McGrath Cup 2022

[john4]

There was I thinking I could get 2 streams. One for myself and 1 for the young fella.

I can't even login ffs

[dano]

Yes I Think clubber crashed. Hope I get my tenner back.

[thehermit]

Trust me your the smarter men staying home, it's Baltic in here tonight 🥶

[royalkerryfan]

This is abysmal.
Radio Kerry it is so...

[gaelicden]

Computers... They'll never catch on

[playitfair]

The Munster gaa twitter account is saying that as some users cannot access the match there will be a full refund and the match will be shown later.

I wonder has anyone managed to see it through this "clubbertv" thing?

[horsebox77]

Munster Council just apologised on Twitter and advised that all accounts will be fully refunded and the full game will be available free of charge on their online platforms post game.

[Deleted]

Jan 5, 2022 19:14:30 GMT playitfair said:

Jan 5, 2022 19:12:24 GMT @asprilla said:

They'll surely get it sorted soon.

I wouldn't think so.

can we watch it back later?

[john4]

The game throws in at 7pm. Tickets must be purchased online. @munstergaa are streaming the game (not Kerry GAA) via t.co/Wh5yarMFjD also there will be live commentary from @radiokerrysport For more information click here t.co/Q1GrzYjmex


In fairness to Kerry Gaa, They knew an hour before throw in what to expect from clubber and disowned it before it even started 😉😉

The cute Kerryman, wha

[gaelicden]

Clubber.ie seems to be working again from my perspective... a bit too little, too late circa forty something minutes into the match

[Deleted]

Based on the scoreline, the game sounds like a fairly pointless exercise

[hatchetman]

Not sure we're missing much, 18 points up after 43 minutes.

Maybe they should broadcast the A Vs B games in training, there seems to be some demand for games at this time of year and they'd be more competitive.

[Deleted]

Jan 5, 2022 19:53:35 GMT horsebox77 said:

Munster Council just apologised on Twitter and advised that all accounts will be fully refunded and the full game will be available free of charge on their online platforms post game.

Fair play for addressing the issue so quickly

[Mickmack]

Jan 5, 2022 19:56:31 GMT @asprilla said:

Jan 5, 2022 19:14:30 GMT playitfair said:

I wouldn't think so.

can we watch it back later?

Clubber website that if you miss the game live that you can watch it after the fact.

Not sure if that will apply in this instance

[sullyschoice]

Clubber replied to my email saying they are refunding everyone

[playitfair]

Got the last 10 minutes, quality was quite good until the screen froze again.

Whatever about the match, I can say with conviction that it was not a good night for clubber.

[john4]

Any company that gets involved in streaming intercounty matches online needs to have their technology fairly bulletproof. This could cost them 3 or 4 grand!
I'd find fault with Munster Gaa here actually for giving the gig to clubber without ensuring that they were capable of delivering. Anyway, great to get off to a good start

[63587614]

How was Savage lads, just caught game on Radio. Is he only back from Covid.

[The16thMan]

Left at halftime because it was a non contest and given the way the 2nd half was I'm glad I did. Paudie Clifford was the outstanding player in the 1st half, his kickpassing and ball carrying was brilliant and got a deserved goal. I'm aware there wasn't much competition but it will surely have Jack thinking that Paudie will have that 11 shirt to himself. Seánie might be more suited to midfield.

[Whosinmidfield]

I was there. Despite the big winning margin, Kerry were poor I thought. Very slow and ponderous with no one willing to take it on. Paudie Clifford was the exception, he really is a brilliant footballer. I couldn’t pick out anyone else who impressed. Based on tonight, midfield won’t be Okunbor’s position anyway.

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Jan 5, 2022 20:30:16 GMT Mickmack said:

Jan 5, 2022 19:56:31 GMT @asprilla said:

can we watch it back later?

Clubber website that if you miss the game live that you can watch it after the fact.

Not sure if that will apply in this instance

tried to watch it now Mick and it goes grand for the first 2 minutes then it skips on about 25 mins then after another 2 mins it skips to the second half and then it jumps out of the stream, its done this 3 times so far, this is a brutal service, I'd have gone to the match had I thought this was the way it was going to go.

[sullyschoice]

How did Stepan Okunbar do. Didn't hear too much of him on radio. Saw a brilliant photo of him on Sportsfile though

[royalkerryfan]

Wow even the recorded game is all over the place on Clubber.
Don't want to be too critical of an Irish company bringing us games we'd rarely see but its not a great start.

[Mickmack]

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WED, 05 JAN, 2022 - 20:59
EOGHAN CORMICAN, AUSTIN STACK PARK
McGrath Cup Group B: Kerry 2-23 Limerick 0-6

A winning return for Jack O’Connor, his third coming as Kerry manager beginning with an emphatic 23-point thumping of Limerick in this McGrath Cup Group B opener.

With the calendar reading January 5 and this being the county’s opening fixture of the new season, the expectation was that an experimental Kerry team would be put out at Austin Stack Park. And while the starting team named earlier in the day did contain three debutants in Dan O'Donoghue, Pa Warren, and Stefan Okunbor, it also included eight players who began last August’s extra-time All-Ireland semi-final defeat to Tyrone.

The latter stat contributed heavily to the lopsided nature of proceedings, Paul Geaney and the Clifford brothers - who kicked 2-9 between them in the opening half - running riot as Kerry sped 16 points clear come the interval.

Of the Kerry newcomers, both Warren and midfielder Stefan Okunbor were withdrawn at half-time, their early calling ashore linked to the fact that their respective clubs, Gneeveguilla and Na Gaeil, are in Munster club final action the weekend after next.

Kerry replacements were to the fore during a drab and lifeless second period, Tony Brosnan, Sean O’Shea, and Micheál Burns on the mark from play.

The game as a contest, as noted above, was long over when John Ryan’s half-time whistle sounded, the hosts 2-13 to 0-3 in front.


Limerick set out their defensive stall right from the off, all 14 outfield Limerick players retreating inside their own half after debutant Okunbor rose well to win the throw-in. Kerry proceeded to hold possession for the first minute and 42 seconds of action until eventually, Limerick made their white wall count as three Limerick shirts forced Gavin Crowley to overcarry. It was, however, to prove one of the few occasions where Limerick succeeded in thwarting a Kerry attack.


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With the Kerry forward unit containing five of the six players who started last season’s All-Ireland semi-final defeat to Tyrone, Limerick were both overrun and outplayed by the sheer strength and skillset of the Kingdom attack.

Most noticeable for January 5 was the sharpness of the Kerry forwards, particularly so their passing, with a number of marks made throughout the opening half.

The Clifford brothers proved the most troublesome of the Kerry forwards early doors, with the All-Star siblings accounting for all bar one point of Kerry’s opening 2-6.

Paudie delivered the opening major of the evening five minutes in after debutant Pa Warren overran a clever David Clifford handpass.

It was roles reversed for their second green flag on 11 minutes; Paudie involved in the build-up, David volleying to the net.

Also involved in the creation of Kerry’s second goal was Paul Geaney, the 31-year-old becoming the first Kerry forward outside of the Clifford men to write his name onto the scoresheet when throwing over a brace on 21 and 23 minutes. So impressive was Geaney’s distribution of possession, the Dingle corner-forward providing the final pass for several of Kerry’s first-half points.

The workrate of the Kerry forwards when not in possession was another catching feature of the first 35 minutes, the greatest example of such coming on 13 minutes when the younger of the Clifford brothers dispossessed a Limerick player close to the 65-metre line in the Kerry half of the field.

Limerick centre-back Cillian Fahy kicked two of their three first-half points, with three points again all they could muster in the second period.

Kerry are away to Tipperary next Wednesday evening in their second and last Group B outing.

Scorers for Kerry: D Clifford (1-4, 0-1 mark, 0-1 free); P Clifford (1-2); S O’Shea (0-4, 0-3 frees); P Geaney (0-3, 0-1 free, 0-1 mark), T Brosnan (0-3, 0-1 free); K Spillane (0-2); P Warren, M Breen, D Moynihan, S O’Brien, M Burns (0-1 each).

Scorers for Limerick: C Fahy (0-2); D Noonan, P Nash, R Bourke, L O’Sullivan (0-1 each).

Kerry: S Murphy; D O’Donoghue, J Foley, T O’Sullivan; P Warren, M Breen, G Crowley; S Okunbor, A Spillane; D Moynihan, P Clifford, S O’Brien; K Spillane, D Clifford, P Geaney.

Subs: T Brosnan for Clifford, C Gammell for Warren, S O’Shea for Okunbor (all HT); B Ó Beaglaíoch for Breen, M Burns for P Clifford (both 44); J Savage for Moynihan (48); P O’Shea for A Spillane (49); D Roche for Geaney (54).

Limerick: D O’Sullivan; J Liston, L Murphy, M O’Sullivan; T McCarthy, C Fahy, C McSweeney; D Treacy, R Bourke; P De Brún, R O’Brien, H Bourke; D Noonan, D Kelly, P Nash.

Subs: L O’Sullivan for M O’Sullivan (15 mins, inj); J Hayes for O’Brien, B Coleman for R Bourke (both 47); S Barry for D Kelly (54); D Ranahan for Liston (58).

Referee: J Ryan (Cork).

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[Premier]

Jan 5, 2022 21:07:05 GMT Whosinmidfield said:

I was there. Despite the big winning margin, Kerry were poor I thought. Very slow and ponderous with no one willing to take it on. Paudie Clifford was the exception, he really is a brilliant footballer. I couldn’t pick out anyone else who impressed. Based on tonight, midfield won’t be Okunbor’s position anyway.

Win by 23 points with 6 points conceded, that’s impressive negativity. What did you want 6-47 to no score? Every forward scored, half back win contributed. Can’t ask for much more

[Whosinmidfield]

Jan 5, 2022 21:58:43 GMT Premier said:

Jan 5, 2022 21:07:05 GMT Whosinmidfield said:

I was there. Despite the big winning margin, Kerry were poor I thought. Very slow and ponderous with no one willing to take it on. Paudie Clifford was the exception, he really is a brilliant footballer. I couldn’t pick out anyone else who impressed. Based on tonight, midfield won’t be Okunbor’s position anyway.

Win by 23 points with 6 points conceded, that’s impressive negativity. What did you want 6-47 to no score? Every forward scored, half back win contributed. Can’t ask for much more

Maybe I’m being harsh, just didn’t think it was a great performance but then again it’s of little benefit playing great football in early January. Bear in mind it wasn’t too far away from a full strength Kerry side against a second string Limerick. Look it’s only the McGrath Cup and when there’s a gulf between the teams maybe it’s hard to really hit a high gear. Also credit to Limerick they managed to make it difficult for Kerry at times with numbers behind the ball. At one stage in the first half you could hear Paudie Clifford getting very frustrated with the lack of urgency on the ball at the back, and I thought he had good reason. At least the lads should have a good bit of the dirty petrol gotten rid of after tonight.

[mike70]

Job done, nothing to exciting tonight, preseason game time for fellas, hopefully games and opposition will improve to McGrath cup final and set up the new management to bed in their plan for the championship during the league, welcome games I say ahead of league campaign.

[Mickmack]

WED, 05 JAN, 2022 - 20:17
CIAN LOCKE
Munster GAA has apologised and pledged to refund in full any subscribers who tried and failed to tune into livestream coverage of Wednesday night's McGrath Cup opener between Kerry and Limerick from Tralee.

The provincial council, and its streaming partner Clubber TV, were subjected to stinging criticism from frustrated GAA fans after a coverage crash from Austin Stack Park - with most taking to social media to vent their anger and demand refunds.

Supporters keen to see Jack O'Connor's first game back in charge of the Kingdom paid €10 but most abandoned their efforts to view the game via Clubber TV and listened to the game on local radio instead.

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Jack O'Connor's Kerry return off to flying start as Clifford brothers lead the way
With the game still ongoing, Munster GAA confirmed that all subscribers would be refunded: "As some users are still unable to access the Live Stream of tonight’s McGrath Cup game, all subscribers will be refunded. Footage of the full game will be posted free-to-air on our online platforms after the completion of tonight’s game. We apologise for the inconvenience caused."

As criticism mounted, they added on Twitter: "Hundreds of people are watching the stream right now actually - but it's still not acceptable from anyone's point of view and we are refunding everyone and putting the game up later for free."

Kerry GAA were also caught in the crossfire, but pointed out through its official channels: "This game is not being streamed by Kerry GAA."

[thehermit]

Well as the hot Bushmills percolates my bones and brain and slowly defrosts my iced core I might as well give my two cents on tonight's proceedings.

The bitter cold meant the Kerry jersey was buried deep deep beneath many layers of wool (and Christmas pudding - seriously I never remember putting so much weight on any Christmas before). But I rambled up to the half way line on the terrace side and with the constant thought "its the eve of Little Christmas and only a Limerick B team on the field" I still dwelt on the satisfaction of being able to see a Kerry game in person. If one thing has come out of this pandemic, its appreciating the joy of going to live sporting events. I'll never take the simple pleasure of being able to go to a game for granted again.

As for the match itself, well Kerry started brightly and had it won within ten minutes. Its clear some of the older guard came with the attitude that we need to sow a few seeds of doubt in the new Bainisteoir's head if he's thinking of relegating us to the sub bench or worse. That was particularly the case with the Dingle man. You felt he was fighting toot and nail to prove he was not yesterday's man just yet. I felt Paul was an impressive performer all night.

Stephen showed energy too but the Clifford's were a class apart on the field tonight. You'd swear it was their first outing and they were trying desperately to impress skeptics. Paudie was the standout of the brothers and the Kerry team in all. I felt I could detect an early determination to right the fact he was seconded bested by Tyrone when it mattered most last season. But maybe that's reading too much into a performance before Christmas has even ended.

Some of David's scores were, as usual, sublime but he showed some great commitment too. With the game long won he still tracked back to dispose a Limerick man on the Kerry side of the half way. And he was vocal at the water break and even in the dugout once substituted.

There was also some beautiful kicking passing, long and accurate into the full forward line and Killian was responsible for a couple that landed sweetly into David's hands. They briefly warmed up a bitter night.

But after all that it is hard to pick out much else for special mention. I was watching keenly all the new debutantes put honestly there was not much to report on. Limerick were so outclassed that making any judgement of the defence is hard. O Donoghue, Warren and Breen did little wrong but nothing too noteworthy. However a couple of times in the early minutes Limerick made dangerous forays into the Kerry goalmouth and it was worryingly noticeable how much our full back line was caught out of position and left the door open.

The midfield did their job without any serious test. While there's naturally a lot of insert in Okunbor's performance I can't honestly say I saw anything that deserves special mention for the half he played.

Much the same for the rake of substitutes that started to come on from the start of the second half on. Of the lot Tony Brosnan was the shinning light and he kicked a couple of lovely scores. But Ó Beaglaíoch, Savage, O Shea, Roche and Gammel did little to grab the crowds attention. Burns came on two and harsh as this probably sounds given the context of the game - but I felt if he was looking to make Jack think, he didn't succeed too well. I'm not sure he is inter-county standard at this stage given all the chances he's had.

So a 23 point win but nothing to make you dream of a homecoming in Denny St next July. As someone already mentioned above, Kerry - despite the impressive scoreline - were often too slow and ponderous. Its infuriating (but increasingly common) to see Kerry players run onto a ball and then (almost by instinct now) check their run, turn and look behind them for someone to pass to. Direct running, pace and accuracy that's surely the road to glory?!

As for how the year might pan out based on tonight, well tomorrow never knows as the great musical geniuses of the 20th Century once sang.


Anyway so ends my first match report for the Kerry GAA forum. Be kind!

[royalkerryfan]

Jan 5, 2022 22:26:12 GMT thehermit said:

Well as the hot Bushmills percolates my bones and brain and slowly defrosts my iced core I might as well give my two cents on tonight's proceedings.

The bitter cold meant the Kerry jersey was buried deep deep beneath many layers of wool (and Christmas pudding - seriously I never remember putting so much weight on any Christmas before). But I rambled up to the half way line on the terrace side and with the constant thought "its the eve of Little Christmas and only a Limerick B team on the field" I still dwelt on the satisfaction of being able to see a Kerry game in person. If one thing has come out of this pandemic, its appreciating the joy of going to live sporting events. I'll never take the simple pleasure of being able to go to a game for granted again.

As for the match itself, well Kerry started brightly and had it won within ten minutes. Its clear some of the older guard came with the attitude that we need to sow a few seeds of doubt in the new Bainisteoir's head if he's thinking of relegating us to the sub bench or worse. That was particularly the case with the Dingle man. You felt he was fighting toot and nail to prove he was not yesterday's man just yet. I felt Paul was an impressive performer all night.

Stephen showed energy too but the Clifford's were a class apart on the field tonight. You'd swear it was their first outing and they were trying desperately to impress skeptics. Paudie was the standout of the brothers and the Kerry team in all. I felt I could detect an early determination to right the fact he was seconded bested by Tyrone when it mattered most last season. But maybe that's reading too much into a performance before Christmas has even ended.

Some of David's scores were, as usual, sublime but he showed some great commitment too. With the game long won he still tracked back to dispose a Limerick man on the Kerry side of the half way. And he was vocal at the water break and even in the dugout once substituted.

There was also some beautiful kicking passing, long and accurate into the full forward line and Killian was responsible for a couple that landed sweetly into David's hands. They briefly warmed up a bitter night.

But after all that it is hard to pick out much else for special mention. I was watching keenly all the new debutantes put honestly there was not much to report on. Limerick were so outclassed that making any judgement of the defence is hard. O Donoghue, Warren and Breen did little wrong but nothing too noteworthy. However a couple of times in the early minutes Limerick made dangerous forays into the Kerry goalmouth and it was worryingly noticeable how much our full back line was caught out of position and left the door open.

The midfield did their job without any serious test. While there's naturally a lot of insert in Okunbor's performance I can't honestly say I saw anything that deserves special mention for the half he played.

Much the same for the rake of substitutes that started to come on from the start of the second half on. Of the lot Tony Brosnan was the shinning light and he kicked a couple of lovely scores. But Ó Beaglaíoch, Savage, O Shea, Roche and Gammel did little to grab the crowds attention. Burns came on two and harsh as this probably sounds given the context of the game - but I felt if he was looking to make Jack think, he didn't succeed too well. I'm not sure he is inter-county standard at this stage given all the chances he's had.

So a 23 point win but nothing to make you dream of a homecoming in Denny St next July. As someone already mentioned above, Kerry - despite the impressive scoreline - were often too slow and ponderous. Its infuriating (but increasingly common) to see Kerry players run onto a ball and then (almost by instinct now) check their run, turn and look behind them for someone to pass to. Direct running, pace and accuracy that's surely the road to glory?!

As for how the year might pan out based on tonight, well tomorrow never knows as the great musical geniuses of the 20th Century once sang.


Anyway so ends my first match report for the Kerry GAA forum. Be kind!

Excellent read, great contribution.