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Post by southward on Apr 11, 2022 12:43:22 GMT
People calling for caution are of course correct but really they're pushing an open door. I think we're all wary, especially given the recent history. Nobody is getting carried away over the league and absolutely nobody here is suggesting that we're a shoo-in for the AI or anything like it. A lot of stuff can happen to trip you up - dip in form, injuries, McQuillans, bout of covid even. It doesn't mean we can't enjoy what's happened to date or appreciate the obvious progress.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2022 12:47:26 GMT
People calling for caution are of course correct but really they're pushing an open door. I think we're all wary, especially given the recent history. Nobody is getting carried away over the league and absolutely nobody here is suggesting that we're a shoo-in for the AI or anything like it. A lot of stuff can happen to trip you up - dip in form, injuries, McQuillans, bout of covid even. It doesn't mean we can't enjoy what's happened to date or appreciate the obvious progress. McQuillans 🤪 you're not wrong. McQuillans syndrome is some dose. |
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Post by Corner Back on Apr 11, 2022 12:52:32 GMT
People calling for caution are of course correct but really they're pushing an open door. I think we're all wary, especially given the recent history. Nobody is getting carried away over the league and absolutely nobody here is suggesting that we're a shoo-in for the AI or anything like it. A lot of stuff can happen to trip you up - dip in form, injuries, McQuillans, bout of covid even. It doesn't mean we can't enjoy what's happened to date or appreciate the obvious progress. McQuillans 🤪 you're not wrong. McQuillans syndrome is some dose. And no vaccine available for it ... |
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Post by ciarraimick on Apr 11, 2022 12:59:20 GMT
People calling for caution are of course correct but really they're pushing an open door. I think we're all wary, especially given the recent history. Nobody is getting carried away over the league and absolutely nobody here is suggesting that we're a shoo-in for the AI or anything like it. A lot of stuff can happen to trip you up - dip in form, injuries, McQuillans, bout of covid even. It doesn't mean we can't enjoy what's happened to date or appreciate the obvious progress. McQuillans 🤪 you're not wrong. McQuillans syndrome is some dose. Yeah McQuillan definately did Kerry nó favours in 2011 and many of us older lads remember Pj McGrath of Mayo (r.i.p) v Offaly in 82.I never had a problem with Darby s goal cos it was just a nudge but the two frees Offaly got before "that goal" were comical. Even Seán Lowry of Offaly said years later he does nt know how he got a free for one of them. I'd say McGrath though it was game over and gave Offaly a few handy ones not expecting them to score a goal. |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Apr 11, 2022 13:10:46 GMT
Kerry shouldn't be putting themselves in a position where the referee can be perceived to have a say in the winning of the game.
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Post by ciarraimick on Apr 11, 2022 13:18:19 GMT
That's actually very true Annascaul.in both 11 and 82 we tried to protect our leads and we got punished for it.If we had driven on the ref probably would never have been a factor.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Apr 11, 2022 13:36:08 GMT
The same posters were on here after we lost to Cork somehow claiming people didn't know what they were talking about because they had the neck to think Kerry would beat a poor Cork team.
A fluke of a goal and a management disaster somehow made those same posters look smart.
It didn't it was a fluke
Given how hard life is at the moment between innocent people being killed in Ukraine or the the impact of covid or the cost of living forgive me if I want to believe that Kerry will win the All Ireland.
I'd rather be a glass half full person than half empty that you see on here from posters regularly.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2022 14:03:11 GMT
McQuillans 🤪 you're not wrong. McQuillans syndrome is some dose. And no vaccine available for it ... father time will sort him eventually, can't believe he's still reffing at the top level. |
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Apr 11, 2022 15:12:30 GMT
The same posters were on here after we lost to Cork somehow claiming people didn't know what they were talking about because they had the neck to think Kerry would beat a poor Cork team. A fluke of a goal and a management disaster somehow made those same posters look smart. It didn't it was a fluke Given how hard life is at the moment between innocent people being killed in Ukraine or the the impact of covid or the cost of living forgive me if I want to believe that Kerry will win the All Ireland. I'd rather be a glass half full person than half empty that you see on here from posters regularly. I still can’t understand how Peter Keane kept his job after that loss to Cork. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2022 15:22:35 GMT
The same posters were on here after we lost to Cork somehow claiming people didn't know what they were talking about because they had the neck to think Kerry would beat a poor Cork team. A fluke of a goal and a management disaster somehow made those same posters look smart. It didn't it was a fluke Given how hard life is at the moment between innocent people being killed in Ukraine or the the impact of covid or the cost of living forgive me if I want to believe that Kerry will win the All Ireland. I'd rather be a glass half full person than half empty that you see on here from posters regularly. I still can’t understand how Peter Keane kept his job after that loss to Cork. I think people were willing to give him another shot due to the Covid but PK didn't take his chance and was a little arrogant in the way he approached the Tyrone game, he had NO plan B only continue to run the ball in to the tackle. I don't know if Jack has a plan B, if he has I haven't seen it but I look forward to seeing what he has up his sleeve come knockout. |
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Post by southward on Apr 11, 2022 15:36:06 GMT
Kerry shouldn't be putting themselves in a position where the referee can be perceived to have a say in the winning of the game. If it's insurance against a dodgy call or two you need, then maybe. But what if he's at it all day? McQuillan was easily worth 8-10 points to Dublin in 2011. You shouldn't have to be a dozen points the better team to ensure a result. |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Apr 11, 2022 15:48:35 GMT
Kerry shouldn't be putting themselves in a position where the referee can be perceived to have a say in the winning of the game. If it's insurance against a dodgy call or two you need, then maybe. But what if he's at it all day? McQuillan was easily worth 8-10 points to Dublin in 2011. You shouldn't have to be a dozen points the better team to ensure a result. 8-10 points? Really?? |
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Post by ciarraimick on Apr 11, 2022 15:57:22 GMT
The same posters were on here after we lost to Cork somehow claiming people didn't know what they were talking about because they had the neck to think Kerry would beat a poor Cork team. A fluke of a goal and a management disaster somehow made those same posters look smart. It didn't it was a fluke Given how hard life is at the moment between innocent people being killed in Ukraine or the the impact of covid or the cost of living forgive me if I want to believe that Kerry will win the All Ireland. I'd rather be a glass half full person than half empty that you see on here from posters regularly. I still can’t understand how Peter Keane kept his job after that loss to Cork. It was nt so much the loss but it was the defensive set up against Cork which showed fear. Im always wary of Cork but that was over the top. Actually I'm my lifetime the only manager that never lost to Cork in a championship match was Éamon Fitzmaurice. PK Pat Ó Shea and Mickey Ned lost once. Paidi lost twice Ogie 3 times Micko 4 times and Jack 3 times |
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Post by ciarraimick on Apr 11, 2022 15:59:54 GMT
Kerry shouldn't be putting themselves in a position where the referee can be perceived to have a say in the winning of the game. If it's insurance against a dodgy call or two you need, then maybe. But what if he's at it all day? McQuillan was easily worth 8-10 points to Dublin in 2011. You shouldn't have to be a dozen points the better team to ensure a result. McQuillan was worth a couple of points to Dublin no doubt but your assumption is way over the top Southward. A bit of exaggeration I think. |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Apr 11, 2022 16:04:58 GMT
If it's insurance against a dodgy call or two you need, then maybe. But what if he's at it all day? McQuillan was easily worth 8-10 points to Dublin in 2011. You shouldn't have to be a dozen points the better team to ensure a result. McQuillan was worth a couple of points to Dublin no doubt but your assumption is way over the top Southward. A bit of exaggeration I think. My memory of 2011 is that Kerry went into the match a better team by at least ten points, and played like they knew it. Unfortunately there was a match there to be won and Dublin were the ones who grabbed the game by the scruff of the neck. |
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 11, 2022 16:09:41 GMT
I still can’t understand how Peter Keane kept his job after that loss to Cork. It was nt so much the loss but it was the defensive set up against Cork which showed fear. Im always wary of Cork but that was over the top. Actually I'm my lifetime the only manager that never lost to Cork in a championship match was Éamon Fitzmaurice. PK Pat Ó Shea and Mickey Ned lost once. Paidi lost twice Ogie 3 times Micko 4 times and Jack 3 times I think twas 30 scoring chances that Kerry had so the issue wasnt creating chances but taking them. That and not closing out a 2 point lead when in possession at the end....giving possession needlessly and taking the ball into the tackle and losing it. Same issues were there in the drawn final of 2019..... And v Tyrone last year. |
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Post by ciarraimick on Apr 11, 2022 16:11:05 GMT
It was nt so much the loss but it was the defensive set up against Cork which showed fear. Im always wary of Cork but that was over the top. Actually I'm my lifetime the only manager that never lost to Cork in a championship match was Éamon Fitzmaurice. PK Pat Ó Shea and Mickey Ned lost once. Paidi lost twice Ogie 3 times Micko 4 times and Jack 3 times I think twas 30 scoring chances that Kerry had so the issue wasnt creating chances but taking them. That and not closing out a 2 point lead when in possession at the end....giving possession needlessly and taking the ball into the tackle and losing it. Same issues were there in the drawn final of 2019..... And v Tyrone last year. You ré not wrong there Mick |
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Post by fitz on Apr 11, 2022 16:37:05 GMT
McQuillan was worth a couple of points to Dublin no doubt but your assumption is way over the top Southward. A bit of exaggeration I think. My memory of 2011 is that Kerry went into the match a better team by at least ten points, and played like they knew it. Unfortunately there was a match there to be won and Dublin were the ones who grabbed the game by the scruff of the neck. The absolution of Ger Brennan via yellow card for a forearm smash into Declan's face was possibly McQuillan's most blatant and worst call. Disgraceful. |
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Post by ciarraimick on Apr 11, 2022 16:50:24 GMT
My memory of 2011 is that Kerry went into the match a better team by at least ten points, and played like they knew it. Unfortunately there was a match there to be won and Dublin were the ones who grabbed the game by the scruff of the neck. The absolution of Ger Brennan via yellow card for a forearm smash into Declan's face was possibly McQuillan's most blatant and worst call. Disgraceful. Yeah that should ve been red but maybe Declan was slipping too so I'd give him a fools pardon on that one but he missed a blatant double hop by Kevin McMenamin 40 yards from Kerry goal straight in front of posts. It would have been an easy free for Sheehan. He also gave Dublin a free in 14 yards out for a Kerry hand touching ball on ground. It never happened and even if it did it should have been a penalty as was inside box. Last free was very soft too and added no extra seconds on. Anyway enough of that! |
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Post by thehermit on Apr 11, 2022 17:32:38 GMT
The same posters were on here after we lost to Cork somehow claiming people didn't know what they were talking about because they had the neck to think Kerry would beat a poor Cork team. A fluke of a goal and a management disaster somehow made those same posters look smart. It didn't it was a fluke Given how hard life is at the moment between innocent people being killed in Ukraine or the the impact of covid or the cost of living forgive me if I want to believe that Kerry will win the All Ireland. I'd rather be a glass half full person than half empty that you see on here from posters regularly. I still can’t understand how Peter Keane kept his job after that loss to Cork.
You and me both, it is almost incredible when you step back and think about it. Maybe being in the middle of Covid lessened the fallout, can you imagine if it was a full ground of Kerry fans at it that night!
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Post by royalkerryfan on Apr 11, 2022 19:02:57 GMT
Loving the Sunday Game Promo on TV...
I only picked one thing the day of my wedding and that was the entrance music... Yep... The Sunday Game...
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Post by thehermit on Apr 11, 2022 20:11:51 GMT
Loving the Sunday Game Promo on TV... I only picked one thing the day of my wedding and that was the entrance music... Yep... The Sunday Game... Ha ha ha, I'd say the Misses loved that Royal! In fairness its been my mobile ringtone for about 12 years, great tune and always brings back great memories of watching (mostly non-Kerry) games on the tv.
Do you recall that during the mid 2000s they got rid of it for a few years and replaced it with some other music I assume it was so stupid attempt to make the SG a bit more 'hip'. Thank God they saw sense and brought it back around 2008 again.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Apr 11, 2022 20:12:37 GMT
Loving the Sunday Game Promo on TV... I only picked one thing the day of my wedding and that was the entrance music... Yep... The Sunday Game... Who picked the wife for you? Reminds of the Listowel laddo replying to an advertisement in The Farmers Journal back in the day, well back in the day, a farmers daughter looking for a man - the dowry was a tractor. Our Listowel bucko replied ' please send photo of tractor'. You're not from Listowel are you? |
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Post by sullyschoice on Apr 11, 2022 20:38:22 GMT
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Post by thepromisedland on Apr 11, 2022 20:48:22 GMT
The negatrons if not sincere are protecting themselves from disappointment. I know I fear the prospect of more disappointment. Dare to dream is high stakes. I know what you mean and maybe there is a small bit of truth in it.I just have a fear.the fear is because I feel Kerry have had the players to win the all Ireland the last three years. Maybe 19 was a learning curve but we messed up in 2020 and last year imo.I feel this year we have the tools to win and are in pole position but once again I have certain concerns which I have already highlighted. McQuillan indeed! I refused to into the staffroom at school, as I was as sick as a dog after that defeat, I was worse in 2008 and 2005 to Tyrone. The 2011 final, Donaghy's sublime S400 kick point of a ball. I'll never forget Declan O' Sullivan's absolute disgust at the final whistle throwing the hands up in the air and walking off the pitch in utter anger straight away. Gooch just stood in the Davin end corner with his hands on his hips all alone looking down at the ground with abject disbelief and the shock of dejection. We all were. The Dubs couldn't believe it neither. Anszing things that stick out at you 11 years later, the world and life has changed a lot since, for the worst, make no mistake about it. We move on! We have to. |
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Post by ciarraimick on Apr 11, 2022 20:52:05 GMT
Loving the Sunday Game Promo on TV... I only picked one thing the day of my wedding and that was the entrance music... Yep... The Sunday Game... That's class RoyalKerry. That music is just part of our heritage now. Think it was wrote by James Last. He played in Austin Stack Park during the Rose of Tralee during the 80s and when he play "the Sunday fame theme" the crowd went wild. It was televised at the time. Anyway great choice! Two great choices, 👏 |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Apr 11, 2022 21:20:42 GMT
The wife was grand she knows the score.
Kerry football was the first love !
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Apr 11, 2022 21:41:58 GMT
McQuillan was worth a couple of points to Dublin no doubt but your assumption is way over the top Southward. A bit of exaggeration I think. My memory of 2011 is that Kerry went into the match a better team by at least ten points, and played like they knew it. Unfortunately there was a match there to be won and Dublin were the ones who grabbed the game by the scruff of the neck. I don’t usually go over the top on refs when it comes to Kerry games and I usually look internally for issues. 2008- outplayed 2010- didn’t play well 2012- conceded a poor goal and gave oxygen to a defensive team who closed it out 2013- beaten by a better team 2015 never got goin I could go on, but 2011 was a robbery and I’ll never, ever be convinced of any different. The display that day by mcquillan was f*ckin shameful |
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Post by ciarraimick on Apr 11, 2022 21:53:59 GMT
My memory of 2011 is that Kerry went into the match a better team by at least ten points, and played like they knew it. Unfortunately there was a match there to be won and Dublin were the ones who grabbed the game by the scruff of the neck. I don’t usually go over the top on refs when it comes to Kerry games and I usually look internally for issues. 2008- outplayed 2010- didn’t play well 2012- conceded a poor goal and gave oxygen to a defensive team who closed it out 2013- beaten by a better team 2015 never got goin I could go on, but 2011 was a robbery and I’ll never, ever be convinced of any different. The display that day by mcquillan was f*ckin shameful You are spot on Kerrybhoy. I'm the same. I normally take the loss get upset and move on but 2011 was real bad refereeing. In 13 it was a classic but Dubs were better. In 15 they were better team. Even in 16 we had the late unpunished challenge on Peter Crowley but again Dubs were better but in 2011 Kerry were the better team. A great friend of mine from Dublin often said to me over the years "the Kerry fans were so gracious in 11. If it was the other way around I'm sure we would nt be the same We would be causing a storm if it was the other way around" That's a vuew from a devout Dublin supporter. |
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Post by thepromisedland on Apr 11, 2022 22:05:40 GMT
I don’t usually go over the top on refs when it comes to Kerry games and I usually look internally for issues. 2008- outplayed 2010- didn’t play well 2012- conceded a poor goal and gave oxygen to a defensive team who closed it out 2013- beaten by a better team 2015 never got goin I could go on, but 2011 was a robbery and I’ll never, ever be convinced of any different. The display that day by mcquillan was f*ckin shameful You are spot on Kerrybhoy. I'm the same. I normally take the loss get upset and move on but 2011 was real bad refereeing. In 13 it was a classic but Dubs were better. In 15 they were better team. Even in 16 we had the late unpunished challenge on Peter Crowley but again Dubs were better but in 2011 Kerry were the better team. A great friend of mine from Dublin often said to me over the years "the Kerry fans were so gracious in 11. If it was the other way around I'm sure we would nt be the same We would be causing a storm if it was the other way around" That's a vuew from a devout Dublin supporter. We were never quite the same again after that 2011 All-Ireland Final loss I think. |
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