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Post by oldschool on Aug 8, 2019 11:43:09 GMT
Kickouts are vital in this game, we need to get possession into players with space, or else we'll get swarmed in the tackle. Like wise going forward we can't let them choke our players on the ball so we have to move it quick and be patient. Maurice Deegan was the referee in 2015 like he is on Sunday so maybe that's a good omen, he isn't the worst ref on the referee's panel. Yes. Very much so. Kickouts at BOTH ends. We can do it. I don't think I would like like to see Sean Ó Sé traeated as he was against Donegal and then to get a yellow card.
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Post by oldschool on Aug 8, 2019 11:45:48 GMT
Kickouts are vital in this game, we need to get possession into players with space, or else we'll get swarmed in the tackle. Like wise going forward we can't let them choke our players on the ball so we have to move it quick and be patient. Maurice Deegan was the referee in 2015 like he is on Sunday so maybe that's a good omen, he isn't the worst ref on the referee's panel. Yes. Kickouts at BOTH ends. God knows we're long enough watching Cluxton by now to know how important this is.
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Post by onlykerry on Aug 8, 2019 11:49:35 GMT
Yes, when you put it like that it’s a bit mad alright, you’d imagine if Kerry played played Mayo & Donegal in Killarney we’d have had 2 home wins and could play the B team away to Meath, have 2 weeks rest before the Semi which is in Killarney as well, win that and guess what we have the final again in Killarney. I wonder how many in a row we would have at this stage 🤫 Well you won 4 in a row playing about 15 games! Took Dublin about 28 so swings and roundabouts yeh!!! How many miles did Kerry have to travel to win their four in a row compared to Dublin? Of the 15 games Kerry played only 4 were in Kerry with 11 outside - 73% away. Dublin had had 22 of their 27 (I think) games in Croke Park - 18.5% away. Home advantage is always believed to be worth 3-4 points to a team - Dublin had 6 games (5 at home) with a winning margin of 3 or less.
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Post by onlykerry on Aug 8, 2019 11:58:21 GMT
Just watching reeling in the years on RTE. 1982. How fitting Didn't we beat Offaly the year before handy? They came back the following year and broke our hearts. Points to a THRONE win? I hope I'm made look like an eegit Sunday. (Or even Saturday)💚🤣💛 in my memory we beat Offaly in 1980 semi-final, high scoring shoot out, Matt Connor scored 2-9. We beat them again in 81 Final, not handy at all. My memory is it took Jacko's goal to tip the scales. Offaly's progress was gradual but progress it was and they finally made it the following year. To present times, I see it is more than likely to be wet in Dublin on Sunday. I wonder who that will suit best. I presume the team will be announced tomorrow night as usual. Offalys progress was indeed gradual but relentless all the same While Kerry were wiinning their four in a row from 78 to 81, Offaly lost the Leinster SF to Dublin by 3 points in 78, lost the Leinster Final to Dublin by 2 in 79, Finally won leinster in 80, beating Dublin in the final by 2 before losing the AI SF to Kerry by 5 (4-15 to 4-10). They made the final in 81, losing by 7 to Kerry before breaking our hearts in 82 with their infamous win. In 1983 they lost the Leinster Final to Dublin.
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Post by oldschool on Aug 8, 2019 12:20:49 GMT
Has the referee for the final been picked yet.? Hope I'm not getting ahead of myself.
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Post by fitz on Aug 8, 2019 12:25:27 GMT
the current Tyrone team are very clean. I’d tend to agree, not that I doubt for one minute though that Clifford and Seánie will get attention. In truth all possible opponents would do likewise. Let’s see anyway
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Post by onlykerry on Aug 8, 2019 13:30:31 GMT
the current Tyrone team are very clean. I’d tend to agree, not that I doubt for one minute though that Clifford and Seánie will get attention. In truth all possible opponents would do likewise. Let’s see anyway Are ye being serious - Tyrone have a history of hard men that will take whatever steps they feel are necesary to win a game and this is particularly focussed at prevention rather than by skill. Tiernan Mc Cann exhibited this trait already this summer. Its a pity as it distracts from the quality that they can produce when they dispense with the "fear of losing" and actually play skillful football.
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Post by skybluezone on Aug 8, 2019 13:38:35 GMT
Well you won 4 in a row playing about 15 games! Took Dublin about 28 so swings and roundabouts yeh!!! How many miles did Kerry have to travel to win their four in a row compared to Dublin? Of the 15 games Kerry played only 4 were in Kerry with 11 outside - 73% away. Dublin had had 22 of their 27 (I think) games in Croke Park - 18.5% away.
Home advantage is always believed to be worth 3-4 points to a team - Dublin had 6 games (5 at home) with a winning margin of 3 or less. Listen, I said it tongue in cheek, that's what the exclamation marks were for. And I certainly didn't get into counting the miles. I think both four in a rows were huge achievements, but you seem to think Kerry's was harder won. Fair enough, you're entitled to your views. We're all gods children. Can I assume that the late 70s and early 80's was the time when Kerry viewed Croke Park as their 2nd home??? And if that was the case how does that impact the mileage claims???
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Post by kerryexile on Aug 8, 2019 14:22:55 GMT
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Post by dc84 on Aug 8, 2019 14:27:36 GMT
How many miles did Kerry have to travel to win their four in a row compared to Dublin? Of the 15 games Kerry played only 4 were in Kerry with 11 outside - 73% away. Dublin had had 22 of their 27 (I think) games in Croke Park - 18.5% away.
Home advantage is always believed to be worth 3-4 points to a team - Dublin had 6 games (5 at home) with a winning margin of 3 or less. Listen, I said it tongue in cheek, that's what the exclamation marks were for. And I certainly didn't get into counting the miles. I think both four in a rows were huge achievements, but you seem to think Kerry's was harder won. Fair enough, you're entitled to your views. We're all gods children. Can I assume that the late 70s and early 80's was the time when Kerry viewed Croke Park as their 2nd home??? And if that was the case how does that impact the mileage claims??? We will have to ask Ivor calleally on the mileage! Not really getting into this as I think it's impossible to judge games/teams 40 yrs apart but number of games is a misnomer does playing offally, Louth Wicklow etc count really? No more than every team outside of cork in Munster. Kerry usually played 2/3 games against good opposition that time cork , and then Leinster winners roscommon in a few much the same as dublin last 4 yrs can't really count any Leinster county. 2 great teams anyway who just fell short of 5 in a row.....
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Post by royalkerryfan on Aug 8, 2019 15:01:44 GMT
the current Tyrone team are very clean. I’d tend to agree, not that I doubt for one minute though that Clifford and Seánie will get attention. In truth all possible opponents would do likewise. Let’s see anyway How long did McCann serve for eye gouging against Donegal? Tyrone are Tyrone.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 8, 2019 15:03:40 GMT
SKB ...are you not even slightly embarrassed
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 8, 2019 15:28:06 GMT
SKB ...are you not even slightly embarrassed You have recently put the onus on referees and Dublin fans for errors that not they but the GAA have made.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 8, 2019 15:38:02 GMT
SKB ...are you not even slightly embarrassed You have recently put the onus on referees and Dublin fans for errors that not they but the GAA have made. I am making the assumption that Skybluezone is John Horan, President of the GAA. Is it not blindingly obvious!
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 8, 2019 15:47:32 GMT
You have recently put the onus on referees and Dublin fans for errors that not they but the GAA have made. I am making the assumption that Skybluezone is John Horan, President of the GAA. Is it not blindingly obvious! 😂😂😂😂 Dublin John. The only man who would have me in agreement with you!😂😂
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Post by ballhopper34 on Aug 8, 2019 15:48:58 GMT
Huge task on Sunday. It will a giant leap for Kerrykind to make it to the final. Tyrone are probably more "seasoned" than Kerry at this stage, so how our lads watch and react are crucial. If they have to stop and think, especially regarding positioning for, and taking of, our kickouts it could spell trouble. Have good spacing at the back to get possession, as well as being properly placed to cut of those runners coming down the middle (preferably have them tackled out the field where Tyrone must kick rather than carry)
On the other hand, early scores bring confidence in abundance. If we get two goals in the first half we will be in good shape - but we have scored two goals in one championship game this year (Meath), let alone two in one half.
So...Goals win Games, Defense wins Championships.
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Post by skybluezone on Aug 8, 2019 17:18:05 GMT
SKB ...are you not even slightly embarrassed No. Why would I, a mere supporter, be embarrassed?
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Post by diego on Aug 8, 2019 17:19:55 GMT
Queues have gone, and some decent tickets available in last half hour on www.tickets.ie for anyone looking. Saw ones coming up for Lower Hogan blocks 330 and 332.
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 8, 2019 17:34:07 GMT
How many miles did Kerry have to travel to win their four in a row compared to Dublin? Of the 15 games Kerry played only 4 were in Kerry with 11 outside - 73% away. Dublin had had 22 of their 27 (I think) games in Croke Park - 18.5% away.
Home advantage is always believed to be worth 3-4 points to a team - Dublin had 6 games (5 at home) with a winning margin of 3 or less. Listen, I said it tongue in cheek, that's what the exclamation marks were for. And I certainly didn't get into counting the miles. I think both four in a rows were huge achievements, but you seem to think Kerry's was harder won. Fair enough, you're entitled to your views. We're all gods children. Can I assume that the late 70s and early 80's was the time when Kerry viewed Croke Park as their 2nd home??? And if that was the case how does that impact the mileage claims??? Second home generally refers to holiday home versus permanent residency such as the Dubs in Dubs Park.
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Post by Fado on Aug 8, 2019 17:39:44 GMT
Please keep the thread on topic!
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Post by The16thMan on Aug 8, 2019 17:55:01 GMT
Queues have gone, and some decent tickets available in last half hour on www.tickets.ie for anyone looking. Saw ones coming up for Lower Hogan blocks 330 and 332. Dublin v Mayo tickets back on sale as well, I noticed that there was restricted view seats fro the upper Hogan and Davin stands, has anyone come across restricted view seats cause I know I haven't 🤔
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Post by john4 on Aug 8, 2019 18:07:33 GMT
Will we have a list of names this evening loosely associated with a Kerry lineup for Sunday? 😀
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Post by greengold35 on Aug 8, 2019 18:18:13 GMT
Queues have gone, and some decent tickets available in last half hour on www.tickets.ie for anyone looking. Saw ones coming up for Lower Hogan blocks 330 and 332. Dublin v Mayo tickets back on sale as well, I noticed that there was restricted view seats fro the upper Hogan and Davin stands, has anyone come across restricted view seats cause I know I haven't 🤔 They are basically in the corners where stands meet - I had a seat a few years back in the Cusack/Davin intersection - poor view, tickets should be priced accordingly.
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 8, 2019 18:25:09 GMT
Dublin v Mayo tickets back on sale as well, I noticed that there was restricted view seats fro the upper Hogan and Davin stands, has anyone come across restricted view seats cause I know I haven't 🤔 They are basically in the corners where stands meet - I had a seat a few years back in the Cusack/Davin intersection - poor view, tickets should be priced accordingly. The upper tier where the stands meet are very good places to watch games from.
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Post by The16thMan on Aug 8, 2019 18:35:49 GMT
They are basically in the corners where stands meet - I had a seat a few years back in the Cusack/Davin intersection - poor view, tickets should be priced accordingly. The upper tier where the stands meet are very good places to watch games from. Would it be possible that it would be the big screen in the corner that would be restricting the view I wonder 🤔
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Post by dart on Aug 8, 2019 18:52:47 GMT
At the very back of the lower tiers the upper level is down in front of you, so you can't see the top of the posts and lose the flight of the ball when high in the air.
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Post by kerryboy83 on Aug 8, 2019 19:29:32 GMT
Is the upper tier opened Sunday
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Post by Kingdomson on Aug 8, 2019 19:41:02 GMT
I’d tend to agree, not that I doubt for one minute though that Clifford and Seánie will get attention. In truth all possible opponents would do likewise. Let’s see anyway Are ye being serious - Tyrone have a history of hard men that will take whatever steps they feel are necesary to win a game and this is particularly focussed at prevention rather than by skill. Tiernan Mc Cann exhibited this trait already this summer. Its a pity as it distracts from the quality that they can produce when they dispense with the "fear of losing" and actually play skillful football. I was about to say in the words of John McEnroe but you got there first! It's all about opinions but claiming Tyrone are clean is just a plain wrong one! Nial Morgan was quite a bold boy when he broke Paddy Andrew's jaw with a brutal shoulder and left the man badly concussed just this past league season. Tyrone have a hard edge in their football culture at all levels. I was not going to bother arguing back but claims Tyrone are clean is frankly ridiculous. Those claiming Tyrone clean aren’t paying much attention even if they claim to watch them in my view. The Tyrone minors targeted Kerry players in their recent encounter – fact - despite people on here claiming they were clean - check with Dylan Geaney! Punches to kidneys, knees down on top of him – give me a break! Dear God, just look at the meaningless 'Coma in Omagh' game last Sunday and how Tyrone tried to decapitate Bernard Brogan once he got crunched in a 3 man tackle. The perception is Kerry can be physically got at in this game and Tyrone are going to test that theory to the max by fair means and foul. Sean Cavanagh was telling all and sundry the same in the Irish Star (headline - Red Hand will be too physical for Kerry's young guns) that Tyrone will blow Kerry away with their physical power and his not the only Tyrone pundit claiming Tyrone's physical power will be too much (not much mention of football ) . Tyrone want to bring manic aggression like 2003 and the impression is Kerry wil not be able or ready for it. We shall see.
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Post by john4 on Aug 8, 2019 20:04:13 GMT
Playing Gavin White as a half forward is an experiment that hasn't worked out well imo, he's got 2 black cards playing there in recent weeks. When he does find himself near goal he's reluctant to have a go. He seems more comfortable closer to our own goal.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2019 20:04:32 GMT
Tyrone see this as a callow Kerry team that they can overpower. They will aim to do this both legally and also illegally at times.
Kerry will need to match this intensity but also maintain composure and not kick ball away and maintain discipline defensively.
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