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Post by An Ciarraíoch Taistealaíoch on Feb 5, 2021 23:45:57 GMT
Bally, don't knock it until you try it is a legitimate arguement but you are blinded by your club loyalty. I have noticed this about your comments here before. There are a number of my clubmates "inside" currently, I personally feel that one is getting more match time than he deserves and another should be getting more. I am basing this on that I have seen of them playing for club and county. Can you honestly say that Foley at CHF would be a better link option than Seanie Shea/Paul Geaney/Michael Burns/Dara Moynihan? Of the backs I would consider that Gavin Crowley and Gavin White would be better link options From memory Paul Murphy was tried out in the half forward line a few years ago and has since been deployed back to defense. I would consider Murphy's passing & creativity to be far superior to Foley's. PS I do like your use of the word Ballydonohoors 😂😂 As he is the sole Ballydonoghoor player I suppose I have nobody else to focus on and you appear to be closer to the situation - my contention was that there is an element of 'round plug and square hole' about him at CB. PK dispensed with him until he realised he couldn't do without him in League Final vs Mayo and which probably stems from the fact that a a CB can only break even if he does everything right. McShane will wreck and ruin for a long time to come so it's just damage limitation. Anyway those three responses to my comment on Jason are decent stuff, the essence of the true value of the forum. BTW you say you know a few lads playing club and county, interesting, e.g. contrast in style of paly between the levels, I spent a few club games up here in Dgal focusing on that - the county will always read then game and club guys appear to work around them, wan Michael Murphy has an entire team working around him and sure that is often even the case with the county, funny enough but he doesn't stand out much more in club games though they do use him effectively alright, I have seen some really classy tactics, one that appeared to be a dud, that is until the net rattled! Spud is more strong and naturally talented than crafty IMO. I seen him pump 5 towards the goals of a day with only 1 getting through, another would have broken the crossbar if it was wood, 5 would all have converted on another day, I was watching a soccer match later that evening and a shot that hit the woodwork had me momentarily think it was a video of the hot-potato I refer to, and hot it was. This was all at the end of the game and his Glenswilly down by 5 pts, just like the end of the '14 AI Final. Focusing on a clubmate is fair enough in a club game discussion but not in a county team perspective IMO. In fairness to you, while I disagree with you, you have never hidden your club bias. I do rate Foley as a county player BTW but inside our 45 (barr an odd raid forwards). Your second point about county players showing for their club is an age old point in every county, some county players are incredible club servers, others give it their all in county matches/training but will mind themselves in club matches if/when they play for their club. We all know of lads who have a tight hammie the morning of club games... Such is human nature and, to be honest, I do not know if I would put my body on the line for the club if I had bigger games on the horizon I imagine I will get some replies about my (hypothetical) lack of club loyalty but the reality is that intercounty GAA is professional in all but salary, players need rest. Their intercounty window is short enough and I do not begrudge anyone for doing their best to extend this window. That said I have sat in the stand for a match and commented "injured you say??" when a late withdrawal is announced... If you checked a picture dictionary for the defination of "Tadhg an dá thaobh" you would see a picture of yours truely...
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 9, 2021 2:21:30 GMT
As he is the sole Ballydonoghoor player I suppose I have nobody else to focus on and you appear to be closer to the situation - my contention was that there is an element of 'round plug and square hole' about him at CB. PK dispensed with him until he realised he couldn't do without him in League Final vs Mayo and which probably stems from the fact that a a CB can only break even if he does everything right. McShane will wreck and ruin for a long time to come so it's just damage limitation. Anyway those three responses to my comment on Jason are decent stuff, the essence of the true value of the forum. BTW you say you know a few lads playing club and county, interesting, e.g. contrast in style of paly between the levels, I spent a few club games up here in Dgal focusing on that - the county will always read then game and club guys appear to work around them, wan Michael Murphy has an entire team working around him and sure that is often even the case with the county, funny enough but he doesn't stand out much more in club games though they do use him effectively alright, I have seen some really classy tactics, one that appeared to be a dud, that is until the net rattled! Spud is more strong and naturally talented than crafty IMO. I seen him pump 5 towards the goals of a day with only 1 getting through, another would have broken the crossbar if it was wood, 5 would all have converted on another day, I was watching a soccer match later that evening and a shot that hit the woodwork had me momentarily think it was a video of the hot-potato I refer to, and hot it was. This was all at the end of the game and his Glenswilly down by 5 pts, just like the end of the '14 AI Final. Focusing on a clubmate is fair enough in a club game discussion but not in a county team perspective IMO. In fairness to you, while I disagree with you, you have never hidden your club bias. I do rate Foley as a county player BTW but inside our 45 (barr an odd raid forwards). Your second point about county players showing for their club is an age old point in every county, some county players are incredible club servers, others give it their all in county matches/training but will mind themselves in club matches if/when they play for their club. We all know of lads who have a tight hammie the morning of club games... Such is human nature and, to be honest, I do not know if I would put my body on the line for the club if I had bigger games on the horizon I imagine I will get some replies about my (hypothetical) lack of club loyalty but the reality is that intercounty GAA is professional in all but salary, players need rest. Their intercounty window is short enough and I do not begrudge anyone for doing their best to extend this window. That said I have sat in the stand for a match and commented "injured you say??" when a late withdrawal is announced... If you checked a picture dictionary for the defination of "Tadhg an dá thaobh" you would see a picture of yours truely... I must have gotten this wrong because everyone thinks I am over doing it re Foley, maybe that I nicknamed him Jayo didn't help. I mention him as, well nobody else does and county players are a bit thin on the ground in NK. Anyway I'll zip it 'till he brings Sam home to me. BTW that was class re 'Tadhg an dá thaobh' - don't get though what you refer to re pic dict? Ashamed to say but I struggle to follow the You Tube clip, between the (beautiful) script and my cúpla focal I struggled - are there any other versions about? It was a pleasant surprise so ta v much.
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Post by hurlingman on Feb 9, 2021 10:16:39 GMT
Cathal Ferriter from Annascaul is joining Dundalk Young Irelands. Could he be in with shout with Louth?
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Post by glengael on Feb 15, 2021 11:32:51 GMT
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Post by glengael on Feb 15, 2021 11:35:40 GMT
Noel Roche might be in with a shout there also. Roche was a fantastic servant and footballer too. was he still around in 1992 when Clare won Munster? he was always at home in the railway cup and international rules , as good as any of his team mates Yes Noel Roche was still there in 1992.I think he had played since the mid/late 1970's with little enough reward but got his medal that day.
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Post by buck02 on Feb 15, 2021 19:41:56 GMT
There was an interesting article in the Sunday Times by Mick Foley.
It was about the Maurice Fitz "promotion" to coach. It stated that the county board wanted to beef up the existing management team with some heavy hitting technical expertise.
But Keane has stood his ground and held onto his own people as he must have concluded they do not need much more on the line that he already has.
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Post by pillar on Feb 15, 2021 21:45:05 GMT
There was an interesting article in the Sunday Times by Mick Foley. It was about the Maurice Fitz "promotion" to coach. It stated that the county board wanted to beef up the existing management team with some heavy hitting technical expertise. But Keane has stood his ground and held onto his own people as he must have concluded they do not need much more on the line that he already has. A 3 time All Ireland winning minor management plus one of the greatest forwards to ever play(MF) and a full time strength and conditioning expert,a fully focused panel,time to forget about 2020 and drive on!!!
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 16, 2021 2:55:42 GMT
There was an interesting article in the Sunday Times by Mick Foley. It was about the Maurice Fitz "promotion" to coach. It stated that the county board wanted to beef up the existing management team with some heavy hitting technical expertise. But Keane has stood his ground and held onto his own people as he must have concluded they do not need much more on the line that he already has. A 3 time All Ireland winning minor management plus one of the greatest forwards to ever play(MF) and a full time strength and conditioning expert,a fully focused panel,time to forget about 2020 and drive on!!! Forgetting 2020 doesn't mean that given the same set of circumstances we won't cave in again and lose when we have the better team, as we had in 2020. I pray I am proved wrong.
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Post by Lolly Valance on Feb 16, 2021 3:01:18 GMT
There was an interesting article in the Sunday Times by Mick Foley. It was about the Maurice Fitz "promotion" to coach. It stated that the county board wanted to beef up the existing management team with some heavy hitting technical expertise. But Keane has stood his ground and held onto his own people as he must have concluded they do not need much more on the line that he already has. A 3 time All Ireland winning minor management plus one of the greatest forwards to ever play(MF) and a full time strength and conditioning expert,a fully focused panel,time to forget about 2020 and drive on!!! Or it could be taken a completely different way and that PK is being needlessly stubborn and refusing to 'beef' up the management team. Nothing I have seen over the past 2 years would instill me with any great confidence for the year going forward. (If we do play).
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Feb 16, 2021 7:48:13 GMT
There was an interesting article in the Sunday Times by Mick Foley. It was about the Maurice Fitz "promotion" to coach. It stated that the county board wanted to beef up the existing management team with some heavy hitting technical expertise. But Keane has stood his ground and held onto his own people as he must have concluded they do not need much more on the line that he already has. A 3 time All Ireland winning minor management plus one of the greatest forwards to ever play(MF) and a full time strength and conditioning expert,a fully focused panel,time to forget about 2020 and drive on!!! Yeah, no change needed. More of the same lads
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Post by pillar on Feb 16, 2021 7:56:48 GMT
A 3 time All Ireland winning minor management plus one of the greatest forwards to ever play(MF) and a full time strength and conditioning expert,a fully focused panel,time to forget about 2020 and drive on!!! Yeah, no change needed. More of the same lads I would say that upto the morning of the Cork game you were relatively happy about how things were going??
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Post by pillar on Feb 16, 2021 8:11:55 GMT
A 3 time All Ireland winning minor management plus one of the greatest forwards to ever play(MF) and a full time strength and conditioning expert,a fully focused panel,time to forget about 2020 and drive on!!! Forgetting 2020 doesn't mean that given the same set of circumstances we won't cave in again and lose when we have the better team, as we had in 2020. I pray I am proved wrong. I'd argue that the management are not blind to what you are saying,would see the need to address the areas needed..everyone here seems to have an opinion on what went wrong.Im assuming so have the management and players..so let's let them work the solution!!
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 16, 2021 9:15:14 GMT
The terms baby and bathwater come to mind with our reaction to the Cork loss.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 16, 2021 9:39:25 GMT
Forgetting 2020 doesn't mean that given the same set of circumstances we won't cave in again and lose when we have the better team, as we had in 2020. I pray I am proved wrong. I'd argue that the management are not blind to what you are saying,would see the need to address the areas needed..everyone here seems to have an opinion on what went wrong.Im assuming so have the management and players..so let's let them work the solution!! My contention is that there is an issue with decision making. Fitzy played a few master strategic and premeditated cards vs Donegal in 2014 AI final, e.g. JOD invites Neil McGee sight seeing, AO'M questioning poor Spud re his intentions, Paul G 'deputising' for KD around the square, Paul Murphy vs 'hat-trickster' McHugh, etc - that all these worked simultaneously had poor McGuinness bamboozled into indecision and which wasn't helped by the subtle assumption that they only had to show. Éamonn wasn't great in the spur of the moment stuff towards the end, though the outside interference didn't help, e.g. our Sindo ice-maiden demanding his head of a Sunday morning as we made our way behind enemy lines to take on Monaghan, a game we were so lucky to draw. PK made a strategic decision on how to play Cork, had all the time in the world, had a team that were 10 points better, maybe 20 when you look at what transpired, and look what happens - Cork get a grip, like a boxer dropping his arms around his stronger opponent, and then we burn energy trying to cut loose when we should be on fire, discharging goals. Fitzy would have rebel jerseys take on a deeper shade that day. At best PK ain't comfortable with the basic fact that if you have the best team you stretch out the opposition by outplaying them - what he did was akin to the fastest horse slowing down the pace. Dwyer and Harte always made full use of their fighters. As I have said before I think a manager who has been in battle has the scars, is blooded, and so won't be doing anything less than going the distance, leaving it all on the field, with or on your shields, etc, hence my favouring a 'promote from within' policy. I would also like to hear more from MF, many a sane soul has him as the all time greatest, oh that touch. I suppose I'm at a disadvantage in that I never even met the man, hence my curiosity - can the genius see the world through the eyes of a team? Something tells me this one can but who was party to the policy that had us beaten by a team that was subsequently beaten by Tipperary in the big ball code? Management can hardly have the solution if therein lies the problem - only time will tell. Ballythefireside Quote of The Day - Winning is much to do with playing a bad hand of cards well - Losing is, well playing the winning hand badly.
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Post by pillar on Feb 16, 2021 10:52:35 GMT
I'd argue that the management are not blind to what you are saying,would see the need to address the areas needed..everyone here seems to have an opinion on what went wrong.Im assuming so have the management and players..so let's let them work the solution!! My contention is that there is an issue with decision making. Fitzy played a few master strategic and premeditated cards vs Donegal in 2014 AI final, e.g. JOD invites Neil McGee sight seeing, AO'M questioning poor Spud re his intentions, Paul G 'deputising' for KD around the square, Paul Murphy vs 'hat-trickster' McHugh, etc - that all these worked simultaneously had poor McGuinness bamboozled into indecision and which wasn't helped by the subtle assumption that they only had to show. Éamonn wasn't great in the spur of the moment stuff towards the end, though the outside interference didn't help, e.g. our Sindo ice-maiden demanding his head of a Sunday morning as we made our way behind enemy lines to take on Monaghan, a game we were so lucky to draw. PK made a strategic decision on how to play Cork, had all the time in the world, had a team that were 10 points better, maybe 20 when you look at what transpired, and look what happens - Cork get a grip, like a boxer dropping his arms around his stronger opponent, and then we burn energy trying to cut loose when we should be on fire, discharging goals. Fitzy would have rebel jerseys take on a deeper shade that day. At best PK ain't comfortable with the basic fact that if you have the best team you stretch out the opposition by outplaying them - what he did was akin to the fastest horse slowing down the pace. Dwyer and Harte always made full use of their fighters. As I have said before I think a manager who has been in battle has the scars, is blooded, and so won't be doing anything less than going the distance, leaving it all on the field, with or on your shields, etc, hence my favouring a 'promote from within' policy. I would also like to hear more from MF, many a sane soul has him as the all time greatest, oh that touch. I suppose I'm at a disadvantage in that I never even met the man, hence my curiosity - can the genius see the world through the eyes of a team? Something tells me this one can but who was party to the policy that had us beaten by a team that was subsequently beaten by Tipperary in the big ball code? Management can hardly have the solution if therein lies the problem - only time will tell. Ballythefireside Quote of The Day - Winning is much to do with playing a bad hand of cards well - Losing is, well playing the winning hand badly.All your points ,well made,point to a sideline malfunction.But the attacks to shots ratio by Kerry that day were on a par with any other team on a day given the weather conditions.So you would say that's a big box ticked.The problem was the shots to scores ratio was way off.And therein asks the question,the player malfunction on the day which happens to every team and that's ok too.So I just think draw a line in the sand and forget about the defeat but don't forget the lessons it taught you.Ill return your quote serve..... Sometimes when you lose a battle,you find a new way to win the war
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Post by john4 on Feb 16, 2021 11:08:21 GMT
What PK did last February/March in getting rid of DB and not replacing him with a recognised football coach was brave in the extreme. Bravely in sport is often rewarded with success. Having a "risk taking" personality and having the skills to execute is what makes great sportspeople and special sporting moments ie. Mike Sheehy's chip on Cullen, Pirlo's penalty, etc. etc. PK has no choice this year but to take the risk of going again with the same backroom team as last year. If he did agree to have the backroom team "Beefed up" he would be admitting that he got it wrong last year with DB. So he now has to double down on that bet.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 16, 2021 11:30:41 GMT
My contention is that there is an issue with decision making. Fitzy played a few master strategic and premeditated cards vs Donegal in 2014 AI final, e.g. JOD invites Neil McGee sight seeing, AO'M questioning poor Spud re his intentions, Paul G 'deputising' for KD around the square, Paul Murphy vs 'hat-trickster' McHugh, etc - that all these worked simultaneously had poor McGuinness bamboozled into indecision and which wasn't helped by the subtle assumption that they only had to show. Éamonn wasn't great in the spur of the moment stuff towards the end, though the outside interference didn't help, e.g. our Sindo ice-maiden demanding his head of a Sunday morning as we made our way behind enemy lines to take on Monaghan, a game we were so lucky to draw. PK made a strategic decision on how to play Cork, had all the time in the world, had a team that were 10 points better, maybe 20 when you look at what transpired, and look what happens - Cork get a grip, like a boxer dropping his arms around his stronger opponent, and then we burn energy trying to cut loose when we should be on fire, discharging goals. Fitzy would have rebel jerseys take on a deeper shade that day. At best PK ain't comfortable with the basic fact that if you have the best team you stretch out the opposition by outplaying them - what he did was akin to the fastest horse slowing down the pace. Dwyer and Harte always made full use of their fighters. As I have said before I think a manager who has been in battle has the scars, is blooded, and so won't be doing anything less than going the distance, leaving it all on the field, with or on your shields, etc, hence my favouring a 'promote from within' policy. I would also like to hear more from MF, many a sane soul has him as the all time greatest, oh that touch. I suppose I'm at a disadvantage in that I never even met the man, hence my curiosity - can the genius see the world through the eyes of a team? Something tells me this one can but who was party to the policy that had us beaten by a team that was subsequently beaten by Tipperary in the big ball code? Management can hardly have the solution if therein lies the problem - only time will tell. Ballythefireside Quote of The Day - Winning is much to do with playing a bad hand of cards well - Losing is, well playing the winning hand badly.All your points ,well made,point to a sideline malfunction.But the attacks to shots ratio by Kerry that day were on a par with any other team on a day given the weather conditions.So you would say that's a big box ticked.The problem was the shots to scores ratio was way off.And therein asks the question,the player malfunction on the day which happens to every team and that's ok too.So I just think draw a line in the sand and forget about the defeat but don't forget the lessons it taught you.Ill return your quote serve..... Sometimes when you lose a battle,you find a new way to win the war What PK did last February/March in getting rid of DB and not replacing him with a recognised football coach was brave in the extreme. Bravely in sport is often rewarded with success. Having a "risk taking" personality and having the skills to execute is what makes great sportspeople and special sporting moments ie. Mike Sheehy's chip on Cullen, Pirlo's penalty, etc. etc. PK has no choice this year but to take the risk of going again with the same backroom team as last year. If he did agree to have the backroom team "Beefed up" he would be admitting that he got it wrong last year with DB. So he now has to double down on that bet. Re Pillar, did Kerry have to wait until 2020 to learn that a new way to win a war with the winning side was to go all out? The game plan was the wrong one of two options and the players didn't decide it - if they ended up playing it then changes should have been made, big ones, by, well, management. If as I suspect management did the planning and it wasn't working, why didn't they change it? And as they didn't then changes need to be made in management. If what john4 says is right, and unfortunately I think he is, then it merely validates the contention that we have a fundamental weakness. My worry is that we descend from managing risk that john4 mentions, to taking chances and that will lead to one inevitable outcome. Let's face it - we dispensed with a genius and then we prove gan aon dabht ar bith that we can't do without him - TCB need to act - control the controllables. Can you imagine being a player, you need leadership, trust, confidence - you need firm ground. Auld John B oft referred to the awesome responsibility that the gift of being of Kerry bestows. We better take responsibility before someone else does and the longer we wait the more likely we are to be beaten - simple as that! I mean it's hardly that we are out of sight and the Dubs aren't the only obstacle - Galway, Tyrone, an emerging Rebel side, Dgal ... on form even Tipp have our measure! If everyone is responsible then nobody is so where does the buck stop? I hardly take pleasure in voicing my concern and it is a small world, people take it personal and get offended. It ain't profitable or popular but is it probably right? I honestly believe this is the best Kerry team ever in the making, bearing in mind standards are rising anyway, better facilities, etc, and other teams are getting better too. Still we have all of 25+ players who are each and collectively capable of blowing the opposition away if given the right opportunity, the best opportunity, anything less is an insult to their talent and commitment. There is sporting genius in them to a man and we need management genius to weave them together. I mean look at the subs bench on days, must be hard being that good and having to watch! Stand back, go though the panel player by player, to a man they have all left their mark, all had moments of genius, we just need that final link to close the loop. I know some more qualified than me have soft talked, but nobody denied what is obvious. Hey, let's stay safe anyway. I have a Collie pup here staring up at me, making me feel guilty as his walk is overdue, I'd better take him, or he'll take me - oh the joys of the simple things in life.
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Post by pillar on Feb 16, 2021 11:38:50 GMT
What PK did last February/March in getting rid of DB and not replacing him with a recognised football coach was brave in the extreme. Bravely in sport is often rewarded with success. Having a "risk taking" personality and having the skills to execute is what makes great sportspeople and special sporting moments ie. Mike Sheehy's chip on Cullen, Pirlo's penalty, etc. etc. PK has no choice this year but to take the risk of going again with the same backroom team as last year. If he did agree to have the backroom team "Beefed up" he would be admitting that he got it wrong last year with DB. So he now has to double down on that bet. Did Kerry have to wait until 2020 to learn that a new way to win a war with the winning side was to go all out? The game plan was the wrong one of two options and the players didn't decide it - if they ended up playing it then changes should have been made, big ones, by, well, management. If as I suspect management did the planning and it wasn't working, why didn't they change it? And as they didn't then changes need to be made in management. Is what John4 says is right, and against hope I think he might be, t I'm not arguing with your points ,what I'm saying is had the players taken the chances,as they usually do,we'd have won that game handy,regardless of the gameplan.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Feb 16, 2021 12:26:36 GMT
Yeah, no change needed. More of the same lads I would say that upto the morning of the Cork game you were relatively happy about how things were going?? But that’s the crux of the issue, it’s a results based game and a results in championship based game. I have never seen a management team get it as wrong as we did that day. I accept Keane is going to stay on this year but the idea that he is digging in and refusing to make any changes is a bit ridiculous, all things considered. The whole backroom doesn’t need to be changed, etc but some attempt to rectify issues would be welcome
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Feb 16, 2021 12:28:50 GMT
The terms baby and bathwater come to mind with our reaction to the Cork loss. If the bath water is giving the baby a nasty rash then you might need to change 1 or 2 inputs. You don’t keep using the same brand if it’s hurting the baby.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Feb 16, 2021 12:31:15 GMT
What PK did last February/March in getting rid of DB and not replacing him with a recognised football coach was brave in the extreme. Bravely in sport is often rewarded with success. Having a "risk taking" personality and having the skills to execute is what makes great sportspeople and special sporting moments ie. Mike Sheehy's chip on Cullen, Pirlo's penalty, etc. etc. PK has no choice this year but to take the risk of going again with the same backroom team as last year. If he did agree to have the backroom team "Beefed up" he would be admitting that he got it wrong last year with DB. So he now has to double down on that bet. But, in fairness, there’s no denying he got it wrong. Do you think he or anyone else thinks that he didn’t? No point in being obnoxiously arrogant about past decisions to hinder future outcomes.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 16, 2021 12:36:04 GMT
The terms baby and bathwater come to mind with our reaction to the Cork loss. If the bath water is giving the baby a nasty rash then you might need to change 1 or 2 inputs. You don’t keep using the same brand if it’s hurting the baby. Was DB the bath water? Hey, we all know there is an issue, just everyone sees in their own way. Just like knowing you will be beaten - only a question of how.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 16, 2021 16:19:41 GMT
The terms baby and bathwater come to mind with our reaction to the Cork loss. If the bath water is giving the baby a nasty rash then you might need to change 1 or 2 inputs. You don’t keep using the same brand if it’s hurting the baby. I don't think my use of the saying was great but you've properly mangled it
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Feb 16, 2021 18:53:12 GMT
If the bath water is giving the baby a nasty rash then you might need to change 1 or 2 inputs. You don’t keep using the same brand if it’s hurting the baby. I don't think my use of the saying was great but you've properly mangled it I won’t disagree with you!!
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Post by buck02 on Feb 18, 2021 13:01:52 GMT
Tim Murphy in the Kerryman this week said they will announce additions to the backroom team during next Monday nights meeting.
Hopefully it wont be an anti-climax appointment but I feel it will.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 18, 2021 15:51:05 GMT
Tim Murphy in the Kerryman this week said they will announce additions to the backroom team during next Monday nights meeting. Hopefully it wont be an anti-climax appointment but I feel it will. If the forum is any barometer of wider sentiment then regardless of the angles individual contributors took, we were pretty much at one on the issue and giving MF added responsibility is playing to the audience, i.e. they had the post mortem a long time ago. Maybe the belief that we potentially have the all time greatest panel has me a bit vocal here and hoping against hope, I just hope they they know what they are doing. It does not stack up - we fell to a team 10-20 points inferior because we thought the best outcome was to play defensively - I mean what way would we play against a team that may be better than us and where the game can only be won tactically? I think PK is responsible and if he is then conceding responsibility for coaching the forwards is hardly the solution. In any event was DC not throwing a wobbler because his bro didn't get a fair crack of the whip, and I don't think he did though I am not close, maybe he isn't up to it at county level, but he was on the panel. Also an oddity about Geaney - not being close often affords one a clear view and my take on this is that we are Kerry and these are issues we extinguished as far back as Dwyer. Are we forgetting what we have learned, e.g. to rout teams we are better than? Ah sure yerra boys 'n' gals 'tiz only an game and once we keep the auld head above water sure you'd never know, we might get lucky. On a lighter note a Tyrone GAA bucko I met lately was telling me of a local wedding he was at a few years ago and hadn't someone put up a request for Sam Maguire to go to the door, his taxi had arrived to take him home. Turned out I was actually at the same wedding and for the life of me I don't recall hearing the announcement - I have a vague recollection though of someone putting up a request!
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Post by john4 on Feb 18, 2021 17:26:43 GMT
Tim Murphy in the Kerryman this week said they will announce additions to the backroom team during next Monday nights meeting. Hopefully it wont be an anti-climax appointment but I feel it will. There have been Popes elected with less secrecy!!
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Post by pillar on Feb 18, 2021 20:27:50 GMT
Tim Murphy in the Kerryman this week said they will announce additions to the backroom team during next Monday nights meeting. Hopefully it wont be an anti-climax appointment but I feel it will. If the forum is any barometer of wider sentiment then regardless of the angles individual contributors took, we were pretty much at one on the issue and giving MF added responsibility is playing to the audience, i.e. they had the post mortem a long time ago. Maybe the belief that we potentially have the all time greatest panel has me a bit vocal here and hoping against hope, I just hope they they know what they are doing. It does not stack up - we fell to a team 10-20 points inferior because we thought the best outcome was to play defensively - I mean what way would we play against a team that may be better than us and where the game can only be won tactically? I think PK is responsible and if he is then conceding responsibility for coaching the forwards is hardly the solution. In any event was DC not throwing a wobbler because his bro didn't get a fair crack of the whip, and I don't think he did though I am not close, maybe he isn't up to it at county level, but he was on the panel. Also an oddity about Geaney - not being close often affords one a clear view and my take on this is that we are Kerry and these are issues we extinguished as far back as Dwyer. Are we forgetting what we have learned, e.g. to rout teams we are better than? Ah sure yerra boys 'n' gals 'tiz only an game and once we keep the auld head above water sure you'd never know, we might get lucky. On a lighter note a Tyrone GAA bucko I met lately was telling me of a local wedding he was at a few years ago and hadn't someone put up a request for Sam Maguire to go to the door, his taxi had arrived to take him home. Turned out I was actually at the same wedding and for the life of me I don't recall hearing the announcement - I have a vague recollection though of someone putting up a request! I've given up debating for Lent you'll be glad to know...its about as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 19, 2021 1:10:10 GMT
If the forum is any barometer of wider sentiment then regardless of the angles individual contributors took, we were pretty much at one on the issue and giving MF added responsibility is playing to the audience, i.e. they had the post mortem a long time ago. Maybe the belief that we potentially have the all time greatest panel has me a bit vocal here and hoping against hope, I just hope they they know what they are doing. It does not stack up - we fell to a team 10-20 points inferior because we thought the best outcome was to play defensively - I mean what way would we play against a team that may be better than us and where the game can only be won tactically? I think PK is responsible and if he is then conceding responsibility for coaching the forwards is hardly the solution. In any event was DC not throwing a wobbler because his bro didn't get a fair crack of the whip, and I don't think he did though I am not close, maybe he isn't up to it at county level, but he was on the panel. Also an oddity about Geaney - not being close often affords one a clear view and my take on this is that we are Kerry and these are issues we extinguished as far back as Dwyer. Are we forgetting what we have learned, e.g. to rout teams we are better than? Ah sure yerra boys 'n' gals 'tiz only an game and once we keep the auld head above water sure you'd never know, we might get lucky. On a lighter note a Tyrone GAA bucko I met lately was telling me of a local wedding he was at a few years ago and hadn't someone put up a request for Sam Maguire to go to the door, his taxi had arrived to take him home. Turned out I was actually at the same wedding and for the life of me I don't recall hearing the announcement - I have a vague recollection though of someone putting up a request! I've given up debating for Lent you'll be glad to know...its about as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike Great minds think alike! Ah I enjoy some stuff and there are good days, Mandad alone makes it worth it, pure classs!
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