Kerry Minor Football 2022

[ciarraimick]

Jun 25, 2022 14:04:55 GMT horsebox77 said:

Can one of you settle a row for me. Extended panel players, on the event of a team winning the all Ireland, do extended players get medals, my impression is no...

Not sure Horse but I don't think so. Not sure how many medals they give out but I think it's not more than 30.Up to the 90s a player might play in the munster championship but if he did nt get game time in semi or all ireland he would nt get a medal like Mike Hassett 1997.Now if you named on subs you get a medal but not sure about extended panel. Sorry Horse.

[The16thMan]

Kerry really going through the motions in this game, nobody really taking the game to Mayo. The black card looked to be very harsh in my opinion. Seems to have changed the game since it was issued.

[diego]

Very harsh black card handed Mayo momentum before half time. Had been doing well up until then. Still all to play for. Wind seems to be blowing down to one of the corners at the end we are kicking in to in 2nd half.

[greengold35]

We look lazy in possession in last 10 mins - accept we are a man down but look somewhat off the pace.

[veteran]

Minor referees seem to have a fetish for issuing black cards, However , we are too tentative, not playing positively enough.

[southward]

Referee murdering Kerry here.

Instruction needs to go out to limit black cards to the situations for which they were originally intended i.e. cynical fouls in dangerous areas. These days, referees can be deciding games with bullsh*t cards for mistimed shoulders in innocuous positions.

[horsebox77]

Jun 25, 2022 14:23:55 GMT veteran said:

Minor referees seem to have a fetish for issuing black cards, However , we are too tentative, not playing positively enough.

Agree I though fair soft and simplar with the Galway card.

Our backs are poor enough, I though the goal was on the soft side, if we get enough ball to our forwards I'd be confident but we sloppy at stages.

Cos won't be happy.

[peanuts]

Jun 25, 2022 14:23:55 GMT veteran said:

Minor referees seem to have a fetish for issuing black cards, However , we are too tentative, not playing positively enough.

I don’t think it was a black card foul under the rules. It wasn’t a deliberate body collide or a pull down.

[Annascaultilidie]

Jun 25, 2022 14:26:06 GMT southward said:

Referee murdering Kerry here.

Instruction needs to go out to limit black cards to the situations for which they were originally intended i.e. cynical fouls in dangerous areas. These days, referees can be deciding games with bullsh*t cards for mistimed shoulders in innocuous positions.

Not referencing this game, but we have seen black cards where the position and context of the foul meant it made no sense that it was cynical or rather deliberate, that it must have been accidental.

[greengold35]

Jun 25, 2022 14:26:06 GMT southward said:

Referee murdering Kerry here.

Instruction needs to go out to limit black cards to the situations for which they were originally intended i.e. cynical fouls in dangerous areas. These days, referees can be deciding games with bullsh*t cards for mistimed shoulders in innocuous positions.

Absolutely- on the ref - Mayo have had 3/4 phantom frees!

[ciarraimick]

Jun 25, 2022 14:50:30 GMT greengold35 said:

Jun 25, 2022 14:26:06 GMT southward said:

Referee murdering Kerry here.

Instruction needs to go out to limit black cards to the situations for which they were originally intended i.e. cynical fouls in dangerous areas. These days, referees can be deciding games with bullsh*t cards for mistimed shoulders in innocuous positions.

Absolutely- on the ref - Mayo have had 3/4 phantom frees!

Have to agree ref is totally blinkered. Mayo lad touches ballnon ground and gets free and Mayo def got one phantom free and a few very soft ones

[kot]

Ref was poor but not nearly as poor as Kerry. Absolutely awful stuff.
They are only young lads and i wouldnt be too critical but the coaching has to be called into serious question with the set up and clarity of thought when players had the ball. Seemed like a trial game where fellas had turned up and met for the first time.

[gaelicden]

That's Costello's term up now isn't it? Definitely need some fresh faces.

[horsebox77]

Jun 25, 2022 15:05:01 GMT kot said:

Ref was poor but not nearly as poor as Kerry. Absolutely awful stuff.
They are only young lads and i wouldnt be too critical but the coaching has to be called into serious question with the set up and clarity of thought when players had the ball. Seemed like a trial game where fellas had turned up and met for the first time.

Kot- spot on, the players concerned are only sixteen and seventeen year-olds, so let's hold off on criticism within the white lines... in general very rudderless and naive on the ball. We're not learning at this grade I'm afraid.

Ref was poor putting it mildly but in all truth, Mayo were the better side.

[The16thMan]

Jun 25, 2022 15:05:01 GMT kot said:

Ref was poor but not nearly as poor as Kerry. Absolutely awful stuff.
They are only young lads and i wouldnt be too critical but the coaching has to be called into serious question with the set up and clarity of thought when players had the ball. Seemed like a trial game where fellas had turned up and met for the first time.

I agree, it seemed like a team where the shackles definitely were on. Apart from young Lane in corner forward nobody really tried to take the game to Mayo

[peanuts]

Very poor in the second half when the game was as there for the taking. Mayo definitely seemed to get frees easier but our tackling was poor too.

[veteran]

Mayo vastly superior even though not reflected on the scoreboard. They got a lot of help from the referee but they didn’t need it. All in all, I think this team achieved as much as they were capable of during the campaign.

[ciarraimick]

Yes Mayo far better in second half. Ref poor but Mayo deserved their win and should ve won by more. Very disappointing from Kerry. Our underage the last few years has been very frustrating.

[taggert]

Dreadful game, really poor standard all round. We had a number of players who looked bunched after 20 minutes and at least 2 of those finished the game, making zero impact on the game - at any juncture.

Very poor scoring return of 9 points in around 65 minutes....

Mayo made hay, relatively speaking, after the Kerry black card which was a tad harsh but very silly and unnecessary by the Kerry player.

While Mayo were not exactly impressive either, Kerry were very poor for long spells today and against Cork in tge Munster final and didn't deserve to make the final.

[Whosinmidfield]

Jun 25, 2022 15:07:27 GMT gaelicden said:

That's Costello's term up now isn't it? Definitely need some fresh faces.

Absolutely a new minor management is really needed. Unfortunately every minor team since our last All Ireland winning team has underperformed. The team today looked poorly set up and poorly coached. We had no one in the full forward line to kick the ball to for most of the game. At times Dillon was in there but he had no support. Might as well not show up at all if that’s how they’re going to set them up. Lane is an out and out corner forward yet played most of the game around midfield or behind the ball defending. The tactics from what I could see were everyone come back and defend and hope for the best when we actually have the ball.

[boherbee]

Jun 25, 2022 15:19:13 GMT taggert said:

Dreadful game, really poor standard all round. We had a number of players who looked bunched after 20 minutes and at least 2 of those finished the game, making zero impact on the game - at any juncture.

Very poor scoring return of 9 points in around 65 minutes....

Mayo made hay, relatively speaking, after the Kerry black card which was a tad harsh but very silly and unnecessary by the Kerry player.

While Mayo were not exactly impressive either, Kerry were very poor for long spells today and against Cork in tge Munster final and didn't deserve to make the final.

Mayo,I feel , are a fairly handy outfit, even if they did not show it today.
They have won seven on the trot, yet too lose a match, have beaten Galway twice this year.
Chance for Galway to get revenge in the final.

[thepromisedland]

A most disappointing result playing absolute rubbish football style of play. We seemed tired, no quick kick passing into the zonal corner pockets or midfield spaces, I lost count of the smount if times we were kick passing backwards. It truly was disgraceful coaching.
Most and absolute definitely, we need new management, if that's the best thry can offer.
I know these are young fellas at the end if the day, Cormac Dillon foraging a lone ranger battle upfront, I felt sorry for him to a degree. The referee gave us nothing at all, the Mayo backs were far superior to him and others physicality wise. Cormac slipped a lot, fumbled the ball a lot. We brought the ball into the tackle too much, wayward kicking passing. The impression I got is that individually, we had better footballers than Mayo, but they've been coached and straight jacketed into a northern, blanket, defensive style if playing.
Costelloe and the management team set up too much for Tyrone, where we outTyroned Tyrone, and probably overlooked Mayo, you set up the northern way, you stifle creativity even on your own team, it takes a smile again to adjust to a different way of playing, it was unKerry like.
Mayo did what they had to do but they were poor as well, let's call a spade, a spade, the simple point taking with wides , their goal keeper albeit great at reach saves, is a very poor goalkeeper, four kickouts over the sideline and he missed a free too.
Mayo played poorly, they may up it in the final v their neighbours, but to me, Galway are a much better outfit based on their win v Derry.
It was within these players to win it out this year, if thry were coached to play their natural game, as I've not been hugely impressed by the other 3 teams at all.
Like the U20 football championship this year, the standard at Minor this overall is dire, both age groups actually. Standard has dropped significantly this year.

[horsebox77]

I agree wholeheartedly regarding the standard nationally, truth is it's actually bàbóg ball.

Is their justification for returning to U18 and U21. I know it's only twelve months but for minor level, that is a serious year in a young man's development both physically and in maturing wise.

[Annascaultilidie]

I originally was all for the change to U-17 considering the demands on these young players in their Leaving Cert.

However I understand that now most Leaving Cert students are overage for U-18. This implies that they are actually playing U-20.

For that reason I would support a change back.

U-17 is very young.

[Mickmack]

Its amazing how much a goal can dictate games at this level. The Mayo forward caught a ball going yards wide and put it into the net.

Paddy lane should have scored a goal and the Mayo keeper turned another goal bound effort over the bar.

Had Kerry got those goals they would have electrified the team.

Mayo deserved to win.

[greengold35]

Jun 25, 2022 17:43:55 GMT horsebox77 said:

I agree wholeheartedly regarding the standard nationally, truth is it's actually bàbóg ball.

Is their justification for returning to U18 and U21. I know it's only twelve months but for minor level, that is a serious year in a young man's development both physically and in maturing wise.

Think there’s every reason to return to U18 not just physical & mental development but the lack of football once a guy is over 17; Paddy Lane is 15, another year @ minor but then he has virtually no team to play with other than senior - it’s ludicrous. Once a guy turns 18 he may have some chance of being part of a senior squad but definitely no chance @ 17+.

[clarinman]

Jun 25, 2022 18:38:30 GMT greengold35 said:

Jun 25, 2022 17:43:55 GMT horsebox77 said:

I agree wholeheartedly regarding the standard nationally, truth is it's actually bàbóg ball.

Is their justification for returning to U18 and U21. I know it's only twelve months but for minor level, that is a serious year in a young man's development both physically and in maturing wise.

Think there’s every reason to return to U18 not just physical & mental development but the lack of football once a guy is over 17; Paddy Lane is 15, another year @ minor but then he has virtually no team to play with other than senior - it’s ludicrous. Once a guy turns 18 he may have some chance of being part of a senior squad but definitely no chance @ 17+.

Next year the great GAA thinkers have opted to go with u19 only. Can someone from GAA headquarters please explain what was wrong with u18/u21?

[mossie]

Jun 25, 2022 18:43:23 GMT clarinman said:

Jun 25, 2022 18:38:30 GMT greengold35 said:

Think there’s every reason to return to U18 not just physical & mental development but the lack of football once a guy is over 17; Paddy Lane is 15, another year @ minor but then he has virtually no team to play with other than senior - it’s ludicrous. Once a guy turns 18 he may have some chance of being part of a senior squad but definitely no chance @ 17+.

Next year the great GAA thinkers have opted to go with u19 only. Can someone from GAA headquarters please explain what was wrong with u18/u21?

there was very little wrong with u18\u21, it is all change for change sake

is this U19 change sanctioned and defo coming in?

[kerrylad81]

Jun 25, 2022 15:05:01 GMT kot said:

Ref was poor but not nearly as poor as Kerry. Absolutely awful stuff.
They are only young lads and i wouldnt be too critical but the coaching has to be called into serious question with the set up and clarity of thought when players had the ball. Seemed like a trial game where fellas had turned up and met for the first time.

I agree bad decisions from management some players not played and some played out of position it was a long drive home after watching what we saw today horrible defensive football.

[Attacking Wing Back]

I think it might be time for a change of management at this stage. Some of the tactics, selections and in game decisions of this management group have left a lot to be desired.