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Post by john4 on Mar 16, 2022 22:31:54 GMT
Yes he would I'm just a little concerned we are all assuming he will be back right as rain come the Championship. I haven't really heard anyone give a timeline about his return or anything.
I understand that David won’t play any part in the league - still rehabbing. Hip flexor injury I think. Slow heal for sure. |
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Mar 16, 2022 22:43:29 GMT
I understand that David won’t play any part in the league - still rehabbing. Hip flexor injury I think. Slow heal for sure. It’s a groin injury I’m fairly sure? |
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Mar 16, 2022 22:44:19 GMT
Yes he would I'm just a little concerned we are all assuming he will be back right as rain come the Championship. I haven't really heard anyone give a timeline about his return or anything.
I understand that David won’t play any part in the league - still rehabbing. What’s the word on Okunbor, is he near to availability for selection? |
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Post by greengold35 on Mar 16, 2022 22:49:27 GMT
I understand that David won’t play any part in the league - still rehabbing. Hip flexor injury I think. Slow heal for sure. Damaged a tendon in his groin. |
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 16, 2022 23:11:48 GMT
Sun Mar 20 - Armagh vs Kerry - Athletic Grounds Armagh 2pm
Sun Mar 27 - Kerry vs Tyrone - Killarney 1.45pm
League final 2/3rd April
So 3 games left for Kerry to learn and find out about themselves.
The Munster campaign is unlikely to provide stiff opposition and SOS or DC should have top scorer in the championship in the bag after it like last year.
After one of the games Jack implied that other teams had already done heavy training whereas Kerry hadnt and said something along the lines that reaching a league final would hamper heavy training. Where does that leave Sundays game v Armagh?
As someone who is innately cautious I am encouraged by some things i have seen from Kerry in the league so far.
Such as;
For once Kerry players help their collective nerve and won a tight game. No one did anything crazy at the end.
The return to form of SOS and Adrian Spillane
Dan oDonaghue looks ready
Dylan Casey has a great future ...when he fills out and develops etc
DC taking a biteen more time on the ball before shooting with the left...he even takes a hop now
Tony Brosnans goal was beautifully created and looked like something from the training ground .. the back pass to DC, Adrian seeing the gap, the pass from DC to Adrian and pass from Adrian to Tony and the excellent finish
Kerry strung a series of passes together v Mayo that led to simple chances of points for JB and Dara Moynihan, both of which were taken. They were the types of points Tyrone got v us last year. The defense was dissected without losing possession.
Jason Foleys play v Mayo was very encouraging i thought
At the start of this league it looked like no line of the team picked itself.
At the moment, the championship team is beginning to take shape.
The Monaghan game ended up being spoiled by Rory Beggan...i would blame him for all 3 goals.
The black card Dublin goal allowed Kerry to grab that game in that period of time.
Last Sunday, Padraigh Hampsey was off the pitch for all bar 25 minutes v Dublin. It is absolutely essential to avoid losing a player for 10 minutes to the sin bin.
I dont know what to make of this rotating keepers thing. Shane Ryan got 100% of his kickouts away to a Kerry player in the 2019 final replay as well as v Tyrone last year. However, maybe thats the problem. Most were short kickouts to the corner back and its energy sapping to have to carry the ball all the way up the field all day from every kickout. Maybe Jack/Tally feel that a few kickouts need to go long and thats what is being tried out now. Shane Murphy didnt have a great night with the long ones v Mayo. I have always been very comfortable with Shane Ryan in goals but i would like to see him go long with a few kickouts in the remaining games if he is picked.
All this guff about Kerry conceeding only one goal papers over the cracks that opponents butchered clear goal chances.
Of the others its impossible to call it at this stage.
Tyrone at their best for the first half v Donegal only for Donegal to play them off the pitch in the second half. Deep down i am not sure Tyrone will have the desire this year and their discipline needs to get back to where it was last year.
Where can Mayo improve on their limp performance in the 2021 final. Only the return of Cillian oConnor can change things.
Armagh are great to watch but maybe too predictable and therefore can be defended against
I think the winners of the Dublin -Kerry semi final will win it.
Dublin are capable of putting two good performances together to win the 2022 All Ireland. They know how to do it and the bear has been poked.
When they lose McCarthy and a two or three more in the next few years hey will be more manageable.
Kerry are better than in 2021 and Kerry now have the best panel i would say.
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Post by The16thMan on Mar 17, 2022 0:16:56 GMT
Sun Mar 20 - Armagh vs Kerry - Athletic Grounds Armagh 2pm Sun Mar 27 - Kerry vs Tyrone - Killarney 1.45pm League final 2/3rd April So 3 games left for Kerry to learn and find out about themselves. The Munster campaign is unlikely to provide stiff opposition and SOS or DC should have top scorer in the championship in the bag after it like last year. After one of the games Jack implied that other teams had already done heavy training whereas Kerry hadnt and said something along the lines that reaching a league final would hamper heavy training. Where does that leave Sundays game v Armagh? As someone who is innately cautious I am encouraged by some things i have seen from Kerry in the league so far. Such as; For once Kerry players help their collective nerve and won a tight game. No one did anything crazy at the end. The return to form of SOS and Adrian Spillane Dan oDonaghue looks ready Dylan Casey has a great future ...when he fills out and develops etc DC taking a biteen more time on the ball before shooting with the left...he even takes a hop now Tony Brosnans goal was beautifully created and looked like something from the training ground .. the back pass to DC, Adrian seeing the gap, the pass from DC to Adrian and pass from Adrian to Tony and the excellent finish Kerry strung a series of passes together v Mayo that led to simple chances of points for JB and Dara Moynihan, both of which were taken. They were the types of points Tyrone got v us last year. The defense was dissected without losing possession. Jason Foleys play v Mayo was very encouraging i thought At the start of this league it looked like no line of the team picked itself. At the moment, the championship team is beginning to take shape. The Monaghan game ended up being spoiled by Rory Beggan...i would blame him for all 3 goals. The black card Dublin goal allowed Kerry to grab that game in that period of time. Last Sunday, Padraigh Hampsey was off the pitch for all bar 25 minutes v Dublin. It is absolutely essential to avoid losing a player for 10 minutes to the sin bin. I dont know what to make of this rotating keepers thing. Shane Ryan got 100% of his kickouts away to a Kerry player in the 2019 final replay as well as v Tyrone last year. However, maybe thats the problem. Most were short kickouts to the corner back and its energy sapping to have to carry the ball all the way up the field all day from every kickout. Maybe Jack/Tally feel that a few kickouts need to go long and thats what is being tried out now. Shane Murphy didnt have a great night with the long ones v Mayo. I have always been very comfortable with Shane Ryan in goals but i would like to see him go long with a few kickouts in the remaining games if he is picked. All this guff about Kerry conceeding only one goal papers over the cracks that opponents butchered clear goal chances. Of the others its impossible to call it at this stage. Tyrone at their best for the first half v Donegal only for Donegal to play them off the pitch in the second half. Deep down i am not sure Tyrone will have the desire this year and their discipline needs to get back to where it was last year. Where can Mayo improve on their limp performance in the 2021 final. Only the return of Cillian oConnor can change things. Armagh are great to watch but maybe too predictable and therefore can be defended against I think the winners of the Dublin -Kerry semi final will win it. Dublin are capable of putting two good performances together to win the 2022 All Ireland. They know how to do it and the bear has been poked. When they lose McCarthy and a two or three more in the next few years hey will be more manageable. Kerry are better than in 2021 and Kerry now have the best panel i would say. I agree about the Dublin statement you've said here. They remind me of 2009 Kerry, a team struggling for form, key players coming to the end of their run. They might have 1 big game in them yet later in the Championship. I do agree that the winner of Dublin Kerry will win the All Ireland also. Kerry and Dublin being such rivals, no team will want to go down to the other. It'll probably be the most even game in years between them in terms of who would take it. It can be a defining game for the losing team. I do think Mayo are 3rd in the country when all 3 teams are at the top of their game with probably Kerry 1st and Dublin 2nd but Dublin are definitely drifting slowly out of that top 3. |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 17, 2022 21:31:02 GMT
Yes I'd be for sticking with Ryan at this rate anyway. We need cover in midfield big time, we're all assuming Moran will be back and as good as last year, that's a bit of a leap of faith. Who knows where he might be at. Wouldn't David be a mighty man to see out the last 30 mins ? A great long option to get the ball away. I recall a few Northies a while back saying genuinely that David was the most under-rated player in Gaelic football. While none of us may disagree, how many of us would volunteer it foremost? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2022 22:15:54 GMT
There is always the possibility that David might not come back and slip away quietly. I hope he does return but he now might feel he has too much catching up to do if his injury is better. Moran is still part of the squad Mick, he's still injured and maybe that injury could finish his season but at the moment he's still in the frame. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2022 0:07:27 GMT
Good to hear Kingdomboy. I've alot of time for Moran. I think he still has a part to play but not 70 mins. no David is definitely not a 70 minute man anymore Mick but it'll be interesting to see whether he's a starter or a finisher, I suppose it'll depend on the opposision, we've been beat in midfield by kildare (second half) dublin Donegal and Mayo so far, strangely we've drawn 1 and won the other 3 games but that's winter ball summer ball will be different. |
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Post by armaghniac on Mar 18, 2022 0:08:49 GMT
Looking forward to taking a novel spin up to Armagh for this one. It would be fairly close to where I'm currently exiled to. Its not often we cross paths with the Orchard county these days, was it 2012 or 13 they were last in D1 and down playing us on a Saturday night in Tralee. I recall we were fairly woeful that night and Armagh won with a bit to spare. Armagh played decently that night, and did nothing for the rest of the season. They are more consistent now. Anyone ever been up to the Athletics Ground whats the parking situation like? Looks as if the ground is surrounded by housing estates judging by google maps. The Athletic grounds is not the worst for parking. If you coming from Newry then bear left at the traffic lights when you are into Armagh and then go up 200m and you have parking on left (Hotel and Demense) and right (Church and public car park near building site, free on Sundays) or on Sundays there is parking on the streets further in if you turn right there. The only limitation is that it take a few minutes to get away after the game. Anyone coming from Monaghan, there is a paid car park in the school beside the ground, again it takes a while to get out of if you are in hurry. The Kildare people solved this problem by leaving when they were 5 points behind and that might suit Kerry people too. Despite comments here, it is unclear if Armagh do want to get to a League final, from then there will then be only 3 weeks to a first round meeting in Ballybofey and that is a hard assignment for any team. The training regime required to get in good shape for that day will have a big influence on performance against Kerry. This is not getting an excuse in early, a lot of lads on the Armagh team would like to add a Kerry scalp to Dublin and Tyrone. |
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Post by Moderator on Mar 18, 2022 1:05:16 GMT
Post from Armaghniac above:
The Athletic grounds is not the worst for parking. If you coming from Newry then bear left at the traffic lights when you are into Armagh and then go up 200m and you have parking on left (Hotel and Demense) and right (Church and public car park near building site, free on Sundays) or on Sundays there is parking on the streets further in if you turn right there. The only limitation is that it take a few minutes to get away after the game. Anyone coming from Monaghan, there is a paid car park in the school beside the ground, again it takes a while to get out of if you are in hurry. The Kildare people solved this problem by leaving when they were 5 points behind and that might suit Kerry people too.
Despite comments here, it is unclear if Armagh do want to get to a League final, from then there will then be only 3 weeks to a first round meeting in Ballybofey and that is a hard assignment for any team. The training regime required to get in good shape for that day will have a big influence on performance against Kerry. This is not getting an excuse in early, a lot of lads on the Armagh team would like to add a Kerry scalp to Dublin and Tyrone.
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Post by thehermit on Mar 18, 2022 11:12:19 GMT
Looking forward to taking a novel spin up to Armagh for this one. It would be fairly close to where I'm currently exiled to. Its not often we cross paths with the Orchard county these days, was it 2012 or 13 they were last in D1 and down playing us on a Saturday night in Tralee. I recall we were fairly woeful that night and Armagh won with a bit to spare. Armagh played decently that night, and did nothing for the rest of the season. They are more consistent now. Anyone ever been up to the Athletics Ground whats the parking situation like? Looks as if the ground is surrounded by housing estates judging by google maps. The Athletic grounds is not the worst for parking. If you coming from Newry then bear left at the traffic lights when you are into Armagh and then go up 200m and you have parking on left (Hotel and Demense) and right (Church and public car park near building site, free on Sundays) or on Sundays there is parking on the streets further in if you turn right there. The only limitation is that it take a few minutes to get away after the game. Anyone coming from Monaghan, there is a paid car park in the school beside the ground, again it takes a while to get out of if you are in hurry. The Kildare people solved this problem by leaving when they were 5 points behind and that might suit Kerry people too. Despite comments here, it is unclear if Armagh do want to get to a League final, from then there will then be only 3 weeks to a first round meeting in Ballybofey and that is a hard assignment for any team. The training regime required to get in good shape for that day will have a big influence on performance against Kerry. This is not getting an excuse in early, a lot of lads on the Armagh team would like to add a Kerry scalp to Dublin and Tyrone. Sound man, thanks for the info |
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Post by mike70 on Mar 18, 2022 16:09:46 GMT
Lads 100% Armagh will want to be in the league final, there in great shape physically, don’t need much of a top up, and the more top teams they play the more they learn about themselves, a final is a final.
Kerry maybe in the final Saturday night if Mayo lose.
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Post by tpo on Mar 18, 2022 16:53:10 GMT
I went to Ul V QUB a few weeks ago, UL won Davis and Donal were the stars on the night but Conor Turbitt from Armagh was outstanding for QUB, I couldn't believe how good he was, but cant jet a start for Armagh. Watch out.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 18, 2022 20:04:49 GMT
Well a few surprises in that team.
No David Clifford in the squad I hope that's a rest and nothing more.
DC was right with Paidi dropping out.
Shane Ryan in the nets is good and sensible against a lot of high balls I'd imagine.
No David or Seanie, If we get any sort of result then it'll be a great achievement.
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Post by pintpleasejohn on Mar 18, 2022 20:06:14 GMT
The Kerry team will play Armagh in Round 6 of the Allianz Football League on Sunday, March 20th, at 2pm in the Athletic Grounds, Armagh. The team is as follows:
1 Shane Ryan Seán Ó Riain Rathmore
2 Dylan Casey Dylan Ó Cathasaigh Austin Stacks
3 Jason Foley Jason O Foghlu Ballydonoghue
4 Tom O’Sullivan Tomas O Súilleabháin Dingle
5 Graham O’Sullivan Graeme Ó Súilleabháin Piarsaigh na Dromoda
6 Tadhg Morley Tadhg Ó Muraile Templenoe
7 Brian Ó Beaglaíoch Brian Ó Beaglaoich An Ghaeltacht
8 Diarmuid O’Connor Diarmuid Ó Conchúir Na Gaeil
9 Jack Barry Jeaic De Barra Na Gaeil
10 Dara Moynihan Dara Ó Muineachain Spa, Killarney
11 Jack Savage Jeaic Sabhaois Kerins O Rahillys
12 Adrian Spillane Adrian Ó Spealáin Templenoe
13 Tony Brosnan Antóin Ó Brosnacháin Dr Crokes
14 Killian Spillane Cillian Ó Spealáin Templenoe
15 Stephen O’Brien Stiofán Ó Briain Kenmare Shamrocks
16 GK Shane Murphy Seán Ó Murchú Dr Crokes
17 Paudie Clifford Padraig Ó Clumhain Fossa
18 Paul Geaney Pól Ó Geibheannaigh Dingle
19 Jack O’Shea Jeaic Ó Sé Austin Stacks
20 Micheál Burns Micheál Ó Braoin Dr Crokes
21 Greg Horan Greg Ó hÓdhrain Austin Stacks
22 Darragh Roche Dara Ó Róiste Glenflesk
23 Pa Warren Pádraig Warren Gneeveguilla
24 Joe O’Connor Seosamh Ó Conchúir Austin Stacks
25 Cian Gammell Cian Ó Gamaill Killarney Legion
26 Éanna Ó Conchúir Éanna Ó Conchúir An Ghaeltacht
Captains Name: Tadhg Morley
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Mar 18, 2022 20:08:36 GMT
Our 3 best forwards not starting with Paudie being rested. Huge chance for both Brosnan and Killian Spillane as they are the go to players now up there. It’ll be extremely tough going up there against a very good Armagh team without David and Seanie.
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Post by thehermit on Mar 18, 2022 20:39:19 GMT
Well if we get any sort of result up there on Sunday given who we're missing it will be some achievement.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 18, 2022 20:42:41 GMT
To behonest I'm delighted with Jacks approach.
I wasn't sure with his reappointment however dragging Clifford up to Armagh when it's not necessary is smart and good player management.
There will be a lot of disappointed young supporters in Armagh when the hear he is not playing.
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Post by homerj on Mar 18, 2022 20:45:08 GMT
I make it 9 lads missing there from the squad all of which would be pushing for starting 15
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Post by eastcoastusa on Mar 18, 2022 20:49:49 GMT
What is the latest on Sean O Shea injury? When is he expected to return? Also same on Dan O’Donoghue if anyone knows.
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Post by Ard Mhacha on Mar 18, 2022 21:02:03 GMT
To behonest I'm delighted with Jacks approach. I wasn't sure with his reappointment however dragging Clifford up to Armagh when it's not necessary is smart and good player management. There will be a lot of disappointed young supporters in Armagh when the hear he is not playing. That would be a shame if David Clifford doesn’t line out. I was very much looking forward to seeing him in the flesh, even though it would be detrimental to our chances of getting a positive result. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 18, 2022 21:31:40 GMT
What is the latest on Sean O Shea injury? When is he expected to return? Also same on Dan O’Donoghue if anyone knows. The end of the league at the earliest for Seanie I believe. No idea about Dan. Hopefully a few are back next week. |
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 18, 2022 23:06:05 GMT
I am wondering if there is disabled parking adjacent to the Athletic Ground. I am travelling with someone who is incapacitated but not in possession of a wheelchair parking pass yet. I have emailed the Armagh County board but haven't received a reply yet. I got a car park pass for the Monaghan game. If I can't secure a parking spot near the gates I can't travel. Any suggestions.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 18, 2022 23:55:33 GMT
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 19, 2022 0:14:37 GMT
Thanks. I have messaged them and I presume I will get a reply. I emailed the Monaghan County chairman and he replied in 5 minutes with a car park pass. Very impressive. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 19, 2022 0:25:19 GMT
Thanks. I have messaged them and I presume I will get a reply. I emailed the Monaghan County chairman and he replied in 5 minutes with a car park pass. Very impressive. If you dont hear back send a a tweet to Star he'd sort you out too. |
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 19, 2022 0:49:49 GMT
Thanks. I have messaged them and I presume I will get a reply. I emailed the Monaghan County chairman and he replied in 5 minutes with a car park pass. Very impressive. If you dont hear back send a a tweet to Star he'd sort you out too. Never even thought of that. Thanks |
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Post by The16thMan on Mar 19, 2022 2:20:23 GMT
The Kerry team will play Armagh in Round 6 of the Allianz Football League on Sunday, March 20th, at 2pm in the Athletic Grounds, Armagh. The team is as follows: 1 Shane Ryan Seán Ó Riain Rathmore 2 Dylan Casey Dylan Ó Cathasaigh Austin Stacks 3 Jason Foley Jason O Foghlu Ballydonoghue 4 Tom O’Sullivan Tomas O Súilleabháin Dingle 5 Graham O’Sullivan Graeme Ó Súilleabháin Piarsaigh na Dromoda 6 Tadhg Morley Tadhg Ó Muraile Templenoe 7 Brian Ó Beaglaíoch Brian Ó Beaglaoich An Ghaeltacht 8 Diarmuid O’Connor Diarmuid Ó Conchúir Na Gaeil 9 Jack Barry Jeaic De Barra Na Gaeil 10 Dara Moynihan Dara Ó Muineachain Spa, Killarney 11 Jack Savage Jeaic Sabhaois Kerins O Rahillys 12 Adrian Spillane Adrian Ó Spealáin Templenoe 13 Tony Brosnan Antóin Ó Brosnacháin Dr Crokes 14 Killian Spillane Cillian Ó Spealáin Templenoe 15 Stephen O’Brien Stiofán Ó Briain Kenmare Shamrocks 16 GK Shane Murphy Seán Ó Murchú Dr Crokes 17 Paudie Clifford Padraig Ó Clumhain Fossa 18 Paul Geaney Pól Ó Geibheannaigh Dingle 19 Jack O’Shea Jeaic Ó Sé Austin Stacks 20 Micheál Burns Micheál Ó Braoin Dr Crokes 21 Greg Horan Greg Ó hÓdhrain Austin Stacks 22 Darragh Roche Dara Ó Róiste Glenflesk 23 Pa Warren Pádraig Warren Gneeveguilla 24 Joe O’Connor Seosamh Ó Conchúir Austin Stacks 25 Cian Gammell Cian Ó Gamaill Killarney Legion 26 Éanna Ó Conchúir Éanna Ó Conchúir An Ghaeltacht Captains Name: Tadhg Morley Still a very capable team, on it's day rhat full forward line can be a proper handful for any full back line in the country. In total there is 9 players starting this game that didn't start in last years game vs Tyrone which is good. A lot of people saying Jack is sticking to his Championship team for the whole league, a load of bull. I think Ryan is Kerry's best keeper, more demanding of his area. More composed and effective with kickouts and handles pressure better I think. Jack Savage will definitely have to prove his worth in this game, not great vs Mayo and it's not as if this is his 1st year with Kerry or anything, he's been given plenty of chances. He's now Kerrys 3rd choice CHF behind SOS and Paudie and he even has to prove he's even that in my opinion. That full forward line (for what is probably a complete 2nd choice full forward line) would probably walk onto any team outside the top 4 in the country. We don't realise how spoiled we are for choice. Lastly, hopefully Joe O Connor gets time to make an impact, he needs to be given a chance to make a statement on this Kerry team. Wouldn't make sense giving him captaincy and not playing him at all. I'm aware he's been injured but he needs to get minutes in before Championship. |
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Post by kerryexile5 on Mar 19, 2022 7:14:43 GMT
Did Paudie Clifford anger Jack last week with the free kick scenario?
Or is he just resting him after a tough league campaign?
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