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Post by hugh20 on Mar 15, 2017 10:57:52 GMT
Dublin have looked vulnerable at times this year and we obviously have a much better chance in turning them over in ASP as opposed to Croker so I would give us a chance, a small chance but a chance all the same.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 11:03:21 GMT
We are still replacing the team from 2009. We have struggled at the back for a while now. When teams run at us we have no answer for it. I'm sure Gavin will have his players told to run at us in numbers and we will be all over the place. Shane Enright has been solid for Kerry the last few years but apart from him everyone other back has been inconsistent. I would also give Killian Young some props he has been a good servant but we are in bad shape back there. Our goalkeeper issue is a complete joke. We just keep going back and forth. Our midfield is non existent is some games. We have a lack of pace in our team. I'm worried about our forwards but we have talent and I think we could get that right by the summer. It's from 1 to 9 that we are really in trouble for the year. Maybe some of the u21s might fix it . Maybe O'Beaglaoich and Foley and Tom Sullivan in there might change it. No point bringing Donaghy and Sheehan back and throwing them in midfield. They're too slow. I think Dublin could give us a right hiding unless there is a big improvement. I think Moran has to step up and show Fenton what he's made of . Let him know from the start with a few early hits. We have been a way too soft and nice with Dublin the last few years. We need to show a little toughness put in some hits. We always give them way too much room and time on the ball. Unless that happens it could be a long night for the backs and midfielders.
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 15, 2017 12:17:01 GMT
We are still replacing the team from 2009. We have struggled at the back for a while now. When teams run at us we have no answer for it. I'm sure Gavin will have his players told to run at us in numbers and we will be all over the place. Shane Enright has been solid for Kerry the last few years but apart from him everyone other back has been inconsistent. I would also give Killian Young some props he has been a good servant but we are in bad shape back there. Our goalkeeper issue is a complete joke. We just keep going back and forth. Our midfield is non existent is some games. We have a lack of pace in our team. I'm worried about our forwards but we have talent and I think we could get that right by the summer. It's from 1 to 9 that we are really in trouble for the year. Maybe some of the u21s might fix it . Maybe O'Beaglaoich and Foley and Tom Sullivan in there might change it. No point bringing Donaghy and Sheehan back and throwing them in midfield. They're too slow. I think Dublin could give us a right hiding unless there is a big improvement. I think Moran has to step up and show Fenton what he's made of . Let him know from the start with a few early hits. We have been a way too soft and nice with Dublin the last few years. We need to show a little toughness put in some hits. We always give them way too much room and time on the ball. Unless that happens it could be a long night for the backs and midfielders. O Beaglaoich, Tom Sullivan and Foley should possibly/potentially all be drafted into the Kerry defence for the summer. Not sure the restarting issue rests solely with the keepers. Surely management have to have the real input here. If the keepers are the problem then Shane Ryan has to consistently start playing in goals for all teams he is involved with from now on and claim the senior jersey. Midfield is going to be a big problem for kerry over the next while, Moran is too pedestrian and Maher seems to be injury prone. O'Connor will be the big and real lose here over the next 2-3 years while trying to rebuild the team.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 15, 2017 12:34:33 GMT
Daithi Casey might be very much in the frame during the summer
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Post by kerryexile on Mar 15, 2017 12:39:15 GMT
Paddy Andrews got man of the match scoring 5 from play against Mayo in our semifinal replay in 2015. Our superior forwards always pulled us through against tactical opponents. As philip jordan says... We dont have the best forwards any more. But defensively we are behind too....behind dublin, mayo and probably tyrone. Was it ever that way as regards tactics Kerry have always been reactionary. Maybe thats a good thing in the long run... I dont know That doesn't make it fact. A lot of ex players become columnists and are paid to fill space with words. The content is not checked for football wisdom. He also said that Tyrone would win Division 1. We'll see how that works out.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 15, 2017 15:34:15 GMT
Its a fact that we are talking about opinions
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Post by Jigz84 on Mar 15, 2017 15:39:09 GMT
Our superior forwards always pulled us through against tactical opponents. As philip jordan says... We dont have the best forwards any more. But defensively we are behind too....behind dublin, mayo and probably tyrone. Was it ever that way as regards tactics Kerry have always been reactionary. Maybe thats a good thing in the long run... I dont know That doesn't make it fact. A lot of ex players become columnists and are paid to fill space with words. The content is not checked for football wisdom. He also said that Tyrone would win Division 1. We'll see how that works out. And he's tipped Kerry to win Saturday! A bit of a spoofer akin to Darragh me thinks.
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 15, 2017 15:54:23 GMT
That doesn't make it fact. A lot of ex players become columnists and are paid to fill space with words. The content is not checked for football wisdom. He also said that Tyrone would win Division 1. We'll see how that works out. And he's tipped Kerry to win Saturday! A bit of a spooker akin to Darragh me thinks. Also said in last weeks article that he might make a first weekend visit to Tralee. This week in his piece the game is in Killarney. Maybe he'll stay in Castleisland to hedge his accommodation bets. Last week Kerry are defensively insufficient and this week they will beat the Dubs. Seems to be exchanging text messages with the ghostwriter or something to that effect!
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 15, 2017 15:56:22 GMT
That doesn't make it fact. A lot of ex players become columnists and are paid to fill space with words. The content is not checked for football wisdom. He also said that Tyrone would win Division 1. We'll see how that works out. And he's tipped Kerry to win Saturday! A bit of a spooker akin to Darragh me thinks. uk.businessinsider.com/pundits-are-stupid-2012-12?r=US&IR=T
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Post by ciarrailar on Mar 15, 2017 22:13:33 GMT
To be honest, I think Kerry will win by 3/4 points on Saturday.
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Post by seaniebo on Mar 16, 2017 1:13:55 GMT
To be honest, I think Kerry will win by 3/4 points on Saturday. Out of curiosity what are you basing your prediction on? I think this is a free dart for the Dubs.. They have nothing to prove and any result doesn't change anything for them. They will still be the team to beat regardless . On the other hand it's a must win for us on several levels.. How times have changed.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 11:54:40 GMT
I agree with that Seanie. The only thing the dubs have to prove is keep their winning record going. Especially against us. I think Kerry have only beaten them twice since 2009. If you told me in 2009 that Dublin would dominate Kerry from now on I would have laughed at you. They have produced some brilliant players since then and they are still producing them. Scully looks a good find. McHugh looks good. They look like they have another good team at U21 level again. They will bring a strong team to Kerry looking for a win. It's hard to see Kerry winning to be honest . I would like to be wrong. We looked ok against Roscommon but they were poor. I can't see us stopping the run. It's too easy for teams to run at Kerry and Dublin will run at us a lot. They have too many good forwards for our average back line and Rock will have a field day from frees. Fenton will probably dominate midfield again. So I can't see it. We would have to play really well and from watch we gave seen so far it doesn't look good. The one thing on Kerry's side is the home crowd although the dubs will have a big following and the fact it's Dublin. That should give them a spur to raise their game. It's a good opportunity for some payback.
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Post by ciarrailar on Mar 16, 2017 12:09:11 GMT
To be honest, I think Kerry will win by 3/4 points on Saturday. Out of curiosity what are you basing your prediction on? I think this is a free dart for the Dubs.. They have nothing to prove and any result doesn't change anything for them. They will still be the team to beat regardless . On the other hand it's a must win for us on several levels.. How times have changed. Kerry were the last team to beat the Dubs in the league. In ASP on a cold wintery day. Any time we have played them over the last couple of years there's only a kick of the ball between them going into injury time. A couple of iffy refereeing decisions have cost us dearly.
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Post by kerryexile on Mar 16, 2017 12:45:45 GMT
I think it is a very important game for a few reasons and I cannot make up my mind about it until I see the team Eamonn puts out.
The selection will tell a lot about where we are right now. The half back line is vital and the time is gone for trying runners like Lyne that can look spectacular when they use speed intercept a pass but don’t know where to start when it comes to stopping a runner.
I would like to see Maher at midfield. I don’t think Barry has the experience to deal with Fenton especially the subtle way that Fenton pulls at player’s elbows which deprives them of the use of their hands to control the ball. Fenton mightn’t do it too easily to a player the size of Maher. Barry would be particularly vulnerable when he goes on his runs.
Having said that I think the right selection and a do or die effort and a surprise could be on the cards.
I think some Dublin players live on the edge - like all good teams I suppose. But in their case I don’t think they would finish with 15 players if defeat was coming their way. That could have a bearing on the result too.
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Post by thebluepanther on Mar 16, 2017 13:31:33 GMT
Out of curiosity what are you basing your prediction on? I think this is a free dart for the Dubs.. They have nothing to prove and any result doesn't change anything for them. They will still be the team to beat regardless . On the other hand it's a must win for us on several levels.. How times have changed. Kerry were the last team to beat the Dubs in the league. In ASP on a cold wintery day. Any time we have played them over the last couple of years there's only a kick of the ball between them going into injury time. A couple of iffy refereeing decisions have cost us dearly. Fitzgerald stadium was last time ye beat us. It was freezing. A very physical game. Ye hadnt beaten us in Fitzgerald park in a while if i remember. Kerry were All Ireland champions and out to lay down a marker. Donaghy was captain. A lot of handbags and off the ball stuff also. but to be fair ye deserved your win that day. I've a feeling this game could be a battle also. Will Fitzmaurice set up the team to disrupt Dublin from early, hope to wind up a few of the Dubs lads, get crowd going, then try and get some momentum. A lot at stake for him. Tactically as a manager.
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Post by jackiel on Mar 16, 2017 14:25:36 GMT
Out of curiosity what are you basing your prediction on? I think this is a free dart for the Dubs.. They have nothing to prove and any result doesn't change anything for them. They will still be the team to beat regardless . On the other hand it's a must win for us on several levels.. How times have changed. Kerry were the last team to beat the Dubs in the league. In ASP on a cold wintery day. Any time we have played them over the last couple of years there's only a kick of the ball between them going into injury time. A couple of iffy refereeing decisions have cost us dearly. It was in Killarney, the day of the hail stones, anyone out in the open that day was destroyed. I'd love us to be the ones to stop their run but truly I can't see how it can happen. Discipline will be important, Dean Rock will punish any silly frees conceded and that alone could be our downfall.
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Post by thebluepanther on Mar 16, 2017 22:16:02 GMT
Kerry will be running onto the pitch on Saturday evening fired up, they can't let the Dubs put one over them again , even if it is only the league , they have to go war. But will hurt and anger be enough to get a victory. Dublin will not want to lose this, but its not critical . Id expect our starting 15 to be similar to previous games. (Dean got two broken teeth playing against Mayo , so hopefully hes ok) Energy levels in second half could play a big part here. I've a feeling this could be a very physical game ,
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Post by southward on Mar 16, 2017 23:39:03 GMT
Kerry will be running onto the pitch on Saturday evening fired up, they can't let the Dubs put one over them again , even if it is only the league , they have to go war. But will hurt and anger be enough to get a victory. Dublin will not want to lose this, but its not critical . Id expect our starting 15 to be similar to previous games. (Dean got two broken teeth playing against Mayo , so hopefully hes ok) Energy levels in second half could play a big part here. I've a feeling this could be a very physical game , Dunno; maybe, maybe not. Won't be in either team's interest if it is. Kerry don't have the muscle to intimidate Dublin and neither side will want to be picking up stupid suspensions, especially with competition for places. Hopefully a game of football but the weather could make a b*llocks of it yet; not given good.
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Post by ciarrailar on Mar 17, 2017 0:23:16 GMT
Kerry were the last team to beat the Dubs in the league. In ASP on a cold wintery day. Any time we have played them over the last couple of years there's only a kick of the ball between them going into injury time. A couple of iffy refereeing decisions have cost us dearly. Fitzgerald stadium was last time ye beat us. It was freezing. A very physical game. Ye hadnt beaten us in Fitzgerald park in a while if i remember. Kerry were All Ireland champions and out to lay down a marker. Donaghy was captain. A lot of handbags and off the ball stuff also. but to be fair ye deserved your win that day. I've a feeling this game could be a battle also. Will Fitzmaurice set up the team to disrupt Dublin from early, hope to wind up a few of the Dubs lads, get crowd going, then try and get some momentum. A lot at stake for him. Tactically as a manager. Was that Fitzgerald stadium?? I just remember being completely bloody frozen and a blizzard falling half way through!
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Post by thebluepanther on Mar 17, 2017 0:27:41 GMT
Kerry will be running onto the pitch on Saturday evening fired up, they can't let the Dubs put one over them again , even if it is only the league , they have to go war. But will hurt and anger be enough to get a victory. Dublin will not want to lose this, but its not critical . Id expect our starting 15 to be similar to previous games. (Dean got two broken teeth playing against Mayo , so hopefully hes ok) Energy levels in second half could play a big part here. I've a feeling this could be a very physical game , Dunno; maybe, maybe not. Won't be in either team's interest if it is. Kerry don't have the muscle to intimidate Dublin and neither side will want to be picking up stupid suspensions, especially with competition for places. Hopefully a game of football but the weather could make a b*llocks of it yet; not given good. Can Fitzmaurice afford to put out a formation of trying to playing one on one and a nice game of football with few suspensions. . If he had a few victories over the Dubs possibly. But at the moment he needs a win , for his own credibility alone. I like Fitzmaurice and find him incredibly honest, but he is a win at all costs type of guy and I expect a tough game on Saturday. I don't believe Kerry will lie down, I certainly wouldn't be writing ye off. Am I confident of a Dublin win, hopefull but not confident.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 17, 2017 0:31:43 GMT
Dunno; maybe, maybe not. Won't be in either team's interest if it is. Kerry don't have the muscle to intimidate Dublin and neither side will want to be picking up stupid suspensions, especially with competition for places. Hopefully a game of football but the weather could make a b*llocks of it yet; not given good. Can Fitzmaurice afford to put out a formation of trying to playing one on one and a nice game of football with few suspensions. . If he had a few victories over the Dubs possibly. But at the moment he needs a win , for his own credibility alone. I like Fitzmaurice and find him incredibly honest, but he is a win at all costs type of guy and I expect a tough game on Saturday. I don't believe Kerry will lie down, I certainly wouldn't be writing ye off. Am I confident of a Dublin win, hopefull but not confident. I hope we do go one to one for this game. Ye haven't yer top forwards on the pitch and our backs should be able to hold their own. Conceding in that sense to Dublin - playing overly defensive - is a total no-no for this game in my opinion.
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Post by thebluepanther on Mar 17, 2017 0:42:36 GMT
Fitzgerald stadium was last time ye beat us. It was freezing. A very physical game. Ye hadnt beaten us in Fitzgerald park in a while if i remember. Kerry were All Ireland champions and out to lay down a marker. Donaghy was captain. A lot of handbags and off the ball stuff also. but to be fair ye deserved your win that day. I've a feeling this game could be a battle also. Will Fitzmaurice set up the team to disrupt Dublin from early, hope to wind up a few of the Dubs lads, get crowd going, then try and get some momentum. A lot at stake for him. Tactically as a manager. Was that Fitzgerald stadium?? I just remember being completely bloody frozen and a blizzard falling half way through! Remember it well. Got the train down for that one. Every Dublin oulfella over 65 that supported the Dubs with free travel was on the train. 4 hours of hearing about every game we were robbed in since around 1960 . But i wouldnt swop it for the world, get to meet brilliant characters. Ill head off early in the morning with wife and kids . Enjoy Killarney and drive over to tralee Saturday night. Really looking forward to it.
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Post by jackiel on Mar 17, 2017 0:57:52 GMT
Me too blue, I was staying with family the night before, bit of craic with Dubs on train on way down.My uncle is always early so we had good seats well back in the stand so the hail didn't bother us. I'm getting the 9am train on Saturday and staying over. I'll probably meet up with the cousins at some stage. Looking forward to a weekend of sport with club finals in Croke Park tomorrow followed by my Kerry trip. Safe travels to you and all those travelling.
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Post by thebluepanther on Mar 17, 2017 1:21:05 GMT
Me too blue, I was staying with family the night before, bit of craic with Dubs on train on way down.My uncle is always early so we had good seats well back in the stand so the hail didn't bother us. I'm getting the 9am train on Saturday and staying over. I'll probably meet up with the cousins at some stage. Looking forward to a weekend of sport with club finals in Croke Park tomorrow followed by my Kerry trip. Safe travels to you and all those travelling. Same to yourself jackiel safe travelling.
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Post by thebluepanther on Mar 17, 2017 1:35:44 GMT
Can Fitzmaurice afford to put out a formation of trying to playing one on one and a nice game of football with few suspensions. . If he had a few victories over the Dubs possibly. But at the moment he needs a win , for his own credibility alone. I like Fitzmaurice and find him incredibly honest, but he is a win at all costs type of guy and I expect a tough game on Saturday. I don't believe Kerry will lie down, I certainly wouldn't be writing ye off. Am I confident of a Dublin win, hopefull but not confident. I hope we do go one to one for this game. Ye haven't yer top forwards on the pitch and our backs should be able to hold their own. Conceding in that sense to Dublin - playing overly defensive - is a total no-no for this game in my opinion. Off course anything is possible, but Fitzmaurice is cautious by nature , watching Dublin struggle against Tyrone who were defensive yet easily overcome Mayo who gave us a lot of space wont have gone unnoticed. If he plays one on one it means he trusts his players individually to do their jobs against their opposite counterparts. Good luck to him if he does that, but I can't see it happening.
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Post by tpo on Mar 17, 2017 20:46:55 GMT
Kerry V Dublin – Allianz Football League Round 5 Saturday 18/3/2017
The Kerry Senior Football Team to play Dublin in Round 5 of the Allianz Football League in Austin Stack Park on Saturday evening at 7pm shows 2 changes in personnel from the side that defeated Roscommon in Round 4.
Mark Griffin returns to the defence in place of Paul Murphy who moves up front where he is joined by Adrian Spillane in place of Barry John Keane and the injured James O’Donoghue.
The team captained by Peter Crowley is as follows:
Ciarraí
1 Brendan Kealy Kilcummin
2 Shane Enright Tarbert
3 Mark Griffin St Michaels-Foilmore
4 Ronan Shanahan Austin Stacks
5 Peter Crowley (C) Laune Rangers
6 Tadhg Morley Templenoe
7 Killian Young Renard
8 David Moran Kerins O’Rahillys
9 Jack Barry Na Gaeil
10 Adrian Spillane Templenoe
11 Paul Murphy Rathmore
12 Donnchadh Walsh Cromane
13 Kevin McCarthy Kilcummin
14 Paul Geaney Dingle
15 Jack Savage Kerins O’Rahillys
Fir Ionaid:
16 Brian Kelly Killarney Legion
17 Barry John Keane Kerins O’Rahillys
18 Jonathan Lyne Killarney Legion
19 Anthony Maher Duagh
20 Stephen O’Brien Kenmare
21 Darren O’Sullivan Glenbeigh-Glencar
22 Michael Geaney Dingle
23 Bryan Sheehan St Marys
24 Cathal Ó Lúing An Ghaeltacht
25 Denis Daly St Marys
26 Gavin Crowley Templenoe
27 Conor Keane Killarney Legion
Bainistíocht
Bainisteóir: Eamonn Fitzmaurice (Finuge)
Róghnóirí: Mikey Sheehy (Austin Stacks), Padraig Corcoran (Dingle), Liam Hassett (Laune Rangers), Maurice Fitzgerald (St Marys).
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Mar 17, 2017 20:50:52 GMT
Looks very defensive to me. Where are the scores going to come from? Dublin will be licking their lips when they see that line out. Paul Murphy at 11 again? One can only assume that Fitzmaurice wants to finish with his strongest available. I hope it works, we need the points. 6 points in last 3 games a must to make the league final.
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Post by kerryboy83 on Mar 17, 2017 21:20:59 GMT
Have Dublin announced a team
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Post by timmy on Mar 17, 2017 21:30:44 GMT
I don't suppose that is a dummy team??? Can't see this team get to within 10 points of Dublin.
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Post by givehimaball on Mar 17, 2017 21:39:10 GMT
6 lads in their first league campaign in the starting 15
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