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Post by ciarraimick on Jun 26, 2022 1:08:01 GMT
I originally was all for the change to U-17 considering the demands on these young players in their Leaving Cert. However I understand that now most Leaving Cert students are overage for U-18. This implies that they are actually playing U-20. For that reason I would support a change back. U-17 is very young. U18 is proper but sure if we don't win change it again to u17. |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 26, 2022 7:26:09 GMT
I originally was all for the change to U-17 considering the demands on these young players in their Leaving Cert. However I understand that now most Leaving Cert students are overage for U-18. This implies that they are actually playing U-20. For that reason I would support a change back. U-17 is very young. U18 is proper but sure if we don't win change it again to u17. Sorry I don't understand what you are getting at. |
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Post by onlykerry on Jun 26, 2022 9:46:43 GMT
Think there’s every reason to return to U18 not just physical & mental development but the lack of football once a guy is over 17; Paddy Lane is 15, another year @ minor but then he has virtually no team to play with other than senior - it’s ludicrous. Once a guy turns 18 he may have some chance of being part of a senior squad but definitely no chance @ 17+. Next year the great GAA thinkers have opted to go with u19 only. Can someone from GAA headquarters please explain what was wrong with u18/u21? U21 has seemed a bit of an orphan child in the GAA for some time both at county an national level - the competition is run off with indecent haste in a box ticking exercise that simply pays lip service to the grade. There is a total lack of imagination with regard how to bridge the gap between underage and senior age groups for the majority of players - this is at a time when so many are leaving home (and home clubs) for college and work. In general only the cream of the underage crop are considered and even then many are lost. Looking back at the great run of minor AI winning teams it would be an interesting case study to see what has come of the players and how many are still active in the game. When one goes back to club level the drop off would be even greater and this is not a recent phenomenon. |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 26, 2022 11:09:23 GMT
Next year the great GAA thinkers have opted to go with u19 only. Can someone from GAA headquarters please explain what was wrong with u18/u21? U21 has seemed a bit of an orphan child in the GAA for some time both at county an national level - the competition is run off with indecent haste in a box ticking exercise that simply pays lip service to the grade. There is a total lack of imagination with regard how to bridge the gap between underage and senior age groups for the majority of players - this is at a time when so many are leaving home (and home clubs) for college and work. In general only the cream of the underage crop are considered and even then many are lost. Looking back at the great run of minor AI winning teams it would be an interesting case study to see what has come of the players and how many are still active in the game. When one goes back to club level the drop off would be even greater and this is not a recent phenomenon. Potentially the new split season might help to some degree. |
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Post by veteran on Jul 6, 2022 18:48:42 GMT
I would have no problem with Peter Keane as minor manager again.
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Post by homerj on Jul 6, 2022 19:02:38 GMT
I would have no problem with Peter Keane as minor manager again. none of us would however i doubt he would take this job considering what happened last year? id be very surprised if we ever see him on the sidelines again. is he even with a club? |
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Post by veteran on Jul 6, 2022 20:13:07 GMT
I would have no problem with Peter Keane as minor manager again. none of us would however i doubt he would take this job considering what happened last year? id be very surprised if we ever see him on the sidelines again. is he even with a club? It is a shame if Peter has left Intercounty management in such an embittered fashion. He deserves better after his huge contribution. |
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Post by ciarraimick on Jul 7, 2022 11:20:23 GMT
none of us would however i doubt he would take this job considering what happened last year? id be very surprised if we ever see him on the sidelines again. is he even with a club? It is a shame if Peter has left Intercounty management in such an embittered fashion. He deserves better after his huge contribution. Yes Peter made mistakes no doubt (especially v Cork 2020) but had us playing very entertaining football. Also his 3 championship losses were never during the first 70 mins. Beaten v Dubs replay 19 and extra time Cork 2020 and extra time Tyrone 2021.Also very unlucky. The Cork goal came from an effort of a point and two of Tyrone s goals came from rebounds that Cound have gone to Kery players just as easy. Like Fitzmaurice he has more to offer. |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jul 7, 2022 12:03:18 GMT
It is a shame if Peter has left Intercounty management in such an embittered fashion. He deserves better after his huge contribution. Yes Peter made mistakes no doubt (especially v Cork 2020) but had us playing very entertaining football. Also his 3 championship losses were never during the first 70 mins. Beaten v Dubs replay 19 and extra time Cork 2020 and extra time Tyrone 2021.Also very unlucky. The Cork goal came from an effort of a point and two of Tyrone s goals came from rebounds that Cound have gone to Kery players just as easy. Like Fitzmaurice he has more to offer. I am sorry but PK lost games that should have been won and rare as it happens as part of a plan, his strategy vs Cork in 2020 was unforgivable - how any inter-county manager would go defensive against weak opposition tells a story. As to his prospects with the minors, well if it didn't work out you'd never forgive yourself for suggesting it and if there aren't better options then TCB must be held to account. There has long been a serious and urgent need to develop managers, a pipeline, call it what you will. Appointing the next best, best of a bad lot, is a recipe for a county becoming a bridesmaid itself. Fitzy is somewhat different though hesitancy in decision making 'in play' isn't the best and bringing back PG was poor judgement - in fairness what did he see that told him we were in such trouble, or did PG's reincarnation contribute to that? Éamonn is peerless as a pundit though, well he isn't a pundit as such, not an attention grabber! He is just knowledgeable and honest - maybe management at that level wasn't for him though he did win at the first time of asking. Did everyone work with him? I don't accept the transition was taking that long but I do sense there are reasons why he didn't drive on from 2014 - ah all for another day! |
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Post by homerj on Jul 8, 2022 13:47:24 GMT
ya i actually like PK but that Cork defeat was ultimately what did the end for him.
bizzare approach that day, a day that will only be forgotten if/when this team wins the all ireland.
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Post by onlykerry on Jul 8, 2022 18:34:49 GMT
For anybody who had any doubts - the Minor grade is consigned to the scrap heap of inconsequential competitions in the GAA calendar. This once proud competition (played since 1929) that every youngster strived to be part and which was the curtain raiser for All Ireland finals for more years than I care to remember is having it final on a Friday night in Dr Hyde Park at 7.30
Sad to see this competition being treated thus but when they messed with the qualifying age the writing was on the wall.
I think the GAA will live to regret the way they belittle their underage competitions.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 8, 2022 18:44:40 GMT
For anybody who had any doubts - the Minor grade is consigned to the scrap heap of inconsequential competitions in the GAA calendar. This once proud competition (played since 1929) that every youngster strived to be part and which was the curtain raiser for All Ireland finals for more years than I care to remember is having it final on a Friday night in Dr Hyde Park at 7.30 Sad to see this competition being treated thus but when they messed with the qualifying age the writing was on the wall. I think the GAA will live to regret the way they belittle their underage competitions. There were 27000 people at the minor hurling final between Offaly and Tipp. I imagine Hyde Park will be buzzing for tonights final. |
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Post by southward on Jul 8, 2022 18:46:55 GMT
Tune in if you haven't already, folks (TG4). This is great stuff. Proper football.
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Post by Kingdomson on Jul 8, 2022 19:48:31 GMT
Mayo lose yet another final. There was plenty talk about them ahead of this one too but Galway played the match and not the occasion. Galway are deserving winners being the far better side on the evening and build yet another room in the house of pain for poor Mayo. Well done Galway! Great brand of football and scored some fine points.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jul 8, 2022 20:30:12 GMT
Galway clearly the better team. Kerry were set up terribly yet weren’t far away from beating Mayo. 5 or 6 very good players in that Galway team. It’s a mystery how they lost to Mayo twice and also lost to Leitrim in Connacht!
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 8, 2022 20:34:55 GMT
Nearly 13000 in Hyde Park
Thats 40000 at the two minor finals.
Looks like everyone who wanted to attend these finals got to go to them.
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Post by exiled on Jul 8, 2022 21:24:58 GMT
Don't agree that it was a great game. Mayo showed that they can't play against a packed defence just as their seniors. Galway got very soft frees in the first half and got to build a head of steam. Mayo couldn't buy a free. Their goalie kept kicking to a crowded midfield until late on whereas Galway went short. Thought Mayo might have learnt from Kerry game but very stupid in possession.
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Post by horsebox77 on Jul 9, 2022 0:21:40 GMT
Mayo fall flat again but for once they can't blame Aidan O'Shea 😂
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jul 9, 2022 1:24:24 GMT
Mayo fall flat again but for once they can't blame Aidan O'Shea 😂 Rossies used to say the Mayo thing was driving them nuts but it's getting me now - I'd hate to see the stats on it. The sad thing is that they play the most entertaining football of traditional skill. |
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Post by ciarraimick on Jul 9, 2022 21:04:14 GMT
Mayo fall flat again but for once they can't blame Aidan O'Shea 😂 Brilliant😂😂 |
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Post by driley22 on Jul 15, 2022 11:12:22 GMT
What is the minor county championship looking like this year. Who would be the top teams
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Post by mg72 on Jul 19, 2022 7:05:52 GMT
A lot of one sided matches in the minor county championship yesterday evening. North Kerry, Mid Kerry and South Kerry had impressive victories. East Kerry are in action this evening so we'll have an idea what they're like. These seem to be the 4 teams who'll be competing for honours again.
Once again, the club teams are out of their dept playing against the big divisional sides.
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Post by horsebox77 on Jul 19, 2022 7:36:20 GMT
A lot of one sided matches in the minor county championship yesterday evening. North Kerry, Mid Kerry and South Kerry had impressive victories. East Kerry are in action this evening so we'll have an idea what they're like. These seem to be the 4 teams who'll be competing for honours again. Once again, the club teams are out of their dept playing against the big divisional sides. The question is though. why were certain teams allowed go alone? Rathmore for example, were obliterated yesterday, they won division two of the county league. Surely there should be some stipulation, at the very least that club teams have to be division one. |
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Post by mg72 on Jul 19, 2022 16:02:55 GMT
A lot of one sided matches in the minor county championship yesterday evening. North Kerry, Mid Kerry and South Kerry had impressive victories. East Kerry are in action this evening so we'll have an idea what they're like. These seem to be the 4 teams who'll be competing for honours again. Once again, the club teams are out of their dept playing against the big divisional sides. The question is though. why were certain teams allowed go alone? Rathmore for example, were obliterated yesterday, they won division two of the county league. Surely there should be some stipulation, at the very least that club teams have to be division one. I always thought that club teams have to be in division 1 of the county league to be eligible for the championship, but apparently not looking at Rathmore. Even the teams in division 1 aren't strong enough to compete though. 3 club teams are in 1 group this year, so there could be 2, possibly all 3 of them in the quarter finals. From there on, they'll struggle against divisional sides who'll have played 3 competitive matches by then. The only club team that I can possibly see being anyway competitive over the next few years will be Austin Stacks in 2024! That's a long wait! When Shannon Rangers and Feale Rangers combined to make a North Kerry team last year, Tousist and Templenoe joined South Kerry and Kilgarvan joined East Kerry this year, it made it even more lopsided in favour of the divisional sides. This has to be looked at again by the county board. |
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Post by Premier on Jul 19, 2022 22:51:07 GMT
The question is though. why were certain teams allowed go alone? Rathmore for example, were obliterated yesterday, they won division two of the county league. Surely there should be some stipulation, at the very least that club teams have to be division one. I always thought that club teams have to be in division 1 of the county league to be eligible for the championship, but apparently not looking at Rathmore. Even the teams in division 1 aren't strong enough to compete though. 3 club teams are in 1 group this year, so there could be 2, possibly all 3 of them in the quarter finals. From there on, they'll struggle against divisional sides who'll have played 3 competitive matches by then. The only club team that I can possibly see being anyway competitive over the next few years will be Austin Stacks in 2024! That's a long wait! When Shannon Rangers and Feale Rangers combined to make a North Kerry team last year, Tousist and Templenoe joined South Kerry and Kilgarvan joined East Kerry this year, it made it even more lopsided in favour of the divisional sides. This has to be looked at again by the county board. Any match programmes circulating from these games? |
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Post by mg72 on Jul 19, 2022 23:00:22 GMT
I always thought that club teams have to be in division 1 of the county league to be eligible for the championship, but apparently not looking at Rathmore. Even the teams in division 1 aren't strong enough to compete though. 3 club teams are in 1 group this year, so there could be 2, possibly all 3 of them in the quarter finals. From there on, they'll struggle against divisional sides who'll have played 3 competitive matches by then. The only club team that I can possibly see being anyway competitive over the next few years will be Austin Stacks in 2024! That's a long wait! When Shannon Rangers and Feale Rangers combined to make a North Kerry team last year, Tousist and Templenoe joined South Kerry and Kilgarvan joined East Kerry this year, it made it even more lopsided in favour of the divisional sides. This has to be looked at again by the county board. Any match programmes circulating from these games? I have a programme from 1 match, but I don't know how to upload a photo of it! |
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Post by horsebox77 on Jul 19, 2022 23:15:18 GMT
Can't upload on the mobile will try with tablet tmw.
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Post by kerrysouth on Jul 19, 2022 23:18:12 GMT
The big question is why was this North Kerry amalgamation allowed happen thought the idea of county championship especially at minor level was to give players especially from smaller clubs a chance to play at a higher level and there are just too many clubs in this amalgamation for this to happen .The other divisional teams are especially poor this year west Kerry Kieran’s Brendan’s and even east Kerry ..The only exception is my own division south Kerry . Was at the game v laune rangers last might and while Laune rangers were really really poor but in my opinion even though north Kerry should stroll home with the number of clubs and players involved in this northern amalgamation South Kerry might give them a bit of a game can’t see any of the other teams coming close and yes county board need to look at this going forward for the benefit of Kerry football the ideal should be more players not less getting an opportunity to play at this level
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Post by horsebox77 on Jul 22, 2022 12:12:10 GMT
Premier You asked if any match programmes were circulating from these games, see attached from Rathmore/NK Rangers Attachments:
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Post by bundledovertheline on Jul 25, 2022 23:03:31 GMT
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