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Post by powerhurl on Feb 3, 2024 10:04:32 GMT
Also jason Diggins.Eoin Ross to name just a couple . Why is the appetite not there to play with the county
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Post by hurlingman on Feb 3, 2024 12:42:04 GMT
Lot of outside lads involved this year.
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Post by southward on Feb 3, 2024 12:55:08 GMT
Is there a full panel published anywhere? Is there a reason why Cillian Trant isn’t involved? Thought he was on the panel, assume he must be injured. Fine hurler and footballer. Jack could do worse if he isn't involved with the small ball.
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Post by kerryexile5 on Feb 4, 2024 1:26:44 GMT
Also jason Diggins.Eoin Ross to name just a couple . Why is the appetite not there to play with the county Commitment levels nowadays are huge for Inter county players. The squad at the minute is nowhere near Kerry’s best hurling team. Also I did hear a few lads hated Molumphy style of hurling, 4 forwards against 6 backs and sweepers etc.
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Post by legendz on Feb 4, 2024 16:06:45 GMT
Tough game today but hopefully a lesson learned in the long run. Only converted 50% of their chances in comparison with Carlow who converted 75%. Obvious area of improvement to close the gap. Kerry cannot be relegated from 2A this year. Might be best to utilise the opportunity to build the squad before aiming to retain McDonagh status at the very least.
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Post by thehermit on Feb 4, 2024 16:11:53 GMT
I'm sorry but it's not acceptable to be losing at home by that kind of score to the likes of Carlow. Really disappointing start to our League and looks like it's going to be a tough old slog now this year.
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Post by powerhurl on Feb 4, 2024 17:38:29 GMT
I would agree we should not be losing at home like that to carlow. For some reason too many players are not buying into the molomphy regime with all the absentees.No fault of the men that played today. Mackessy 'Daithi Griffin and Maurice o Connor were Kerrys best in my opinion.
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Post by edgeofthesquare on Feb 4, 2024 18:01:21 GMT
Where was Luke Crowley today wasn’t in the 26, injured?
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Post by kerryexile5 on Feb 5, 2024 1:58:50 GMT
Kerry: JB O’Halloran; B Murphy, T O’Connor, E Leen; J Diggins, F Mackessy, M Leane; B Barrett, P O’Connor; S Conway, S Nolan, M O’Leary; D Collins, M Boyle, M O’Connor.
Subs: B O’Mahony for M O’Connor (42); P Boyle for P O’Connor (49); C Harty for M Boyle (55); B O’Leary for Barrett (60).
I count 12 players opted out since the above Joe McDonagh final alone in 2020 and 4 other panelist’s from 2023 brings the total to 16.
If 16 players left the Kerry football panel, well it just wouldn’t happen.
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Post by hurlingman on Feb 5, 2024 7:48:07 GMT
Kerry: JB O’Halloran; B Murphy, T O’Connor, E Leen; J Diggins, F Mackessy, M Leane; B Barrett, P O’Connor; S Conway, S Nolan, M O’Leary; D Collins, M Boyle, M O’Connor. Subs: B O’Mahony for M O’Connor (42); P Boyle for P O’Connor (49); C Harty for M Boyle (55); B O’Leary for Barrett (60). I count 12 players opted out since the above Joe McDonagh final alone in 2020 and 4 other panelist’s from 2023 brings the total to 16. If 16 players left the Kerry football panel, well it just wouldn’t happen. Bar Mikey Boyle most are still relevantly young. Imo after last year it was clear Molumphy wasn't going to bring things forward yet the CB took the easy option to reappoint him for another season. Lads for many different reasons don't want to commit to intercounty, and that's not just in Kerry, but 16 players to go in the space of four years is huge amount.
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Post by powerhurl on Feb 5, 2024 9:15:51 GMT
Was Shane conway injured yesterday? What are our chances with the long trip up to play down?
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Post by kerryexile5 on Feb 5, 2024 9:37:26 GMT
Kerry: JB O’Halloran; B Murphy, T O’Connor, E Leen; J Diggins, F Mackessy, M Leane; B Barrett, P O’Connor; S Conway, S Nolan, M O’Leary; D Collins, M Boyle, M O’Connor. Subs: B O’Mahony for M O’Connor (42); P Boyle for P O’Connor (49); C Harty for M Boyle (55); B O’Leary for Barrett (60). I count 12 players opted out since the above Joe McDonagh final alone in 2020 and 4 other panelist’s from 2023 brings the total to 16. If 16 players left the Kerry football panel, well it just wouldn’t happen. Bar Mikey Boyle most are still relevantly young. Imo after last year it was clear Molumphy wasn't going to bring things forward yet the CB took the easy option to reappoint him for another season. Lads for many different reasons don't want to commit to intercounty, and that's not just in Kerry, but 16 players to go in the space of four years is huge amount. Was it against Offaly last year Kerry played with 3 sweepers? I would imagine there would be a decent sized turnaround in panels of the second & Third tier football & hurling counties but not to the same amount Kerry hurlers have had since 2020. That team that took to the field v Carlow is a second string Kerry team sprinkled with some very good hurlers.
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Post by hurlingman on Feb 5, 2024 15:30:15 GMT
Bar Mikey Boyle most are still relevantly young. Imo after last year it was clear Molumphy wasn't going to bring things forward yet the CB took the easy option to reappoint him for another season. Lads for many different reasons don't want to commit to intercounty, and that's not just in Kerry, but 16 players to go in the space of four years is huge amount. Was it against Offaly last year Kerry played with 3 sweepers? I would imagine there would be a decent sized turnaround in panels of the second & Third tier football & hurling counties but not to the same amount Kerry hurlers have had since 2020. That team that took to the field v Carlow is a second string Kerry team sprinkled with some very good hurlers. I think you're right about that. I think it's lucky Kerry can't be relegated this year because it could be a real struggle in the league this year.
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Post by northside on Feb 5, 2024 23:19:04 GMT
Also worrying to note that there is no sign of Jordan Conway in a Kerry jersey in 2024 so far, is he injured or opted out of the panel?
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Post by mossie on Feb 6, 2024 1:35:48 GMT
Also worrying to note that there is no sign of Jordan Conway in a Kerry jersey in 2024 so far, is he injured or opted out of the panel? I think he is studying in the U.K.
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Post by mossie on Feb 6, 2024 1:43:16 GMT
For all the talk of turnover of players, only 2 of the kerry starting 15 on sunday were making their league debuts. John B OHallaron, Daniel Collins, Sean Weir, the Boyles all gave serious service to kerry hurlers and are of an age where you would be expecting them to move on. Eoin Ross is in his prime and is gone travelling no different to Jack Barry in football
Replacing these guys all in the one season is a tall order as kerry hurling does not have that depth
The loss of Luke Crowley and Shane Conway through injury robbed Kerry of attacking flair on sunday and if this pair arent back soon well then you would worry even more. The lack of ball winners in the forwards and the kerry style of play that leaves 2 small players isolated in the full forward line remains a big issue.
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Post by mossie on Feb 6, 2024 1:45:44 GMT
Kerry: JB O’Halloran; B Murphy, T O’Connor, E Leen; J Diggins, F Mackessy, M Leane; B Barrett, P O’Connor; S Conway, S Nolan, M O’Leary; D Collins, M Boyle, M O’Connor. Subs: B O’Mahony for M O’Connor (42); P Boyle for P O’Connor (49); C Harty for M Boyle (55); B O’Leary for Barrett (60). I count 12 players opted out since the above Joe McDonagh final alone in 2020 and 4 other panelist’s from 2023 brings the total to 16. If 16 players left the Kerry football panel, well it just wouldn’t happen. Bar Mikey Boyle most are still relevantly young. Imo after last year it was clear Molumphy wasn't going to bring things forward yet the CB took the easy option to reappoint him for another season. Lads for many different reasons don't want to commit to intercounty, and that's not just in Kerry, but 16 players to go in the space of four years is huge amount. The loss of the Boyle's and the O'Learys as physical ball winners in the forwards is just killing Kerry
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Post by kerryexile5 on Feb 7, 2024 19:39:29 GMT
Any truth in the rumour Fionan Mackassey is transferring to Kilkenny senior hurling club O Loughlin Gaels??
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Post by powerhurl on Feb 8, 2024 7:29:29 GMT
Didnt hear anything about Mackessy . Big game on saturday .Kerry really need the win . Eoghan Sands is supposedly out for Down . Hopefully Conway is back.
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Post by northside on Feb 9, 2024 9:35:09 GMT
Big game tomorrow in Ballycran. A lot will depend on the availability of Shane Conway. Don’t underestimate this Down team, Daithi Sands, Eoghan Sands and Pearse Òg McCrickard all highly regarded hurlers that will take watching. They came close to overcoming Laois last weekend level with a few minutes to go before Laois pulled away to win with a few points to spare.
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Post by horsebox77 on Feb 9, 2024 12:45:33 GMT
Is Luke Crowley togging with hurlers,
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Post by allrounder on Feb 9, 2024 13:09:14 GMT
Is Luke Crowley togging with hurlers, Injured
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Post by southward on Feb 9, 2024 23:13:57 GMT
Shane Conway is out for tomorrow.
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Post by legendz on Feb 10, 2024 14:44:09 GMT
Half time Kerry: 1-15(18) Down: 0-11(11)
Full time Kerry: 1-19(22) Down: 2-23(29)
A disappointing loss away to Down.
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Post by powerhurl on Feb 10, 2024 17:11:32 GMT
Yes something clearly looks to be off .why are so many players not commiting . Either way it looks like Molomphys reign is over this season but will Kerry job be attractive with question marks over commitmemt in future
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Post by kerryexile5 on Feb 11, 2024 7:48:55 GMT
Kerry hurling is clearly regressing under present management.Now while I dont believe in player power there are too many top Kerry hurlers that dont want to play under the current management and surely that has to be looked at. Molumphy should have never got another year, the players clearly don’t believe he is up to inter county management standard and once that happens he needed to walk away. I am starting to think Kerry might not win a game this year under this incompetent management team??
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Post by hurlingman on Feb 11, 2024 9:55:16 GMT
Kerry hurling is clearly regressing under present management.Now while I dont believe in player power there are too many top Kerry hurlers that dont want to play under the current management and surely that has to be looked at. Molumphy should have never got another year, the players clearly don’t believe he is up to inter county management standard and once that happens he needed to walk away. I am starting to think Kerry might not win a game this year under this incompetent management team?? As I've said before it was an easy option for the CB to just give him another year. The reality is that he probably shouldn't have been given the job in the first place as he'd no experience. This season already looks like it's a write off and it's only two games into the league. Where Kerry are going to go it's hard to see but the pressure is really going to be on come championship time.
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Post by powerhurl on Feb 11, 2024 10:55:30 GMT
Is it possible Molomphy and his managment could walk or even get the push
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Post by veteran on Feb 11, 2024 11:40:35 GMT
I have written here before of my inability to understand this obsession with outside mangers. Most of these are only have gun will travel merchants , using Kerry as their apprenticeship period . If ever anybody needed evidence of this they need only recall when Brendan Cummins, assistant manger at the time?, rather than fulfilling his role on an important match day for Kerry decided to collect his stipend from RTÉ as a match analyst. That is passion for Kerry hurling for you!
Surely there are knowledgeable hurling men in the heartland of Kerry hurling country who would be capable and willing to undertake the role rather than paying top dollar to these journeymen. I suppose it is a case of no man being a prophet in his own land.
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Post by legendz on Feb 11, 2024 12:28:32 GMT
Is it possible Molomphy and his managment could walk or even get the push Depends on how much weight is put on being in "transition". There is no relegation from 2A this year. If the CB accept SM is building for the championship, he'll remain. If there's concerns over McDonagh status, a decision had to be made.
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