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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 30, 2021 19:29:21 GMT
Let's get the ball rolling on this one,
What if any changes do you envisage for this game?
For me I'd like Ryan back in goals and possibly move Breen to 6 and restore Murphy to 5.
Spillane or Barry in midfield.
From the bench I'd like to see more of Brosnan.
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 1, 2021 9:49:45 GMT
Management will probably revert to Shane Ryan and leave the rest alone barring injuries.
For what its worth, I would relegate Gavin Crowley to the bench with either Mike Breen or Gavin White going to centre back and Morley/Paul Murphy coming into wing back; Killian Spillane is worthy of a start in place of Paul Geaney.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 1, 2021 16:58:56 GMT
Management will probably revert to Shane Ryan and leave the rest alone barring injuries. For what its worth, I would relegate Gavin Crowley to the bench with either Mike Breen or Gavin White going to centre back and Morley/Paul Murphy coming into wing back; Killian Spillane is worthy of a start in place of Paul Geaney. I think Spillane may have found a super sub tag which can be impossible to shift.
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Post by ballhopper34 on Jul 1, 2021 17:27:51 GMT
The problem with Paul Geaney at 12 might be the quality of his direct opponent. The Donegal lad McHugh would not be a good matchup for Paul, I think.
Although with Kerry playing with the hand-brake off, all opposing half backs mightn't be as keen to drive forward.
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Post by dc84 on Jul 1, 2021 18:18:45 GMT
The problem with Paul Geaney at 12 might be the quality of his direct opponent. The Donegal lad McHugh would not be a good matchup for Paul, I think. Although with Kerry playing with the hand-brake off, all opposing half backs mightn't be as keen to drive forward. Certain teams will hold off, Ryan mchugh or poster from cork will not if we get to play them (Not sure is powter injured?) With not being at matches its impossible to know whether he is actually playing as a wf or not. It's the one head scratcher it doesn't look like PK is for turning on this. You would imagine Ryan comes in if fit and Morley would be a good option at 6,I'm not sure if we can start all of beaglaoich, Murphy, white ( even given he has improved physically) it looks too light to me
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Post by veteran on Jul 1, 2021 18:59:08 GMT
Management will probably revert to Shane Ryan and leave the rest alone barring injuries. For what its worth, I would relegate Gavin Crowley to the bench with either Mike Breen or Gavin White going to centre back and Morley/Paul Murphy coming into wing back; Killian Spillane is worthy of a start in place of Paul Geaney. I think Spillane may have found a super sub tag which can be impossible to shift. Sean Walsh shifted it! But then Sean was exceptional.
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Post by blacksheep21 on Jul 1, 2021 19:21:36 GMT
The problem with Paul Geaney at 12 might be the quality of his direct opponent. The Donegal lad McHugh would not be a good matchup for Paul, I think. Although with Kerry playing with the hand-brake off, all opposing half backs mightn't be as keen to drive forward. Certain teams will hold off, Ryan mchugh or poster from cork will not if we get to play them (Not sure is powter injured?) With not being at matches its impossible to know whether he is actually playing as a wf or not. It's the one head scratcher it doesn't look like PK is for turning on this. You would imagine Ryan comes in if fit and Morley would be a good option at 6,I'm not sure if we can start all of beaglaoich, Murphy, white ( even given he has improved physically) it looks too light to me I think the forwards are moving around a fair bit during games so the traditional way a team lines out is not really relevant. Geaney is moving between the lines depending on the game situation. Kerry are keeping at least 3 forwards up the pitch it seems to me but it won’t always be the same three. Other than David Clifford, the rest of the forwards are all expected to track back at different stages of the game.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 1, 2021 19:59:11 GMT
Who marks Clifford in training and how does their confidence fare with that?!
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 1, 2021 20:19:08 GMT
If we are to win the all ireland it will be down to our bench.
Bringing on Spillane or Brosnan when the game has opened up and legs are tired will be the difference.
They have a huge part to play.
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Post by tpo on Jul 1, 2021 20:50:55 GMT
It does'nt have be just 2,
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jul 1, 2021 21:37:30 GMT
Who marks Clifford in training and how does their confidence fare with that?! Which of our own gave him a fair hit in the warm-up Sat evening? Thank God it wasn't me at the receiving end there!
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 1, 2021 22:33:50 GMT
It does'nt have be just 2, Absolutely 💯 agree, Anyway I've a few glasses of red in me. Off to bed my wife is having our baby tomorrow and there is a Kerry Jersey in the hospital bag. Not a regular sight in Drogheda.
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Post by ballhopper34 on Jul 1, 2021 23:10:44 GMT
It does'nt have be just 2, Absolutely 💯 agree, Anyway I've a few glasses of red in me. Off to bed my wife is having our baby tomorrow and there is a Kerry Jersey in the hospital bag. Not a regular sight in Drogheda. Best wishes to all in Drogheda, especially herself and the new baba.
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Post by mossie on Jul 1, 2021 23:49:01 GMT
I think Spillane may have found a super sub tag which can be impossible to shift. Sean Walsh shifted it! But then Sean was exceptional. in fairness Sean was a super sub for 2 years at best, he was nailed down as a starter from 1978 Killian is around longer than 2 years , deserves a starting role in my view now
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jul 2, 2021 0:48:16 GMT
Sean Walsh shifted it! But then Sean was exceptional. in fairness Sean was a super sub for 2 years at best, he was nailed down as a starter from 1978 Killian is around longer than 2 years , deserves a starting role in my view now Are we talking about finishing up with the best 15 ala wan Blues Gavin? Selecting must be an amazing experience with 20+ at the same level - could turn out to be an amazing nightmare too ala PO'6 claiming there was only 6" between a clap on the back and a kick where the sun don't shine.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 2, 2021 6:58:33 GMT
Sean Walsh shifted it! But then Sean was exceptional. in fairness Sean was a super sub for 2 years at best, he was nailed down as a starter from 1978 Killian is around longer than 2 years , deserves a starting role in my view now I suppose if we flip that question around to say who will have the greater impact from the bench. Killian or Paul ? Not sure Paul would have the same energy coming off the bench. That will be the difference for me.
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Post by onlykerry on Jul 2, 2021 10:12:56 GMT
I appreciate to get the nod for a jersey in the 1 - 15 range is seen as being important but the reality of the modern game is the panel strength is what matters. No team starts and ends with the initial 15 and the ability to bring in influential replacements is often the winning of a game. Perhaps the reluctance of some management teams to respect the named starting 15 is a reflection of this as much as them engaging in gamesmanship. The management do not put them same emphasis as the fans on the starting 15 which needs to be announced days in advance for programme printing etc. In reality the GK is the only player that is not called ashore unless injured - a teams strength is most definitely the panel and the replacements available as the game progresses.
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Post by veteran on Jul 2, 2021 10:15:28 GMT
Royalkerryfan, congratulations on your new arrival, presumably the arrival has made her/his debut at this stage. What a head start to get , wearing a Kerry jersey on discharge from hospital.
A few years ago . a granddaughter of mine arrived on holiday from Madrid wearing a Real Madrid Jersey. Needless to say, her apparel was changed in short time to the more familiar colours . She was delighted with her more colourful attire but the father , Madrid born and reared , was a little peeved. Just letting him know, when in Kerry you do as Kerry do.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 2, 2021 20:23:47 GMT
Royalkerryfan, congratulations on your new arrival, presumably the arrival has made her/his debut at this stage. What a head start to get , wearing a Kerry jersey on discharge from hospital. A few years ago . a granddaughter of mine arrived on holiday from Madrid wearing a Real Madrid Jersey. Needless to say, her apparel was changed in short time to the more familiar colours . She was delighted with her more colourful attire but the father , Madrid born and reared , was a little peeved. Just letting him know, when in Kerry you do as Kerry do. Thank you Veteran, Yes a great day, I've no doubt a Meath Jersey will be requested at some stage but I'm not inflicting that on her now. Try give her the best start in life.
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Post by dc84 on Jul 2, 2021 21:46:03 GMT
Congrats Royal !
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 2, 2021 22:19:26 GMT
Thanks man, Appreciate that.
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Post by sullyschoice on Jul 2, 2021 23:18:33 GMT
Royalkerryfan, congratulations on your new arrival, presumably the arrival has made her/his debut at this stage. What a head start to get , wearing a Kerry jersey on discharge from hospital. A few years ago . a granddaughter of mine arrived on holiday from Madrid wearing a Real Madrid Jersey. Needless to say, her apparel was changed in short time to the more familiar colours . She was delighted with her more colourful attire but the father , Madrid born and reared , was a little peeved. Just letting him know, when in Kerry you do as Kerry do. Thank you Veteran, Yes a great day, I've no doubt a Meath Jersey will be requested at some stage but I'm not inflicting that on her now. Try give her the best start in life. Congrats. My eldest is a die hard Kerry supporter despite being born in the big smoke...as for my girls, thats another matter
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Post by colinsworth1 on Jul 3, 2021 0:05:13 GMT
Happy days ! Dad Mam and. All the clan
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Post by mike70 on Jul 6, 2021 10:23:35 GMT
As with the previous game, nothing less than a ten point victory expected here, Tipp a shadow of last years team, especially with no Riordan , for Kerry the game is about building on the solid performance from last game. I just fear we are not getting tested like we would want, but not much we can do about that, would hope we use the bench early ensuring we get championship game time into our subs bench, so hopefully aggressive use of the bench. Will we make any changes to starting line up, we usually don’t bar injuries, but you think we might try something else at CB, maybe a change in the forwards SOB out, maybe killian in, also need to give shane ryan some game time. No injuries important ahead of cork game, as much as cork have gone backwards, the kerry jersey will ignite some passion I am sure.
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Post by tpo on Jul 6, 2021 12:02:06 GMT
Regarding SOB out and Killian in, I have never seen Killian play as a half forward for Kerry can't see it happening this late into the year. As regards the CB, management may be happy with Clare performance, playing to instructions, no runs through the center.
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Post by peanuts on Jul 6, 2021 12:03:55 GMT
As with the previous game, nothing less than a ten point victory expected here, Tipp a shadow of last years team, especially with no Riordan , for Kerry the game is about building on the solid performance from last game. I just fear we are not getting tested like we would want, but not much we can do about that, would hope we use the bench early ensuring we get championship game time into our subs bench, so hopefully aggressive use of the bench. Will we make any changes to starting line up, we usually don’t bar injuries, but you think we might try something else at CB, maybe a change in the forwards SOB out, maybe killian in, also need to give shane ryan some game time. No injuries important ahead of cork game, as much as cork have gone backwards, the kerry jersey will ignite some passion I am sure. I hope we do see a few changes. I'd like to see Murphy, Morley, Shane Ryan and Jack Barry all start with a change or two in the forwards as well. It will keep lads on their toes without weakening the team.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Jul 6, 2021 14:42:03 GMT
I would like to see DOC get another run at midfield with Spillane or Barry. I think we get more out of him going forward when he doesnt have to act as a runner for Moran. We know what Moran can do at this stage.
Paul Murphy could come back in but as a whole I think the half back line has performed well. If he is to come back in it will most likely be at the expense of Mike Breen. Think we should try someone else in the half forward slot other than Geaney to see what difference it makes to the team. I cant see him being able to live with the Donegal or Dublin half backs in Croke Park so we should try someone else there. We know what he can do in the FF line.
I would like to see Fitzgibbon persisted with in goals. I know he had a poor spell against Clare but I feel he has a much quicker kickout which suits the game we are looking to play. Ryan or Fitzgibbon I amn't bothered as I think either will be relatively untroubled.
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Post by givehimaball on Jul 6, 2021 15:27:46 GMT
County Board haven't said anything about how many tickets they will get and how these will be distributed. I would be very disappointed in the county board if it ended up that any tickets were returned on Friday.
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Jul 6, 2021 15:40:19 GMT
County Board haven't said anything about how many tickets they will get and how these will be distributed. I would be very disappointed in the county board if it ended up that any tickets were returned on Friday. Off to annoy the club chairman. Wish me luck.
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Post by mike70 on Jul 6, 2021 17:12:24 GMT
Regarding SOB out and Killian in, I have never seen Killian play as a half forward for Kerry can't see it happening this late into the year. As regards the CB, management may be happy with Clare performance, playing to instructions, no runs through the center. did not think I needed to spell it out, for those in the know we would never be putting killian as a half forward, it’s more SOB out, our current named corner forward is a half forward, you can figure the rest.
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