerson and fitzgibbon cups, the 'team of the competition' was picked and Fionan got on both which is pretty unusual. I’m fairly sure that he’s a brother of Stan McCarthy, the former Kerry Group CEO |
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 8, 2022 10:26:40 GMT
The sporting part of our life is diminished by the demise of the Munster Final between Kerry and Cork. I am talking about the era pre 1991 when it was straight knockout.
I used to marvel at the increase in intensity in the senior game compared to the minor game.
When the back door came in, I think Cork sort of lost interest a bit as Kerry would still be alive after beating them in Munster. In the old days the stake went through the heart in Munster till the following year.
Those games with Cork in the early to mid 70s were collisions to make the hair stand on the back of your head. It must be acknowledged that Cork did 3 in a row in hurling in 1976 to 1978 with some duel players including JBM. There was a swagger in Cork back then.
I am a believer in winner takes all knockout competition. No second chance, no excuses. The leaders emerge and you can go home knowing that you saw a genuine contest where each side has shown its hand and thats the end of it.
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Post by ciarraimick on Apr 8, 2022 10:57:29 GMT
Ciarraimick and Mickmack, thanks for helping to clear up that “shoulder” issue. Ciarraimick. It is interesting that both both of us remember that incident from so long ago. It didn’t involve a crucial score nor was it a turning point in the game etc. I think the reason I remember it is twofold and perhaps it is likewise with you: 1. That fact that Paudie was able to capsize Brian Mullins, who was a hulk. 2. The fact that Brian got up straightaway and kick a great score. No playing for a free etc. I had huge respect for Brian Mullions. He was one of the best midfielders I have seen. There is no doubt, Paudie and Brian were no ordinary players. Welcome Veteran. Yeah it's funny I would still have thought it was Mccarthy's shoulder hit until you mentioned yesterday twas Paudie and when I studied it Ó saw you were correct. To be honest my main memory of 75 final is from The Kerry Golden years video. Although I was at match with my Dad I was only 7 yrs old so my main memories are of Egans early goal and of course Ger Ó Driscoll goal as I was in Nally stand. Agree Mullins was a brilliant midfielder and a real hard man. Not very likeable but brilliant all the same. Son of a Kerry woman. Great to see some of the footage and brings back great memories. Tough boys those times. |
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Post by horsebox77 on Apr 8, 2022 11:15:28 GMT
A little teaser regarding Dr. Brendan Lynch. He has a unique distinction regarding senior All-Ireland finals? Did he play in 60 minutes, 70 minutes and 80 minutes All Ireland finals? I heard that before, the only player to do so, I think! and his brother Paudie had the distinction of winning All Irelands medals in three different lines, at Mid Field, Wing back and Corner back |
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 8, 2022 11:22:45 GMT
This man won all irelands for Kerry in the 1970s. Played in goal and also as a defender...who is he
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Post by veteran on Apr 8, 2022 12:33:59 GMT
A little teaser regarding Dr. Brendan Lynch. He has a unique distinction regarding senior All-Ireland finals? Did he play in 60 minutes, 70 minutes and 80 minutes All Ireland finals? I heard that before, the only player to do so, I think! Correct. |
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Post by veteran on Apr 8, 2022 12:45:31 GMT
This man won all irelands for Kerry in the 1970s. Played in goal and also as a defender...who is he Jimmy Deenihan? |
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Post by horsebox77 on Apr 8, 2022 12:51:53 GMT
One of the best or strangest, I've ever come across was what year did Kerry have four differant goalkeepers in an all ireland final... 1978. Charlie started in goals, was sent off along with Dublins John McCarthy. Initially Pat Spillane went in goals, then Jimmy Deenhian went into the nets as his man was sent off and he did play in goals for a league game in the past when Charlie was unavailable before finally Jimmy was subbed off for Paudie Mahoney.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 8, 2022 12:59:21 GMT
This man won all irelands for Kerry in the 1970s. Played in goal and also as a defender...who is he Jimmy Deenihan? Yes...1978 final. He donned a tracksuit top if i recall correctly and played in goals for a while. |
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Post by greengold35 on Apr 8, 2022 13:06:03 GMT
Pat is a nephew of Phil McCarthy of Churchill who won All Irelands in the 1940s. Fionan Mackessy is closed related too as far as i know. After the 2022 sigerson and fitzgibbon cups, the 'team of the competition' was picked and Fionan got on both which is pretty unusual. I’m fairly sure that he’s a brother of Stan McCarthy, the former Kerry Group CEO That’s correct, brother of Stans. |
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Post by dano on Apr 8, 2022 14:16:02 GMT
It is indeed a huge loss to the sporting calendar Mickmack. I listened to my first Munster final on the radio. '73 I believe. I was 9 at the time. Mick O Connell came on as a sub in a bid by management to rescue Kerry from defeat. "There's A Hero Coming On" I remember Michael O Hehir declaring in his unforgettable voice. Alas The Hero was passed his best by then and Cork won. I only had to wait a couple of years for a whole team of Heroes to arrive. September 1975 and the aforementioned O Hehir declaring "and The Dublin Fans On Hill 16 Numbed Into Silence By The Brilliance, The Absolute Brilliance Of This Kerry Team"
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Post by ciarraimick on Apr 8, 2022 14:17:20 GMT
What Kerry player won an all ireland senior medal before winning an all ireland minor medal?
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Post by ciarraimick on Apr 8, 2022 14:23:50 GMT
Another great pub quiz question with a strong Kerry connection. Name a man his son and his grandson who won senior all ireland medals but each one played for a different county? That's 3 men winning all Irelands for different counties. A little bit of a catch in it but it's fact and a brilliant pub question.
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Post by horsebox77 on Apr 8, 2022 14:28:56 GMT
Another great pub quiz question with a strong Kerry connection. Name a man his son and his grandson who won senior all ireland medals but each one played for a different county? That's 3 men winning all Irelands for different counties. A little bit of a catch in it but it's fact and a brilliant pub question. That has a Mick Laide (Galway) and Pa Laide (Kerry 97) ring to it. |
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Post by horsebox77 on Apr 8, 2022 14:31:42 GMT
What Kerry player won an all ireland senior medal before winning an all ireland minor medal? They replayed an interview with him on radio kerry over xmas, Sean Murphy comes to mind, but I don't think I'm right?.. Work Wi-Fi is down, thank god for 3G to keep me entertained 😂 |
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Post by ciarraimick on Apr 8, 2022 14:38:30 GMT
Maybe but not the player I have in mind. The word "player" is a hint. I did nt say man
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