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Post by goonised on May 8, 2020 17:59:00 GMT
The government with guidance from the best health professionals put out their timeline and said it's OK for GAA matches to take place from 20th of July and training in small groups with social distancing from May 18th. I personally don't agree with the GAA then saying no activity at all until 20th July which includes keeping pitches closed and this automatically pushes matches back a few weeks as well. I think the GAA are being overly cautious. If the government say it's OK to gradually resume activity, the GAA should only be too happy to oblige. It could be 3 years before a vaccine is widely available we can't stop everything for that long and is there going to be much difference in the situation between now and in a few months? You hardly think there will be a ball kicked in 2021 2020
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 9, 2020 7:56:23 GMT
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Post by An Bradán on May 10, 2020 9:19:34 GMT
This is from a submission from Premier League medical staff . The professional game will be able to afford to test their players and staff and isolate them if necessary. ( Can GAA clubs afford this ?) Professional players can be isolated in hotels and have access to the best medical care. (GAA club players will usually have access to a physio and in some cases maybe a doctor) Yet the medical professionals attached to the game have very serious concerns about returning to training never mind games.Anybody advocating a speedy return to action and to hell with the consequences on here doesn't care much for the safety of players and our communities.
This article is lifted from The Athletic.
"Club doctors have written to the Premier League seeking urgent answers and raising concerns surrounding the return of football.
In an email sent to the league’s medical advisor Mark Gillett and director of football Richard Garlick, the Premier League Doctors Group (PLDG) listed around 100 questions and issues over returning to training.
The communication, seen by The Athletic, is split into 10 subject areas and within each of them it warns of multiple COVID-19 concerns that the medics say have not been addressed, including:
Approving guidelines that still carry risk of death
Liability, insurance and testing for players, staff and their families
Possible transmission via sweat and goalkeeper gloves
Suspicions that some clubs are already ignoring guidelines
Increased risk for black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME) groups
Ability of emergency services to attend training ground incidents
Medics were invited to send their points anonymously to the PLDG on Sunday and these were collated before being forwarded to Gillett and Garlick on Monday.
Contingent on government approval, the Premier League’s Project Restart proposal targets a return to training in small groups on May 18 and competitive fixtures from June 12.
The doctors begin by requesting clarity on who is responsible for an updated health risk assessment procedure in light of the coronavirus pandemic, querying: “If it is the club, is it reasonable to expect such significant policy development and change in such a short time?”
Given there is evidence of disproportionate mortality and morbidity among certain communities, one bullet point reads: “Should we consider heightened susceptibility for BAME groups?”
Further attention focuses on liability and whether or not the doctors’ existing indemnity cover protects them when treating players, staff and members of their families and households.
They call for the Premier League to implement “a centralised education and consent process” and indications of discomfort are apparent throughout, for instance: “Lots of pressure on individual medical teams to reassure players and staff on something we are very uncertain about… is it fair to expect players and staff to agree with an operational policy related to an unknown virus?
“Do all the staff have to sign that they are happy with the COVID-19 protocol? Is this a disclaimer if anything happens to a player? Who is liable, the doctor or the Premier League?
“As doctors, how can we ‘approve’ guidelines that still carry risk of death?”
The advice issued last week forbids medical treatment and manual therapy from taking place at training grounds unless it is “essential”, and the doctors want the league to define “essential”.
“Medical staff will have regular close player contact,” they explain. “We cannot expect players not to require increased hands-on assessment and treatment following a long period of rest.”
The email goes on to state that an expectation for doctors to perform a physical examination prior to training is “non-essential and breaches professional guidelines” and it ponders what happens to a club and training programme if one of them is sick or self-isolating.
While acknowledging that the protocol provides detail on mitigating the risk of virus transmission through regular testing and social distancing at a training complex, the medics say it “fails to address” the risk outside that environment and the “contact pool” for players and staff.
Sharing a home with key workers and living with vulnerable groups, such as pregnant partners, draws particular concern and the doctors insist on families being part of the whole process.
They ask if unsubstantiated evidence linking the virus to premature birth in pregnancy and inflammatory syndrome in children can be dismissed and how it should be communicated to players. Again, the Premier League is urged to step forward on education and consent.
The medics identify the limited knowledge about airborne transmission as a potential problem when it comes to mitigating risk on the training pitch and when using rooms such as toilets, with a subsequent question posed in regard to bodily contact: “Can the virus be transmitted by sweat?”
Another point queries the veracity of reports that UV cleaning of pitches can destroy coronavirus and enquires about the type of disinfectant that might be used on the grass and balls.
“How long does the virus live on goalkeeper gloves? Do we need guidance on goalkeeper gloves related to cleaning/wiping? Should we advise goalkeepers to use medical gloves under goalkeeper gloves?”
It is claimed “no criteria-based progression from small group to full team training” exists yet, with a warning against relying on testing alone because “accuracy is variable and there will be a degree of risk of contracting the virus away from the training ground every time they leave”.
The effects of heavy exercise, training at pre-season intensity and playing two matches per week with “minimal” time available for recovery could result in “lowered immunity” and “increased risk of developing infection. Will this affect severity if infected (with COVID-19)?”
A 23-year-old midfielder at French club Montpellier — Junior Sambia, who was hospitalised with coronavirus — is given as an example of the condition not being limited to the elderly and those with co-morbidities.
Juventus forward Paulo Dybala reportedly returned four positive results in six weeks and this is also referenced by the doctors in a section of the communication that expresses worries on the complexity of testing and management thereafter, especially if the squad are back working as a larger group.
There are various considerations around resuming exercise post-infection, particularly in respect to cardiac effects — “Are some groups more susceptible? What is the risk of sudden death?” — and additional information is requested on the specialists who reviewed these specific protocols.
Logistics are a pressing concern: “Where will we source PPE, as there is a clear issue with supply chain? Many private hospitals are closed… second opinions and imaging cannot be accessed. Can we be sure they will be up and running by the time we are doing small group work? What is the call-out time if we have a problem on the training pitch? Do we have to use NHS care, which may not be satisfactory and poses risk of exposure to COVID-19 infection in A&E and hospital?”
Mental health is a high priority for the doctors, who say players and staff are “unsure and worried” about personal and family safety: “Have the Premier League considered the stress that will be put on (them) and support for this? Medical staff are likely to be one of the highest risk groups for COVID-19 as they will have multiple regular close contacts. Who is looking after their mental health?”
The email ends on discipline: “Rumours are plenty that some clubs are ignoring agreements amongst the PLDG without repercussions. It seems odd that risk taking for performance advantage in the current circumstances should be viewed within some clubs as good practice.”
They urge the Premier League to work with the League Managers Association to manage such behaviours and ensure coaches respect medical advice in the interest of player and staff welfare.
The medics say the league has circulated medical notes that differ vastly from dialogue within the PLDG and plead for consistent communication that does not contradict government guidance.
They finish by asking if rule breakers will be punished and what power they have in this area.
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Post by Mickmack on May 10, 2020 10:39:48 GMT
Updated / Saturday, 9 May 2020 06:00
By Fergal Bowers It is almost ten weeks since the coronavirus emergency erupted here, following confirmation of the first case of Covid-19 in Ireland.
Our world has changed in the most unexpected ways. Odd things are happening, in the midst of these strange times.
We have heard stories of clandestine meetings with underground hairdressers.
Employees putting on aftershave or perfume before Zoom meetings for work.
Adults that have developed new hobbies, like collecting acorns. Bizarre does not begin to describe it.
With the fine weather and the easing of advice for older people on cocooning, it's nice to see more people about. The battle against coronavirus is a cross-generational effort.
There was criticism by leading gerontologist Professor Des O'Neill that some things had gone too far in respect of our older citizens.
He was talking about the official advice that if people over 70 were taking short walks, that they should avoid all people and not stop and talk when exercising. He described this as overreach.
Older people are the citizens who helped build this State. They are a seasoned, sensible group, not children, and certainly not rash in decision making.
And as a group, they can be as fearsome as young people. Remember the now legendary protest in 2008 in Dublin outside the Dáil by the over-70s, when a previous government moved to take away medical cards from them?
It was notable this week that Chief Medical Officer Dr Tony Holohan remarked how those who had been cocooning had followed the advice well, perhaps better than some other groups. 'We are in this together’ must be more than a slogan if it’s to be a true collective effort.
Older people have also suffered. The nursing-home sector has experienced over 700 deaths among residents, over half of all the deaths so far during the emergency.
There have also been over 225 clusters in nursing homes, so it’s the sector with the most outbreaks. While the situation in nursing homes may have eased somewhat now, it remains serious.
When the time comes to officially review what occurred in nursing homes here, it will be important to examine the policies and records kept in relation to all deaths in these facilities.
If a decision was made in any cases not to refer a resident to hospital for care, that would have to be documented.
It would also need to have been discussed with the family, as consent is very relevant here.
The reason for this is because under these circumstances, a decision not to hospitalise a resident of a nursing home who is ill would be equivalent to a 'Do Not Attempt Resuscitation’ (DNAR) order – a document issued and signed by a doctor.
Clearly it’s a very serious area of practice and the spotlight will fall, in time, on how well protocols were followed.
Attention is also turning to when and how the normal day-to-day work of the health system can resume, for both hospitals and primary care.
People ask - where have all the heart attacks, strokes and other major illnesses gone? Of course, they have not disappeared and this is a huge worry.
The number of people attending emergency departments is beginning to rise but only very slowly.
Yesterday, there were just 33 patients waiting in emergency departments for admission to a bed.
There are several reasons why patients may have stayed away from hospitals, including fear, because some hospitals have a large number of confirmed, or suspected Covid-19 cases and why would someone go near such an environment?
People have been reassured that there are separate pathways for Covid-19 and non-Covid-19 patients in hospitals.
If you attend an emergency department now, the entrances should have separate ways in for these two distinct groups. Inside precautions are taken until staff can be assured of the health status of the patient and they are triaged accordingly.
It’s important to trust health professionals, the doctors, nurses and other health staff, who are putting their own lives and that of their families at risk too, to do what is a very challenging job, even in normal times.
Because Covid-19 is such a new illness, and the science is still developing around it, unintended mistakes may be made and events may occur that could not have been foreseen.
A report in the British Medical Journal in the past week detailed how there have been unexpected consequences from the coronavirus pandemic.
The skies are bluer, there are fewer car crashes, other infectious diseases are reducing, including hospital acquired infections, and the crime rate is falling.
However, doctors are alarmed at the drop off in ED attendances for major conditions.
There is also concern about a rise in alcohol and drug use at home, and people’s general mental health.
Some people may also have a poorer diet and a lack of exercise due to being cooped-up at home. The health and other impacts of the virus will be long and deep in society.
The future of our health system is also set to change, radically in some ways.
Hospitals will have to find a way to manage ongoing Covid-19 cases for the foreseeable future and also deal with non-Covid-19 care.
The patient and staff experience of the healthcare environment will be different from now on.
For as long as this virus poses a major threat, there can be no return to packed emergency departments, or busy outpatient departments, for obvious reasons.
This will result in stark organisational changes, which have yet to be figured out fully.
It will also likely result in longer waiting for consultations and new patient care streams. The environment will be very different for both patients and staff. GPs have already seen big changes in this regard, with telephone consultations, and patients being assessed in special rooms, or in their cars.
The first phase of the Government's reopening plan, 18 May, is coming soon.
Outdoor workers will return to work, and some outdoor retail and other services will resume, all subject to social distancing.
Small groups of people will be able to meet outdoors. But the overarching rule of ‘no unnecessary journeys’ will continue until 20 July. So the pace of change will remain slow and cautious.
Lots of individual sectors are looking to the National Public Health Emergency Team for direction.
Some are looking in the wrong direction. Dr Tony Holohan made it clear during the week that NPHET will not be prescribing rules on each sector of society.
He also said yesterday that he did not believe pubs would reopen in June. It will be up to various sectors to understand what the rules are as set out by Government and apply them, when the time is right.
Commonsense will be important here too. NPHET also emphasised that there will be all kinds of considerations to be taken into account by Government when it makes decisions and all these decisions will not be made on purely public health grounds.
While Ireland has followed lead advice from the World Health Organization, the European Centre for Disease Prevention & Control and others, it has also taken its own public health decisions.
The country has significant expertise. There are judgement calls to be made.
The rule here initially on people not undertaking a journey of beyond 2km, and recently extended to 5km, is not based on any published scientific paper per se, but on how health officials in Ireland have determined safety should be applied.
The overall approach here has been cautious and careful, especially in the early stages of the virus. The dividend is clear for all to see at this point – reducing deaths, new cases and the number of patients in intensive care units.
Many lives have already been saved and more can be protected too.
In the weeks and months ahead, the health system will need built-in capacity to deal with the virus threat in the future.
It must also have the capacity to return to managing planned cases and clinics and reducing overall waiting lists. Before the coronavirus really took hold here, there were over 770,600 patients on some kind of hospital waiting list and the end of March.
The system also has to return to full operation of the vital cancer and other screening programmes. Whatever changes come will probably involve a mix of using the public and private system in a new way.
The first wave of coronavirus has been largely been controlled here.
However, the personal price has been high. We have still seen over 1,400 deaths, almost 400 people in intensive care units and over 22,000 cases.
Families have been turned upside down, friends separated, relationships strained.
The sense of individual pain, anxiety and powerlessness will not be forgotten, for a long time to come. There is still a long road to travel and we will all need energy for it.
There remains much uncertainty, about the future progress of this virus, people’s employment prospects and how Irish society will cope, in the years ahead. We can only do this together, the task is so great.
There is a danger that we will experience further waves of Covid-19 and these could be mixed in with a flu outbreak during the winter to come, putting huge pressure on the health system.
So as we all survey the Irish social, economic and political landscape this weekend, our next decisions, individually and as a people, are critical.
Like moves in a game of chess. We must all think critically and be disciplined.
Chess is often called the game of life - there are short- and long-term plays, to stay alive. It has a special dynamic of threats and defences – a bit like what we are experiencing now.
But unlike chess, this is no game, and the stakes involved are the highest imaginable. One bad move and it could be fatal.
With Covid-19 as an opponent, we must be grandmasters in strategy.
View this article on rte.ie
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Post by Mickmack on May 10, 2020 10:49:06 GMT
Everyone knows that the economy must be awoken from the sleeping pill administered in March as the current situation is unsustainable on many fronts including the ability of the Government to fund it.
The procress of managing that is the priority now.
Fergal Bowers describes this as playing a game of chess with a pandemic that could come back with a vengence in winter.
In the light of all of that, i would have thought sport would be at the back of the queue in this game of chess.
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 11, 2020 0:06:57 GMT
I'd agree with what GAA President John Horan said on TSG that games will either be back with attendances or not at all, i.e. venues are either safe or not.
Re affordability, are we talking about money or life, and if some don't get it that the aged and people with long term illness are vulnerable, then think of the front line community - you can wake an economy.
If we know so little about the virus, are we prepared to take the chance that it won't come back 10 times worse next winter when lower temperatures make it more rampant? If this were to happen the world would go bankrupt.
I suppose we have to trust those making decisions though it looks like they made a right bags of education.
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Post by glengael on May 11, 2020 11:35:44 GMT
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Post by Galway breeze on May 12, 2020 15:38:34 GMT
Connors has pen pointed one of the main issues within the Gaa organisation, that is following every thing Rugby got wrong and now Rugby clubs are suffering. Time the Gaa pull back on the drive to professionalisms and mind the ethos that was. The GAA’s values are the heart and soul of our Association. In every club around the world they are what binds us, what makes us unique and what attracts more and more players, members, volunteers and supporters. Mission "The GAA is a community based volunteer organisation promoting Gaelic Games, culture and lifelong participation." The GAA is a volunteer organisation. We develop and promote Gaelic Games at the core of Irish identity and culture. We are dedicated to ensuring that our family of games, and the values we live, enrich the lives of our members, families and the communities we serve. We are committed to active lifelong participation for all and to providing the best facilities. We reach out to and include all members of our society. We promote individual development and well-being and strive to enable all of our members to achieve their full potential in their chosen roles. Vision Our vision is that everybody has the opportunity to be welcomed to take part in our games and culture, to participate fully, to grow and develop and to be inspired to keep a lifelong engagement with our Association. amp.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/noel-connors-the-gaa-must-never-become-like-any-other-organisation-999081.html
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 12, 2020 19:36:57 GMT
Connors has pen pointed one of the main issues within the Gaa organisation, that is following every thing Rugby got wrong and now Rugby clubs are suffering. Time the Gaa pull back on the drive to professionalisms and mind the ethos that was. The GAA’s values are the heart and soul of our Association. In every club around the world they are what binds us, what makes us unique and what attracts more and more players, members, volunteers and supporters. Mission "The GAA is a community based volunteer organisation promoting Gaelic Games, culture and lifelong participation." The GAA is a volunteer organisation. We develop and promote Gaelic Games at the core of Irish identity and culture. We are dedicated to ensuring that our family of games, and the values we live, enrich the lives of our members, families and the communities we serve. We are committed to active lifelong participation for all and to providing the best facilities. We reach out to and include all members of our society. We promote individual development and well-being and strive to enable all of our members to achieve their full potential in their chosen roles. Vision Our vision is that everybody has the opportunity to be welcomed to take part in our games and culture, to participate fully, to grow and develop and to be inspired to keep a lifelong engagement with our Association. amp.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/noel-connors-the-gaa-must-never-become-like-any-other-organisation-999081.htmlYour contention is probably more right than you realise but much as I don't like saying it, that doesn't mean it will prevail, what with the increasing standard, hence increasing demands on Intercounty players. And if you pay them then where do you draw the line? Rural depopulation is rapid and while this virus might stimulate remote working I'm not so sure it will save rural clubs. This is one of my pet subjects and |I have an insight for other reasons - I have come by some interesting stuff down the years - one article I have mentioned here previously was in a supplement with 'The Economist' of all publications. They didn't know GAA hence couldn't imagine what community sport could attain, they still got the right answer, i.e. that there is a trade-off between money and spirit - experts can spice 'n' sauce it up but that what it boils down to. Interestingly what flew over their heads was the comparative motivation of golfers playing for money or country, as in The Ryder Cup. They didn't even nail Yorkshire Cricket from what I can recall and which also has an ethnic angle. All the sensible commentators agree that the world will be a somewhat different place post-virus, whenever that will be. And how it will be different, well God willing we are still be around we will only have to wait and see. The one thing the GAA has are the world's best games, more and better physics to it, and that was even before my northern commados started to experiment with us poor feebles. And then there is the ball work, that flick in hurling without handling the sliotar, fielding (without being lifted), block-downs, Adrian Spillane's goal, Canavan/Mugsie one two, Mugsie's goal vs Dubs, Cassidy's point vs Kildare, Donaghy saving a a point vs Mayo in Limerick, Mickey Sheehy's goal a la Con Houlihan's fire station on fire - and the there was a goal I scored that brought the Tommy Markam cup to Ballydonoghue - jazus I slipped that in nicely, pun intended or not? Yerra John B was always blowing about a point he got against Duagh for a NK final so I couldn't let him off with it, now I'm not boasting, just standing up for noble myself seeing as nobody else ever mentioned it, ah I shed a tear, a goal it was, a goal, would have rose the green flag only there was no umpire and I couldn't do everything, I arrived and then there was 15 and so the path of history would take a turn! Slightly off point, or not, and thank God says you, but I heard an ex county player of old lately saying that he now struggles to read the game, anticipate what will happen next, etc, so the game is evolving, but strange enough what he says as he'd be a noteworthy soccer man too. Now I can read and anticipate, but maybe his bar is higher? We were discussing it at Dgal vs Galway in the League, canny fellas couldn't figure out how either team was set up to launch attacks, then they nail beauts of scores, so they must be doing something right. Ah when we are back in business we might chat a biteen more during games and explore this nonsense further. Some spectators can be awesome, sat with a pair of Monaghan men in Clones the day of Donaghy/Geaney goal - a day hasn't passed since that I haven't smiled to myself thought of them, they could have been twins the way they fed off each other, class, if only we could bottle it! Stay safe folks!
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Post by sandradee on May 13, 2020 23:24:00 GMT
Seeing that this is a GAA Forum it is imperative that all county players, club players along with supporters watch the following video, numerous times if need be. Investigative Journalism at it's very best, so unlike the lazy attempt being portrayed by international, national and local media. Calling it lazy is being kind, other more appropriate words readily come to mind.
Here you will find “ultra integrity, transparency and high quality science”. This should end all speculation about this COVID-19.
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Post by keane on May 14, 2020 0:17:40 GMT
The above is from the Irish Freedom Party to save anyone else wasting a click.
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Post by sandradee on May 14, 2020 1:49:08 GMT
The above is from the Irish Freedom Party to save anyone else wasting a click.
The video has nothing to do with the Irish Freedom Party, never even knew such a party existed. it has everything to do with the hard science behind COVID-19. How to avoid contacting it along with how to cure oneself if infected. Those that do not watch the complete video are doing themselves, their families and future generations a massive disservice. Please do not heed a person that hardly even watch one minute of content proven by the time stamp of his post.
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Post by Galway breeze on May 14, 2020 8:50:58 GMT
Integrity, really! take Vitamins D&C and those that die is not a problem, and the issue is solved. Irish Freedom Party and stock images all over this video. Obviously these people have not had a close family member die from COVID-19.
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Post by sullyschoice on May 14, 2020 11:46:47 GMT
The above is from the Irish Freedom Party to save anyone else wasting a click. The video has nothing to do with the Irish Freedom Party, never even knew such a party existed. it has everything to do with the hard science behind COVID-19. How to avoid contacting it along with how to cure oneself if infected. Those that do not watch the complete video are doing themselves, their families and future generations a massive disservice. Please do not heed a person that hardly even watch one minute of content proven by the time stamp of his post.
She is in the Irish Freedom Party along with Ben Gilroy. Google his election video...the one with him and his Hurl. Gemma O Doherty and John Waters are journalists and have educational qualifications. They are still headcase. Dangerous headaches. This is dangerous Ton Foil hat nonsense being pedalled by the usual Anti Vaccination crackpots. So go and take your vitamin c & d, but dont come crying when your lived ones die. I take my advice from credible medical professionals. Not Grassy Knoll theorists.
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Post by sandradee on May 14, 2020 13:45:59 GMT
The video has nothing to do with the Irish Freedom Party, never even knew such a party existed. it has everything to do with the hard science behind COVID-19. How to avoid contacting it along with how to cure oneself if infected. Those that do not watch the complete video are doing themselves, their families and future generations a massive disservice. Please do not heed a person that hardly even watch one minute of content proven by the time stamp of his post.
She is in the Irish Freedom Party along with Ben Gilroy. Google his election video...the one with him and his Hurl. Gemma O Doherty and John Waters are journalists and have educational qualifications. They are still headcase. Dangerous headaches. This is dangerous Ton Foil hat nonsense being pedalled by the usual Anti Vaccination crackpots. So go and take your vitamin c & d, but dont come crying when your lived ones die. I take my advice from credible medical professionals. Not Grassy Knoll theorists. What is a Ton Foil hat? Obviously you too did not watch the video as Professor Delores Cahill stated numerous times that she is for safe vaccines, therefore she is not an anti-vaxxer nor is this an anti-vaxxer video as you are dong your best to convey. No disinformation please, stick with the facts.
Be my guest take your unsafe vaccines, your choice, while respecting my choice not to do so.
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Post by sullyschoice on May 14, 2020 14:33:57 GMT
I dont respect your right regarding vaccines. We would all be dead if we didnt have our vaccines.
Take your rubbish elsewhere.
If that doctor is associated with the likes of Ben Gilroy she isnt worth listening to.
Go to one of their cock eyed sites and stop polluting this GAA site with that crap.
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Post by sandradee on May 14, 2020 18:45:20 GMT
I dont respect your right regarding vaccines. We would all be dead if we didnt have our vaccines. Take your rubbish elsewhere. If that doctor is associated with the likes of Ben Gilroy she isnt worth listening to. Go to one of their cock eyed sites and stop polluting this GAA site with that crap. I would gather you expended all your very limited knowledge on that response and your chest must have expanded a few inches with the few claps on the back you received. An extremely inarticulate response which is typical of followers not leaders. Not surprising as when opinions do not fit in your little box you have a tendency to lash out as you did with Dermot, a very welcome, articulate and humorous member of this board, at least when it comes to football. My posts are not intended for people like you, they are intended for open minded individuals who are willing to learn, grasp the fullness of life and not fall for everything they are spoon fed. As your name indicates it is only your choice that matters and you truly, by your own words, have no respect for others with different opinions. Sir, I bid you adieu
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Post by john4 on May 14, 2020 18:51:07 GMT
Sandradee, get out of here, your posts have nothing to do with the GAA
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Post by sandradee on May 14, 2020 18:58:08 GMT
Sandradee, get out of here, your posts have nothing to do with the GAA You must be asleep at the wheel, the COVID-19 has everything to do with the GAA. Have you not noticed GAA games throughout the country have been suspended because of it?
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Post by himself on May 14, 2020 20:17:59 GMT
I haven't always agreed with sullyschoice, but I've always respected his opinion. In this case I am with him all the way. Could the silly troll go practise makey-uppy pseudo-science in a sad attempt to bolster their understandably low self-esteem somewhere else?
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Post by sandradee on May 14, 2020 20:59:16 GMT
I haven't always agreed with sullyschoice, but I've always respected his opinion. In this case I am with him all the way. Could the silly troll go practise makey-uppy pseudo-science in a sad attempt to bolster their understandably low self-esteem somewhere else? I have the courage of my convictions, people with low self-esteem run with the herd.
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Post by sullyschoice on May 14, 2020 22:22:43 GMT
I dont respect your right regarding vaccines. We would all be dead if we didnt have our vaccines. Take your rubbish elsewhere. If that doctor is associated with the likes of Ben Gilroy she isnt worth listening to. Go to one of their cock eyed sites and stop polluting this GAA site with that crap. I would gather you expended all your very limited knowledge on that response and your chest must have expanded a few inches with the few claps on the back you received. An extremely inarticulate response which is typical of followers not leaders. Not surprising as when opinions do not fit in your little box you have a tendency to lash out as you did with Dermot, a very welcome, articulate and humorous member of this board, at least when it comes to football. My posts are not intended for people like you, they are intended for open minded individuals who are willing to learn, grasp the fullness of life and not fall for everything they are spoon fed. As your name indicates it is only your choice that matters and you truly, by your own words, have no respect for others with different opinions. Sir, I bid you adieu Mmm. dermot hasnt posted here for quite a long time, then a new poster emerges spouting crap and mentions my previous interactions. I wonder has Dermot been re-incarnated. I wouldnt be a bit surprised... only this time there are less emojies.. Whether you are Dermot Nua or not, take your Tinfoil hat crap elsewhere.
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Post by goonised on May 15, 2020 7:10:21 GMT
I did say a few pages back , this thread is deteriorating rapidly.
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 15, 2020 11:57:33 GMT
Introducing a 1 hour video is suspicious, well apart from a match, and then we are to watch it many times over - brainwash? I am a stickler for calling wrongs out but this is giving rebellion a bad name. Anyway this is not a medical forum so I'd be thinking if someone has a point to make then lets hear the summary version and take it from there.
Maybe such nonsense is best ignored and I don't like seeing respected members get upset.
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Post by Galway breeze on May 15, 2020 12:17:13 GMT
Ok, let’s put any rubbish aside. Looking forward and asking what will the Gaa organisation want to take from this year into 2021. Will it be the same drive to become a professional outfit or has this years experience installed new learning and they be more mindful of the clubs, volunteers, and coaches around the country. IMO I would hope for counties to pull back on spending so much finance to maintain the county teams (physio, coaches, S&C, Nutritionists, analysts) and put more resources into the local clubs instead. Now don’t get me wrong we need a certain amount of investment but in my opinion it has gone way out of control.
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Post by sandradee on May 15, 2020 18:53:27 GMT
First off I will start with a brief summary as a wannabee poet and world renowned famous goal scorer🏆 has insisted. As with many crime scenes we will need to follow the money, those that fund the operation, those who stands to gain and those that will lose out. In this case losing out is not just financially, in fact there are far far greater implications. Meet Polly, a lady from Canada, far outside the reaches of that notorious Irish Freedom Party, who expertly lays the ground work with meticulous accuracy and documented proof that even Sherlock Holmes himself would be in awe of. In her own words nothing but “booms”. From the well known big corporations uniquely intertwined, to their parroting gamekeepers you will be intrigued from start to finish like no fictional novel could ever achieve. Take a step into the world of in-your-face reality. As the saying goes “the best place to hide something is in plain sight” WARNING: If you are set in your ways, closed minded and in no way interested in seeing David Clifford, Seanie O'Shea and Cathal McShane 😎mesmerize their audience throughout the green gaelic fields of Eire this summer please do not click on the link. Kindly move on.
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Post by rollingstone on May 15, 2020 19:57:59 GMT
Integrity, really! take Vitamins D&C and those that die is not a problem, and the issue is solved. Irish Freedom Party and stock images all over this video. Obviously these people have not had a close family member die from COVID-19. And neither have 99.97% of the population, that is the point. All sense of perspective has been lost following a deluge of govt. and media scaremongering of biblical proportions. The reality continually overlooked is that those people that do not have a serious pre-existing condition, whether young or elderly, will not contract COVID-19 let alone die from it. That is the same for any other illness out there "going around" like flu yet perfectly healthy people were not locked down as we are now. To provide some further context to the numbers, I broke my own self imposed ban on reading the papers and read the Irish Independent online this week after being told by my neighbour that Varadkar had been quite positive on the radio about the next phase of the ongoing mass house arrest. I couldn’t find anything on that but I came across the latest stats from the Dept. of Health on COVID-19. Buried very far down the page was the following information related to COVID-19 deaths: 40.5% had chronic heart disease; 16.5% had chronic respiratory disease; 12.8% had cancer. That is almost 71% of all cases. That is before you get to chronic obesity, diabetes and every other serious condition not mentioned in that list, not to mention any mental health related issues and old age factored in as well. The point is that GAA players do not fall into these categories (aside potentially from mental health) and should be able to train and play away and the rest of the population should be able to get on with life without any further delay. On the discussion on the video, I do not see what her party affiliation has to do with the points made in the video. Whilst I don’t agree with everything she says, she makes many valid points. Vitamin C and D are well known to assist with an individual’s immune system, anyone with the most basic knowledge of medicine can tell you that, therefore getting more into you is a good thing. It is also quicker and healthier than waiting for a rushed out vaccine "unicorn" that has not been properly tested and for which manufacturers are indemnified from any liability.
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Post by sandradee on May 15, 2020 20:58:43 GMT
At least one good thing has come out of all this. I got the "poet" and the explorer kissing and making up.
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