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Post by tadgh10 on Sept 12, 2020 20:47:55 GMT
What an amazing game, after such a poor game last night, Michael burns so unlooky after an incredible performance to be on a losing team gavan Grady, Liam Carey pulled mid kerry over the line, mid kerry subs having a massive impact caolim teahan Cathal Moriarty and Beauforts Jack O'Connor with the winning score when mid kerry looked dead and buried 5 minutes earlier
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Sept 12, 2020 20:51:57 GMT
Michael Burns and Gavin O'Grady both were excellent. David Shaw too, especially considering he just came back from injury in a very high paced match. This was Kerry football at its best. Darran O'Sullivan carrying ball as if he was 21 as did Looney. You really wouldn't want Crokes to lose that game, but Mid Kerry definitely deserved to win that match after all the scores. What a contrast with other games we have seen this year. This was all that football should be and hopefully the final will be as good a game as this one was.
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Post by kerryexile on Sept 12, 2020 21:09:13 GMT
Brilliant game.
Tactics are always evolving. Mid Kerry kept most, if not all, of their substitutes until after the second water break. Crokes would not have the benefit of a chat with management after they took effect.
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Post by diego on Sept 12, 2020 22:35:13 GMT
Whatever about Peter Keane, one manager happy watching that would be John Evans.
The Glenbeigh lads especially Pa Kilkenny, Jack Brosnan and Gavan O'Grady playing some fantastic stuff. Darran showing a great appetite for the game as well and looks in great shape.
Gavin White must like the Mitchels end goal, very similar spectacular effort to the one he got in last year's final if memory serves me right.
Micheál Burns MOTM without question. Classic game, both teams playing superb open football.
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Post by diego on Sept 12, 2020 22:45:45 GMT
Should say the Beaufort manager would be happy as well to be fair, some contribution by their men.
Stream was uninterrupted tonight too so credit where it's due. Sound quality dropped in extra time but definitely value for money.
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Post by tadgh10 on Sept 12, 2020 22:58:03 GMT
Great credit where its due to kerry gaa for a great stream, and fair play to every player and management team this evening involved in this classic, what a tonic to enjoy in these troubled times
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Post by mossie on Sept 12, 2020 23:16:50 GMT
Super scoring, hurling type scoring really in terms of the score board
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 13, 2020 7:30:29 GMT
Mid Kerry shock Dr Crokes in epic Kerry SFC semi-final
Mid Kerry overturned a four-point extra-time deficit to book a surprise final spot against champions East Kerry Mid Kerry shock Dr Crokes in epic Kerry SFC semi-final
Gavan O’Grady – back to his best after a serious hamstring injury - poached a goal from nowhere on 77 minutes for Mid Kerry. File photo
SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 12, 2020 - 21:53 PM TONY LEEN, TRALEE
Kerry SFC semi-final: Mid Kerry 3-20 Dr Crokes 3-19 (AET)
This marathon Kerry SFC semi-final was a classic. It lurched this way and that before eventually going the way of the underdog - Mid Kerry overturning a four-point extra-time deficit to book a surprise final spot against champions East Kerry in two weeks.
Divisional sides aren’t meant to have team spirit in their locker, but Mid Kerry weren’t ready to fold, even when Gavin White goaled for Crokes in the second period of extra time. Crokes might look at their inability to close out the semi, but the lion’s share of the credit must go to Mid Kerry, who last won the senior championship in 2008.
Gavan O’Grady – back to his best after a serious hamstring injury - poached a goal from nowhere on 77 minutes before Beaufort’s Jack O’Connor – a Kerry minor All-Ireland winner in 2018 - stroked over the winner in the 79th minute of play. No-one who paid €10 to watch this cracker will be looking for a refund. More’s the pity that there was no-one at Austin Stack Park to witness this footballing exhibition.
Crokes will not use their missing attackers as an excuse, not when they had outstanding displays from the likes of Micheal Burns and Kieran O’Leary, who claimed a 62-minute equaliser to force extra time at 2-16 each.
Mid Kerry must have thought their moment had passed. Two goals in as many minutes early in the second half had propelled them into a 2-11 to 1-8 lead – Beaufort pair Ronan Murphy and Ciaran Kennedy with the strikes – but a sparkling ten minutes from Crokes had them back to parity by the 46th minute, their goal coming from sub Chris Doncel.
The two sides traded score for score in the last quarter with both attacks on fire. Neither could justifiably complain about the extra 20 minutes.
It seemed like Crokes had struck for the decisive blow in the second period of extra time with a goal straight out of the Crokes playbook – a super pass from man of the match Micheál Burns into Kieran O’Leary and finished with a perfectly timed run from Gavin White. That edged the Killarney men 3-19 to 2-18 in front.
However, a Carey free kept Mid Kerry in touch before O’Grady’s brilliant finish as he was falling. And there was still time for a winner from O’Connor.
Scorers for Mid Kerry: G O’Grady (1-8, 3 frees), L Carey (0-4, 1 free), R Murphy (1-1), C Kennedy (1-0), D Mangan, P Kilkenny, D Roche, F Clifford, C Moriarty, C Teahan, J O’Connor (0-1 each).
Scorers for Dr Crokes: M Burns (1-5), K O’Leary (0-5, 1 free), C Doncel (1-1), G White (1-1), B Looney, D Shaw (0-2 each), F Fitzgerald, J Buckley, M O’Shea (0-1 each).
MID KERRY: S Cahillane (Keel); J Brosnan (Glenbeigh-Glencar), P Wrenn (Milltown-Castlemaine), David Mangan (Laune Rangers); P. Crowley (Laune Rangers), M Breen (Beaufort), P Kilkenny (Glenbeigh-Glencar); C McGillycuddy (Glenbeigh-Glencar), R Murphy (Beaufort); D Roche (Milltown-Castlemaine), F Clifford (Laune Rangers), C Kennedy (Beaufort); G O’Grady (Glenbeigh-Glencar), L Carey (Beaufort), D. O’Sullivan (Glenbeigh-Glencar).
Subs: J O’Connor (Beaufort) for C Kennedy (50); C Moriarty (Milltoewn-Castlemaine) for Clifford (53); S O’Brien (Beaufort) for Roche (56); C Teahon (Glenbeigh Glencar) for D. O’Sullivan (64); K O’Sullivan (Cromane) for Wrenn (ET 3); G Horan (Milltown-Castlemaine) for Brosnan (half time ET); G Sayers (Keel) for D Mangan (ET 13)
DR CROKES: S Murphy; D Naughton, M Moloney, F Fitzgerald; D O’Leary, G White, M Potts; J Buckley, M O’Shea; C Fitzgerald, M Burns, B Looney; K O’Leary, G O’Shea, D Shaw.
Subs: C Doncel for G O’Shea (half time); J Payne for C Fitzgerald (41); C O’Regan for O’Leary (42); A O’Sullivan for Buckley (43); B Falvey for Potts (56); M Potts for Shaw (half time ET).
Referee: P Hayes (Kerins O’Rahillys).
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Post by 1955 on Sept 13, 2020 10:17:42 GMT
Just a quick question for the county board as regards attendees at the game last night. I have no problem with the county manager and his selectors being present because they might learn something but why was the east kerry manager allowed to attend this game
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Post by Galway breeze on Sept 13, 2020 10:31:45 GMT
Very valid point 1955, replayed the match and there was spectators around the pitch which should not have been inside the grounds.
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Post by buck02 on Sept 13, 2020 11:00:59 GMT
Just a quick question for the county board as regards attendees at the game last night. I have no problem with the county manager and his selectors being present because they might learn something but why was the east kerry manager allowed to attend this game Maybe he was on duty? I was travelling yesterday evening and heard most of it on the radio. I wonder can you still buy the stream of the game. Would love to watch it.
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Post by diego on Sept 13, 2020 11:19:27 GMT
Just a quick question for the county board as regards attendees at the game last night. I have no problem with the county manager and his selectors being present because they might learn something but why was the east kerry manager allowed to attend this game Maybe he was on duty? I was travelling yesterday evening and heard most of it on the radio. I wonder can you still buy the stream of the game. Would love to watch it. Should be able to get it still here... www.247.tv/gaa/Kerry
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Post by Kerryman 2 on Sept 13, 2020 12:04:57 GMT
When is the final
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Post by kerryeastcoastusa on Sept 13, 2020 12:56:53 GMT
Just watched a replay of the game Looking back David Mangan and Mike Breen very good for mid Kerry. Michael Burns was excellent all through and was just too lively for first Peter Crowley and then Pa Kilkenny. In general Peter seemed to be struggling with the pace of the game but still contributed quite well for mid Kerry. For crokes David Shaw was ok around the middle and Mark O Shea was a good target man at full forward so that switch probably did work But around the middle special mention must go to Ronan Murphy at midfield for mid Kerry - big presence and a good football brain to go with it. Up front Darren O Sullivan was very good as was Gavin OGrady even though he did register some wides that he may have been expected to get.
In terms of new interest to Peter Keane and co I think Mike Breen may be worth a look next year - seems to be a nice solid presence at no.6 with good ability on the ball - maybe pace could catch him at the top level but the final on Paudie Clifford would be a good test of that
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Post by southward on Sept 13, 2020 19:07:53 GMT
With today's relegation of Kilcummin following last year's drop for Rathmore, surely the County Board will have to look at the make up of the divisions going forward. Totally unbalanced at this stage.
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Post by mossie on Sept 13, 2020 19:25:03 GMT
With today's relegation of Kilcummin following last year's drop for Rathmore, surely the County Board will have to look at the make up of the divisions going forward. Totally unbalanced at this stage. jez yeah another club for East Kerry! I am not sure what can be done though. were kilgarvan and tousist the only clubs that hadnt a divisional outlet to play senior championship in 2020? I often felt Firies would be a good fit for St Kierans if there was an effort made to balance up the divisions
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Sept 13, 2020 19:27:46 GMT
With today's relegation of Kilcummin following last year's drop for Rathmore, surely the County Board will have to look at the make up of the divisions going forward. Totally unbalanced at this stage. jez yeah another club for East Kerry! I am not sure what can be done though. were kilgarvan and tousist the only clubs that hadnt a divisional outlet to play senior championship in 2020? I often felt Firies would be a good fit for St Kierans if there was an effort made to balance up the divisions EK is sometimes split at underage level into EK & Eoghan Ruadh so they could just do that
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Post by mossie on Sept 13, 2020 19:30:27 GMT
East Kerry havent done back to back yet, so maybe premature the talk to split them
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Post by southward on Sept 13, 2020 20:27:16 GMT
East Kerry havent done back to back yet, so maybe premature the talk to split them Whether or no, they will have acquired two further Div 1 clubs since emphatically winning the Co Championship last year. I make it nine clubs to pick from next year, five of them currently in the top two divisions. Then you look at what West Kerry have. Or Shannon Rangers. Or Kenmare District when they had a team. Nothing against EK by the way, love watching them play but we need the championship to remain competitive. Unfortunately it's starting to mirror the Dublin situation in terms of East Kerry's resources.
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Post by Premier on Sept 13, 2020 21:24:30 GMT
jez yeah another club for East Kerry! I am not sure what can be done though. were kilgarvan and tousist the only clubs that hadnt a divisional outlet to play senior championship in 2020? I often felt Firies would be a good fit for St Kierans if there was an effort made to balance up the divisions EK is sometimes split at underage level into EK & Eoghan Ruadh so they could just do that That seems to be the most logical decision Eoghan Ruadh:Kilcummin, Gneevguilla, Glenflesk, Rathmore East Kerry: Firies, Fossa, Spa, Listry They have a choice the about what to do with Kilgarven and Tousist
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Post by clarinman on Sept 13, 2020 21:39:01 GMT
EK is sometimes split at underage level into EK & Eoghan Ruadh so they could just do that That seems to be the most logical decision Eoghan Ruadh:Kilcummin, Gneevguilla, Glenflesk, Rathmore East Kerry: Firies, Fossa, Spa, Listry They have a choice the about what to do with Kilgarven and Tousist Let's not forget that before last year clubs had won 8 of the previous 9 titles.
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Post by sullyschoice on Sept 13, 2020 22:31:40 GMT
Best fiver I ever spent. Brilliant game
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Post by diego on Sept 13, 2020 23:19:24 GMT
East Kerry havent done back to back yet, so maybe premature the talk to split them Also worth noting that Spa could potentially be leaving as they are still involved in the Intermediate with a quarter final to come v Laune Rangers. Other quarters are An Ghaeltacht v Na Gaeil & Beaufort v Glenbeigh/Glencar. Castleisland Desmonds in to the last 4 after beating Dromid today. Spa players have played an important part in the East Kerry success in the last 12 months.
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Post by mossie on Sept 13, 2020 23:43:19 GMT
Correct Diego re Spa,lets see how it plays out.
south kerry won 3 in a row in the mid 2000s until feale rangers toppled them in a final.
I dont recall calls to split South Kerry
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 14, 2020 8:02:12 GMT
With games having to finish on the day now more games will go to extra time and its here that divisional sides have the edge as the subs are likely to be stronger.
The county board could easily curb this advantage to an extent by limiting the number of subs a divisional side can use to say 3 when playing against a club.
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Post by piggott on Sept 14, 2020 10:42:28 GMT
With today's relegation of Kilcummin following last year's drop for Rathmore, surely the County Board will have to look at the make up of the divisions going forward. Totally unbalanced at this stage. 2019 was East Kerry's first Bishop Moynihan since 1999. Only players from six clubs available to the team, Fossa, Listry, Firies, Spa, Gneeveguilla and Glenflesk. Agreed their minor team may need to be curtailed.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 14, 2020 11:12:45 GMT
Mid Kerry may have left it all on the pitch v Crokes and are unlikely to play as well again but going by the two semi finals MidKerry look to be more clinical and efficient upfront albeit DC will improve EK in that area in the final.
Where will the final be played.
Will there be a curtain raiser?
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Post by southward on Sept 14, 2020 11:41:47 GMT
Mid Kerry may have left it all on the pitch v Crokes and are unlikely to play as well again but going by the two semi finals MidKerry look to be more clinical and efficient upfront albeit DC will improve EK in that area in the final. Where will the final be played. Will there be a curtain raiser? Can't see any fixture yet. The hurling final is on next Sunday. I suppose no need for a curtain raiser seeing as there'll be no crowd.
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Post by greengold35 on Sept 14, 2020 12:24:04 GMT
With today's relegation of Kilcummin following last year's drop for Rathmore, surely the County Board will have to look at the make up of the divisions going forward. Totally unbalanced at this stage. jez yeah another club for East Kerry! I am not sure what can be done though. were kilgarvan and tousist the only clubs that hadnt a divisional outlet to play senior championship in 2020? I often felt Firies would be a good fit for St Kierans if there was an effort made to balance up the divisions I understood that Tousist & Kilgarvan were considered to be part of EK this year. Also, a review of the makeup of the county championship is scheduled for year end.
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Post by onlykerry on Sept 14, 2020 13:20:58 GMT
My undersanding is Divisional sides were designed to give every player in the county the chance of winning the county championship - it was aimed at giving players from smaller clubs in particular the opportunity of winning a county title. I think this is a great idea and should continue. The EK issue is more about the creation of a division with an unhealthy number of Division 1 & 2 sides which for me is problematic regardless of whether the division is winning the county championship or not. I am amazed that Rathmore, a club that fields a team in Division 1 and another in Division 5 is happy to be a bit player in an EK division made up of 8+ clubs. Per the program for the semi final only six Rathmore players were involved - this for a club with over 40 senior players will do little to maintain their numbers. I realise they lost their senior status and therefore their entitlement to play in the county championship as a club but to settle for a bit part in an oversized EK set up will do little for the club long term. Mossie asks why there was no call for South Kerry to be split when they were winning county championships and my answer would be that winning is not the issue, it is more about the accumulation of larger clubs into a single entity. The minor grade is an even more significant manifestation of the problem and represents very short sighted planning both by clubs and the county - its a disincentive for the players at so many levels.
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