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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2022 9:57:27 GMT
Kingdomboy. You must think I'm always disagreeing with you but last years semi final with Tyrone was no ambush. They ambushed us in 2003 but not last year. An ambush is a surprise attack. Many Kerry people including you and I spoke about how wary we were of Tyrone. Many including Marc Ó Sé said they were wary of an ambush from Tyrone. The fact they spoke of an ambush means the very opposite cos if one expects an ambush then it definately is nt an ambush. Tyrone beat us because of better tactics but we were unlucky too and did outscore Tyrone. 2 of Tyrone s goals were of the lucky variety and the first came from a Kerry mistake. The only surprise I got from Tyrone was I was expect g their forwards to be the key players but it was their backs that were the ones that were the top players. Tyrone were poor last Sunday but Dublin are getting their better players back so they improving by the week. no you're spot on Mick, I think most of us were expecting what we got but it seemed the team weren't prepared, PK definitely wasn't,he had no plan B. We were all nervous of Cork in 2020 over on the hoganstand but again PK wasn't and played awful tactics, I often wonder was he trying to be smart, keep the game close and fly under the radar. I guess we'll never know for sure. |
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Post by Ard Mhacha on Mar 15, 2022 10:18:40 GMT
Looking forward to taking a novel spin up to Armagh for this one. It would be fairly close to where I'm currently exiled to. Its not often we cross paths with the Orchard county these days, was it 2012 or 13 they were last in D1 and down playing us on a Saturday night in Tralee. I recall we were fairly woeful that night and Armagh won with a bit to spare. Anyone ever been up to the Athletics Ground whats the parking situation like? Looks as if the ground is surrounded by housing estates judging by google maps. Yeah it was 2012 when we last met down in Tralee. We were down at that one, great result for us. But you beat us up here by 4 points I think in 2011. Here’s some parking info for a few seasons back. It’s more or less the same now: armaghgaa.net/football/parking-travel-arrangements-usfc-s-final/Have a safe trip up folks, and here’s hoping for a good sporting contest. |
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Post by thehermit on Mar 15, 2022 10:42:13 GMT
Looking forward to taking a novel spin up to Armagh for this one. It would be fairly close to where I'm currently exiled to. Its not often we cross paths with the Orchard county these days, was it 2012 or 13 they were last in D1 and down playing us on a Saturday night in Tralee. I recall we were fairly woeful that night and Armagh won with a bit to spare. Anyone ever been up to the Athletics Ground whats the parking situation like? Looks as if the ground is surrounded by housing estates judging by google maps. Yeah it was 2012 when we last met down in Tralee. We were down at that one, great result for us. But you beat us up here by 4 points I think in 2011. Here’s some parking info for a few seasons back. It’s more or less the same now: armaghgaa.net/football/parking-travel-arrangements-usfc-s-final/Have a safe trip up folks, and here’s hoping for a good sporting contest. Sound man, thanks for that! |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 15, 2022 11:34:34 GMT
As an afterthought, were Tyrone softening up The Dubs like they did with us last year? As PatS said, they are the new cute hoors! you could be on to something bally, I suppose all will be revealed this weekend. Donegal looked so bad against Monaghan, if they manage to beat dublin it will add weight to your argument. I never bought what the media were selling after we hammered Tyrone in the league last year (I don't think too many Kerry folk were) and I was awful wary of them in the allireland semifinal, I couldn't shake the feeling we were heading for an ambush and so it came to pass. Read somewhere that fellas are leaving the Tyrone panel due to lack of game time - more of it, fellas are being shafted because they aren't up to it like in every county. There is only one plan in an contae of an lamh dearg and that is back-to-backs, what wan Michael Harte didn't do. They have a uniquely strong culture and we'd have a few things to learn from them, I often think they have much in common with our hurlers - the poor relation, more culturally in line with amateur sport ethos. I'm not assuming/alleging they are perfect, jazus at times they'd kill each other in club games, but the basics are intact for the plan. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2022 13:02:37 GMT
We will never know now but the real pity is the last two all irelands were there for the taking. 100% |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2022 13:07:45 GMT
you could be on to something bally, I suppose all will be revealed this weekend. Donegal looked so bad against Monaghan, if they manage to beat dublin it will add weight to your argument. I never bought what the media were selling after we hammered Tyrone in the league last year (I don't think too many Kerry folk were) and I was awful wary of them in the allireland semifinal, I couldn't shake the feeling we were heading for an ambush and so it came to pass. Read somewhere that fellas are leaving the Tyrone panel due to lack of game time - more of it, fellas are being shafted because they aren't up to it like in every county. There is only one plan in an contae of an lamh dearg and that is back-to-backs, what wan Michael Harte didn't do. They have a uniquely strong culture and we'd have a few things to learn from them, I often think they have much in common with our hurlers - the poor relation, more culturally in line with amateur sport ethos. I'm not assuming/alleging they are perfect, jazus at times they'd kill each other in club games, but the basics are intact for the plan. when you think about it bally, Dooher was a big part of that Tyrone team that failed to do back to back so he's probably thinking they'll take it handy during the league and put the boot down for a 12 week championship. It's different for us as we need the league as Munster is a non event so I can see why jack hasn't started the hard training yet, there is no point flogging the lads 6 months when we'll only need to be flying for 6 weeks from June to the middle of July. |
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Post by homerj on Mar 15, 2022 14:07:39 GMT
utmost admiration for those heading up and safe travels to anybody going to Armagh this weekend from a base in the Kingdom. its one hell of a drive up there and anybody going should be remember when tickets are scarcer as time goes on.
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Post by tpo on Mar 15, 2022 14:42:41 GMT
Ticket price are £14 for Armagh V Kerry while Tyrone V Mayo are €15 on Ticketmaster. Why Euro in Omagh and Pounds in Armagh?
I know is same difference, just wondering
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 15, 2022 15:20:54 GMT
Will any injured lads return this weekend ?
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Post by jackiel on Mar 15, 2022 15:27:09 GMT
I've missed the last 2 matches due to illness, this weekend we have a family event which I can't miss so even though it's not such a long distance for me I'll be missing this one too.
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Post by Ard Mhacha on Mar 15, 2022 16:03:14 GMT
It's different for us as we need the league as Munster is a non event so I can see why jack hasn't started the hard training yet, there is no point flogging the lads 6 months when we'll only need to be flying for 6 weeks from June to the middle of July. Are you getting your excuses for Sunday in early?  |
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Post by Ard Mhacha on Mar 15, 2022 16:07:43 GMT
utmost admiration for those heading up and safe travels to anybody going to Armagh this weekend from a base in the Kingdom. its one hell of a drive up there and anybody going should be remember when tickets are scarcer as time goes on. Flip, it is a long drive alright! It would be an even longer drive if you’re driving back the same day. Even with an overnight stay, you’d be wrecked. The train would be a nice way to travel up. But for anyone thinking of doing that, Armagh City doesn’t have a train link (nearest station would be Newry or Portadown). |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2022 16:19:16 GMT
It's different for us as we need the league as Munster is a non event so I can see why jack hasn't started the hard training yet, there is no point flogging the lads 6 months when we'll only need to be flying for 6 weeks from June to the middle of July. Are you getting your excuses for Sunday in early? I'm trying to lull you into a false sense of security 😂 |
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Mar 15, 2022 16:58:19 GMT
Martin McNally reffing the game Sunday. Some of the IT Tralee students on the Kerry panel will remember his performance in the Sigerson Cup Semi-Final. Hopefully we keep all 15 on the field this time. 😂
We are all human and can have an off day and I hope that game doesn't have a bearing on the players' attitude on Sunday.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 15, 2022 18:20:44 GMT
Ticket price are £14 for Armagh V Kerry while Tyrone V Mayo are €15 on Ticketmaster. Why Euro in Omagh and Pounds in Armagh? I know is same difference, just wondering There will be some uproar if Armagh find out that Tyrone got to join us before them. Patrick Kielty used to say you can have any colour of fuel you like in Armagh so maybe 'tis the same with tickets. Both great venues, they like the crack - they often start about our aisy wans but have no answer when you tell 'em it isn't our fault the standard is higher in Ulster. And the Tyrone women are at least as up to date as the men on all things GAA, and take it at least as serious too. Once you peel back the veneer I find Armagh quiet complimentary to our past success, Paul Galvin and Jack O'Shea could each have a fan club up there. I suppose we bring out the best in 'em, they have no tolerance of nonsense, they close down unless you can meaningfully bat the ball back to them. I've had some slagging matches with 'em down the years - just like ourselves, some know more than others! Hard to prove but I'd say the level of interest is higher on average, no rugby much. If you are lucky to meet a hurler you have found gold, in a way they are the poor relations of the poor relations, amazing company, with or without porter. Oh and BTW, once you get 'em goin their yarns eclipse ours, and until lately I'd have said that includes the true wans, but from what I've heard lately I think it is fair to say the balance has tipped 'in our favour.' Ballythefireside Quote of the day - It wasn't so much that John B was a writer but we made life so easy for him with a constant flow of original material - agus níl aon tinteán mar do thinteán féin, etc! |
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Post by exiled on Mar 15, 2022 23:18:26 GMT
Kingdomboy. You must think I'm always disagreeing with you but last years semi final with Tyrone was no ambush. They ambushed us in 2003 but not last year. An ambush is a surprise attack. Many Kerry people including you and I spoke about how wary we were of Tyrone. Many including Marc Ó Sé said they were wary of an ambush from Tyrone. The fact they spoke of an ambush means the very opposite cos if one expects an ambush then it definately is nt an ambush. Tyrone beat us because of better tactics but we were unlucky too and did outscore Tyrone. 2 of Tyrone s goals were of the lucky variety and the first came from a Kerry mistake. The only surprise I got from Tyrone was I was expect g their forwards to be the key players but it was their backs that were the ones that were the top players. Tyrone were poor last Sunday but Dublin are getting their better players back so they improving by the week. Most Kerry supporters were not surprised and weren't surprised but Peter Keane was ambushed. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 16, 2022 18:15:18 GMT
Any injured lads due back for this game ?
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 16, 2022 18:29:20 GMT
Any injured lads due back for this game ? I expect Joe O'Connor to start either at Mid field or wing forward. |
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Mar 16, 2022 18:47:06 GMT
Any injured lads due back for this game ? I expect Joe O'Connor to start either at Mid field or wing forward. Hopefully start midfield. Might as well test our options. I cant see him breaking the half-forward line. Any story on how Stefan is progressing with his injury? |
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Mar 16, 2022 18:56:53 GMT
I expect Joe O'Connor to start either at Mid field or wing forward. Hopefully start midfield. Might as well test our options. I cant see him breaking the half-forward line. Any story on how Stefan is progressing with his injury? I think he could be tried in the role Adrian Spillane has been playing and see if he’s an alternative in that position. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 16, 2022 19:21:43 GMT
Is Dan O Donoghue still out ?
I'm assuming we won't see Seanie before a league final.
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 16, 2022 19:24:02 GMT
I think Adrain, Seanie and Dara will be our three come dry sod.
It's Mid-Field we need options, Jack tends to try players away from home that is one of the primary reasons I think Joe may start.
I think Ryan too will return between the sticks
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Post by thehermit on Mar 16, 2022 19:29:49 GMT
Yes I'd be for sticking with Ryan at this rate anyway.
We need cover in midfield big time, we're all assuming Moran will be back and as good as last year, that's a bit of a leap of faith. Who knows where he might be at.
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 16, 2022 19:36:49 GMT
look you know my opinions from the HS dsys.. obviously being a year older again it only copperfastens my opinion.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 16, 2022 19:42:45 GMT
Yes I'd be for sticking with Ryan at this rate anyway. We need cover in midfield big time, we're all assuming Moran will be back and as good as last year, that's a bit of a leap of faith. Who knows where he might be at. Wouldn't David be a mighty man to see out the last 30 mins ? A great long option to get the ball away. |
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Post by john4 on Mar 16, 2022 19:45:39 GMT
Yes I'd be for sticking with Ryan at this rate anyway. We need cover in midfield big time, we're all assuming Moran will be back and as good as last year, that's a bit of a leap of faith. Who knows where he might be at. Wouldn't David be a mighty man to see out the last 30 mins ? A great long option to get the ball away. I don't know. The speed of the game has ramped up something savage since DM was in his prime. There's serious pace needed in the middle third now. |
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Mar 16, 2022 19:58:06 GMT
He had a great year last year I thought. He clearly won the battle against the Tyrone midfield.
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Post by thehermit on Mar 16, 2022 20:25:29 GMT
Yes I'd be for sticking with Ryan at this rate anyway. We need cover in midfield big time, we're all assuming Moran will be back and as good as last year, that's a bit of a leap of faith. Who knows where he might be at. Wouldn't David be a mighty man to see out the last 30 mins ? A great long option to get the ball away.
Yes he would I'm just a little concerned we are all assuming he will be back right as rain come the Championship. I haven't really heard anyone give a timeline about his return or anything.
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Post by givehimaball on Mar 16, 2022 20:57:18 GMT
After watching the Armagh Kildare game back on GAAGo I would be expecting quite a tough game at the weekend.
I think McGeeney will be absolutely desperate to get to a league final.
Armagh have won the league only once and only got to a league final four times in total, so a win would be very significant for Armagh.
It will be interesting to see if McGeeney goes for Ethan Rafferty in goals ( he played there in the Kildare and Mayo game) but played outfield for Armagh for a good few years amd was a fairly capable operator. I don't think he plays in goal for his club either. He's very much in the Beggan mould of keeper. Blaine Hughes the previous number 1 had been put under serious pressure in their game against Monaghan with Monaghan winning a fair chunk of his kickouts. However the conditions that night were very unfavourable for a keeper with strong winds blowing. Rafferty did get turned over on a couple of kickouts against Kildare but he had a number of good ones as well and did contribute well out the field so this could be a key factor.
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Post by greengold35 on Mar 16, 2022 22:29:25 GMT
Wouldn't David be a mighty man to see out the last 30 mins ? A great long option to get the ball away. Yes he would I'm just a little concerned we are all assuming he will be back right as rain come the Championship. I haven't really heard anyone give a timeline about his return or anything.
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