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Post by gamechanger10 on Feb 22, 2022 11:12:38 GMT
Folks can someone please advise me if the game available to view on any online or Gaa go site on Sunday
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Post by onlykerry on Feb 22, 2022 12:25:25 GMT
Dublin had a winning mentality under Gavin and this mattered in the many tight games they won coming down the closing stretch. They had a very strong squad smattered with a few exceptional players. The winning mentality gave them longevity as their 5th and 6th AI wins were won with a squad that were reaching into the memory banks to pull out victories - the signs were there that the machine was grinding rather than purring and Gavin was the mechanic supreme that kept them going.
Whether he was cute and got out when he knew he was on borrowed time or not his replacement was facing an uphill battle and does not seem to have the ability or respect of the players to keep it going. Some of Dublin's remaining warriors are finding the going tough and the hunger just is not there for them to keep going to the well and pulling out big performances.
Dublin will always be dangerous with their resources (financial and player numbers) but they will need to re-group and find a new leadership group on both the sideline and on the pitch if they are to reclaim their crown.
The door is definitely open to the next 3-4 teams and it should be an interesting year to see who steps up - Horan is building belief in Mayo and I think they will be the big challenge come the summer.
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Post by dc84 on Feb 22, 2022 12:36:02 GMT
Fenton for me was extremely fortunate that he played during a period when there weren't many stand out opposing midfielders out there. He didn't have anyone really to compete with. I think playing on a team that was so good made him look alot better too. Of the midfielders that were there like Moran he never really went up against him mcarthy or Mcauley would do that job dublin always tried to keep him away from lads who might beat him in the air at the moment he is trying to do everything and with howard not playing well 8s struggling i feel
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 22, 2022 12:55:53 GMT
John McDermot, Kevin Walsh, Paul Mcgrane, Anthony Tohill, Darragh OSE, To name but a few of the greats of the 90s and 00s. I'd love to have seen him up against them.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 23, 2022 21:27:15 GMT
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Post by Jo90 on Feb 23, 2022 22:24:25 GMT
Still, in the Mayo-Dublin game, Dublin had 9 players from the 2021 semi-final, Mayo had only 7 and beat them comprehensively.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Feb 23, 2022 23:28:13 GMT
That number is inflated by the 2 random players Farrell brings on with 5 minutes to go every game. They’re different each game and don’t look near the standard of getting proper game time. It seems to have no reason behind other than so he can say he’s trying players out. They’ve fielded the strongest 15 they’ve had available each game they aren’t experimenting that much. Mayo to be fair to them are building a strong panel and Horan unlike Farrell seems to have a plan and knows what he’s doing. Dublin aren’t finding anyone bar maybe Gannon and he hasn’t wowed anyone either. I wouldn’t consider playing players nearing 30 (Basquel and O’Conghaile) who haven’t made it experimenting.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 24, 2022 19:43:36 GMT
THU, 24 FEB, 2022 - 18:05 EOGHAN CORMICAN “If and when they get their act together”, Cork will once again be a footballing “force”. That’s according to Galway selector John Concannon who says their Division 2 opponents this weekend are “way better” than what they’ve shown in the opening three rounds of the League. Unbeaten Galway travel to Leeside tomorrow evening to face a Cork side that is without a win in Division 2 and likely still reeling from their nine-point shellacking away to Derry last Sunday, a fixture during which the visitors to Owenbeg managed only a paltry three points from play across the 70-plus minutes. Not since the county’s 2019 League campaign, which ended in relegation to Division 3, have Cork gone four consecutive games without a victory. It’s a run they’ll be desperate to avoid repeating on home soil tomorrow and given their backs are firmly against the wall, Concannon knows Keith Ricken’s charges will make for difficult opposition at Páirc Uí Chaoimh. “Cork need a win big time,” said Galway selector Concannon. “Nobody wants to see Cork down in Division 3, so they'll be going all guns blazing to get a victory on Saturday. They have only one point out of six, but have had a few tough games against Derry and Roscommon. With the Barrs lads back with them and they being at home, it will be a very difficult fixture for us.” Concannon points to Cork’s underage All-Ireland double from 2019 and the structures put in place as part of the five-year football plan as evidence that the county is building, adding that when this talent and work translates to on-field performances, Cork will again be a force. “Traditionally, they are a powerhouse. They have some good players. Two years ago, they beat Kerry at a time when everyone thought Kerry were going to beat Dublin and win the All-Ireland. Learn more “They have the biggest number of clubs in the country. If and when they get their act together, they will be a force. “At the moment, things aren't going their way, but they are definitely way better than what they have shown in the first three League games. Last weekend, they had a brilliant goal chance just before Derry got their goal. Had Cork got that, it would have made it a one-point game. Games change on things like that. We won't be taking them for granted on Saturday.” With Galway’s postponed Round 3 fixture against Offaly expected to be rescheduled for the break weekend at the beginning of next month, tomorrow’s game represents their first of five straight weekends on the go. And should they reach the League final, it will mean six consecutive weekends of action for Pádraic Joyce’s charges. Consider too that nine of Joyce’s panel were involved right up to the concluding evening of the Sigerson Cup and it means management have a delicate balancing act to strike between chasing Division 1 promotion while not overloading a group of players - many of whom are first-team regulars - who have already clocked significant mileage in recent weeks. “Lads want to play games, but five weekends in a row is conducive to injury and player burnout. We are in daily talks with Jonathan Harris-Wright and the rest of the strength and conditioning team where they are looking at the GPS stats, the load players have in their legs, and the amount of games they are playing. “The hardest thing is to tell the lads they can't play this game or you're only playing 35 or 40 minutes in that game. You know young lads; they want to play every single game, especially when they are in really good form and have that winning momentum from the Sigerson. But we have to manage them coming up to championship." By which point in the calendar Galway hope to again hold Division 1 status. “No more than talking about Cork as a football stronghold, we feel Galway should be in Division 1 all the time. Our main aim is to keep winning and get promoted to Division 1.” www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40815576.html
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Post by john4 on Feb 26, 2022 23:39:46 GMT
Galway 3-22, Cork 2-17. An 8 point defeat for Cork. Put up a good score but not enough. Could actually still survive based solely on the fact that Down and Offaly are also doing very poorly.
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Post by horsebox77 on Feb 28, 2022 22:55:27 GMT
Tickets for the Mayo clash in Tralee are available to purchase now online.
Just picked up my ones, I don't know will it sell out but there may be a bit of demand.
The season holders in Mayo may not be on a par to Dublin but I envidsge they would be high enough.
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Post by southward on Feb 28, 2022 23:09:48 GMT
Tickets for the Mayo clash in Tralee are available to purchase now online. Just picked up my ones, I don't know will it sell out but there may be a bit of demand.The season holders in Mayo may not be on a par to Dublin but I envidsge they would be high enough. Dunno, they've been out for a while now, got mine weeks ago.
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Post by dc84 on Mar 1, 2022 12:02:09 GMT
The next round is fascinating and will determine a lot! whoever wins the kerry mayo game has a great chance of making the final. Tyrone vs dublin , after last weekend Tyrone need a win here and unless dublin get 2 or 3 back its hard to see them leaving omagh with 2 pts. Donegal monaghan, if Donegal win they have a decent chance of making the final monaghan are desperate now and a win would be massive for them. Armagh kildare will also be interesting can kildare back up a great win or can Armagh bounce back and show that it wasn't just fitness and being super up for first few games.
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Post by thehermit on Mar 1, 2022 13:24:46 GMT
Just looking at the remaining fixtures and League table you would think Tyrone would be well up on home soil for driving another stake into Dublin.
Donegal might not be too bothered about getting a win in Croker given they should be safe anyway but lets say Dublin lose to Tyrone and beat Donegal then they are going into a final game away to Monaghan with both counties needing a win to avoid the drop.
I still can't see Dublin going down, I'm sure they'll get the usual dodgy ref decisions to swing a game when it really matters - yet its not as fanciful a prospect as it was a month ago.
No harm if they did drop and were given a good serving of humility. Would still expect them to be there or there abouts come the summer with the players to come back. But remember too that no team coming down to D2 has won an All Ireland in many a long year
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Post by Joxer on Mar 1, 2022 13:30:44 GMT
From looking at the league table, I think if Dublin lose to Tyrone, they cannot avoid relegation.
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Post by thehermit on Mar 1, 2022 13:49:02 GMT
Well then its battleground Omagh, unfortunately I don't think Tyrone have any great record of beating Dublin up there. They certainly could never manage it all the times Dublin were up there for their one away game in the Championship.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2022 14:02:29 GMT
Just looking at the remaining fixtures and League table you would think Tyrone would be well up on home soil for driving another stake into Dublin. Donegal might not be too bothered about getting a win in Croker given they should be safe anyway but lets say Dublin lose to Tyrone and beat Donegal then they are going into a final game away to Monaghan with both counties needing a win to avoid the drop. I still can't see Dublin going down, I'm sure they'll get the usual dodgy ref decisions to swing a game when it really matters - yet its not as fanciful a prospect as it was a month ago. No harm if they did drop and were given a good serving of humility. Would still expect them to be there or there abouts come the summer with the players to come back. But remember too that no team coming down to D2 has won an All Ireland in many a long year I can't see dublin going down either, the gaa won't allow it after pumping nearly 30 million into them over the last number of years. Wait for a dodgy red card to a Tyrone player, probably a Nial Morgan and a load of very soft frees and a penalty for dublin. dublin always lived off of the soft free their reffs used to give them.
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Post by thehermit on Mar 1, 2022 14:57:11 GMT
Just looking at the remaining fixtures and League table you would think Tyrone would be well up on home soil for driving another stake into Dublin. Donegal might not be too bothered about getting a win in Croker given they should be safe anyway but lets say Dublin lose to Tyrone and beat Donegal then they are going into a final game away to Monaghan with both counties needing a win to avoid the drop. I still can't see Dublin going down, I'm sure they'll get the usual dodgy ref decisions to swing a game when it really matters - yet its not as fanciful a prospect as it was a month ago. No harm if they did drop and were given a good serving of humility. Would still expect them to be there or there abouts come the summer with the players to come back. But remember too that no team coming down to D2 has won an All Ireland in many a long year I can't see dublin going down either, the gaa won't allow it after pumping nearly 30 million into them over the last number of years. Wait for a dodgy red card to a Tyrone player, probably a Nial Morgan and a load of very soft frees and a penalty for dublin. dublin always lived off of the soft free their reffs used to give them. When oh when did we become so cynical Kingdomboy
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Post by ciarrai74 on Mar 1, 2022 15:34:29 GMT
Hello lads [Horsebox/The Hermit/Kingdom]. Hope all are keeping well. I finally joined here[couldn't have my old username. 'GreenAndGold74].
Great forum here as have done lots of reading recently on the threads. Proper knowledgeable folks unlike that other place we used write on.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 1, 2022 16:05:27 GMT
Dublin are going down lads,
Both themselves and Tyrone need a win in two weeks and Tyrone would love nothing more than sending them down.
Yes they'll bounce back up but it's some indictment that the 6 time all ireland champions of the last 7 years are relegated.
Now I know posters want to keep them up etc but I don't.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 1, 2022 16:11:48 GMT
I can't see dublin going down either, the gaa won't allow it after pumping nearly 30 million into them over the last number of years. Wait for a dodgy red card to a Tyrone player, probably a Nial Morgan and a load of very soft frees and a penalty for dublin. dublin always lived off of the soft free their reffs used to give them. When oh when did we become so cynical Kingdomboy Dubs won't get much mercy from Dgal I'm afraid and if Kildare is the benchmark then we are in for another cracker. With the AI champs already disposed of at the weekend this would be just the notch in the belt to light the Dgal fire. Many question Bonnar but in fairness none of the losses can are attributable to him IMO. They are a tight bunch and what is often forgotten is the sheer depth and quality of raw sports culture and consequent expertise up here, it has always been one big playground, I'd say there is more sport here than anywhere else on the planet, stems from creativity - there are instances of it being quenched elsewhere and NKs lack of county players is hardly a coincidence? I think not and believe you me, I have the scars to prove it, I had GAA articles rejected by the Ballydonoghue Parish Magazine, the same publication that recently prematurely announced the death of a well known national politician who wasn't exactly a friend of theirs. They even refused to withdraw the offending material at the time and word is the victim is still none the wiser while the said news still spreads around the world. Imagine! Ballythefireside Quote of the day - Power corrupts and absolute power absolutely corrupts
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Post by ciarrai74 on Mar 1, 2022 16:19:46 GMT
It's almost hard to believe the once mighty Dubs could be relegated.
I'm sure many County Boards will be disappointed from a financial aspect if Dublin go down.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2022 16:23:00 GMT
I can't see dublin going down either, the gaa won't allow it after pumping nearly 30 million into them over the last number of years. Wait for a dodgy red card to a Tyrone player, probably a Nial Morgan and a load of very soft frees and a penalty for dublin. dublin always lived off of the soft free their reffs used to give them. When oh when did we become so cynical Kingdomboy I know, its bad isn't it 🤪
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 1, 2022 17:45:21 GMT
When oh when did we become so cynical Kingdomboy I know, its bad isn't it 🤪 You can take the boy from the cynicism of HS but can’t take the HS cynicism from the boy 👦
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 1, 2022 17:46:08 GMT
Dublin are going down lads, Both themselves and Tyrone need a win in two weeks and Tyrone would love nothing more than sending them down. Yes they'll bounce back up but it's some indictment that the 6 time all ireland champions of the last 7 years are relegated. Now I know posters want to keep them up etc but I don't. I’m inclined to agree with you, like the old premiership saying, no team is too big to go down, unfortunately for the Dublin team, they have Tyrone, Donegal and Monaghan. With two of these games away and worse against two teams that also need the points, I can’t see Dubkin getting two points against Tyrone in Omagh and as you alluded to, Tyrone would only love to put the boot in when given half the chance. It may come down to the last game and a dog fight against Monaghan with both teams needing points to stay up. What is crucial is and most haven’t mentioned is that Kildare have them in a head to head if they finish level, this mean that a draw in any of the remaining games may not even be enough, they have to win all three. I can’t see this occurring so, ya, I think they are is serious trouble and favourites to drop, the Kildare game may be the most significant.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 1, 2022 18:39:20 GMT
It's almost hard to believe the once mighty Dubs could be relegated. I'm sure many County Boards will be disappointed from a financial aspect if Dublin go down. Personally I'd be of the 'may the best team win school' but everyone will want to keep ploughing the Kildare furrow, and being stoked up might be just the medicine our Blues brothers need when we all get down to business.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2022 19:12:05 GMT
I know, its bad isn't it 🤪 You can take the boy from the cynicism of HS but can’t take the HS cynicism from the boy 👦 ain't that the thruth 😂
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 1, 2022 19:44:28 GMT
Hello lads [Horsebox/The Hermit/Kingdom]. Hope all are keeping well. I finally joined here[couldn't have my old username. 'GreenAndGold74]. Great forum here as have done lots of reading recently on the threads. Proper knowledgeable folks unlike that other place we used write on. The family is reuniting... 😁.. it is great to have us move in block.. we're years interacting, it's great to find a common table to continue to converse and maintain contact.
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Post by mg72 on Mar 1, 2022 19:44:51 GMT
Just looking at the remaining fixtures and League table you would think Tyrone would be well up on home soil for driving another stake into Dublin. Donegal might not be too bothered about getting a win in Croker given they should be safe anyway but lets say Dublin lose to Tyrone and beat Donegal then they are going into a final game away to Monaghan with both counties needing a win to avoid the drop. I still can't see Dublin going down, I'm sure they'll get the usual dodgy ref decisions to swing a game when it really matters - yet its not as fanciful a prospect as it was a month ago. No harm if they did drop and were given a good serving of humility. Would still expect them to be there or there abouts come the summer with the players to come back. But remember too that no team coming down to D2 has won an All Ireland in many a long year From Dublins own point of view, I don't think it'd be the end of the world for them if they go down. If they spend a year or two rebuilding in division 2, I reckon they'll come back nearly as strong as they were in the last decade or so. Hopefully I'm proved wrong though 😬
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2022 22:37:15 GMT
If Dublin go down I would think they will come straight back up. However looking at the fixtures even if Tyrone beat them they might still stay up. Donegal are not great travellers in the league and Dublin should beat them in Croker. Then they gave Monaghan in last game and 4 points might save them depending on results if Tyrone beat them Mick they'd have to hammer Donegal and Monaghan because of the points difference, or does it go on wins against?
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 1, 2022 22:42:11 GMT
Head to head first but if more than two finish on same points, then scoring average comes into play.
The first round draws and the one point allocated though means Dublin may have to win all three.. more so as Kildare have them on a head to head
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