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Post by homerj on Jan 28, 2022 14:14:57 GMT
setting up match thread for our first outing of the year.
thoughts, expectations predictions?
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Post by thehermit on Jan 28, 2022 14:36:05 GMT
Are many on here traveling up? I expect there should be a decent crowd at it - first game of League, new management for both sides and added spice of Jacko's abrupt departure from the Lilywhites etc
I'm sure Kildare will have a bit of a fire in their belly to start the campaign well and a Kerry scalp in front of the home crowd would be some coup by Glenn Ryan and the whose who of Kildare football he has put together on the sideline.
So I'd expect them to give us our fill of it, but realistically Kildare are a team Kerry should be getting 2 points off if they don't want to be involved in any relegation battle this year.
So considering the momentum of the McGrath Cup behind them I'd be expecting Kerry to come through with a few points to spare in the end.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 28, 2022 14:40:42 GMT
Are many on here traveling up? I expect there should be a decent crowd at it - first game of League, new management for both sides and added spice of Jacko's abrupt departure from the Lilywhites etc I'm sure Kildare will have a bit of a fire in their belly to start the campaign well and a Kerry scalp in front of the home crowd would be some coup by Glenn Ryan and the whose who of Kildare football he has put together on the sideline. So I'd expect them to give us our fill of it, but realistically Kildare are a team Kerry should be getting 2 points off if they don't want to be involved in any relegation battle this year. So considering the momentum of the McGrath Cup behind them I'd be expecting Kerry to come through with a few points to spare in the end. Kildare will surely drop to division 2 so you'd have to expect a win on Sunday. Midfield may be a concern over the next few weekends with bodies we are missing. Looking forward to a game that's not 4 hours away.
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Post by tpo on Jan 28, 2022 15:02:26 GMT
Surprised its not sold out, thought kildare fan would like to see their team take on Kerry
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Post by onlykerry on Jan 28, 2022 16:20:29 GMT
Where does one go to buy a ticket - Kerry site has no tickets for sale and neither does Ticketmaster when I search.
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Post by onlykerry on Jan 28, 2022 16:22:31 GMT
Where does one go to buy a ticket - Kerry site has no tickets for sale and neither does Ticketmaster when I search. Strike that - there is a link from the fixtures page (just not where it says tickets!!)
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Post by givehimaball on Jan 28, 2022 16:52:56 GMT
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Post by tpo on Jan 28, 2022 18:22:52 GMT
Kildare Gaa Free Car Parking in the Whitewater Shopping Centre for Sunday’s NFL game Kildare V Kerry. Show your match programme at the customer service desk in the Whitewater to get your parking ticket validated.
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Post by The16thMan on Jan 28, 2022 18:30:08 GMT
Kildare Gaa Free Car Parking in the Whitewater Shopping Centre for Sunday’s NFL game Kildare V Kerry. Show your match programme at the customer service desk in the Whitewater to get your parking ticket validated. Where do we get the programmes prior to going to the game?
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Post by tpo on Jan 28, 2022 18:40:52 GMT
After match before you pay.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2022 20:05:47 GMT
Any idea when he'll name the team?
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Post by greengold35 on Jan 28, 2022 20:07:31 GMT
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jan 28, 2022 20:19:29 GMT
I don’t like that half forward line, all are very similar players. I would have preferred to see Greg Horan or Eanna O’Conchuir given a start for balance. Even though I also think he’s similar to Paudie and Moynihan, I would have thought Jack Savage would be ahead of Burns in the pecking order. We’re really lacking height in the middle 8 which could cause us a bit of bother, with the half forward line, Paul Murphy and the midfielders are also on the small side for that position. Paul O’Shea the most notable absentee from the 26. Doesn’t look like he’s in Jack’s plans for this year. On the plus side that full forward line is going to worry every team.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 28, 2022 20:33:39 GMT
I don’t like that half forward line, all are very similar players. I would have preferred to see Greg Horan or Eanna O’Conchuir given a start for balance. Even though I also think he’s similar to Paudie and Moynihan, I would have thought Jack Savage would be ahead of Burns in the pecking order. We’re really lacking height in the middle 8 which could cause us a bit of bother, with the half forward line, Paul Murphy and the midfielders are also on the small side for that position. Paul O’Shea the most notable absentee from the 26. Doesn’t look like he’s in Jack’s plans for this year. On the plus side that full forward line is going to worry every team. I agree not overly impressed with that HF line. Savage should be in for Burns for me. Midfield is a concern but we are down 5 options here due to club or injury. Shouldn't be a concern on Sunday but it could be a problem next week.
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Post by horsebox77 on Jan 28, 2022 20:55:22 GMT
Ah I know it’s only the league, but I am surprised at certain aspects of that side, over the entire McGrath cup games, I though Shane Ryan was more assured, most laud the Crokes man kickouts but he wobbled a good bit in the second half last week. I also think our right wing is wide open to being exploited from Kildare kickouts, both Paul Murphy and Burns were exposed at stages last Saturday and anyone with any but of tactical shrewdness will surely exploit.
I would have been happier for Greg had been picked on the wing, all three selected won’t exactly horse into it, all three are on the light side, personally I would have had the two Tralee men on the wings, Savage and Horan.
Surprised too to see Dara Roche on the bench, like someone alluded to above, his inclusion in the expense of the Kilcummin man is baffling for me. Still, I take it that team will take the field, I can’t recall Jack fielding dummy teams but at least we know the full panel including subs. At least that is a step forward.
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Post by mike70 on Jan 28, 2022 20:56:12 GMT
Lads let us not forget, it’s about the squad, me for one happy to see Brosnan and savage on the bench, they will play 60 minutes in Tralee on Tuesday, DM back from injury needs to be road tested and I am sure Kildare will be full on from the start, so that running game suits DM.
Overall I think we can be happy with squad based on what’s available, might have concerns around the middle, but the lads in there are soldiers, let’s see how it goes.
Best of luck to the team and management.
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Post by Mickmack on Jan 28, 2022 21:34:26 GMT
Who is the captain for Sunday.
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Post by mg72 on Jan 28, 2022 21:41:14 GMT
Who is the captain for Sunday. Sean O'Shea
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Post by MeathExile on Jan 28, 2022 21:54:07 GMT
Interesting to see only 1 new face compared to PKs line-ups. Like some of the above comments, I think there is a lack of physicality in that line-up. All the HF line, Paul, and I also think Jason is too light and not aggressive enough for full back. Horses for courses though - perhaps Jack has an insight into Kildare strengths/weaknesses..... I really liked the cut of Dylan Casey in the county final- he has a nice touch of aggression about him that I haven't seen in a Kerry back for a good while - since AoM departed in fact. Looking forward to the first game - cant be there unfortunately as my sons game is on at the same time  ...thank God for TG4......Looking forward to ASP the following week- Dub neighbours travelling en-masse.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jan 28, 2022 22:10:39 GMT
I don’t like that half forward line, all are very similar players. I would have preferred to see Greg Horan or Eanna O’Conchuir given a start for balance. Even though I also think he’s similar to Paudie and Moynihan, I would have thought Jack Savage would be ahead of Burns in the pecking order. We’re really lacking height in the middle 8 which could cause us a bit of bother, with the half forward line, Paul Murphy and the midfielders are also on the small side for that position. Paul O’Shea the most notable absentee from the 26. Doesn’t look like he’s in Jack’s plans for this year. On the plus side that full forward line is going to worry every team. I’m presuming Jack & Tony are being held back for the sigerson game
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Post by thehermit on Jan 28, 2022 22:49:22 GMT
Not my preferred half forward line either and concur with the thoughts about the light/small size of much of the team. But surely Jack must have a serious insight into the Kildare panel and so it must be a horses for courses situation to a big extent.
Roll on Sunday anyway!
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Post by thehermit on Jan 28, 2022 22:50:43 GMT
Kildare Gaa Free Car Parking in the Whitewater Shopping Centre for Sunday’s NFL game Kildare V Kerry. Show your match programme at the customer service desk in the Whitewater to get your parking ticket validated. Thanks for the heads up!!
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Post by Hicser on Jan 28, 2022 23:51:35 GMT
I think Jack is starting it a bit safe, I would expect quite a few subs to be brought on especially if we have a good lead, I hope we experiment in this league, I don’t necessarily want to win it, it’s all about getting a balanced team for the championship, Nos 10 & 12 are up for grabs and I agree more steel in the back line is needed,
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2022 0:27:58 GMT
I'm so disappointed to see Shane Murphy between the posts, hell have started 3 out of our 4 games by Sunday evening, he has zero presence in my opinion.
Also disappointed to see Burns starting. We've all seen him and he's had loads of chances, time to move him on.
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Post by buck02 on Jan 29, 2022 9:07:50 GMT
Size wise we could be in a bit of trouble in the middle 8, Kildare usually have big, strong mobile men in that area and they will probably look to dominate this part of the tight pitch tomorrow.
That area of the pitch will be strengthened with the arrival of the 3 Na Gaeil lads, David Moran and Mike Breen so hopefully if things don't go well tomorrow a bit of perspective will be kept.
I wasn't overly impressed by the GK last week and thought the kickouts were very much hit and miss. More ambitious than what we saw last year - maybe it's better to lose possession 80m from goal rather than constantly having your full back line building it up from our own 21 and losing energy for their primary task?
This is the first away league game that supporters will have been allowed to go to in almost 2 years - it's funny to see that the new Jersey seems to have drawn more talk than the game. Strange times indeed Tony.
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Post by Mickmack on Jan 29, 2022 10:14:44 GMT
If Kildare play a old fashioned 'mark your own man' defensive set up then the Kerry half forward line will cut through for scores.
If however Kildare are organised enough (which i doubt) to play a defensive/counter attacking game it will be interesting to see whether that half forward have it in their locker to kick 3 or 4 long range points which will be needed against teams who set up like that.
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Post by onlykerry on Jan 29, 2022 11:22:13 GMT
There is a lot of criticism of some of the selection particularly the HF line and the size of some of our players. In the next breath we want JOC to give guys a chance and see how lads do in a more competitive environment than the Mc Grath Cup. Throw in injuries and club tied players this is probably very balanced team selection given the desire to win the points, try out lads and not take Kildare for granted. Expect the full compliment of subs to be deployed - there are some bigger challenges ahead starting with Dublin in Tralee next weekend.
There are another dozen (or thereabouts) who will be pushing for team and match days squads that were not available for tomorrow.
Certainties to be in the 26 if available include Mike Breen, David Moran, Jack Barry, Diarmuid O Connor and Stephen O Brien. Realistic hopefuls that could be challenging include Stefan and Joe O Connor and guys hoping to make the breakthrough include Paul O Shea, Jack O Shea, Andrew Barry, Pa Warren, Adam O Donoghue.
This all means tomorrow is important for the team and subs as some may not get too many more opportunities to impress as some of the dozen become available in the next couple of weeks.
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Post by kerryeastcoastusa on Jan 29, 2022 13:44:37 GMT
What is the latest on Joe O Connor? Has he damaged his cruciate? Seems to be unclear from Jacks updates
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Post by greengold35 on Jan 29, 2022 14:12:39 GMT
What is the latest on Joe O Connor? Has he damaged his cruciate? Seems to be unclear from Jacks updates Hasn’t “ done” his cruciate is the latest but some ligament damage - no time frame on a return to training though.
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Jan 29, 2022 14:44:23 GMT
I think that Kerry will account for Kildare very comfortably. I was at the Kildare V Westmeath game in the O Byrne cup and I thought that their passing, particularly their foot passing was excellent. I then went to their game V Laois and their passing and execution of basic skills were awful. Kevin Feeley and Darragh Kirwan are huge losses. David Hyland and Paddy Mac Dermott are surprise exclusions. Shay Ryan wouldn’t be a natural full back and will have his hands full tomorrow. Touchy at wing back has played well in pre season games but has been tried a few times already and hasn’t really taken his opportunities. Jack Sargent on the other wing has been Kildare’s find of the pre season, it will be interesting to see how he fares. Kev Flynn is a class wing back, he has been tried at wing forward and it hasn’t worked but he will be very effective around the middle. Kevin O Callaghan is big and mobile but is inclined to take too much out of the ball. Up front Paddy Woodgate is very accurate off his left, Jimmy Hyland is decent with space and Dan Flynn, well you just never know what you’re going to get. He scored a spectacular goal a week ago but he gave the ball away about 6 or 7 times during the game. I would be very disappointed if Kerry didn’t win by a comfortable margin. They are well ahead of Kildare and a decent performance should see them safely onwards. Looking forward to it, less than 800 tickets left as of last night so St Conleth’s Park should be rocking tomorrow. Safe travel to all, an Ríocht abú!
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