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Post by homerj on Sept 25, 2020 9:23:08 GMT
it says that a few players have left the panel including kevin mccarthy.
anybody else?
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Post by diego on Sept 25, 2020 9:37:09 GMT
it says that a few players have left the panel including kevin mccarthy. anybody else? Sean T Dillon, Barry O'Mahony and Eoghan O'Brien were the other names given in the Kerry's Eye report.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2020 9:55:55 GMT
I assume there are limitations on panel sizes anyway both to reduce contagion and also cost.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Sept 25, 2020 11:40:23 GMT
With limitations on squad and panel sizes and Kerry building for the future it is a good idea to bring more youth in. We have been saying for years that 5 minor titles in a row should lead to something and that club form should be rewarded. With all due respect to the excellent players we have had the last 6 years, It hasn't worked for Kerry. I don't think anyone knows what is missing, but I think they are working hard on solving the issue. Was it management? We have new management and have already seen the benefits? Was it the players? Keane has already shown he is willing to give other players a chance. Our best players last year were Clifford and O'Shea and they are both still very young. If we could build a team around 15 young players we could be achieving our own 3, 4 or 5 in a row. With all due respect to a remarkable Dublin team, arguably the best ever, if not the second best ever, they are not getting any younger. Michael Darragh MacAuley, Philly McMahon, Michael Fitzsimons, James McCarthy, Stephen Cluxton, Darren Daly, Cian O'Sullivan, Dean Rock, Kevin McManamon, Eoghan O'Gara, Paddy Andrews, Bernard Brogan and Diarmuid Connolly are all at the end of their careers. I'm not so convinced as the Dubs are that the players coming upon are as good. Especially not when it comes to the backs. Mayo too are not the team they once were. Tyrone and Cork are both improving all the time, as are Donegal, and are most likely going to be great rivals in the coming decade. Will Dublin have a Kerry-like famine after this group of players retires? I wouldn't be surprised. Keane seems to think about the decade ahead and in my opinion that is the right way to think. I'm very optimistic and very hopeful for the future.
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Post by dano on Sept 25, 2020 14:28:52 GMT
Great points there Saoirse. We were not too far away last September and I honestly believe Murchin took too many steps and , were it not for that sucker punch of a goal, would have been closer in the replay. We got closer to Dublin than anyone else in fairness.Some posters seem to think that Dublin dominance is going to last but, with all due respects to all opinions. I'm inclined to agree with you. In sport no dynasties last forever.
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Post by taibhse on Sept 25, 2020 15:03:57 GMT
With limitations on squad and panel sizes and Kerry building for the future it is a good idea to bring more youth in. We have been saying for years that 5 minor titles in a row should lead to something and that club form should be rewarded. With all due respect to the excellent players we have had the last 6 years, It hasn't worked for Kerry. I don't think anyone knows what is missing, but I think they are working hard on solving the issue. Was it management? We have new management and have already seen the benefits? Was it the players? Keane has already shown he is willing to give other players a chance. Our best players last year were Clifford and O'Shea and they are both still very young. If we could build a team around 15 young players we could be achieving our own 3, 4 or 5 in a row. With all due respect to a remarkable Dublin team, arguably the best ever, if not the second best ever, they are not getting any younger. Michael Darragh MacAuley, Philly McMahon, Michael Fitzsimons, James McCarthy, Stephen Cluxton, Darren Daly, Cian O'Sullivan, Dean Rock, Kevin McManamon, Eoghan O'Gara, Paddy Andrews, Bernard Brogan and Diarmuid Connolly are all at the end of their careers. I'm not so convinced as the Dubs are that the players coming upon are as good. Especially not when it comes to the backs. Mayo too are not the team they once were. Tyrone and Cork are both improving all the time, as are Donegal, and are most likely going to be great rivals in the coming decade.Will Dublin have a Kerry-like famine after this group of players retires? I wouldn't be surprised. Keane seems to think about the decade ahead and in my opinion that is the right way to think. I'm very optimistic and very hopeful for the future. I would include Galway in that group. They are a better team under Joyce and are the team to watch this year and going forward.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Sept 25, 2020 15:25:36 GMT
Great points there Saoirse. We were not too far away last September and I honestly believe Murchin took too many steps and , were it not for that sucker punch of a goal, would have been closer in the replay. We got closer to Dublin than anyone else in fairness.Some posters seem to think that Dublin dominance is going to last but, with all due respects to all opinions. I'm inclined to agree with you. In sport no dynasties last forever. Indeed. Murchan did take too many steps, but how often did we ourselves get away with it? I believe that if you're good enough to win, you win it. We were awfully close too being good enough last year and this year this team should be a little bit better, and I think the Dubs are a little bit less excellent. We should be very close this year. I wouldn't rule out Cork or Tyrone either though. Cork could be our banana peel this year.They came close to being Dublin's banana peel last year. Teams like Cork, Tyrone or Donegal have the benefit of getting to play with a bonus card. Nobody expects them to win the final, so they can throw everything at the Munster final or a semi final even if it means they hurt their chances of winning the final. Kerry or Dublin have to keep something in their deck for the final and can't play all their trump cards too early.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Sept 25, 2020 15:28:10 GMT
With limitations on squad and panel sizes and Kerry building for the future it is a good idea to bring more youth in. We have been saying for years that 5 minor titles in a row should lead to something and that club form should be rewarded. With all due respect to the excellent players we have had the last 6 years, It hasn't worked for Kerry. I don't think anyone knows what is missing, but I think they are working hard on solving the issue. Was it management? We have new management and have already seen the benefits? Was it the players? Keane has already shown he is willing to give other players a chance. Our best players last year were Clifford and O'Shea and they are both still very young. If we could build a team around 15 young players we could be achieving our own 3, 4 or 5 in a row. With all due respect to a remarkable Dublin team, arguably the best ever, if not the second best ever, they are not getting any younger. Michael Darragh MacAuley, Philly McMahon, Michael Fitzsimons, James McCarthy, Stephen Cluxton, Darren Daly, Cian O'Sullivan, Dean Rock, Kevin McManamon, Eoghan O'Gara, Paddy Andrews, Bernard Brogan and Diarmuid Connolly are all at the end of their careers. I'm not so convinced as the Dubs are that the players coming upon are as good. Especially not when it comes to the backs. Mayo too are not the team they once were. Tyrone and Cork are both improving all the time, as are Donegal, and are most likely going to be great rivals in the coming decade.Will Dublin have a Kerry-like famine after this group of players retires? I wouldn't be surprised. Keane seems to think about the decade ahead and in my opinion that is the right way to think. I'm very optimistic and very hopeful for the future. I would include Galway in that group. They are a better team under Joyce and are the team to watch this year and going forward. You're right. Can't see how I forgot about Galway. With this being knockout Kerry will probably have the toughest nut to crack this year. Galway had no problem before with Mayo and won't have a problem with them this year either. Tyrone should be able to beat Donegal, though Donegal are improving all the time. Dublin have already won Leinster. The Munster championship could take a lot out of Kerry and Cork this year, but probably prepares us a lot better for a knock out semi final.
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Post by taibhse on Sept 25, 2020 16:42:35 GMT
Midfielders in the modern game seem to be focused on breaking the ball away at the throw-in, mostly without any strategy. The first score is these instances can be very important and I despair sometimes when players have a clear opportunity to catch the ball, cleanly, and set a platform for an attacking movement. It has cost us more than once, typically in that 2nd. half of the replay last September. Donegal under, Jim McGuiness, had this down to fine art and these small margins make a difference in close games.
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Post by givehimaball on Sept 25, 2020 16:55:17 GMT
I assume there are limitations on panel sizes anyway both to reduce contagion and also cost. For match days only 26 players named on the squad and 11 county officials [County Chairperson and Secretary plus 9 backroom team] total will be allowed entry to the ground according to the GPA website. I saw an article last week that under the new centralised player expense system there will be a limit of 32 players and 9 backroom officials being eligible for expenses. Croke Park will be administering and paying these expenses and grants to individual counties will be reduced as a consequence. Counties who want to carry bigger panels/backroom teams will have to pay for this themselves. A by-product of the centralised payment system will mean that when county's financial accounts are published the figure for team preparation won't have the centralised players and backroom expenses portion for this 32+9 amount so it will be very interesting to see what will be officially going through the books in various counties for intercounty team preparation costs. You'd think that the fact that Croke Park are covering the expenses for 32+9 would be a big help to smaller counties even in terms of cashflow alone. Also in some counties where there has been a split between most favoured code and least favoured code, it should help the lesser favoured code a good bit that they would be dealing with Croke Park as opposed to a County Board who look upon them as a burden. Heard far too many stories over the years of poor behaviour by County Board officials behaving awfully to codes they didn't like.
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Post by givehimaball on Sept 25, 2020 17:14:10 GMT
With limitations on squad and panel sizes and Kerry building for the future it is a good idea to bring more youth in.We have been saying for years that 5 minor titles in a row should lead to something and that club form should be rewarded. With all due respect to the excellent players we have had the last 6 years, It hasn't worked for Kerry. I don't think anyone knows what is missing, but I think they are working hard on solving the issue. Was it management? We have new management and have already seen the benefits? Was it the players? Keane has already shown he is willing to give other players a chance. Our best players last year were Clifford and O'Shea and they are both still very young. If we could build a team around 15 young players we could be achieving our own 3, 4 or 5 in a row. With all due respect to a remarkable Dublin team, arguably the best ever, if not the second best ever, they are not getting any younger. Michael Darragh MacAuley, Philly McMahon, Michael Fitzsimons, James McCarthy, Stephen Cluxton, Darren Daly, Cian O'Sullivan, Dean Rock, Kevin McManamon, Eoghan O'Gara, Paddy Andrews, Bernard Brogan and Diarmuid Connolly are all at the end of their careers. I'm not so convinced as the Dubs are that the players coming upon are as good. Especially not when it comes to the backs. Mayo too are not the team they once were. Tyrone and Cork are both improving all the time, as are Donegal, and are most likely going to be great rivals in the coming decade. Will Dublin have a Kerry-like famine after this group of players retires? I wouldn't be surprised. Keane seems to think about the decade ahead and in my opinion that is the right way to think. I'm very optimistic and very hopeful for the future. It's a pity that the Junior All-Ireland was tossed out this year, given how useful a pathway it has been the last few years in terms of developing players and bringing themm through to the senior panel, especially given the change in the U21 grade to U20. No surprise at all that 2 out of the 3 new players both have Junior All-Ireland medals. I'd be hoping that the Kerry County Board would be doing everything in their power to make sure it is restored next year. If the proposed Club/County Calendar split goes ahead (which seems a virtual certainty) they can make the case that the space/time Junior can easily be found in the Calendar to fit in the competition. Given there would be no possibility of club football being played, there would surely be an increased demand/interest by players in the All-Ireland Junior Championship. Get in touch with the GPA and see if they could get them to get on board as a supporter of the Junior Championship.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 25, 2020 18:17:40 GMT
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Pa Kilkenny reflects on long road back to the Kerry pane
2020 was to be his first full season in green and gold since 2015 - and it still will be, but just nothing like he imagined it Pa Kilkenny reflects on long road back to the Kerry panel
Mayo’s Keith Higgins tackles Pa Kilkenny of Kerry in the 2014 All-Ireland SFC semi-final replay. Having been dropped from the panel in 2016 Kilkenny is back in the Kingdom set-up again. Picture: INPHO/James Crombie
FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 25, 2020 - 06:30 AM EOGHAN CORMICAN Once his divisional commitments draw to a close following Saturday evening’s county final, Pa Kilkenny will fall back in with the Kerry football panel.
2020 was to be his first full season in green and gold since 2015 - and it still will be, but just nothing like he imagined it.
Where the inter-county scene is concerned, Kilkenny was a forgotten man in recent years. Let go by then manager Éamonn Fitzmaurice following the conclusion of the 2016 league, the Glenbeigh/Glencar defender could not buy a recall despite the litany of successes he enjoyed with both club and the county junior side.
In the months that followed his dropping from the Kerry panel, Kilkenny played a key role as Glenbeigh/Glencar swept to county, Munster, and All-Ireland junior club glory. There was a second All-Ireland medal pocketed in 2017, Kilkenny lining out at centre-back for the all-conquering Kerry juniors.
But still no comeback.
Come 2019, and with a new Kerry management now in place, Kilkenny reckoned his inter-county days - which included involvement in the memorable 2014 All-Ireland semi-final replay win over Mayo at the Gaelic Grounds - were behind him.
“Obviously in 2016, it is a tough call to get. Nobody wants that,” says Kilkenny of his then dropping.
“I was only 23 at the time so I was thinking, the door was still open to me. We won the county, Munster and All-Ireland with the club that year, and I was thinking, hopefully, [that might lead to a recall]. Didn't get the call.
Learn more “Played with the Kerry juniors in 2017, we won the All-Ireland. Still didn't get the call.
“So then Peter Keane took over. I probably had thought that ship might have sailed for me.”
But Keane got in touch last summer, the Mid Kerry defender supplied with a gym program which would ensure he was not starting from too far back if it was a case that he was called in for the 2020 season. And called in he was.
His selection at corner-back for Kerry’s McGrath Cup fixture against Tipperary on January 5 bridged an almost four-year gap to the last occasion he saw action for the Kerry seniors.
And although regularly part of the match-day panel during the subsequent league campaign, Kilkenny had not seen game-time when Covid-19 brought the shutters down on sporting activity in mid-March.
“It was a little bit of a surprise to get the call. Obviously, I was delighted the boys gave me that second opportunity. I snapped at the chance.
A lot of fellas don't even get a first chance to play inter-county. Plus, I think you've seen from the county championship this year the talent that is out there, so just delighted to get the call.
“With Covid, we didn't know if there would be a club or inter-county season. Fellas are just delighted to be back playing club football and to get this county championship played is great. Then to have the inter-county season to look forward to is fantastic.”
Take it as read that Kilkenny will be asked to pick up one of his Kerry team-mates in tomorrow's county final. It could even be that he is the one tasked with shadowing East Kerry’s David Clifford.
The 27-year-old was part of the Mid Kerry side which came up short in the 2011 and 2014 county deciders. He’s dearly hoping it’ll be a case of third time lucky at Austin Stack Park.
“What stands out from 2011 and 2014 is the result, failing to get the win either time. From the panel we have now, Darren O'Sullivan and Gary Sayers are the only two who have county senior medals. That is kind of driving on the other fellas because they obviously want to get one.
“The last few years we have had injuries to a lot of big players and it really hurt us, whereas this year, we have a clean bill of health and a lot of young fellas are after coming into the panel, the likes of David Mangan and Jack O'Connor. They are really after upping the standard.
“We knew there was always great talent in Mid Kerry, we just didn't perform the last couple of years. With any district side, it is about getting a run of games and getting a bit of consistency under your belt to get the ball rolling. Thankfully, we are still going.”
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Post by southward on Sept 25, 2020 19:41:16 GMT
I assume there are limitations on panel sizes anyway both to reduce contagion and also cost. For match days only 26 players named on the squad and 11 county officials [County Chairperson and Secretary plus 9 backroom team] total will be allowed entry to the ground according to the GPA website. I saw an article last week that under the new centralised player expense system there will be a limit of 32 players and 9 backroom officials being eligible for expenses. Croke Park will be administering and paying these expenses and grants to individual counties will be reduced as a consequence. Counties who want to carry bigger panels/backroom teams will have to pay for this themselves. A by-product of the centralised payment system will mean that when county's financial accounts are published the figure for team preparation won't have the centralised players and backroom expenses portion for this 32+9 amount so it will be very interesting to see what will be officially going through the books in various counties for intercounty team preparation costs. You'd think that the fact that Croke Park are covering the expenses for 32+9 would be a big help to smaller counties even in terms of cashflow alone. Also in some counties where there has been a split between most favoured code and least favoured code, it should help the lesser favoured code a good bit that they would be dealing with Croke Park as opposed to a County Board who look upon them as a burden. Heard far too many stories over the years of poor behaviour by County Board officials behaving awfully to codes they didn't like. The layoffs in the Dublin backroom could cause a recession by themselves.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 25, 2020 21:58:24 GMT
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Post by glengael on Sept 28, 2020 10:41:48 GMT
I see Paul Galvin's sojourn in Wexford came to an end. Not a surprise really.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 28, 2020 19:59:52 GMT
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NEWS SPORT LIFESTYLE OPINION Denis Coughlan book extract: The bitter Cork GAA row that even the Taoiseach couldn't defuse
Five All-Irelands, 12 Munster titles, four All-Stars. Cork’s Denis Coughlan was a dual-code Rolls Royce of a player for club and county. Not that he hadn’t obstacles along the way. Denis Coughlan book extract: The bitter Cork GAA row that even the Taoiseach couldn't defuse
The Glen Rovers team of 1967: Back, from left: Denis O’Riordan; Patsy Harte; Denis Coughlan; Mick Lane; Maurice Twomey; Dave Moore; Jerry O’Sullivan; Tom Corbett. Front, from left: Mick Kenneally; Jackie Daly; John Young; Seanie Kennefick, captain; Bill Carroll; Christy Ring, and Finbarr O’Neill.
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 28, 2020 - 10:39 AM Five All-Irelands, 12 Munster titles, four All-Stars. Cork’s Denis Coughlan was a dual-code Rolls Royce of a player for club and county. Not that he hadn’t obstacles along the way.
In a revealing insight from his autobiography, ‘Everything’, published this week, Coughlan addresses for the first time the bitter stand-off between his beloved Glen Rovers/St Nicks and the Cork County Board in the late 60’s – a conflict with its origins in a Championship clash with UCC.
ON SUNDAY July 28th, 1968 Glen Rovers played UCC in the quarter-final of the county hurling championship and it was a tight game. UCC had a very good team including Ray Cummins, Billy Morgan, Tom Field, Paddy Crowley and John O’Halloran. With about a minute to go, we got a ‘70’.
Our man mis-hit it and I caught the ball – I was playing centre field – and I put it over the bar. So, we were two points up practically on the final whistle.
When I ran back to my position and turned to face the puck out, I noticed a schmozzle in the college goalmouth, which left one of the UCC players injured. There was a dispute afterwards whether or not a Glen Rovers player had been sent off before the final whistle; but whether or not he was, everybody was shocked a few weeks later when the county board expelled him from the association.
His previously exemplary record – he was also on the Cork panel at the time – counted for nothing. Three other Glen players were also suspended for six months and three months, but to have somebody actually expelled from ever being involved in the GAA again as long as he lived, shocked and angered everybody in the club – as far as I know he was the only person ever to have been expelled from the association. Now, I’m not forgetting the player who was injured, and whom I still know to this day and I play golf with him from time to time; and it was a serious injury too.
A factor in the decision of the board was the fact that Con Murphy, who was secretary of the county board, and Seán Ó Síocháin, who was secretary general of the GAA, were both at the match and saw what happened.
The club was also severely reprimanded by the board about the behaviour of its officials in the investigation of the incidents during the game.
It was such a severe punishment that the Glen felt very aggrieved. The club called an extraordinary general meeting which Jack Lynch, who was Taoiseach at the time, attended.
It was the largest meeting ever held in the Glen Hall. At the meeting, Jim Young, who was the president of the club, said that the sentence was, ‘most severe, unjust and savage’. He spoke of a ‘personal vendetta by certain members of the county board against the club which has been carried on for many years’. The club chairman, Theo Lynch (Jack’s brother) said, ‘The findings of the board had dragged the name of one of the most famous clubs in the country in the mud and instead of benefitting the association, they had done great harm to it.’
It was unanimously decided, in the meeting of over 200 people – completely unanimous – that the Glen would pull out of the Cork county championship, even though we were through to the semi-final. Glen Rovers players would not play for Cork, and any of the club’s selectors for Cork teams would resign. Glen Rovers players would not attend any Cork games or any club games organised by the county board – the county final included. As far as I remember, St Nicks followed suit, but it was decided that underage teams would not be affected and would continue to play.
I think the only dissenting voice at the meeting was Jack Lynch and he was making the very sensible point that at some time in the future the club would want to return to playing. How long would the withdrawal last, and how would the Glen move forward in future years? And how would the club seek permission to get back into the championship?
It was a fair point, but emotions were running very high. Taoiseach or not, Glen Rovers and St Nicks hero or not, the proposal to withdraw was passed unanimously.
Denis Coughlan being presented with his 1965 county football medal by his St Nick's and Glen Rovers clubmate Jack Lynch. Denis Coughlan being presented with his 1965 county football medal by his St Nick's and Glen Rovers clubmate Jack Lynch. Of course, the club also appealed the decision of the board to the Munster Council, but that was not expected to be successful and the withdrawal stood. In September, the Munster Council rejected the appeal and the expulsion remained in place. And the Glen and St Nicks remained outside the Cork county board hurling and football fold.
Now, some players were affected more than others by all this. Myself, Denis O’Riordan and Jerry O’Sullivan were all playing hurling for Cork at the time. I was also playing football for Cork, so I was very seriously affected. How badly affected I wouldn’t know for some time, but I would find out to my bitter cost. The extraordinary thing was that everyone – every single person – obeyed the club’s decision. We didn’t go to any matches, we didn’t play with Cork in the National Leagues – Cork were out of the championship at the time.
And I remember distinctly where I was on the day of the county final, which I had never missed up to that day.
Myself and 10 others went off down to Carrauntoohil, and we climbed up to the highest point in Ireland. So that’s where we were, instead of possibly winning a county championship with the Glen.
It was a strange time for us, being so inactive and not playing games. And an uncertain time too. There was talk that the club was going to actually disband at the next AGM the following December and some newspapers ran with that story. Thankfully that didn’t happen.
In fact, the opposite was decided. The club decided to resume all GAA affairs in the county, and agreed to re-affiliate all teams in all grades of championships, while at the same time pressing at every opportunity to have our player’s expulsion from the association revoked. Again, this was decided unanimously.
At that AGM, Jack Lynch said that the action taken by the club was fully justified, that the club always had the best organisation of any unit in the association and down through the years those in authority were envious of the club’s success and spirit.
The extraordinary thing was that the lifetime ban that caused the whole furore was subsequently rescinded. Firstly, in 1972 it was, on appeal, reduced to 10 years. Within a year of that, congress decided that the maximum suspension for any offence would be two years and so our player was – thankfully – reinstated, and he did play again for Glen Rovers.
THE Glen being the Glen, we bounced back in 1969. We felt we had to. In Glen Rovers there is always a cause and the cause that year was our team-mate who had been wronged. And we were Glen Rovers. Being honest, we wanted to put it up to the county board too.
Now, we had to reapply to the county board to play. There was no truce or coming together or agreement or anything like that. We had to eat humble pie and reapply.
There was no backing down by the board; we had to send a formal letter from the club – which is exactly what Jack Lynch had foreseen the previous year but he wasn’t heeded at the time.
We were men with a mission in 1969. It was always drummed into us in the Glen how important it was to win the county championship and we desperately wanted to win our 22nd title that year.
We played UCC in the final on the 22nd of September and remember it was against them the previous year that all the trouble had happened. They had Ray Cummins, Seamus Looney, Pat McDonnell – and the best of players from other counties too.
Cork captain Ray Cummins make his speech after being presented with the Liam MacCarthy Cup by GAA president Con Murphy in 1976. Also included are, from left, county board chairman Donal O’Sullivan, Pat McDonnell, John Horgan, Martin O’Doherty, Charlie McCarthy, Martin Coleman, Denis Coughlan, Gerald McCarthy, Brian Murphy, Eamonn O’Donoghue, Sean O’Leary, John Allen, and Mick Malone. Picture; Connolly Collection/Sportsfile Cork captain Ray Cummins make his speech after being presented with the Liam MacCarthy Cup by GAA president Con Murphy in 1976. Also included are, from left, county board chairman Donal O’Sullivan, Pat McDonnell, John Horgan, Martin O’Doherty, Charlie McCarthy, Martin Coleman, Denis Coughlan, Gerald McCarthy, Brian Murphy, Eamonn O’Donoghue, Sean O’Leary, John Allen, and Mick Malone. Picture; Connolly Collection/Sportsfile The so-called ‘College Rule’ was in place those days which meant that all senior hurlers had to play for UCC and not their clubs, or they would not be allowed sit their exams. Thank God it was withdrawn later or UCC would have won a lot more.
But we had good players too and our captain was Denis O’Riordan. The game was billed very much as a veteran-laden team versus a talented array of youngsters. And it looked for a long time during that game that the UCC youngsters would come out on top. After 20 minutes they were leading by 0-8 to 0-2. Then Mick Kenneally got a great goal from a free. But we were still down by four points at half-time and then UCC started to pull away.
With 10 minutes of the second-half gone, UCC were well ahead, by 1-12 to 1-4 but we rallied and drove on, our momentum building minute on minute. We won the game by an amazing 12 points, 4-16 to 1-13, a 20-point turnaround in 20 minutes.
We always had great team spirit in Glen Rovers but we could hurl too. This was our 22nd county title and I think that was one of the very best we ever won. It was certainly one of the sweetest and it was very important for us. It also marked a transitionary period for the club. By the time we won our next championship, several players had retired or emigrated; people like Bill Carroll, Maurice Twomey, Mick Kenneally, Mick Lane, Jackie Daly and Seanie O’Riordan. So, we had to build another team. Which, being Glen Rovers, we did.
AFTER the All-Ireland final of 1969 and the subsequent Oireachtas final, I wasn’t feeling well and the doctors told me I had a blood infection – a virus of some kind – and they advised me to take a break from hurling and football.
They suggested six months but, while I did take the winter off (missing the National Leagues before and after Christmas), I was back training for the Glen and St Nicks in early March and I was feeling great, raring to go. I was 25 and the break had done me good, and I was straight back training with the Cork footballers.
But I wasn’t welcomed with open arms by the Cork hurling selectors. I just got on with it and eventually I was brought back into the hurling panel.
Although Glen Rovers had won the county championship in 1969, we had only two players on the Cork championship panel in 1970, myself and Jerry O’Sullivan.
That in itself, was a travesty, but I wasn’t on the team, either – I was a sub. Since Jerry was the only Glen player on the team, he was automatically the captain. So, Jerry captained Cork in the Munster semi-final against Limerick which Cork won by 4-13 to 3-6 in Thurles – a big win. That was on the 28th of June. I was an unused substitute.
Then the bombshell: Jerry was dropped off the panel – the panel – for the Munster final against Tipp three weeks later. Can you ever remember a captain of a county team being dropped off the panel for a final, having won the semi-final so well? I can’t.
Of course, this meant that when Cork beat Tipperary in the final by two points, Paddy Barry of St Vincent’s, as the longest serving player, was captain and received the cup. The fact that I had been Man of the Match in the previous year’s Munster final didn’t impress the selectors, either. I was not given a run that day, even though it was a tight game.
Perhaps this was when Glen Rovers people began to wonder what was happening with the county board and its selection committee for the Cork hurling team in 1970.
Remember that this is less than two years since Glen Rovers had defied the board and withdrawn from all board activities after the UCC match. And Glen Rovers were now county champions. But we weren’t even represented on the pitch the following year in the Munster final.
The reprisals against Glen Rovers had begun in 1969 when I was playing in the National Hurling League semi-final against Tipperary in April. This is how one newspaper reported what happened next... “Coughlan had a brilliant game that day (against Tipperary) at centrefield but, shortly before the end, was pulled out of the game by the selectors and replaced by Gerald McCarthy who only a few hours earlier had been considered unfit to play. This shock change is still one of the most controversial arguments in Cork GAA circles. Many regard it as a retaliatory dig against Glen Rovers by the Cork GAA board.”
What made matters worse was that the 60-minute game was right in the balance when they took me off, prompting Mick Dunne, in the Irish Press, to write... “When Tipperary took back the lead for those three second-half minutes Cork were still unsettled following the 52nd minute withdrawal of Denis Coughlan ... Coughlan had been such a dominant figure at centre field ... that Tipperary were never happy around the middle”.
Then they dropped me for the league final a few weeks later against the All-Ireland champions, Wexford, prompting no less a sportswriter than Paddy Downey to write in the Irish Times... “Surprise of the Cork team to play Wexford in the National Hurling League final at Croke Park on Sunday is the omission of the Glen Rovers man, Denis Coughlan, who was one of the outstanding members of the side which beat Tipperary in the semi-final at Thurles on April 13th.”
He added that my substitution against Tipp was... “to the astonishment of nearly every Cork supporter at Thurles Sportsfield”.
Now, I’m not putting in these newspaper reports to big myself up, but rather to show that all this wasn’t a Denis Coughlan/Glen Rovers/Blackpool conspiracy theory, but something that was widely known and accepted in GAA circles – even outside Cork. Me being dropped for the National Hurling League final of 1969 was no surprise to anyone. But what happened the following year was far worse.
FOR the 1970 All-Ireland semi-final against London on the 16th of August I was picked to play at centre field. And I was captain – I had to be if I was playing.
My inclusion was a surprise, not only to myself but to the newspapers. One article went... “The surprise is no reflection on Coughlan’s ability. It comes because of the continuous running battle between the Cork selectors and the county champions Glen Rovers, disagreement that had meant that appearances by Glen members on the Cork team being few and far between”.
When it was put to me if I had any ill-will to the selectors because of what they had done, I was quoted as saying,... “All I am concerned with is hurling itself and the fact that I have now got my place back on the Cork team. This is my only chance of playing in this year’s All-Ireland final. On this game alone I will be judged and I have to make the best of it”.
And, even though I say so myself, I played well, and Cork won well on the day. But the board and the selectors had other ideas for the final, and when the team was named, I was dropped.
Jerry, the captain of the team, had been dropped for the Munster final and I, the captain of the team, was dropped for the All-Ireland final. The only two Glen Rovers players on the panel. The only two players who would have been captain on either day to raise the cup for Cork. Two captains dropped for two consecutive finals, both from the same club.
To rub salt in the wound, how I learned I wasn’t playing in the final was also unpleasant. I got a phone call from the journalist, Val Dorgan on the Tuesday night before the final. I knew Val, he had played for the Glen himself.
‘Do you know you’re not playing on Sunday?’ he said.
‘No, Val, I didn’t know that, this is the first I’ve heard of it,’ I said. ‘And,’ he said. ‘Did you know that if Cork win on Sunday it will be the first time ever that Cork have won an All-Ireland that there wasn’t a Glen Rovers man on the team?’ ‘No,’ I said, gutted. ‘I didn’t know that, either.’ The following morning the team was confirmed, with the headline... “Cork Restore Four Players for Final: No Glen Rovers Man in Team”. The article also confirmed that 1970 would be the first time, “since 1929 when Paddy ‘Fox’ Collins became the first Glen Rovers player to wear a senior jersey in an All-Ireland final that the Blackpool club will not have a representative on an All-Ireland team”.
Grim reading.
Now, while I may not have known about the Glen always having had a player on Cork All-Ireland final teams, I’m sure others inside and outside the club did know it. And the club wasn’t happy; everybody knew what was going on – what the board was up to – that this was revenge for what Glen Rovers had done two years previously.
So the club ordered its representative on the selection committee (yes, there was one since we were county champions) to resign, but he refused. While everybody knew what was happening, nobody – least of all Glen Rovers – could do anything about it.
The board said the selectors were independent and the selectors said they were picking the best team.
The final went ahead against Wexford and Cork won easily. I sat on the sideline watching. The game was extraordinary from a few perspectives. There were four Quigley brothers on the Wexford starting team, Dan, John, Martin and Pat – that must have been a very disappointed household the following day.
But I was delighted that Eddie O’Brien scored a hat-trick of goals for Cork, a record that stood until Lar Corbett equalled it for Tipperary exactly 40 years later.
The 1976 All-Ireland winning Cork team party on the train, including Denis Coughlan with the Liam MacCarthy Cup held aloft. The 1976 All-Ireland winning Cork team party on the train, including Denis Coughlan with the Liam MacCarthy Cup held aloft. It was obvious mid-way through the second half that Cork were going to win in a canter. With six minutes to go, we were ahead by an extraordinary 17 points. And this was the first ever 80-minute final, where, to bring on subs would not only have been expected but almost essential. But I wasn’t brought on, anyway, and that was always the plan.
I was never going to be presented with the Liam MacCarthy Cup that day and Glen Rovers were never going to be represented on the team. When we went up to collect the cup afterwards, I must admit that I wasn’t feeling particularly well because I knew in my heart and soul the reasons behind what had just happened. I can’t say I experienced any consolation that this was not a personal campaign against me – that I was, as it were, collateral damage.
And, of course I was not the only victim of what was going on; Jerry O’Sullivan had been treated shamefully, too. Jack Lynch was Taoiseach and of course he was there, both in his official capacity and also as a proud Cork man. And we all had to go up on the podium – Paddy Barry first, as captain.
When I reached the podium, Jack was about six feet away from me. And he made a beeline for me; he had to go past people to get as close to me as he could. I remember this as vividly as if it were yesterday. He shook his head angrily and said, ‘The so-and-sos didn’t even give you a taste of it’.
Except he didn’t say ‘so-and-sos’ but I don’t want to repeat the word he used – it was a word that you wouldn’t often hear from Jack Lynch, but everybody knew what was going on.
Now, I didn’t write this book to settle old scores. Anybody who knows me knows that I’m the one most likely to be trying to stop the fight rather than start it. And there was a lot more I could have put in this book that wouldn’t show people at their best – about this particular incident, too – but I didn’t.
Nor, you will notice, am I naming names which I could have if I wanted to, they’re all dead now. Despite the bitterness shown towards Glen Rovers at that time, I’m not going to return the compliment.
No, life is too short. On the other hand, I did decide when I started the book that I would tell the truth – that’s the way I was brought up. And the truth is that politics was rife in Cork hurling and football those days, with people using positions of power to further their own personal ends and that of their clubs rather than Cork teams.
It was especially prevalent in Cork minor teams, unfortunately. Luckily for me, all that was about to change in Cork hurling and football, and luckily for Cork, too.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 28, 2020 20:01:36 GMT
Denis Coughlan was the powerhouse for Cork hurling in the 1970. That back story from 1969 comes as amazing news.
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 3, 2020 22:15:00 GMT
The Cork hurling final between Blavkrock and Glen Rovers is on tv tomorrow. First final between them in 42 years.
And its a chance to watch the artist in residence Pat Horgan.
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Post by mossie on Oct 3, 2020 22:47:07 GMT
Denis Coughlan was the powerhouse for Cork hurling in the 1970. That back story from 1969 comes as amazing news. He won a football in 1973 as well? the likes of JBM , Coughlan, Ray Cummins, Brian Murphy were some dual men. Denny Allen played senior championship hurling for Cork too which is not always recogonised The story of 1969 is a bit mad
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Post by clubman on Oct 4, 2020 11:01:13 GMT
Thats a long but very interesting read, thanks for posting
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Post by veteran on Oct 4, 2020 11:08:41 GMT
I read with interest the excerpt from Denis Coughlan's book. I was domiciled in Cork in that era and in fact was at that match. Needles to say my recall of events from so long ago is sketchy but the violence which permeated the entire match is still embedded in my mind. I do remember that Denis O'Riordan was CHB for the Glen and was marking John O'Halloran from Blackrock but was playing for UCC at that time. They were Cork team mates. That counted for nought on the night. Denis O'Riordan was , how shall I put it, a man who never spared the timber. He is dead now so I will leave it at that. He didn't spare the timber on John O'Halloran. John was a man who was slow to anger but---. I presume both were put off but not sure.
I can recall the name of the Glen man who was banned for life, temporarily at least, but I will refrain from naming him in the interests of avoiding defaming him etc. The recipient of his assault was removed from the field. I am not privy to the build up to that incident if indeed there was a build up.
The important thing to remember is that match was not an isolated example of that behaviour. In my view it was typical of the way hurling was played back then, in Cork at least. A hurley is the product of beautiful craftmanship but in the wrong hands, when the intent is malign, it becomes a club with which to inflict potentially serous physical injury. Too often back then it was used as a club. I remember on the evening of a church holiday in June there was an annual match between Glen Rovers and St. Finbarrs. Normally this would be an insignificant challenge but the protagonists used it either as a recriminatory exercise in respect of the previous year's meeting or as a softening up exercise for the upcoming championship. It attracted huge attendances not in the anticipation of quality hurling but rather in the hope, I regret to say, of an abundance of violence. People were rarely disappointed. The fixture was eventually discontinued, perhaps even at the intervention of the bishop of Cork, not wishing to have a church holiday desecrated in such a manner. Not sure of the this latter "fact" but there is a hint of that possibility in my failing memory.
I recall another championship match around that time between St. Finbarrs and the Glen. The bulk of the Cork team was involved. Frank Murphy, Cork Secretary, was the referee. Both teams finished up with about ten players. Frank was as willing to send off the county players as quickly as the more humble club players. What mattered to Frank was what foul deed was committed not by whom from the point of view county status. He was a terrific referee who knew the rules backwards while being imbued at the same time with a sense of fair play. I credit Frank with playing a huge part in cleaning up Cork hurling. It is fashionable nowadays to speak of him in a pejorative fashion but anybody who had/has Cork hurling interests at heart would surely, casting all biases aside, all club loyalties aside, concede that yes he was a major figure in the advancement of Cork hurling. Certainly from a standpoint of eradicating the violent, incestuous nature of the game all too often exhibited back then.
Denis Coughlan was a wonderful hurler and a very good footballer and more importantly a supreme sportsman with a live and let live attitude. But Denis, you will evoke no sympathy from me regarding the apparent treatment of Glen Rovers or indeed St. Finbarrs or indeed Blackrock by the Cork County Board. The cause was greater than any Cork club or any Cork hurler. The culture of violence and sense of entitlement by some clubs needed to be culled. I think Cork hurling and indeed the game in general has benefitted.
I have concentrated on Cork hurling because that was where I lived in those far off times. Very likely it was no different in other counties. As an example, one of the most violent games I ever attended was played here in Listowel between Ballyduff and Lixnaw circa 1962. It simply was savagery at its most extreme. I cannot recall what sanctions was meted out by the Kerry County Board.
Hurling has come a long way since those primitive times.
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Post by mossie on Oct 4, 2020 14:46:22 GMT
less faction fighting in hurling now alright Veteran!!
that one between Ballyduff and Lixnaw was supposed to have been bad
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 4, 2020 14:54:21 GMT
Very good county final in Meath between Ratoath and Kells.
Sides level on 60 mins but then Kells scored a penalty.
7 injury mins went up.
Ratoath got a point back from a free and in the last throw of the dice they launched a perfect garryowen into the square and the ball squirted across the goal line and a Ratoath hand flicked it to the net to win it. Heart stopping drama.
Good quality game.
Kells will be sick. They last won it in 1991 when Terry Ferguson was captain.
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Post by veteran on Oct 4, 2020 15:43:47 GMT
How did the referee miss that blatant pull back/pull down on Alan Connolly in the Cork county final. Indeed , I felt the Glen player should have got a black card. Shortly afterwards Pat Horgan got a fairly dubious free. The referee will be very embarrassed, should be anyway, if he sees a replay of the Alan Connolly incident at half time.
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 4, 2020 16:33:44 GMT
How did the referee miss that blatant pull back/pull down on Alan Connolly in the Cork county final. Indeed , I felt the Glen player should have got a black card. Shortly afterwards Pat Horgan got a fairly dubious free. The referee will be very embarrassed, shjould be anyway, if he sees a replay of the Alan Connolly incident at half time. the only answer is that he was unsighted. 1.20 to 3.14 at full time. 20 minsextra time to come. 3 second half goals by Glen Rovers and two impossible points by Pat Horgan. Its down to who has the better panel now in extra time. Very enjoyable game
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 4, 2020 17:07:48 GMT
Blackrock cut loose in the first period of extra time and went 10 up but Glen Rovers brought in back to 3.
Blackrock deservedly won it helped by Robbie Cotters second goal. First title since 2002.
Blackrock won an epic semifinal over UCC in a game that Shane Conway got 14 points.
There is little doubt the standard at club level this year is higher with clubs playing in better weather and having their county players injury free.
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 4, 2020 17:39:42 GMT
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There was an element of Cantona about Connolly - I remember thinking he could take me to the cleaners any moment
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October 02 2020 08:00 PM Diarmuid Connolly once asked me to swap jerseys after a Railway Cup game in Parnell Park, but – at the time – it wasn’t something I liked to do.
So I told him it was already promised to someone and, if I’m honest, that’s a decision I regret now. My young fella got pretty much all of my jerseys when I was playing, though I did make an exception once with Kieran McGeeney. More’s the pity I didn’t do likewise with Connolly.
Because to me, he’s been the most loved Dublin footballer of their golden age.
It seems to me that the Hill always recognised him as a flawed genius and that status just endeared him to supporters even more. People who know Connolly say he’s a very nice guy, but, on a personal level, he remains a mystery and I’m sure not many get beyond that hard, exterior shell.
I’ve a friend who’d be tight with a lot of the current Dublin players but whenever I ask him about Connolly, his reply is invariably: ‘Tomás, I don’t know him!’
That said, one thing I do know about Diarmuid Connolly is that he turned me inside out in the 2013 All-Ireland semi-final.
I actually played alright on the day, but he still burnt me for three points from play. Most fellas you’d mark might have a handful of tricks, but Connolly had no end of them.
I remember at one stage in that game thinking that he could take me to the cleaners at any moment, but he’d pass the ball when, if he had taken me on, 100 per cent I was gone. If I’d been the Dublin coach, I’d have been screaming at him to go at me every opportunity he got.
Because that was always the fear playing him. That he’d go for the jugular.
How good was he? I’ve never seen any player with a better kick off the outside of the boot, long or short. He had extraordinary balance, power and easy pace too. To me, he was just someone who made the difficult stuff look easy.
Still, it’s hardly unfair to ask if he always got the best out of himself. Bearing in mind that his senior inter-county debut came back in ’07, a personal haul of just two All-Stars seems fairly modest for someone of his talent.
And yet, Jim Gavin – essentially – broke his own rules for Connolly last year. Would he have done that for any other player? I very much doubt it.
In doing so, I believe he was acknowledging the player’s uniqueness. I mean just think about the gamble he was taking in bringing back someone whose first preference had been a summer in America? In putting him into a match-day squad ahead of an exemplary individual like Bernard Brogan?
Reading Brogan’s book, ‘The Hill’, the scale of that gamble is crystal clear. In fact, there’s a passage that goes right to the heart of it. “Last summer while Dermo was in Boston, I was slaving up that hill in Saggart, rehabbing that knee every day,” writes Brogan of his battle to return from a cruciate injury.
“Last December I put in 16 6.30am gym sessions hoping to get some game-time in the league only to be left sitting on the bench or sitting at home. I’ve waited patiently again this summer for my chance.”
Brogan is open too in revealing how he finally confronted Gavin about the clear contradiction in all he routinely preached with his indulgence of Connolly.
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“If you had given me a fifth, a tenth, a hundredth of the energy and encouragement you’ve given Diarmuid, I’d have taken your hand off,” he recalls telling his manager. Brogan makes it clear throughout that he has no issue on a personal level with Connolly, a long-time friend. His issue is with what he considers a double standard.
And I can’t help but wonder how differently those words might be structured today if, say, Kerry were now reigning All-Ireland champions. If Dublin’s five-in-a-row bid had run aground in last year’s drawn final.
Bear in mind that the four-in-a-row was secured while Connolly was in Boston. It could only be human nature that fellas’ backs would be up then watching him pitch up at training mid-season one year later, essentially only because some issue with his passport meant he couldn’t summer in the US again.
That was an extraordinary chance for Gavin to take and one, I’d imagine, that caused him a few sleepless nights.
But it tells you something fundamental about Connolly too that he was willing to take it. He still saw in him a game-changer. Somebody who could be the difference.
Personally, I’m not quite sure any other player in GAA history has been judged as publicly as Diarmuid Connolly. You hear stories about someone like Christy Ring and almost casual anecdote about how he’d think nothing of pulling a mean stroke if he felt it was warranted. It seems to me that that so-called ‘edge’ to his game almost added to the ‘Ringy’ legend.
But Connolly couldn’t look crooked at someone without it becoming a story.
I’m not for a second downplaying the bad stuff. He had a short fuse and that fuse got him into trouble far too often. For sure, opponents yanked his tail. But do you not think opponents tried yanking Gooch’s tail in his time? Or Maurice Fitz’s. Or Peter Canavan’s?
Connolly stepped over the line too frequently. Nobody can deny that.
But he was also, plainly, ill at ease with the scrutiny those moments brought. I certainly never got the impression he particularly enjoyed the limelight.
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To me, he’s always radiated this message of ‘Just leave me be!’
Like I was reading yesterday that he never actually started and finished a game for Dublin in the three-and-a-half years since that 2017 altercation with linesman, Ciarán Brannigan, in Portlaoise. That incident was, in some respects, maybe the beginning of the end of his inter-county career.
But how perverse is that?
That one of the great players of the modern age would suffer such consequences from losing his rag in a non-event game against Carlow. On some level, maybe that captures the Connolly enigma perfectly. How he could get sucked into stuff even in games carrying zero threat to Dublin.
When you broke the Brannigan incident down, my view was that he suffered rough justice. Connolly was constantly putting up with what you might call ‘special attention’ and this was just one of those occasions when he didn’t handle it well.
So, deep down, I wonder did he just become fed up with all that kind of noise in the end?
You’d hear stories about incidents when he’d be out socialising and it was clear that plenty of people saw only opportunity in his short fuse. And that’s the trouble with camera-phones now. Everything is for public consumption. You look at someone like Harry Maguire getting into trouble in Greece and it strikes you that if Manchester United’s captain, with all the wealth and privilege his status brings, can’t avoid confrontation, what hope the amateur GAA superstar?
I’ve always felt there was an element of Eric Cantona about Connolly. Just that remote, solitary quality.
Of course, his retirement might be down to nothing more complex than the idea of a championship behind closed doors just holding no appeal now. We’ve seen Colm Cavanagh step away in Tyrone and, no question, the psychological aspect of preparing properly for this year’s championship must be uniquely challenging.
That said, I still believe that Dublin are the only one of what we might call the major counties who can, essentially, pace their way into December.
You look at Munster and that Kerry-Cork game in early November is going to be the ultimate do or die. Connacht will – as always – be a dogfight between Galway, Mayo and Roscommon. Ulster? We’re going to lose either Donegal or Tyrone at the quarter-final stage.
But the season only gets serious for Dublin when they meet the Ulster champions in an All-Ireland semi-final. Before that? They’ll win Leinster at even 75 per cent of their capacity.
Like I do believe a day of reckoning is coming for Dublin through the cumulative loss of so many extraordinary players. Men like Brogan and Connolly and, for now, Jack McCaffrey. But that day mightn’t come until the likes of Stephen Cluxton and James McCarthy and Mick Fitzsimons and Jonny Cooper step away too.
For now, I don’t see much for Dubs’ fans to worry about.
In some respects, Connolly retiring may even solve a potential problem for Dessie Farrell. Because supporters would always want to see him getting game-time even though, by and large, he’s been out of the picture for some time now. His departure probably takes a bit of pressure off Dessie in that regard.
Connolly wasn’t the complete package, nobody with that short a fuse could claim to be. But he was a truly unique talent just the same. That said, I always found it exciting just watching him. Few players have the ability to consistently change the course of a game, but he was one of that few.
We’ll all be the poorer for his departure.
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Post by veteran on Oct 4, 2020 18:28:50 GMT
It is a long time since I enjoyed a hurling match so much. The term classic is overused and I am not sure what ingredients one needs before describing a game in such a way. I suppose you need quality and you need a contest. Especially when one considers the inclement weather that prevailed today I feel it is appropriate to describe the Cork county final as a classic. Certainly the second half of normal time is about as good as hurling can be.
The game was peppered with extraordinary endeavor, extraordinary scores and extraordinary individual performances, not least from some of the substitutes. When Blackrock went ten points up in extra time I said to myself that it was a pity that such a heretofore great game was about to peter out. I need not have worried . A combination of Glen Rovers spirit ,spearheaded by the peerless Pat Horgan , and some careless play by Blackrock narrowed the gap to three before Blackrock got their third or fourth wind to secure the trophy.
Blackrock had a Norberg, a Murphy, a Moylan and a couple of Cashmans,, names which evoke former Blackrock glory days. It is hard to believe that it is eighteen years since they last won the title. Hard to believe of course that it is fourteen years approx since Cork won the title. On the evidence of what we saw today it maybe not long more.
Finally , we all know what the balletic Patrick Horgan can do but who is this Alan Connolly? He is unknown to me but I suspect that a red jersey could be coming his way shortly.
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 4, 2020 19:11:58 GMT
Blackrock had a Norberg, a Murphy, a Moylan and a couple of Cashmans,, names which evoke former Blackrock glory days. The fullforward for Glen Rovers scored two goals. His name is Simon Kennifick. He is a grandson of Christy Ring. The two Cashman's are Jim's sons. The Cork and Tipp hurlings finals can be deemed classics all right although the Tipp one edges it for pure drama. The KK one was a non event and Ballyhale look unbeatable for the next few years.
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Post by diego on Oct 4, 2020 19:43:02 GMT
Castlehaven and the Barrs playing extra time in the Cork SFC semi final. Lively encounter.
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