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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jun 24, 2018 19:22:49 GMT
Clifford doesn’t have the pace? Lads are ye ridiculous- he has serious power over 5 yards
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Post by colinsworth1 on Jun 24, 2018 19:35:51 GMT
I was very impressed with Gavin White. The pace in the side is great to see. White was electric comparable to jack Mac for Dublin but the Dublin version. has Licence to score points and goals I’m not sure if White is allowed to do that by our conservative management Even wing forward. Michael Burns seems to have an invisible border beyond which he is not allowed to cross. As he progresses forward . Totally agree White is a revelation ! Let s use him to his full potential no holds barred
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 24, 2018 19:43:53 GMT
I was very impressed with Gavin White. The pace in the side is great to see. White was electric comparable to jack Mac for Dublin but the Dublin version. has Licence to score points and goals I’m not sure if White is allowed to do that by our conservative management Even wing forward. Michael Burns seems to have an invisible border beyond which he is not allowed to cross. As he progresses forward . Totally agree White is a revelation ! Let s use him to his full potential no holds barred This sniping at the management is uncalled for. I heard a Kerry fan actually critise EF as we left the ground. That after a 17 point win. We asked for youth we got it. We asked for pace we got it. We asked for expansive football with less laterial passing. We've got it. I think the achievement of this management team introducing basically a new senior team in 6 months deserve credit for having the courage to do it.
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Post by colinsworth1 on Jun 24, 2018 20:03:04 GMT
Very exciting win last night with great days to look forward to When we win it doesn’t mean we done everything right same as when we lose it doesn’t mean we done everything wrong I’m looking for small margins where we can improve we can’t assume every thing is now honky dory . Management have made huge improvement with much more needed No one knows it better than them .lets start with 8 shots dropped short and go from there .
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Post by kerryexile on Jun 24, 2018 20:24:34 GMT
White was electric comparable to jack Mac for Dublin but the Dublin version. has Licence to score points and goals I’m not sure if White is allowed to do that by our conservative management Even wing forward. Michael Burns seems to have an invisible border beyond which he is not allowed to cross. As he progresses forward . Totally agree White is a revelation ! Let s use him to his full potential no holds barred This sniping at the management is uncalled for. I heard a Kerry fan actually critise EF as we left the ground. That after a 17 point win. We asked for youth we got it. We asked for pace we got it. We asked for expansive football with less laterial passing. We've got it. I think the achievement of this management team introducing basically a new senior team in 6 months deserve credit for having the courage to do it. I agree with you royalkerryfan. Eamonn would not be like that. Also Maurice has a more prominent role this year and I think that is showing. Regarding Clifford having the pace - at corner forward it is not as critical as the wing. He will not be running like Stephen O'Brien did yesterday to score the goal. He either goes up the wing or cuts inside - it is more speed of action than being a sprinter. That will not be a problem.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 24, 2018 21:17:08 GMT
This sniping at the management is uncalled for. I heard a Kerry fan actually critise EF as we left the ground. That after a 17 point win. We asked for youth we got it. We asked for pace we got it. We asked for expansive football with less laterial passing. We've got it. I think the achievement of this management team introducing basically a new senior team in 6 months deserve credit for having the courage to do it. I agree with you royalkerryfan. Eamonn would not be like that. Also Maurice has a more prominent role this year and I think that is showing. Regarding Clifford having the pace - at corner forward it is not as critical as the wing. He will not be running like Stephen O'Brien did yesterday to score the goal. He either goes up the wing or cuts inside - it is more speed of action than being a sprinter. That will not be a problem. For me David just needs to have a little more composure when taking a shot. He tends to rush the kick I think Maurice could really help in this regard. I think he has all the ability to become a really great player over the next few years.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2018 22:03:25 GMT
White was electric comparable to jack Mac for Dublin but the Dublin version. has Licence to score points and goals I’m not sure if White is allowed to do that by our conservative management Even wing forward. Michael Burns seems to have an invisible border beyond which he is not allowed to cross. As he progresses forward . Totally agree White is a revelation ! Let s use him to his full potential no holds barred This sniping at the management is uncalled for. I heard a Kerry fan actually critise EF as we left the ground. That after a 17 point win. We asked for youth we got it. We asked for pace we got it. We asked for expansive football with less laterial passing. We've got it. I think the achievement of this management team introducing basically a new senior team in 6 months deserve credit for having the courage to do it. Amen to that!
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Post by thepope on Jun 24, 2018 22:05:23 GMT
Happy with win v. Cork but, as you'd expect with a young team, plenty to work on after.
Cork only played for 10 mins but scored 2-01 in that time. First goal Murphy was caught on the wrong side, we also had a spare defender at the time who didn't cover Murphy so there's a lesson for two defenders in that.
White, Clifford and O'Shea are very promising. Geaney is playing serious football but O'Donoghue had a poor enough game considering the scores were out there.
Jack Barry is impressive carrying ball in opponents half. David Moran needs to be more selective when he shoots at goal.
I felt we got sloppy, in the second half, with the game over. Some might say that's nit-picking but the Dubs kicked 9 first half wides today and only 1 in the second half. They were obviously scolded at HT even though they were well ahead. That pursuit of perfection is what sets them apart and where we hope to be in the next 2/3 years.
Plenty of positives.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 24, 2018 22:38:25 GMT
A lads DC was phenomenal last night. Some performance from an U19 player in his first senior final.
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Post by kerryexile on Jun 24, 2018 23:03:16 GMT
Was there a man of the match? In the recording after the match Clifford was interviewed and the word congratulations was used at the end giving the impression he would get man of the match in the Sunday night programme.
The discussion tonight was farcical with Tomas flattering the Dubs and Whelan telling us how good we are.
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Post by fealeside on Jun 24, 2018 23:11:42 GMT
A lads DC was phenomenal last night. Some performance from an U19 player in his first senior final. I agree 100%. I think he had a fine game. He is improving all the time. The Super 8's will suit him too in terms of gaining more experience. Can't wait to see him in Croker again as he seems to enjoy playing there 😁 Gavin White has the makings of a super player. Sean O'Shea looks like he has been there forever. His strength and turnover ability are extremely important to us not to mention his accuracy in front of goal and from placed balls. A serious talent. Onwards and upwards lads!
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Post by stevieq on Jun 24, 2018 23:13:33 GMT
Paul Geaney was awarded Man of the Match
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Post by Jo90 on Jun 24, 2018 23:24:36 GMT
Great performance by Kerry, everything you'd want from your team and more. Quality in every position, and all the skills of the game on display. White, Geaney and O'Brien shone brightest I thought.
I really impressed with Clifford also. For a boy of 19 with such a huge profile he did really well in his first Munster final, involved in about 6 points. He's going to fill a panini sticker book with black cards by the time he's done.
I remember lots of bad days in the Old Pairc Ui Chaoimh so to have a red letter day like yesterday is a great start to the new stadium. It's a very nice stadium but it reminds me of North Korea spending billions on nuclear weapons while its people live in abject poverty.
Cork were pathetic - slower, weaker, bad passing, no movement and tactically inept. This is a county with twice as many Gaelic Football clubs as Kerry. You can understand counties like Offaly, Armagh and Meath having peaks and troughs but a county with Corks resources should at worst be competitive every year.
P.S. Respect to Brian Hurley on coming back from such a terrible injury and for a 70 metre defensive run to track Darren O Sullivan and execute a perfect disposessing tackle when Corks hopes of winning were long gone.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 24, 2018 23:44:06 GMT
Kevin McCarthy was very impressive last night. If EF wanted to pick his best 15 from the start the next day, then Kevin would surely start.
But finishing strongly is where its at now so Kevin might not start games.
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Post by An Bradán on Jun 25, 2018 0:22:23 GMT
I always make a point of trying to take in the warm up sessions. Not only are they instructive but also tell you about the mood, focus and priorities of a team.
The Kerry warm up was all football based as usual but performed at a ferocious pace. The balls were moved at lightning speed and the tackling was really hard and aggressive. This is the kind of game based warm up that I love to see. It was clear that Kerry were focussing on a high paced, hard pressing game without the ball and an emphasis on highly skilled fast attacks when in possession.
Cork on the other hand spent quite a significant amount of time doing stuff like kangaroo jumps with resistance bands. They eventually broke off to do some ponderous possession type games. You'd have to wonder really.
I've no idea who the Cork physical trainer is but this is a throwback to the days of Teddy Owens when they spent a lot of time jumping over hurdles and cones without the ball (Billy Morgan era).
The difference in focus is clearly illustrated by this. Cork on the misappliance of sports science. Kerry on ball and game control at a really high pace.
I know Joe O'Connor is only in the job as head of athletic development about 6 months but I feel his influence is already showing. Kerry players were far stronger, faster, more powerful and agile than their Cork counterparts. Indeed they were more of all of those traits than I've ever seen previously. Positive signs for the future.
On an aside I see JOD getting criticised here for his performance. I would argue that we are seeing a more rounded type of performance from him of late. I can't recall him tackling and tracking ever as much in a game (even to our own full back line). He is no longer just a scoring machine. He is now a team player buying into a ferocious work ethic and full 15 defensive plan.
For the opposition kick outs am I right in reading that we attempted to bring all our taller guys (bar DC) out to the 45/midfield area to contest the longer kick. The covering of a short one in the full fwd line was left to the smaller guys. The goalie cracked a number of times with the Kerry presure. There again was a load of vocals from the Kerry players ....and Botty. It's clearly a plan they've worked on.
It was disappointing to concede those two goals but they can be rectified easily. For the first PM was isolated on the edge of the square against a much taller opponent (Mark Collins?). This needs to be watched and covered in future.
For the second PC overcommitted out the pitch and ended up lying injured while Cork kept attacking. This created a 2 v 1 overload which was exploited by Deane as JF was pulled away out to the sideline. Deane just ploughed through the gap before throwing the ball across the square for an easy tap in.
All in all a great win with also plenty to work on but also really encouraging.
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Post by greengold35 on Jun 25, 2018 7:39:26 GMT
I think Joe's influence cannot be underestimated - he is probably one of the best guys in his field ( no pun intended), knows what it takes to have a team ready on the big day - probably one of the most important guys we have taken on board in quite a while.
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Post by veteran on Jun 25, 2018 8:34:04 GMT
Historically, Cork are at their most dangerous when Kerry are raging hot favourites . This allied to their impressive performance against Tipp and that they were playing their first game in their spanking new stadium had a me a little worried about the outcome. When they scorched through for the first goal and the Cork crowd erupted it seemed my worries were well founded. Crucially , Stephen's cracking goal restored a degree of order only to have us undone by another Cork goal, not unlike the first one. In those opening frantic ten minutes , Peter Crowley was out at wing back struggling badly against Ruarie Dean. Surely it is apparent to management that Peter, to use horse racing parlance, is carrying too much lead in the saddle at this stage of his career to be playing at wing back. He finished the game in the full back area , more or less, where he was a rock . He will be needed there against Damien Comer.
In those first ten minutes or so it looked as Kerry could conceivably concede more goals but suddenly seemed as if somebody flicked a switch which energised Kerry and paralysed Cork. It as an astonishing transformation. Every Kerry player seemed to grow a foot taller and become a yard faster . The work rate was in the stratosphere with Cork being tackled into oblivion and submission. The margin of seven points at half time was not insurmountable but on the evidence of the contrasting efforts of both teams the issue looked sealed. I suppose an early Cork goal could get their supporters going again. However , it was Kerry who achieved that via the sparkling Paul Geaney. At that stage I am sure Cork supporters felt like scaling the city end wall to join the Marquee festivities such was the despair they must have experienced.
Even allowing for the first rank display , for the most part, of Kerry it is hard to fathom how Cork folded the tent at such an early juncture. They became lifeless , docile and clueless. I do not care what people say about this Cork team I am convinced that they include a large cohort of very good footballers. It is a mystery why they cannot do themselves justice. Take Aiden Walsh for example. Back in 2010 when he was just a young fellow there were some suggesting the could be the next Jacko. A wild exaggeration of course bit now he looks no better than a junior footballer.
EF will be very pleased with his team and with good reason, apart from the opening ten minutes. He will be rightly enraged with Stephen O'Brien for his puerile black card. One can make an excuse for a defender incurring a black card but for a forward to do what Stephen did is utterly appalling. He looked like as if he was going to torment Cork and on a bigger stage it could have been very costly. Lesson learned , one hopes.
Shane Murphy was not tested but seemed to be totally in command.
I thought young Jason was wonderful against Luke Connolly . As far as I can recall , Luke got one point of him when in fact the lines man impeded Jason's effort to get back to put in his tackle. I chuckled to myself when , after the melee, the ref decided to give yellow cards to Jason and Mark Collins, two of the most players on the field. Brian O'Beaghlaigh justified his selection, full of pace and attitude.
Paul Murphy was caught on the wrong side of Ruairi Deane when he was outfielded for one of goals. Apart from that he was the usual Paul. Tadgh Morley was quietly efficient. Gavin White was in front of me for second half and I do not overstate it when I say he was invincible in every aspect of his play.
David Moran had a few sloppy kicks but otherwise he was the dominant midfielder. Jack Barry was not far behind but I wish he could be persuaded to take his score more often.
Michael Burns seemed to suffer a little from stage fright and was over inclined to lay it off rather than take on his man which he is well able to do. His replacement Kevin McCarthy made a huge impression and if, like Jack Barry, he could be persuaded to go for his own score more often then we have another serious option in attack. Sean O'Shea continues his upward curve in this laid back style of his. He is a smart , calculating CHF.
I met a few fellows afterwards who were critical of David Clifford. It appears to me they willl not be happy unless he can replicate his scoring exploits of his minor days. He won most of the ball that came his way and , largely , used it cleverly. I could not be happier with him. Remember he is only an apprentice. It is not necessary to comment on Paul Geaney except to say that he has now become a leader in the mould of KD. James had a mixed day. I repeat that I feel he would be better employed in the right corner.
One has to be happy with performance. There is room for improvement of course and one expects that improvement will materialise. The bigger worry now is that hype is beginning to envelop the team but I suppose there are always worries.
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Post by Jigz84 on Jun 25, 2018 8:56:58 GMT
Kevin McCarthy was very impressive last night. If EF wanted to pick his best 15 from the start the next day, then Kevin would surely start. But finishing strongly is where its at now so Kevin might not start games. I'd worry that Kieran Donaghy, Barry John Keane, Killian Young and Darran O'Sullivan were all on the field at the end.
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Jun 25, 2018 9:38:40 GMT
White was electric comparable to jack Mac for Dublin but the Dublin version. has Licence to score points and goals I’m not sure if White is allowed to do that by our conservative management Even wing forward. Michael Burns seems to have an invisible border beyond which he is not allowed to cross. As he progresses forward . Totally agree White is a revelation ! Let s use him to his full potential no holds barred This sniping at the management is uncalled for. I heard a Kerry fan actually critise EF as we left the ground. That after a 17 point win. We asked for youth we got it. We asked for pace we got it. We asked for expansive football with less laterial passing. We've got it. I think the achievement of this management team introducing basically a new senior team in 6 months deserve credit for having the courage to do it. Very well said, couldn't agree more.
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Post by bedlamite on Jun 25, 2018 11:21:40 GMT
On balance you would have to say it was one of the best Kerry displays for many a year. Even the year they last lifted Sam in 2014, they had no display of such a commanding level as Saturday Evening's. When picking over the entrails of last years campaign and its dismal ending, the answers to Kerry's problems lay in the application of fast and fit youth with Football skills, and they put these answers on the New Pairc Ui Chaoimh test paper and got an A plus Mark. They did not score 100% marks, but they got well into the 90's.
Cork were well prepared, but they had not come up against such a fast and fit, hard tackling team as this for years, so when they did, they did not have the tools to deal with it.
The level Dublin are at, and indeed Mayo of the last few years, when the Championship is in the melting pot is the level Kerry are aiming at, and yet you need a sort of naivety to go that bit farther to better that level, and that's what it will take to win this years Championship. Kerry have lost recent campaigns by small margins, because they were have used the tried and tested football talent within the county which matched, but in reality could not better Dublin, and the athleticism of the younger Dublin men won out in the dying minutes.
Great to see football played with such a positive attitude. Fair dues to Cork also for setting up to play it in the right way. Cork needed to see what the real level is like so that they can set their bar to the right level. This youthful Kerry side have seen this level this year when Dublin gave them a second half spanking in the League, and over the last few years at the latter stages of the Championship. Kerry were so good because they respected Cork, and fair dues to the management team for getting them so fit and strong, and resilient enough to comeback so strong from the poor start. Ruari Deane gave Paul Murphy a hiding in the early stages, but Paul Murphy played so well after this its a great sign of him and the team. Kevin McCarthy played really well when he came on for the Black carded O Brein, who was ''lifting'' until that rush of blood to the head. David Clifford played really well also, and his lack of strength at his age was the only drawback at this stage, but one would have to say that his control of the ball, and his football ability stands out. If he avoids injury, he will be one of the all time greats. James O Donoghue, seems to have lost his scoring edge, and its because his markers are playing him from behind, keeping him outside them, and yet that is why he wins so much ball. That in itself is a great asset for this team. To have an outlet in the forwards ensuring the ball, when kicked forward, stays forward gives Kerry so many options. Paul Geaney is the primary beneficiary of these options, and he is so gifted and clever to execute same with such a high percentage conversion rate. His quick thinking to side foot the latter of his two goal haul is a hallmark of the Class forward he has become. Sean O Shea, even considering his ability to kick a 50, which is something that Kerry have been missing for some few years, but his directness and footpassing, tackling and strength in this vital position makes this Kerry Team a far more potent and difficult opponent than when we had the Gooch, even with his sublime skills, or the very negative tactic of playing Paul Murphy here in the seasons past. Michael Burns did not shine in his first appearance in the MSFC final, but while I will leave it for him to show us why he was chosen on another day, given the quality he is keeping on the subs bench he must be showing uo very well in training. Midfield performed well, and considering the Cork pairing gave them more than enough of it last year in last years decider in Killarney, they needed to. Moran was the best midfielder on show, and yet his display was far from flawless. He is reaching a level of consistency in his paly though that makes him a match for the best midfielders in the country, and if he removes the odd faux pas from his repertoire he would be the best in the Country. Jack Barry is a strong hardworking player and did a lot right last Saturday evening. He earned a few frees when running into trouble, but needs to be careful that he does not turn these dead end runs into turn overs. His fielding was good, and his covering back protected his colleagues in defence no end. Our half back line was our best line on display, and defended, once Ruari Deane got his marching orders, without a flaw, and attacked and bewildered Cork relentlessly. Morley was strong in the Center, he won balls he had no right to win, and while his man got some link ball outside of him, that is where he stayed, outside of him. Paul Murphy I have mentioned before, he covered every slippery blade of grass in the new Stadium, with cleverness, quick in speed of foot and mind. As for Mr White Lightning, what a display. He was immense. His speed going forward was unbelievable and marks him out as real threat for our future opposition to watch. The only negative for him is was he too good, can he be as good again. he has set himself a high standard. The full back line was first and foremost fast, and then strong, and then tenacious. Crowley was forced to roam, which may in former days suited him, but I don't think suited him on the banks of the Lee last evening. Its hard to be a roaming fullback, its an oxymoron if my English lessons are correct. Having the guilty feeling of gallivanting and having a good time, while you have left Misters Murphy, Beagloach and Foley holding the fort often has a subduing effect. He should have fisted a point instead of going for an unlikely goal opportunity in the second half, and perhaps, with his free flowing 'joie de vivre' he is not a natural full back. Neither was Seamus Moynihan though and we did alright when he donned the no3. Shane Murphy was not overly tested. He could do nothing about the goals when the hordes from Cork rampaged into his square. His kick outs were good and varied. He did not kick any over the sideline, and went long and short to good effect. The Star came on and caused a bit of further consternation, and in spite Jamie O Sullivan, (who got a fair rattle off the post when he came from nowhere to score the first of Corks goals ) pulling and dragging off the Tralee Giant, Kieran Donaghy with his reach and leap kept getting the ball into his hand. He laid off well, and covered a lot of ground in his 15 minutes on show. He kicked one short which he should have scored, but remains a great option for Kerry when the game is to be won. Barry John fought hard and got his point when he kicked off the tracksuit, and Killian Young make the shortest of the trios of subs.
Look, the Kerry fans pursuit of perfection will continue, and in spite of the largest winning margin in 80 years over Cork in a Munster Final, Paudie O Shea's affectionately titled ''flipping animals'' will see the holes, the areas to be addressed, and the oversights that could cost us this Championship. And this is an important Championship, because it will not only be a win for Kerry, it will be the loss of a four in a row for Dublin. The stakes are high, have they ever been higher.
In summary, I really enjoyed Saturdays game and I hope we win the next few.
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Post by glengael on Jun 25, 2018 15:07:37 GMT
What were people's impressions of the venue overall, access, facilities, where they parked, how long they walked and how was traffic management etc? I know it wouldn't be difficult to improve on the grey Soviet 1970's vibe that was all rage in the old stadium but I would be interested to hear on how travelling supporters got on.
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Post by buck02 on Jun 25, 2018 15:14:54 GMT
What were people's impressions of the venue overall, access, facilities, where they parked, how long they walked and how was traffic management etc? I know it wouldn't be difficult to improve on the grey Soviet 1970's vibe that was all rage in the old stadium but I would be interested to hear on how travelling supporters got on. Went to the minor game so I had no problem with parking, no problem with traffic before or after. The lack of signage for the various stands and terraces near the showgrounds was my main gripe. A few temporary signs stuck to the fence would have done seen as the majority of Kerry people wouldnt have been at the new stadium before. The stadium itself is grand. Toilets, food and drink outlets and shop all spot on. For the smokers its a non-smoking stadium so there were stewards and a Guard going around telling people who had gathered in one place to smoke to stub it out!
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Post by greengold35 on Jun 25, 2018 15:42:29 GMT
What were people's impressions of the venue overall, access, facilities, where they parked, how long they walked and how was traffic management etc? I know it wouldn't be difficult to improve on the grey Soviet 1970's vibe that was all rage in the old stadium but I would be interested to hear on how travelling supporters got on. All good but then again I was there early , so no problems. Parking in town seems to be the way to go.
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Post by dc84 on Jun 25, 2018 15:54:27 GMT
What were people's impressions of the venue overall, access, facilities, where they parked, how long they walked and how was traffic management etc? I know it wouldn't be difficult to improve on the grey Soviet 1970's vibe that was all rage in the old stadium but I would be interested to hear on how travelling supporters got on. All good but then again I was there early , so no problems. Parking in town seems to be the way to go. The stadium itself is great fine facility, noticed there was only 1 bar open in upper tier (didnt bother me ) but they lost out although a sat nite game can be bad news ie youngfellas and drink . The walk is as it always was a pain tbh. Tough if you have kids/old people especially in that heat
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Post by veteran on Jun 25, 2018 15:56:12 GMT
I am not sure what sparked the melee in the second half when the match was decided. Kerry players were very foolish not to have walked away in that situation. If it is revisited silly suspensions could be handed out. A lesson for the future.
I am not saying Brian Hurley started the trouble but he is a great man to get involved in a row. Young Brian O'Beaghlaigh did not give him a sniff.
How did Paul Kerrigan allow himself to get so out of condition? Paul had a recent wrist injury and I overheard a disgruntled Cork supporter on the way out say that it not interfere with his eating habits. Like most of us, merciless in defeat.
A comment or two on the minor match. In the prematxh kickabout , star man , Paul O'Shea injured his right knee when jumping for a ball. He still had a fine game but I was surprised to see him start the second half by which time the match was well won.
Paul Walsh is a lively merchant but , as against Cork , his free taking is unreliable.
Dylan Geaney seems to be a born goal poacher. Was alert to a Paul Walsh free hitting the post in the first half and slammed it home. In the second half he was awake again when the goalie dropped a ball to score number two. I suppose Geaneys are expected to do that.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 25, 2018 16:07:18 GMT
Is the Geaney from the recent minor teams inside training?
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Post by dc84 on Jun 25, 2018 16:33:10 GMT
I am not sure what sparked the melee in the second half when the match was decided. Kerry players were very foolish not to have walked away in that situation. If it is revisited silly suspensions could be handed out. A lesson for the future. I am not saying Brian Hurley started the trouble but he is a great man to get involved in a row. Young Brian O'Beaghlaigh did not give him a sniff. How did Paul Kerrigan allow himself to get so out of condition? Paul had a recent wrist injury and I overheard a disgruntled Cork supporter on the way out say that it not interfere with his eating habits. Like most of us, merciless in defeat. A comment or two on the minor match. In the prematxh kickabout , star man , Paul O'Shea injured his right knee when jumping for a ball. He still had a fine game but I was surprised to see him start the second half by which time the match was well won. Paul Walsh is a lively merchant but , as against Cork , his free taking is unreliable. Dylan Geaney seems to be a born goal poacher. Was alert to a Paul Walsh free hitting the post in the first half and slammed it home. In the second half he was awake again when the goalie dropped a ball to score number two. I suppose Geaneys are expected to do that. Hurley was overly agressive and gave Beaglaoigh a sly one to the back. It kicked off from there didnt see a punch thrown so doubt there would be anyting to be cited over. Was impressed with young brian though he got stuck right back into hurley (legally) who is a strong devil. While i agree about needless handbags if 2/3 cork lads are getting stuck into one of our younglads then id rather see us backing them up then left on their own. Lot more physical teams on the horizon not advocating overly rough stuff but they cant let themselves be pushed around!
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Post by taibhse on Jun 25, 2018 16:39:11 GMT
Is the Geaney from the recent minor teams inside training? He's part of the development panel under Diarmuid Murphy.
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Post by Sons of Pitches on Jun 25, 2018 17:04:28 GMT
Kevin McCarthy was very impressive last night. If EF wanted to pick his best 15 from the start the next day, then Kevin would surely start. But finishing strongly is where its at now so Kevin might not start games. I'd worry that Kieran Donaghy, Barry John Keane, Killian Young and Darran O'Sullivan were all on the field at the end. I worry very little about the experienced lads on at the end. It was Alan Brogan who made a key cameo in 2015 same with Diarmuid Connolly last year. Stop sniping when there is no need for it.
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Post by beantownfan on Jun 25, 2018 17:13:20 GMT
It is amazing how far Cork have fallen, and to think they were literally trouncing Kerry at senior and under age less than a decade ago (remember James O, Stephen etc got a hammering in an u21 munster final etc..) It is hard to know where exactly we stand due to the lack of threatening opposition, but one thing is clear, a massive amount of pace has been injected into this team and the tackling at the back has definitely been worked on. I was highly impressed with Gavin White, he was my man of the match outside of Geaney. But with White, Morley, Foley, O'Brien, O'Shea, Burns, Jack Barry you've a set of men with pace to burn. I think it was on this thread, or maybe another, where it was mentioned about Kilkenny bullying Paul Murphy.. As good as Paul is, management will have to be wary of his opposite number's physique as Rory Dean also gave him enough of it last night for the brief spell he was marking him.. Onto the super 8s! That ball between Murphy and Deane was a high ball to the edge of the square and was the responsibility of a commanding full back. To attribute responsibility to Murphy is unfair. I am not trying to slate Murphy by any means - I think he had a good game overall.. I was simply stating that management need to be very aware of his opposite number. For the first goal 'a commanding fullback' would have had to have the knowledge to know to leave his marker and move back to the corner of the square. When you are going man to man everyone has to be able to hold his own 'one on one'. Murphy was isolated with his man, and was taken advantage of. Management obviously get it as they did switch him, just in future I'd hope we wouldn't get fleeced for two goals before making a move.
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