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Post by veteran on Apr 13, 2022 21:15:19 GMT
Nope. And just in case it's after getting confused in the thread, this is still Gormanstown's Hogan Cup win with Ogie we're talking about. I think John Meyler is a past pupil but don’t know if he played with Ogie. Did he manage Kerry hurlers. Certainly managed Cork hurlers anyway. |
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Post by southward on Apr 13, 2022 21:27:19 GMT
Nope. And just in case it's after getting confused in the thread, this is still Gormanstown's Hogan Cup win with Ogie we're talking about. I think John Meyler is a past pupil but don’t know if he played with Ogie. Did he manage Kerry hurlers. Certainly managed Cork hurlers anyway. John Meyler is the man, veteran. Played that day and did indeed go on to manage the Kerry hurlers. |
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Post by mossie on Apr 13, 2022 22:49:49 GMT
I think John Meyler is a past pupil but don’t know if he played with Ogie. Did he manage Kerry hurlers. Certainly managed Cork hurlers anyway. John Meyler is the man, veteran. Played that day and did indeed go on to manage the Kerry hurlers. John Meyler has a serious football pedigree, played minor and under 21 football with wexford, county, munster and all ireland club football medals with St Finbarrs |
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Post by mossie on Apr 13, 2022 22:53:14 GMT
Thats 3 players that i forgot! Anthony Gleeson Pa Laide Timmy Dowd Some team when they are all included I forgot Pa Laide myself but I'd struggle to get him into my first 15.A def sub though. yeah I thought he deserved more of a a mention , in the 15 though as you say, I am not sure , hmmmn I d pick him on the wing put Power in the corner instead of BJK I think I ll finalise it over the weekend Morgan Nix was a fine defender as well |
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 14, 2022 6:57:40 GMT
I forgot Pa Laide myself but I'd struggle to get him into my first 15.A def sub though. yeah I thought he deserved more of a a mention , in the 15 though as you say, I am not sure , hmmmn I d pick him on the wing put Power in the corner instead of BJK I think I ll finalise it over the weekend Morgan Nix was a fine defender as well Mossie I would be interested in seeing the best Kerry hurling team you have seen too! |
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Post by himself on Apr 14, 2022 20:13:16 GMT
Johnny Culloty surely
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Post by veteran on Apr 14, 2022 20:20:34 GMT
Off the top of my head I can think of only two Kerry footballers with senior medals who subsequently became TDs.
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Post by kerryexile on Apr 14, 2022 20:33:57 GMT
Off the top of my head I can think of only two Kerry footballers with senior medals who subsequently became TDs. Jimmy Deenihan and Dan Spring. There must surely be more. |
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Post by kerryexile on Apr 14, 2022 21:07:47 GMT
Another great that threw his hat in the ring.
1948 general election: Kerry North[32]
Party---------------- --- Candidate FPv%
Fianna Fáil----- ---------Thomas McEllistrim, Snr 21
Fianna Fáil----- --------Eamonn Kissane 17.2
National Labour Party- Dan Spring 16.3
Clann na Talmhan----- Patrick Finucane 12.7
Clann na Poblachta ----Johnny Connor 12.2
Fianna Fáil----- --------Thomas Gega O'Connor 10.5
Fine Gael-------------- Jeremiah P. Nolan 5.8
Clann na Poblachta--- Johnny Walsh 4.3
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Post by veteran on Apr 14, 2022 21:15:42 GMT
Off the top of my head I can think of only two Kerry footballers with senior medals who subsequently became TDs. Jimmy Deenihan and Dan Spring. There must surely be more. Kerryexile , there is indeed one more . In fact there maybe more than one. I will keep my powder dry until tomorrow to see if anybody else comes up with a name |
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Post by Moderator on Apr 14, 2022 21:23:59 GMT
Austin Stack?
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 14, 2022 21:26:37 GMT
Jimmy Deenihan and Dan Spring. There must surely be more. Kerryexile , there is indeed one more . In fact there maybe more than one. I will keep my powder dry until tomorrow to see if anybody else comes up with a name Dick Spring. Didnt he pay both codes for Kerry |
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Post by Moderator on Apr 14, 2022 21:43:35 GMT
Dick Spring's senior football career was 3 appearances as a sub in the early league games of 1975, played in late 1974. He never featured in a championship match.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 14, 2022 22:15:31 GMT
Dick Spring. Didnt he pay both codes for Kerry Dick did indeed but he has nt a senior medal. I didnt read the question.... Has to be Austin Stack so |
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Post by veteran on Apr 15, 2022 10:23:20 GMT
So, we now have three Kerry footballers with senior medals who who became members of the Dail- Austin Stack, Dan Spring and Jimmy Deenihan. I don’t think the likes of Con Brosnan or John Joe Sheehy fit the bill.
There is at least one more.
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Post by piggott on Apr 15, 2022 10:28:03 GMT
Sean Brosnan
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Post by veteran on Apr 15, 2022 10:41:53 GMT
Excellent , Piggott. Sean was a Dingle man and won a couple of medals in the early forties as far as I can recall. He spent his working life in the Fermoy area and indeed it was in the East Cork constituency he was returned as a T.D. , in the seventies I think. He may also have been elected as an M.E.P. |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Apr 15, 2022 13:08:46 GMT
Am I out of step here or could anyone name our dual players?
The only one that comes to mind with me is Johnny Bunyan.
As minors Robert Bunyan and PJ Houlihan both played football with Ballydonoghue and hurled with Ballyduff - did they hurl with the county? Was PJ on the minor panel in '75 when Robert brought Tommy Markham to Ballydonoghue? There was also a few other greats from Ballyduff in that era.
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Post by hurlingman on Apr 16, 2022 11:23:31 GMT
Am I out of step here or could anyone name our dual players? The only one that comes to mind with me is Johnny Bunyan. As minors Robert Bunyan and PJ Houlihan both played football with Ballydonoghue and hurled with Ballyduff - did they hurl with the county? Was PJ on the minor panel in '75 when Robert brought Tommy Markham to Ballydonoghue? There was also a few other greats from Ballyduff in that era. Not sure if Tom Collins ever actually played in the Munster SHC in his day. Same with the Lovetts either. Johnny Culloty and Niall Sheehy from that era would be the same. PJ McIntyre is another i'm not sure if he played in the Munster SHC but did play in the football championship. During the time when there was a few dual players in the 50's and 60's Kerry wouldn't have been playing in the MUnster SHC and didn't come back until the late 70's i think and by that stage there wasn't going to be too many footballers left play both. |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Apr 16, 2022 11:37:26 GMT
Am I out of step here or could anyone name our dual players? The only one that comes to mind with me is Johnny Bunyan. As minors Robert Bunyan and PJ Houlihan both played football with Ballydonoghue and hurled with Ballyduff - did they hurl with the county? Was PJ on the minor panel in '75 when Robert brought Tommy Markham to Ballydonoghue? There was also a few other greats from Ballyduff in that era. Not sure if Tom Collins ever actually played in the Munster SHC in his day. Same with the Lovetts either. Johnny Culloty and Niall Sheehy from that era would be the same. PJ McIntyre is another i'm not sure if he played in the Munster SHC but did play in the football championship. During the time when there was a few dual players in the 50's and 60's Kerry wouldn't have been playing in the MUnster SHC and didn't come back until the late 70's i think and by that stage there wasn't going to be too many footballers left play both. Did Paul Galvin hurl with de county? |
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Post by hurlingman on Apr 16, 2022 12:03:38 GMT
Not sure if Tom Collins ever actually played in the Munster SHC in his day. Same with the Lovetts either. Johnny Culloty and Niall Sheehy from that era would be the same. PJ McIntyre is another i'm not sure if he played in the Munster SHC but did play in the football championship. During the time when there was a few dual players in the 50's and 60's Kerry wouldn't have been playing in the MUnster SHC and didn't come back until the late 70's i think and by that stage there wasn't going to be too many footballers left play both. Did Paul Galvin hurl with de county? Played in the league in the late 90s. I'm not sure if Enda Galvin ever played hurling but had play senior football in the early 2000s. As said earlier Roanan O Connor from Ballyduff played senior hurling and was at one point on the senior football panel. Giles O'Grady played in the McGrath Cup one year and also played with the hurlers around that time before he joined Strand Road. I think Barry O'Grady also played in the McGrath Cup but not sure if he ever played hurling with Kerry. |
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Post by himself on Apr 16, 2022 14:40:28 GMT
I'm pretty certain Barry O'Grady did play both. As previously mentioned, Johnny Culloty and Niall Sheehy were great hurlers. All the Sheehys played, I'd imagine John Joe probably did as well in his time.
Joe Barrett starred for Stacks in both hurling and football, but I don't know if he ever hurled for Kerry. There have been numerous dual minors, including Jersey Houlihan, Brandon Barrett, Jack Goulding, Barry O'Mahony, Gavin White, Micheal Burns, Kenneth, Mikey, and Padraig Boyle, and Luke Crowley and Charlie Keating currently.
On a slight twist, Rathmore's Danielle O'Leary plays both camogie and football for Kerry at the moment.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Apr 16, 2022 15:17:56 GMT
Did Paul Galvin hurl with de county? Played in the league in the late 90s. I'm not sure if Enda Galvin ever played hurling but had play senior football in the early 2000s. As said earlier Roanan O Connor from Ballyduff played senior hurling and was at one point on the senior football panel. Giles O'Grady played in the McGrath Cup one year and also played with the hurlers around that time before he joined Strand Road. I think Barry O'Grady also played in the McGrath Cup but not sure if he ever played hurling with Kerry. TBH I'd hardly have even heard of any of them, didn't appreciate hurling as a garsún - I only really 'got the bug' proper at the League Final in 2019, it was on before us vs Mayo with the big ball, it was probably the 1st time I had a good ticket for a small ball affair and while it wasn't the best hurling of all time I can still sense magical moments - nothing beast being there definitely applied! For others like me maybe and also for the record maybe those knowledgeable on here might put together a list in order of the years/era fellas hurled for us? Ah I'll stay quiet after that, over to you. |
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Post by veteran on Apr 16, 2022 16:39:29 GMT
In football the record for all ireland medals is 8 but only two players played every minute of their 8 all ireland wins and also in the same position. One was Cluxton. Who was the other? Ogie? |
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Post by mafi97 on Apr 16, 2022 16:42:35 GMT
In football the record for all ireland medals is 8 but only two players played every minute of their 8 all ireland wins and also in the same position. One was Cluxton. Who was the other? Ogie? Would it be James McCarthy? |
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 16, 2022 17:07:46 GMT
In football the record for all ireland medals is 8 but only two players played every minute of their 8 all ireland wins and also in the same position. One was Cluxton. Who was the other? Ogie? Pretty certain its Ogie |
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 16, 2022 17:56:41 GMT
There have been a good few parent and child combinations that have won senior medals. Ogie and David for example.
Any grandfather and grandson combinations?
Or even..great grandfather and grandson combinations.....i can think of one.
Finally...any examples of grandfather, son and grandson winning senior all ireland medals
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Post by himself on Apr 16, 2022 18:31:43 GMT
Eamonn Fitzmaurice's great grandfather won hurling in 1891, as did Pat McCarthy's grandfather. Tom Spillane snr. played for Kerry - I think he won a Railway Cup but not a Celtic cross. Jonathan Lyne is a cousin of theirs and a grandson of Denny Lyne. Frank O'Keeffe and his son John. Diarmuid O'Donoghue (sub in 1984, hence Ambrose being the nominated captain) and James. Derry and Johnny Crowley. Dan Kavanaghs son Donie played with Kerry in the seventies, may have won a substitutes medal. Jack and Billy Myers.
I think Mike McCarthy is a grandson of Paddy Healy, very much open to correction on that one.
Mark O'Connor, the one that got away, is a grand nephew of Tom Long and Johnny Buckley is a grand nephew of Tom Costelloe.
Joe Barrett's son John Joe certainly played for Kerry, but I think he fell between '62 and '69, again I could be wrong.
The Brosnans of Moyvane, Con and his sons Jim and Mick (I think Mick won a medal, Jim definitely did).
There used to be a thread on GAA families. I'm sure there are loads of connections.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 16, 2022 18:41:49 GMT
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Post by Aodhan on Apr 16, 2022 19:01:59 GMT
Ogie also won an All Ireland minor hurling medal. Was he the youngest to win a county senior championship medal at 16 years 9 months as a starter?
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