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Post by thehermit on Feb 2, 2023 12:25:18 GMT
Just got round to watching the Joe Canning Laochra Gael Documentary on the TG4 player. First and foremost it is a fantastically put together piece of television with some excellent shots of Joe Cannings best moments, cut with comments from his opponents, teammates and family. But what really struck me was the similarities between Joe's career and David Clifford. Thankfully the GAA has prevented guys under the age of 17 from playing senior football and hurling these days. Joe was playing Minor Intercounty and Senior Club at 18 years of age. He was playing u21 club hurling at 13. I'd imagine David would have been in the same position if the rules hadn't been amended. He spoke of the immense pressure to perform for Galway, and while he always delivered in the field, off the field this pressure was a massive burden on him. I'm not sure what can be done for the likes of David to ensure that he doesn't have to endure the same sort of pressure. Like Joe he always delivers, especially when the pressure is highest. I'd just worry that it would weigh on him off the field. Winning an All Ireland 4 years into his Intercounty career might lesson the burden a bit. Joe had to wait 10 or 11 years for his day to come. A lot of it comes down to an individuals personality too. David strikes me as someone who is not fazed by anything and someone who barely even acknowledges the hype machine around him. It reminds me of some anecdotes about the contrasting outlooks of the Golden Era team: Was it Mikey Sheehy or Spillane who talked about always being a bag of nerves running onto Croke Park for an All Ireland final and one time being driven demented because John Egan sauntered over to them just before the throw-in enquiring where he thought the team would be heading for a few pints after the game! That's all that was worry John! I remember hearing Jacko speak once about how he always roomed with Jimmy Deenihan and Jimmy's attitude was a model of sports psychology. The morning of one AL final Jimmy opened the room curtain to see the sun shinning bright and started telling Jacko how this was perfect for a defender like himself, how in weather like this he knew he'd thrive and have the beating of his man that day. Next year Jimmy looks out the window to see it teeming rain and turns to Jacko and starts talking about how a day like this is perfect for his game, that he's best on a wet ball, and how his opponent won't have the stomach for a dirty day like it is
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Post by decondd2 on Feb 2, 2023 13:09:57 GMT
Just got round to watching the Joe Canning Laochra Gael Documentary on the TG4 player. First and foremost it is a fantastically put together piece of television with some excellent shots of Joe Cannings best moments, cut with comments from his opponents, teammates and family. But what really struck me was the similarities between Joe's career and David Clifford. Thankfully the GAA has prevented guys under the age of 17 from playing senior football and hurling these days. Joe was playing Minor Intercounty and Senior Club at 18 years of age. He was playing u21 club hurling at 13. I'd imagine David would have been in the same position if the rules hadn't been amended. He spoke of the immense pressure to perform for Galway, and while he always delivered in the field, off the field this pressure was a massive burden on him. I'm not sure what can be done for the likes of David to ensure that he doesn't have to endure the same sort of pressure. Like Joe he always delivers, especially when the pressure is highest. I'd just worry that it would weigh on him off the field. Winning an All Ireland 4 years into his Intercounty career might lesson the burden a bit. Joe had to wait 10 or 11 years for his day to come. A lot of it comes down to an individuals personality too. David strikes me as someone who is not fazed by anything and someone who barely even acknowledges the hype machine around him. It reminds me of some anecdotes about the contrasting outlooks of the Golden Era team: Was it Mikey Sheehy or Spillane who talked about always being a bag of nerves running onto Croke Park for an All Ireland final and one time being driven demented because John Egan sauntered over to them just before the throw-in enquiring where he thought the team would be heading for a few pints after the game! That's all that was worry John! I remember hearing Jacko speak once about how he always roomed with Jimmy Deenihan and Jimmy's attitude was a model of sports psychology. The morning of one AL final Jimmy opened the room curtain to see the sun shinning bright and started telling Jacko how this was perfect for a defender like himself, how in weather like this he knew he'd thrive and have the beating of his man that day. Next year Jimmy looks out the window to see it teeming rain and turns to Jacko and starts talking about how a day like this is perfect for his game, that he's best on a wet ball, and how his opponent won't have the stomach for a dirty day like it is You'd have said the same about Canning in terms of how he carries himself outwardly. But internally the pressure is sure to weigh on guys. Hopefully David has his ways of dealing with that pressure off the field and it doesn't bother him too much.
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Post by john4 on Feb 2, 2023 13:22:17 GMT
Just got round to watching the Joe Canning Laochra Gael Documentary on the TG4 player. First and foremost it is a fantastically put together piece of television with some excellent shots of Joe Cannings best moments, cut with comments from his opponents, teammates and family. But what really struck me was the similarities between Joe's career and David Clifford. Thankfully the GAA has prevented guys under the age of 17 from playing senior football and hurling these days. Joe was playing Minor Intercounty and Senior Club at 18 years of age. He was playing u21 club hurling at 13. I'd imagine David would have been in the same position if the rules hadn't been amended. He spoke of the immense pressure to perform for Galway, and while he always delivered in the field, off the field this pressure was a massive burden on him. I'm not sure what can be done for the likes of David to ensure that he doesn't have to endure the same sort of pressure. Like Joe he always delivers, especially when the pressure is highest. I'd just worry that it would weigh on him off the field. Winning an All Ireland 4 years into his Intercounty career might lesson the burden a bit. Joe had to wait 10 or 11 years for his day to come. A lot of it comes down to an individuals personality too. David strikes me as someone who is not fazed by anything and someone who barely even acknowledges the hype machine around him. It reminds me of some anecdotes about the contrasting outlooks of the Golden Era team: Was it Mikey Sheehy or Spillane who talked about always being a bag of nerves running onto Croke Park for an All Ireland final and one time being driven demented because John Egan sauntered over to them just before the throw-in enquiring where he thought the team would be heading for a few pints after the game! That's all that was worry John! I remember hearing Jacko speak once about how he always roomed with Jimmy Deenihan and Jimmy's attitude was a model of sports psychology. The morning of one AL final Jimmy opened the room curtain to see the sun shinning bright and started telling Jacko how this was perfect for a defender like himself, how in weather like this he knew he'd thrive and have the beating of his man that day. Next year Jimmy looks out the window to see it teeming rain and turns to Jacko and starts talking about how a day like this is perfect for his game, that he's best on a wet ball, and how his opponent won't have the stomach for a dirty day like it is They we're different times though, when all footballers or people in general had to concern themselves with was the people in front of them at a particular time. We're in a different era now though of 24/7 social media coverage of top footballers and hurlers every act. I'd imagine it'd be incredibly intense for a person who just might not have the tools to deal with it. And the general public or the media companies won't care whether a guy is able mentally for all this exposure, so it really is a very important subject.
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Post by southward on Feb 2, 2023 19:20:23 GMT
Not to forget AOM on Laochra Gael tonight at 9.30.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 2, 2023 20:06:15 GMT
Not to forget AOM on Laochra Gael tonight at 9.30. Really looking forward to it, One of the unsung heros of the 2000s Marked 2 of the best players Mcdonald and Murphy out of two finals.
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Post by southward on Feb 2, 2023 20:17:40 GMT
Not to forget AOM on Laochra Gael tonight at 9.30. Really looking forward to it, One of the unsung heros of the 2000s Marked 2 of the best players Mcdonald and Murphy out of two finals. Outscored McDonald as well 2-1.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 2, 2023 20:28:33 GMT
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Post by thehermit on Feb 2, 2023 22:43:42 GMT
AOM some baller!
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 2, 2023 22:45:40 GMT
Well that was emotional.
Well done Aidan for your wonderful career but also for your honesty and courage in speaking about mental health.
I'm sure young people could really benefit from watching that show.
Kerry legend.
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Post by decondd2 on Feb 3, 2023 8:02:19 GMT
The only thing I was disappointed in with the Laochra Gael last night was that they had no footage from my favourite Aidan O'Mahoney game in Limerick in 2014 against Mayo. Where he ran himself to a standstill and had to be physically lifted off the field in Extra time with both legs locked from cramp. Epitomised his warrior mentality on the field that day. m.psecn.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000lf5aX.tZvf0/s/750/36-S-Kerry-v-Mayo-JM-5539.jpg
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Feb 3, 2023 8:35:42 GMT
Good listen and in fairness to him, he does great coverage on Kerry GAA. Well worth a follow on Twitter aswell
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Post by horsebox77 on Feb 3, 2023 8:56:12 GMT
Tg4 are excellent for their shows. Very enjoyable programme. As the years go by you could easily forget that Aidan was a brilliant player too. Not just a teak tough tackling back but loads of football in him and like us all very breakable inside. Watched it on the Plus when the shift finish, fairly captivating, in fairness he always comes across as very genuine and just a lad you want to have in your corner. Played against him a few times, and yes people have the misconception of just this hard man, but he was a serious baller, good hands, comfortable on both feet, could play anywhere on the spine - as comfortable at FF and Centre Back. It's just a pity he didn't get five minutes in the Club Final in Croker...would have been a fitting conclusion,
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Post by glengael on Feb 3, 2023 10:35:46 GMT
It was an excellent programme. They really need the hour to do justice to each player. A few years back they reduced it to 30 mins and the quality suffered badly.
To be honest I thought Aidan was gone after 2009, the way he had fallen down the pecking order. I was unaware of why he left the panel in 2010 but it goes to show how little we know as spectators about what is really going on for any player. It was lucky for him (and for us) that he left the panel and gave himself time and space to receive help.
It was such a pleasure to meet him at a club event at Christmas 2014, with his clubmen and rising stars Paul Murphy and Shane Ryan, and have them autograph jerseys and posters.
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Post by blacksheep21 on Feb 3, 2023 20:10:23 GMT
The facebook algorithm is as accurate as ever!
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 3, 2023 22:32:28 GMT
It was an excellent programme. They really need the hour to do justice to each player. A few years back they reduced it to 30 mins and the quality suffered badly. To be honest I thought Aidan was gone after 2009, the way he had fallen down the pecking order. I was unaware of why he left the panel in 2010 but it goes to show how little we know as spectators about what is really going on for any player. It was lucky for him (and for us) that he left the panel and gave himself time and space to receive help. It was such a pleasure to meet him at a club event at Christmas 2014, with his clubmen and rising stars Paul Murphy and Shane Ryan, and have them autograph jerseys and posters. IMO we know little about what goes on in our own auld hids. AO'M awesome, that pic of him being lifted off in Limerick is a Rathmórhoor. Remember how he toughened up when he came back, leaner - long toothed observers had never seen the likes, some thought he was physically weakened, and then ...
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 3, 2023 22:49:46 GMT
Im not a regular on Facebook but I have a look a few times a week. I just came across an article from the Donegal Democrat from a fella called Shea and he scathing of Jack's post match comments using the slogan "Jack was put back in his box". Reading a few comments a few saying Kerry are bad losers and can't stand losing to Northern teams etc. Hopefully from now on Jack stays stum and concentrates on the team. They'd say that anyway Mick. Regardless of what Jack says.
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Post by southward on Feb 6, 2023 13:42:45 GMT
Just scan aside on gaa pundits. Nowadays many becoming like the English soccer pundits and judge everything on one game. Even our own Darran Ó Sullivan last week predicting Tyrone to be relegated after their first game. Things can change. In fact the worst team last week was Kerry but this week we look the best. On the league I think this year could be the best battle in the league for years. Monaghan and Rossies were favs for the drop but its going to be a close league. Head to heads and scoring difference could come into it. My own view the drop will be between Monaghan Donegal and Galway. Monaghan & Donegal look odds-on already. Ok, Donegal nicked it last week but really we beat ourselves and I wouldn't be surprised if it's the only points they get.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 6, 2023 13:57:21 GMT
Just scan aside on gaa pundits. Nowadays many becoming like the English soccer pundits and judge everything on one game. Even our own Darran Ó Sullivan last week predicting Tyrone to be relegated after their first game. Things can change. In fact the worst team last week was Kerry but this week we look the best. On the league I think this year could be the best battle in the league for years. Monaghan and Rossies were favs for the drop but its going to be a close league. Head to heads and scoring difference could come into it. My own view the drop will be between Monaghan Donegal and Galway. Monaghan & Donegal look odds-on already. Ok, Donegal nicked it last week but really we beat ourselves and I wouldn't be surprised if it's the only points they get. I'd agree, And I'll have no sympathy for Paddy Carr after those comments last week.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 6, 2023 14:12:25 GMT
Interesting Kerry are the only side with no goals conceded in D1.
Albeit against two of the weaker sides it's good to see that consistency from last year. It's a very good habit.
Is it just me or has Tadgh Morely grown into a fantastic footballer.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 6, 2023 15:57:13 GMT
Interesting Kerry are the only side with no goals conceded in D1. Albeit against two of the weaker sides it's good to see that consistency from last year. It's a very good habit. Is it just me or has Tadgh Morely grown into a fantastic footballer. On Paddy Carrs comments I agree but as I've said before he only retorted to Jack's comments. I'm sure Donegals fans don't have any time for Jack now either. On Morley yes I think now he might be the best CB in the country and maybe Foley the best fb. With respect Mick, Jack gave an honest answer which happened to he correct. A wide ball given as a point in D1 shouldn't happen. I accept its part of the game but when you lose by 1 it stings a bit more. Paddy retorted with a smart ass comment about Jack getting a lot of luck last year. That's a petty comment and one I hope comes back to bite him.
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Post by blacksheep21 on Feb 6, 2023 18:53:20 GMT
On Paddy Carrs comments I agree but as I've said before he only retorted to Jack's comments. I'm sure Donegals fans don't have any time for Jack now either. On Morley yes I think now he might be the best CB in the country and maybe Foley the best fb. With respect Mick, Jack gave an honest answer which happened to he correct. A wide ball given as a point in D1 shouldn't happen. I accept its part of the game but when you lose by 1 it stings a bit more. Paddy retorted with a smart ass comment about Jack getting a lot of luck last year. That's a petty comment and one I hope comes back to bite him. Jack was complaining about more than that decision though. He made it a broader point about not getting decisions away from home which is where he left himself open in my view.
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Post by hurlingman on Feb 11, 2023 10:23:22 GMT
Good to see Valentia are returning to the county league this year.
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Post by thehermit on Feb 11, 2023 10:48:42 GMT
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 11, 2023 19:29:58 GMT
Great to see two Annascaul lads on opposing sides in Sigerson final.
It'll be like the Wind that Shakes the Barley.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 11, 2023 19:56:27 GMT
Great to see two Annascaul lads on opposing sides in Sigerson final. It'll be like the Wind that Shakes the Barley. 🤣🤣
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Post by thehermit on Feb 16, 2023 9:15:48 GMT
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 16, 2023 9:58:09 GMT
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Post by jackiel on Feb 16, 2023 11:23:55 GMT
Not just Tyrone but they're the kings of it. They come down to Croke Park and start fighting with you from the gate. they think we're all out to thwart them and we make rules purely to upset them. I've had many run ins with Tyrone teams and supporters in my role as a steward. League Finals 2016 I was put sitting with the Tyrone team , one of the players took grave exception to the number of bannners hanging from the stands for the 1916 commemoration, - look at that he says, they haven't got 32 flags up, they always exclude The North. I counted the banners, there weren't even 26 but it's easier to assume that everyone is against you.
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Post by thehermit on Feb 18, 2023 11:59:11 GMT
Jarlath Burns the new El Presidente, thoughts?
He talks a good game, I do think the Association is desperately in need of a figurehead who might have the where to pluck a few nettle.
Was disappointed Liam Griffin's proposal didn't get the required support.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 18, 2023 12:40:04 GMT
Jarlath Burns the new El Presidente, thoughts? He talks a good game, I do think the Association is desperately in need of a figurehead who might have the where to pluck a few nettle. Was disappointed Liam Griffin's proposal didn't get the required support. I personally think Griffin's proposal was flawed in that it was trying to use legislation to create talent. There are ways of nurturing it that could be worked on but coercion would be an embarrassment, not least to tender minds.
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