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Post by Mickmack on Jan 30, 2022 11:38:49 GMT
Those last two words, attitude and application were qualities that Glen Ryan had in abundance as a player. He was an outstanding warrior.
If he had get Kildare to play like he did they will be a formidable proposition.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 30, 2022 14:44:29 GMT
Well I thought Navan was bad but I can see why the GAA won't hold championship matches here.
First half fairly disjointed,
HF line not offering much and a lot of self inflicted mistakes.
Hoping Gavin injury isint too bad as he was doing well.
Hopefully a better second.
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Post by taggert on Jan 30, 2022 14:46:54 GMT
Geaney struggling with the pace of the game too. 3 of 6 forwards not cutting it. All too common for us.
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Post by southward on Jan 30, 2022 14:48:50 GMT
Defence looks solid but fairly disjointed up front. Could have done with a few more scores with the wind to face in the second half.
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Post by greengold35 on Jan 30, 2022 14:57:47 GMT
David Clifford has a habit of goi g for goals when a handy point is on. He should have taken a handy point just before half time. He kicked 2 fab points earlier. Backs doing fine so far. Moynihan looks unfit to me. Don’t know - love his unpredictability, a goal then could have killed the game.
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Post by taggert on Jan 30, 2022 14:59:41 GMT
David Clifford has a habit of goi g for goals when a handy point is on. He should have taken a handy point just before half time. He kicked 2 fab points earlier. Backs doing fine so far. Moynihan looks unfit to me. To be fair, DM needs game time. He is much better than Burns.
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Post by southward on Jan 30, 2022 15:04:07 GMT
Clifford's just got booked for the world's most innocuous foul ever.
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Post by taggert on Jan 30, 2022 15:05:01 GMT
Paudie has done some good things but some terrible things too - giving away possession far too cheaply in both halves.
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Post by taggert on Jan 30, 2022 15:05:20 GMT
Clifford's just got booked for the world's most innocuous foul ever. Dreadful decision.
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Post by taggert on Jan 30, 2022 15:34:18 GMT
Some putrid displays by several Kerrymen today.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jan 30, 2022 15:38:49 GMT
Kerry conceded no goal today.
That is what a large cohort on here have been crying out for no doubt they will be very satisfied with the match today.
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Post by onlykerry on Jan 30, 2022 15:40:25 GMT
Kerry clung on for a draw - painful 4th quarter from Kerry. Terrible to see the lack of ambition with the ball as they played the possession game over and back before eventually coughing up a turnover as the clock wound down. They looked a tired team.
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Post by kerryeastcoastusa on Jan 30, 2022 15:44:05 GMT
A lot to ponder after that one. Forwards terrible … subs no impact. Defense solid. Some of the panel really aren’t top level intercounty standard and at this stage never will be.
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Post by taggert on Jan 30, 2022 15:44:17 GMT
Kerrys forward play today was as dysfunctional as it was against Tyrone when only 1 of our 6 forwards played well and we conceded 3 goals that day.
If David Moran gave away the 3 2nd half points that A Spillane did (1 turnover soloing in the tackle and 2 frees), he'd be on Crimeline.
Maybe Kerry people need to start asking themselved are far too many players over rated and are several on the panel, not really up to it.
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Post by listowelemerrs on Jan 30, 2022 15:47:14 GMT
Actually one of the worst kerry performances I’ve seen in recent memory. Journalists and football people all over the country think kerry have the best forward line? I’m sorry but I said it last year only the 2 Clifford’s are good enough to win you an all Ireland. Armagh have possibly as good as forward line as us. Mayo’s forwards are good. Tyrone’s also. Geaney, Spillane , o’brien , Moynihan , brosnan and a lot more need to buck up. Sean o shea form is worrying now. He last played well in 2019 imo. Badly need Moran and Diarmaid o Connor back around the middle. O brien is an upgrade on Moynihan and burns if he can get back to 2019 from hopefully. No pace without Gavin white is another worry. Begley looks good and strong this year again. Need all our injured players back and play more direct not this lateral brutal style of backward football under Jack. Not a good start. But here’s hoping.0
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Post by Kingdomson on Jan 30, 2022 15:47:27 GMT
Kildare had some big men around the place and they came to the fore in that 2nd half. The Kerry midfield were cleaned out in that 2nd half and we scored just 3 points in that period. Many expected Kerry to win this game with a degree of comfort but not for the first time things did not go according to script when a bit of pressure came on.
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Post by colinsworth1 on Jan 30, 2022 15:48:56 GMT
We’re going nowhere with performances like that No ball into forwards lucky to get a draw It’s the smallest county grounds in the country Which may have contributed to lack of Width in our attacking play SOS was a non factor in second half the game passed him by It’s early and we have players to come back but Dublin won’t fear us next weekend based on that performance
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Post by mike70 on Jan 30, 2022 15:50:53 GMT
Lads we lost the middle in the second half , the 2 boys were out on there feet, the Kildare boys were full of running, we be glad to have the na Gaeil boys back. The boys inside were snuffed out for must of the game, hard to put the ball in when the boys inside struggled. I did think Kildare had more in the tank as well, anyway take our point, lots work to do. Also a big concern for Gavin White, let’s hope he is alright.
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Post by thehermit on Jan 30, 2022 15:52:39 GMT
Diabolical, absolutely diabolical.
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Post by taggert on Jan 30, 2022 15:53:28 GMT
We’re going nowhere with performances like that No ball into forwards lucky to get a draw It’s the smallest county grounds in the country Which may have contributed to lack of Width in our attacking play SOS was a non factor in second half the game passed him by It’s early and we have players to come back but Dublin won’t fear us next weekend based on that performance I live up here and Dublin haven't feared us in a decade. Most of their fans think we have 1 top forward, a couple of decent backs and thats it.
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Post by thehermit on Jan 30, 2022 15:56:06 GMT
Diabolical, absolutely diabolical. Never seen Clifford so poor, midfield non-existent
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jan 30, 2022 15:58:09 GMT
The Kildare defence were totally on top of us, they actually looked very comfortable in that second half. We looked like we couldn’t break them down at all. The half forward line was a big issue for me. We can only play one of Paudie/Moynihan/Savage/Burns at a time. They’re too similar so they take away from each other when they all play together. Sean O’Shea is needed back at 11 for the Dublin game, midfield doesn’t suit him anyway. Our defence was actually good. A good number of times we swarmed the player in possession and turned him over which is not something we usually see from this team. A poster above mentioned Adrian Spillane was at fault for 3 points, my own view was that he was one of our better performers, he worked very hard and turned over a lot of ball. Foley did well on Daniel Flynn and all the backs played to a reasonable level but all the forwards were poor.
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Post by colinsworth1 on Jan 30, 2022 15:59:59 GMT
We’re going nowhere with performances like that No ball into forwards lucky to get a draw It’s the smallest county grounds in the country Which may have contributed to lack of Width in our attacking play SOS was a non factor in second half the game passed him by It’s early and we have players to come back but Dublin won’t fear us next weekend based on that performance I live up here and Dublin haven't feared us in a decade. Most of their fans think we have 1 top forward, a couple of decent backs and thats it. Understood whatever about the last Decade The Dubs were poor last night and are definitely in transition I thought we’d have a real good chance next Weekend against Dubs but after what I saw today I’m not so sure
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Post by greengold35 on Jan 30, 2022 16:01:16 GMT
A lot to ponder after that one. Forwards terrible … subs no impact. Defense solid. Some of the panel really aren’t top level intercounty standard and at this stage never will be. Totally agree - midfield non existent in 2nd half, 2/3 half forwards replaced ( as expected), David Clifford only threat inside - only hope is that it’s still early days & we probably haven’t delved into tactics etc yet - the return of Diarmuid O’Connor &Jack Barry will give us more options around the middle which should mean Seanie O’Shea moving into forwards but not encouraging.
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Post by Kingdomson on Jan 30, 2022 16:01:31 GMT
We’re going nowhere with performances like that No ball into forwards lucky to get a draw It’s the smallest county grounds in the country Which may have contributed to lack of Width in our attacking play SOS was a non factor in second half the game passed him by It’s early and we have players to come back but Dublin won’t fear us next weekend based on that performance I live up here and Dublin haven't feared us in a decade. Most of their fans think we have 1 top forward, a couple of decent backs and thats it. They also think we are mentally weak when it comes to a dog fight finish and we shrink under pressure.
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Post by gaelicden on Jan 30, 2022 16:03:37 GMT
Well as tradition entails, a poor First Game National League performance for the new manager. We're better off playing like that now rather than finding out our problems in July. But in saying that there's a lot of problems currently, most notably in our Midfield and our entire attacking structure. Ultimately, a major improvement is needed for next week.
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Post by Kingdomson on Jan 30, 2022 16:05:17 GMT
A lot to ponder after that one. Forwards terrible … subs no impact. Defense solid. Some of the panel really aren’t top level intercounty standard and at this stage never will be. Totally agree - midfield non existent in 2nd half, 2/3 half forwards replaced ( as expected), David Clifford only threat inside - only hope is that it’s still early days & we probably haven’t delved into tactics etc yet - the return of Diarmuid O’Connor &Jack Barry will give us more options around the middle which should mean Seanie O’Shea moving into forwards but not encouraging. Agree with most but I thought David C looked well off it following his yellow card (for what I've no idea?) and any ball that went near him was turned over and he was well held to be fair in that second half.
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Post by listowelemerrs on Jan 30, 2022 16:07:38 GMT
Well as tradition entails, a poor First Game National League performance for the new manager. We're better off playing like that now rather than finding out our problems in July. But in saying that there's a lot of problems currently, most notably in our Midfield and our entire attacking structure. Ultimately, a major improvement is needed for next week. That’s the problem. Jack isn’t really an innovative modern manager. I’m not sure has has the guidance powers to turn it around. I’m worried. Whatever people said about P keane. He was flexible enough and was able to tweak things. I wouldn’t be surprised if Jack just tells his players for the team talk ‘lads go out and play football’
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Post by onlykerry on Jan 30, 2022 16:11:32 GMT
Did the forwards stop showing for ball in the second half? Last week Savage was great at moving fast ball to the forwards but today he reverted to lateral play - was it a lack of options or just a better defence on a narrow pitch closing off the options. In the first half they seemed to show better or were the Kildare backs lax and improved in the second half.
Todays midfield pairing did little to advance their cause as midfielders - simply confirms that Diarmuid O Connor, Jack Barry and David Moran are still the best options available to us and sadly the two most likely candidates to put them under pressure are out injured for a number of weeks.
Lack of penetration from the half forwards is a recurring issue for us - we have nice footballers but little in the way of threatening half forwards. We lack physicality in this line.
Backs were decent, particularly given the additional pressure from a losing midfield.
We escaped with a point and learnt a lot from the game - lets see how we can address the learnings for the next few games.
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Post by Kingdomson on Jan 30, 2022 16:11:38 GMT
Only for the scrappy goal we could have been joining Dublin in the house of embarrassment following the weekend. In truth, we were lucky to get the draw and a serious reality check. One game at a time.
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