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Post by wideball on Nov 11, 2018 21:18:58 GMT
Sunday 18th November St.Senans Vs Finuge Venue: Tarbert @ 2.30pm
Sunday 25th November Ballyduff vs Ballydonoghue Venue: Ballybunion @ 2.30pm
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Post by statistician on Nov 11, 2018 21:23:09 GMT
Sponsored by McMunn's Bar and Restaurant Ballybunion - 2018 Bernard O'Callaghan Memorial North Kerry Senior Football Championship Semi Final:
Finuge V St. Senans Date: Sunday 18th November Venue: Tarbert Time: 2.30 PM
This game will be replayed in the event of a draw.
Sponsored by McMunn's Bar and Restaurant Ballybunion - 2018 Bernard O'Callaghan Memorial North Kerry Senior Football Championship Semi Final:
Ballyduff V Ballydonoghue Date: Sunday 25th November Venue: Ballybunion Time: 2.30 PM
This game will be replayed in the event of a draw.
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Post by mossie on Nov 11, 2018 21:50:12 GMT
thanks for the reports veteran
seems a good championship this year. unsure why both semi finals cant be next weekend?!
St Senans and Ballydonoghue be favourites but write Finuge and the Duffers off at your peril
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Post by Ballyfireside on Nov 11, 2018 22:42:46 GMT
Ballyd were long written off at peoples' peril, pity Vet didn't make it to Duagh but hopefully he'll travel to the milder seaside clime on the 25th.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 12, 2018 9:55:46 GMT
St. Senans 2-10 Castleisland 2-7 HT 1-7 1-3 It was cold and miserable and damp today in Finuge but in spite of that we got another exciting instalment of the North Kerry championship. Danger man Thomas Hickey did not appear for the Desmonds. He could have made the difference. Castleisland started off the brighter and Senans were badly opened up by a swift movement and Sean Lynch, a handful all through, finished clinically to the net. Shortly afterwards full forward, Tommy Walsh, scored a fine point. This left Senans four adrift and more ominous than that they just looked very sluggish with none of the panache on evidence that they displayed against Listowel. However, gradually they began to get a grip, driven on by Sean T. Dillon at CHB, inspirational all through. Up front , Sean Weir, a relentless menace as always. Paudie Quille and Sean O'Connell became involved and such was their influence that it was no surprise when Mark Behan was at the end of a slick move to finish home. The Half Way boys finished three to the good at the break and looked to be exerting a stranglehold on the game. This impression was reinforced early in the second half. Sean O'Connel won possession out in the left wing, made tracks along the sideline, seemed to be going up a cul-de-sac, then his supreme skill enabled him to cut inside along the end line, he slung it across the goal and ? Mark Behan flicked it in. It was a superhuman effort by Sean and , appropriately, it looked as if it would seal the issue as it put them six or seven up. However, at this stage St. Senans seemed to get stuck in neutral. Barry Lynch, Luka Brosnan, very impressive all through, Sean Lynch and Tommy Brosnan would not go home. They kept battering at the door and eventually sub, Maurice O'Connell, scored a goal and shortly afterwards Tommy Walsh shot straight and through to , unbelievably, leave just one point between them. Tommy, according to my calculations, scored four from play and three from frees. With a point between them it was hell for leather, Castleisland looking for the elusive eqauliser and Senans looking for the insurance score. Feverish and frantic now, it was Senans who lifted themselves for possible future immortality. Sean O'Connell, David Foran and Paudie Quille kicked immaculately over the bar to ensure a safe harbour with Castleisland only able to notch one. Well worth the eight euro entrance fee. P.S. It was my plan to head for Daugh afterwards to witness Ballydonoghue and Brosna. The teeth were chattering so reluctantly I headed for sweet home to observe the demolition job perpetrated by Dr. Crokes. Veteran...did Barry O'Mahony feature for St Senans
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 12, 2018 9:58:18 GMT
Finuge v St Senans will surely raise the tempo a bit. Are there clearly defined lines where one clubs territory meets the other.
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Post by veteran on Nov 12, 2018 10:58:43 GMT
Mickmack,
Barry O’Mahony did play and as always was a significant figure. I am a big fan but it would appear that hurling is his first love. By all accounts he was too good for Shane Conway in the recent u21 final when Crotta beat Lixnaw.
You are right about the tempo being raised for this impending fixture. The rivalry here can be bitter and the hope is that players and mentors alike behave themselves in a civilised fashion.
I can understand the anxiety of the NKB to spread the games around but fixing this match for Tarbert means that all the traffic will be travelling along the same artery . Parking could be chaotic . It will mean that anybody attending should be prepared for a long walk from car to field.
I am not sure of the boundary between these clubs. For instance, St . Senans playing pitch is in Mountcoal. Eamonn Breen is from Mountcoal. I am not sure how Eamon finished up playing with Finuge. Perhaps , somebody else on this Forum has a better insight into these matters.
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Post by MeathExile on Nov 12, 2018 11:28:18 GMT
Thanks for the report again Veteran - much appreciated by those of us who cant be there.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 12, 2018 12:26:45 GMT
thanks Veteran
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Post by mandad on Nov 12, 2018 17:37:31 GMT
Finuge v St Senans will surely raise the tempo a bit. Are there clearly defined lines where one clubs territory meets the other. Finuge, in the Parish of Lixnaw, is an area about four miles from Lixnaw village and roughly the same from Listowel. The club is a bit unique in that it straddles two parishes, draws its players from both Listowel and Lixnaw parishes and the hurling clubs of Lixnaw and Crotta. This was made possible by an agreement with the Co. Board under a bye-law back in the early 1960’s. St. Senans, also in the Parish of Lixnaw, draws its players from the Mountcoal/Rathea/ Crotta/Kilflynn area. There are no clearly defined boundaries and there have been many instances of disagreement and crossover. The issue is further complicated by the hurling club of Crotta O’Neills, which is itself a club of two parishes, Kilflynn and Lixnaw. There is nothing in place, that I’m aware of, that precludes any player from Lixnaw, Crotta or Kilflynn from playing with either club. There are no clearly defined boundaries and there have been many instances of disagreement and crossover down through the years. Some players from the same town's lands played with different clubs and needless to say the rivalry has been intense down through the years. Nevertheless, both clubs have obviously found a way to co-exist in some degree of harmony over the years. Still a game not to be missed!
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Post by statistician on Nov 12, 2018 17:50:14 GMT
2018 North Kerry Senior Football Championship Outright Betting:
4/5 Ballydonoghue 7/4 St. Senans 9/2 Ballyduff 7/1 Finuge
Match Betting on 1st Semi Final:
1/4 St. Senans 3/1 Finuge 8/1 draw
Match Betting on 2nd Semi Final:
2/5 Ballydonoghue 9/4 Ballyduff 13/2 draw
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Post by southward on Nov 12, 2018 19:15:51 GMT
Mickmack, Barry O’Mahony did play and as always was a significant figure. I am a big fan but it would appear that hurling is his first love. By all accounts he was too good for Shane Conway in the recent u21 final when Crotta beat Lixnaw. You are right about the tempo being raised for this impending fixture. The rivalry here can be bitter and the hope is that players and mentors alike behave themselves in a civilised fashion. I can understand the anxiety of the NKB to spread the games around but fixing this match for Tarbert means that all the traffic will be travelling along the same artery . Parking could be chaotic . It will mean that anybody attending should be prepared for a long walk from car to field.
I am not sure of the boundary between these clubs. For instance, St . Senans playing pitch is in Mountcoal. Eamonn Breen is from Mountcoal. I am not sure how Eamon finished up playing with Finuge. Perhaps , somebody else on this Forum has a better insight into these matters. Crazy decision. Tarbert, while not an epic journey, is one of the furthest grounds from both clubs. Listowel is the obvious choice to host this one - 10 minutes from either club and with plenty of parking and other facilities. Also with a much bigger potential neutral support base. These factors will impact the attendance, especially if the weather looks any way dodgy.
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Post by wideball on Nov 12, 2018 20:18:16 GMT
I imagine listowel is being kept for the final at this stage
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Post by mossie on Nov 12, 2018 20:19:36 GMT
Veteran
With respect to your questions on the boundary between Finuge and Senans , best of luck with that one!
Mandad has given a good stab at it in fairness
Over the years lads who play hurling with Crotta O'Neills play football with St Senans and lads who play hurling with Lixnaw play football with Finuge
Yet there are some exceptions in that you will find the odd one over the years who hurled with Lixnaw and played football with Senans , likewise the odd one who played hurling with Crotta and football with Finuge!!!
The late great Todd Nolan was a Crotta hurling great but played football with Finuge playing football with his main hurling rivals!!His nephew Shane Nolan is now a Crotta hurling great and a Senans footballer. You will find other examples
Lixnaw parish effectively has 4 GAA clubs, 2 hurling 2 football, massive parish
Great sporting area all in all
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 12, 2018 22:04:13 GMT
there was a similar discussion about 5 years ago and one poster lamented that Paul Galvin hurled with Lixnaw yet he is "from Ballinclogher in Abbeydorney parish and he had to cross two rivers to get to Lixnaw GÀA pitch".
The brexit backstop is simple by comparison
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Post by mossie on Nov 12, 2018 22:44:42 GMT
there was a similar discussion about 5 years ago and one poster lamented that Paul Galvin hurled with Lixnaw yet he is "from Ballinclogher in Abbeydorney parish and he had to cross two rivers to get to Lixnaw GÀA pitch". The brexit backstop is simple by comparison Jez is Ballinclogher in Abbeydorney? always associated it with Lixnaw parish Bet Abbeydorney wish they had Galvin. He came off the bench for Lixnaw the Sunday after the 2005 All Ireland football turned the game for Lixnaw and scored the equalising point in injury time to deny Abbeydorney their first hurling title in over 30 years. Paul and Enda Galvin shot a heap of points in the replay which Lixnaw won handy
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Post by glengael on Nov 16, 2018 10:58:35 GMT
That programme on TG4 on Wednesday night highlighted the plight of Ballylongford, falling population, no children starting in the national school in 2017, lack of services/employment- issues we've discussed many times on here in relation to peripheral areas usually, though not always, in South Kerry. It was a credit to them that they had a team in this year's NK championship.
Finding out that Ballinclogher is in Abbeydorney parish is a bit like finding out that Romeo was in fact a Capulet all along.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Nov 16, 2018 12:10:17 GMT
That programme on TG4 on Wednesday night highlighted the plight of Ballylongford, falling population, no children starting in the national school in 2017, lack of services/employment- issues we've discussed many times on here in relation to peripheral areas usually, though not always, in South Kerry. It was a credit to them that they had a team in this year's NK championship. Finding out that Ballinclogher is in Abbeydorney parish is a bit like finding out that Romeo was in fact a Capulet all along. Slaughtneil are a case study in how a rural community should take care of itself.
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Post by homerj on Nov 17, 2018 0:16:16 GMT
That programme on TG4 on Wednesday night highlighted the plight of Ballylongford, falling population, no children starting in the national school in 2017, lack of services/employment- issues we've discussed many times on here in relation to peripheral areas usually, though not always, in South Kerry. It was a credit to them that they had a team in this year's NK championship. Finding out that Ballinclogher is in Abbeydorney parish is a bit like finding out that Romeo was in fact a Capulet all along. Wow didnt realise things were that bad 🤐
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Post by veteran on Nov 18, 2018 17:18:55 GMT
St. Senans 3-9 Finuge 1-9 HT 3-4 1-5
After St. Senans got their second gosl via Jason Browne in the first half, there was never a doubt about the outcome. Finuge, playing against the cross field breeze in that half, looked more confident and inventive early on. Early points were exchanged but then calamity for St. Senans. A high ball was dropped by one of their full backs. This was gratefully gathered by Ricky Hefferan and finished to the net. A four point lead was now established by Finuge. Historically Finuge have had the better of their neighbours and one wondered if the weight of that burden would impede the Senan boys. They may entertained those bad thoughts for all of thirty seconds and then got about their business. Bill Keane, James O'Donnell and Sean T. Dillon erected an impenetrable screen at the back, Damien Somers and Barry O'Mahony busied themselves at midfield while up front Jason Broiwne, Sean O'Connell and Paudie Quille gave hints that Finuge's defence, in spite of the defiance of Pat Corridan and Brian McAuliffe, could be profitably exploited. An indication of the resistance mounted by St. Senans was demonstrated by Sean T., as always a commanding powerhouse at CHB, who went on a solo run close by the sdieline. He was met by an unmerciful shoulder from John Buckley but the Finuge was put back on his backside.
That incident ignited St. Senans, players and supporters alike and they proceeded to dazzle up front and the goals flowed from Paudie Quille, Jason Brown and David Foran.All impressively struck. A goal at this time of the year can be lethal but conceding three means that you are engaging in a dance of death without reprieve.
The quality in the second half deteriorated and indeed long before the finish one got the impression Finuge were wising for the final whistle. A notable feature of the second half was the introduction by Finuge at wing forward of a promising debutant, Paul Galvin!. How did the once great man do? Well, clearly St. Senans were anticipating this move and instantly they deployed Barry O'Mahony to chaperone Paul. With every respect to Paul this became a good night Irene situation, or more precisely good night Paul. Barry simply dominated his man and an area of several acres in his vicinity. Invincible. Memo to Peter Keane- use all your persuasive powers to enrol this young boy to the cause.
Incidentally, St. Senans introduced their own inhabitant from Tir Na nOg, Breandain Whelan. It is no exaggeration to say that this young old man made a far greater impact than Paul. But then he was not being marked by anybody approaching Barry's ability. Both sides exchanged points in a low level second half. Finuge were very blunt up front where they had nobody of, for instance, the class of Sean O'Connell who effortlessly displays a range of skills which is very difficult to contain.
I feel I must comment on the referee who insisted on blowing for the most innocuous of challenges in a game , which in spite of the rivalry, exhibited little bitterness.
So. St. Senans advance to their second final in three years and accordingly remain with a chance of capturing their maiden title. Today, they glittered at times and were sloppy at times. More glitter and less sloppiness will be needed on the big day.
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Post by MeathExile on Nov 18, 2018 19:14:23 GMT
Thanks yet again Veteran- mush appreciated here in the Royal county.Good to see that Barry O Mahony is doing well - we need these young lads to kick on at county level.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Nov 18, 2018 20:26:56 GMT
The only thing I would question re Vets otherwise impeccable report (as usual) is if the refs approach eliminated any nonsense? We will never know and 'tis certainly a fine line that a ref lives on.
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Post by An Bradán on Nov 18, 2018 20:53:23 GMT
I was in the vicinity and it was a lovely day so I went to this game.
I'd pretty much go along with Veteran's report but would be more critical of the referee who had a really poor game. The standard of refereeing in this competition in general is well below par. Don't just take my opinion for it. I doubt many would disagree.
St.Senans were well worth their victory. They were faster around the pitch,deadlier up front and their sideline seemed to make all the right calls. Mark Burke is the manager, is this correct ?
Finuge are a puzzle. They've some fine young players and compete well enough at youth level but still seem to place all their faith in their veterans. Paul Galvin's introduction actually backfired as he was completely off the pace. Not surprising as he has hardly kicked a ball in a few years. He wasn't alone as a few of their older players really struggled.
It looks like they need a rebuild on the pitch and on the line too.
St.Senans were very good at times but the big question remains. They're fit and well organised but are they good enough to take on the winners of Ballyduff vs Ballydonoghue.
Time will tell.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 18, 2018 21:10:04 GMT
Has a date been set for the final
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Post by boroman68 on Nov 18, 2018 21:33:37 GMT
Fixed for Dec 9th. Time and venue TBC. I hear a few players have college exams starting on the 10th of December so I don't know with that cause a fixture change to be made but it's definatly fixed for the 9th. Rumour has it that it is going to be played in moyvane.
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Post by veteran on Nov 18, 2018 21:33:38 GMT
Final fixed for 09/12/2018.
I was a little surprised that Paul played because I was under the impression that he had transferred to a Dublin club - the club of the Brogans? Must be wrong.
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Post by Joxer on Nov 18, 2018 22:13:53 GMT
He transferred back a few months ago I believe Veteran.
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Post by wideball on Nov 18, 2018 22:52:43 GMT
Was Paul not involve in Finuge's premier junior campaign? Might have been mistaken.
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Post by An Bradán on Nov 18, 2018 23:21:26 GMT
Paul Galvin transferred for a period to St Oliver Plunkett/Eoghan Ruadh in Dublin but returned to Finuge this year I think. He played in the Junior Championship but nothing since then. That was April if I'm correct.
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Post by clubman on Nov 19, 2018 12:43:23 GMT
I might venture up for this one, weather permitting. It would be great to see St Senans winning a first title.
On the subject of Galvin, it must be very disheartening for a young lad who has been training all year to see the championship come along and see his possible few minutes handed over to someone else. In a few short months they will be back training and looking for these very lads to make up the numbers
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