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Post by buck02 on Mar 20, 2017 12:16:28 GMT
Its was on 424 and 460 if you have Sky. No big mystery around it. And 11,000 got to see it in Tralee. Mind you most of those werent too bothered with watching a rugby game beforehand. It was not on live on Sky 424. I recorded the game on Sky 424 and watched it back when I came home from Tralee so I beg to differ.
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Post by 1979 on Mar 20, 2017 13:58:07 GMT
I often wonder do linesmen and umpires come to matches to watch games or to officiate? The linesman in front of me on Saturday night, I think it was Lane from Cork, seemed more interested in following the ball. Surely, the referee and co would have known what was ahead and asked the linesmen to keep an eye on stuff behind the ball? I understand that he has to follow play to a degree, however lots of stuff was happening on Saturday night as players were lining up frees etc. Just a thought. Couldn't agree more. 7 officials involved in the game at any given time, more than any other sport I'm aware of (bar NFL perhaps). If the GAA really wanted to tackle off the ball stuff they would increase the roles of the linesmen and upmires. In fact, the umpires' main responsibility should be to curb off the ball antics imho. We all like the physical side of the game I'm sure but we all get frustrated when a corner back is blackguarding his man away from the play too I imagine. It can be curbed without any rule changes or additional refs etc. but I don't think the appetite is there for some reason.
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Post by piggott on Mar 20, 2017 14:41:00 GMT
Donegal v Tyrone on 424. Kerry v Dublin 460. Delayed transmission of Kerry v Dublin 9:40pm on 424. Kerry created more scoring chances than Dublin this time but didn't take them.Usually it's the other way round. If we could repeat that with JOD and Gooch on board?
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Post by brucewayne on Mar 20, 2017 14:45:54 GMT
Anyone with link to game? Would love to watch it again
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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 20, 2017 14:57:18 GMT
Saturday night in the capital started with complete confusion. I went to a couple of different establishments only to find that the game was not on live on Eir 2 as listed all week. Buoyed by the rugby success the Sky blue supporters stoically settled down to drink. But it does beg the question what kind of amateurs have the decision makers signed over coverage of our games to? It would be interesting to know if Eir have to account to the GAA as to why the listings all week said the game was on live and thousands of supporters were left wondering with no explanation. Exactly as I said, diabolical, Down v Kildare on Eir 2, gone from screwing us to pay to now taking our money and forcing us to look at lesser teams. MUNSTER RUGBY WAS SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE UNLIKE MOTHER RPOVINCES, EVERYONE WAS ALLOWED PLAY AND KERRY IS THE STANDARD BEARER WITH THE NUMBER OF JUNIOR GAA FOOTBALLERS THAT REACHED THE TOP, AND ALL FROM ONE GREAT CLUB THAT IS CURROW, MOST OF THEM EVEN SCORED A TRY IN ONE CORNER AT LANSDPOWNE ROAD, HENCE CURROW CORNER.
UK TV SPREAD FROM THE 6 COUNTIES TO DONEGAL DOWN THE YEARS WITH THE RESULT THAT SOCCER COMMANDS A BIGGER SUPPORT THERE, VERY MANY PARISHES DON'T EVEN HAVE A GAA CLUB.
NOW WHAT PART OF THAT DO OUR BPEN PUSHERS NOT UNDERSTAND? MOST OF US REMEMBER DRIFTING IN HOME AFTER A HARD DAY IN THE PLAYGROUND, AND THERE WAS A MATCH ON, AND IT RUBS OFF. THAT WON'T BE THE CASE FOR FUTURE GENERATYIONS IF GAA HQ DON'T GET A KICK IN THE BACKSIDE FOR WHAT THEY HAVE DONE HERE. I MEAN THEY DIDN'T SHOW EITHER OF THE TWO BILL HEADERS LIVE - SAD, INSULTING, APPALLING.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Mar 20, 2017 15:21:48 GMT
Saturday night in the capital started with complete confusion. I went to a couple of different establishments only to find that the game was not on live on Eir 2 as listed all week. Buoyed by the rugby success the Sky blue supporters stoically settled down to drink. But it does beg the question what kind of amateurs have the decision makers signed over coverage of our games to? It would be interesting to know if Eir have to account to the GAA as to why the listings all week said the game was on live and thousands of supporters were left wondering with no explanation. Exactly as I said, diabolical, Down v Kildare on Eir 2, gone from screwing us to pay to now taking our money and forcing us to look at lesser teams. MUNSTER RUGBY WAS SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE UNLIKE MOTHER RPOVINCES, EVERYONE WAS ALLOWED PLAY AND KERRY IS THE STANDARD BEARER WITH THE NUMBER OF JUNIOR GAA FOOTBALLERS THAT REACHED THE TOP, AND ALL FROM ONE GREAT CLUB THAT IS CURROW, MOST OF THEM EVEN SCORED A TRY IN ONE CORNER AT LANSDPOWNE ROAD, HENCE CURROW CORNER.
UK TV SPREAD FROM THE 6 COUNTIES TO DONEGAL DOWN THE YEARS WITH THE RESULT THAT SOCCER COMMANDS A BIGGER SUPPORT THERE, VERY MANY PARISHES DON'T EVEN HAVE A GAA CLUB.
NOW WHAT PART OF THAT DO OUR BPEN PUSHERS NOT UNDERSTAND? MOST OF US REMEMBER DRIFTING IN HOME AFTER A HARD DAY IN THE PLAYGROUND, AND THERE WAS A MATCH ON, AND IT RUBS OFF. THAT WON'T BE THE CASE FOR FUTURE GENERATYIONS IF GAA HQ DON'T GET A KICK IN THE BACKSIDE FOR WHAT THEY HAVE DONE HERE. I MEAN THEY DIDN'T SHOW EITHER OF THE TWO BILL HEADERS LIVE - SAD, INSULTING, APPALLING.I am sick of you posting the same stuff up on every thread about the TV deal. And there is no need for the bold or caps either. A say you had something online as well last night accusing the GAA of taking backhanders which I presume was taken down. I am going to report this post to Control. Fine you have a point, but stop ramming it down our throats. Im sure the people of Down and Kildare were glad of the chance to watch their teams on tv. Were we not on FTA eir sport for the Mayo match?
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Post by kot on Mar 20, 2017 15:44:24 GMT
Really enjoyed last night, great to see stacks Park absolutely rocking and the town buzzing afterwards. It was like the Rose festival in it's heyday. The game itself was very eventful and there was so much going on on and off the ball, you didn't know where to look. The referee had a hard time and neither team helped the situation. On both sides, there was a lot of laying down markers etc. I didn't think we had much chance before the game but the way we played in the first half gave me great hope, given that we had a gale to our backs in the second half. We had a hatful of opportunities and didn't take them. We continually gave away silly frees which was the single most frustrating aspect of our play. What happened at the end was an awful way to give away the equaliser, however, it happens. We got what we deserved and a draw was just about a fair result. Dublin were very impressive for about 20 minutes in the second half, their subs made a huge impact. A couple of our subs could learn a few lessons, you come into the game to have an impact. Mikey Geaney? Where was the logic in that substitution? Barry John has been tried and tested so many times. He ran around the place like a demented turkey and was taking pot shots looking for the home town hero score. Will he ever learn? Composure is something that he dearly lacks. For me Moran had a beast of a game, he was brilliant all through. Morley was teak tough and very strong all through. Ronan Shanahan continues to impress in an understated way and Stephen O Brien was excellent when he came on. How far are we behind Dublin? A fair bit yet, however, we are unearthing more talent as this league evolves and the last two games will help this process along. Love the league, it's a great competition. Any ideas what Eamon Fitz and Philly were discussing on the way across the pitch at half time? [/quote] McMahon threw an elbow on a Kerry player right in front of Fitz which he lost it over and berated the ref & linesman for missing. Must have decided to let that cretin what he thought of him.
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Post by kot on Mar 20, 2017 15:57:19 GMT
Negatives: Another game and another lead coughed up. If the roles were reversed and the Dubs were 4 points up early in the second half or 2 up going into injury time? That is our last 6 league & championship games where we have had a lead early in the second half and have only managed to come away with victory twice, and in both cases (Rossies & Donegal) we let them back into it. Lack of composure and poor decisions on the ball. Still as vulnerable as a giraffe at a waterhole when teams run at us.
Positives: Did't drop the heads and fought back gallantly to turn a two point deficit into a 2 point lead. Tactically again we gave the Dubs something to think about. For the last 2 encounters even though they haven't lost to us, they will know they can count their lucky stars on both occasions. They will mention the big names coming back but we know about them players and what they bring, they dont know too much about some of the new firepower we have coming up.... that is assuming they are used. Gavin White will immediately give us a new dimension from half back.
I know I mentioned the running at us as a negative but even still the frees given to Dublin in scoreable positions were in the Barney the Dinosaur level of soft! Jesus christ its not as if they need any help?
The 2 biggest teams meeting for the first time this year and not being free to air on tv is a deplorable state of affairs. Thank god I went in and got frozen!
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 20, 2017 16:08:25 GMT
Exactly as I said, diabolical, Down v Kildare on Eir 2, gone from screwing us to pay to now taking our money and forcing us to look at lesser teams. MUNSTER RUGBY WAS SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE UNLIKE MOTHER RPOVINCES, EVERYONE WAS ALLOWED PLAY AND KERRY IS THE STANDARD BEARER WITH THE NUMBER OF JUNIOR GAA FOOTBALLERS THAT REACHED THE TOP, AND ALL FROM ONE GREAT CLUB THAT IS CURROW, MOST OF THEM EVEN SCORED A TRY IN ONE CORNER AT LANSDPOWNE ROAD, HENCE CURROW CORNER.
UK TV SPREAD FROM THE 6 COUNTIES TO DONEGAL DOWN THE YEARS WITH THE RESULT THAT SOCCER COMMANDS A BIGGER SUPPORT THERE, VERY MANY PARISHES DON'T EVEN HAVE A GAA CLUB.
NOW WHAT PART OF THAT DO OUR BPEN PUSHERS NOT UNDERSTAND? MOST OF US REMEMBER DRIFTING IN HOME AFTER A HARD DAY IN THE PLAYGROUND, AND THERE WAS A MATCH ON, AND IT RUBS OFF. THAT WON'T BE THE CASE FOR FUTURE GENERATYIONS IF GAA HQ DON'T GET A KICK IN THE BACKSIDE FOR WHAT THEY HAVE DONE HERE. I MEAN THEY DIDN'T SHOW EITHER OF THE TWO BILL HEADERS LIVE - SAD, INSULTING, APPALLING.I am sick of you posting the same stuff up on every thread about the TV deal. And there is no need for the bold or caps either. A say you had something online as well last night accusing the GAA of taking backhanders which I presume was taken down. I am going to report this post to Control. Fine you have a point, but stop ramming it down our throats. Im sure the people of Down and Kildare were glad of the chance to watch their teams on tv. Were we not on FTA eir sport for the Mayo match? There is a kinda ignore button. Useful.
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Post by givehimaball on Mar 20, 2017 23:19:25 GMT
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Post by dart on Mar 21, 2017 6:13:51 GMT
But Croke park isn't Dublins home ground I thought?!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 6:14:18 GMT
It has already been confirmed that none of this ever happened and was made up.
As for the croke park point, I thought croke park was a neutral venue?😜😜
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Mar 21, 2017 6:24:59 GMT
And where did I say it was/wasn't? Next time Kerry play Dublin in the league will be in Croke Park barring an earthquake or a Trump wall. In that regard, we shall be the 'home team', ipso facto ergo sum.
Next question?
PS would yis ever get it sorted to have live tv free to air in Fortress ASP? Or is it some sort of elite venue, a stadium centre of excellence or wha?!
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 21, 2017 6:39:44 GMT
That stuff about the welcome... It was completely fabricated and I was the dope who fell for it.
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Post by Kerryman 2 on Mar 21, 2017 7:23:28 GMT
Here is the game in YouTube
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Post by thebluepanther on Mar 21, 2017 7:31:06 GMT
But Croke park isn't Dublins home ground I thought?! Exactly , if we play in Parnell park. Although I had a good laugh , when I read about the cold showers. Sure aren't all them boys used to the ice baths.
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 21, 2017 8:33:46 GMT
It is unfortunate that that kind of scour is indiscriminately posted up in the first place without being verified first.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 21, 2017 9:19:11 GMT
That rumour is taken as true in dublin. Its widely circulated now.
Well done to all dublin supporters who propogated and spread the fake news
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Post by thebluepanther on Mar 21, 2017 10:28:36 GMT
That rumour is taken as true in dublin. Its widely circulated now. Well done to all dublin supporters who propogated and spread the fake news I spoke to a Dublin footballer this morning who was involved in showergate on Saturday night He confirmed the water was indeed turned down from the usual comfortable 38 degrees which the Dubs are accustomed to 36 degrees . A Spillane was spotted sneeking out of Dubs changing room with smirk on his face. E o Gara ripped down the shower rail in temper and Jim had to console him.
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Post by keane on Mar 21, 2017 10:37:14 GMT
Posted this elsewhere but may as well throw it up here for posterity:
For the record just watched it there and while Paul Murphy is getting a lot of praise I thought he was pretty wasteful in the first half - turned over two or three times, missed two great chances badly. I'm nearly sold on him as CHF again though because his work up and down the pitch is class. Can't miss these chances consistently as he does but it might get better.
I thought McCarthy was nearly very good but a few little errors particularly in the second half mark him down a bit. Can't agree with the praise for Spillane who seemed to cough up a lot of possession and didn't have any real positive impact. I admire his willingness to put himself about in this early stage of his career though.
Morley could end up being an animal, more and more impressed every time I see him.
Flynn kind of turned it when he came on and we didn't get to grips with him for ten minutes where the damage was done. Having said that they got some fairly soft frees and we were extremely wasteful.
I think it was a fairly positive day's work.
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Post by kerryexile on Mar 21, 2017 13:33:14 GMT
I watched the game again on Youtube. You can only see so much on tv.
Did Barry do a man to man job on Fenton or did Fenton just have a bad night?
Also how did Lyne play when he came on?
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Post by veteran on Mar 21, 2017 14:52:54 GMT
I am not sure why people are suggesting Brendan Kealy should be dropped after the last night. Apart from one poor kickout, most goalies seem to make one at least, I felt he played well. He certainly is not lacking in the shot stopping department. He deserves the Cavan game .
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Post by brucewayne on Mar 21, 2017 14:58:32 GMT
The following is about as much as I can glean from the eir coverage. In terms of scoring chances in the first half, both sides had 9, missing 4. Of Dublin's 9 attempts to score, 6 were frees and of Kerry's, there was 1 free and two 45s. Credit must be given to Kealy for his second 45 which he pointed in what appeared to be bad conditions (going by the coverage). At the end of the first half MacAuley was very lucky that he wasn't sent off with an obvious strike on a player after a tussle on the ground. The guy gets away with murder. The even split of scoring chances seen in the first half was not repeated in the second. Dublin had 9 chances and converted 8, 6 of those chances were frees. Kerry had 15 chances and converted 8, 5 of those chances were frees and 1 was a 45. Stephen O Brien was flying and should start next weekend. Same for Darren. The two biggest regrets for the team will be their wastefulness and their indiscipline (in the first half). Still, it was a big performance and it offers a template to control the game when playing the Dubs that requires little tweaking.
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Post by givehimaball on Mar 21, 2017 15:08:34 GMT
I am not sure why people are suggesting Brendan Kealy should be dropped after the last night. Apart from one poor kickout, most goalies seem to make one at least, I felt he played well. He certainly is not lacking in the shot stopping department. He deserves the Cavan game . The thing was that because Kerry restricted Dublin to so few shots, he had a lower than average number of kickouts and even still he made a hames of one. Also with the majority of his kickouts were good, I think Murphy has a higher ceiling. In the club final Shane Murphy had one absolute peach of a kickout to Buckley - right into his chest out around the middle of the pitch ; Buckley played on and laid it one for Looney (I think) to pop over the bar. Basically the quality of the kickout was a major factor in creating the score - I think Murphy is far more likely to be able to do this on a consistent basis than either Kealy or Kelly. As defences improve kickouts are far more important than shot-stopping - you are likely to have something between the order of 20 to 30 kickouts a game, whereas the number of goal chances where the shot-stopping ability of a keeper are going to come into play are a lot less frequent.
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Post by clarinman on Mar 21, 2017 15:36:00 GMT
I am not sure why people are suggesting Brendan Kealy should be dropped after the last night. Apart from one poor kickout, most goalies seem to make one at least, I felt he played well. He certainly is not lacking in the shot stopping department. He deserves the Cavan game . The thing was that because Kerry restricted Dublin to so few shots, he had a lower than average number of kickouts and even still he made a hames of one. Also with the majority of his kickouts were good, I think Murphy has a higher ceiling. In the club final Shane Murphy had one absolute peach of a kickout to Buckley - right into his chest out around the middle of the pitch ; Buckley played on and laid it one for Looney (I think) to pop over the bar. Basically the quality of the kickout was a major factor in creating the score - I think Murphy is far more likely to be able to do this on a consistent basis than either Kealy or Kelly. As defences improve kickouts are far more important than shot-stopping - you are likely to have something between the order of 20 to 30 kickouts a game, whereas the number of goal chances where the shot-stopping ability of a keeper are going to come into play are a lot less frequent. Shane Murphy had 3 poor kickouts in the club semi-final against Corofin. I would stick with Kealy as there seems to be an improvement with his kickouts.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 21, 2017 15:51:18 GMT
I would again like to apologise to everyone over the post I made above.
I am trying to get control to delete all posts referring to it.
I am hoping anyone who quoted the post would also delete it.
I realise now that I posted in grave error and I am really sorry.
The worst part is I named someone and I particularly apologise for that.
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Post by buck02 on Mar 21, 2017 16:28:26 GMT
It wouldnt surprised me if the showers were indeed cold, having experienced cold showers a couple of times there in the past.
But it might also be explained by the fact that Dublin's backroom team of 63 people all also had showers and the hot water supply above in the Meadowlands Hotel wouldnt cope with that.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 21, 2017 17:13:29 GMT
Exactly as I said, diabolical, Down v Kildare on Eir 2, gone from screwing us to pay to now taking our money and forcing us to look at lesser teams. MUNSTER RUGBY WAS SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE UNLIKE MOTHER RPOVINCES, EVERYONE WAS ALLOWED PLAY AND KERRY IS THE STANDARD BEARER WITH THE NUMBER OF JUNIOR GAA FOOTBALLERS THAT REACHED THE TOP, AND ALL FROM ONE GREAT CLUB THAT IS CURROW, MOST OF THEM EVEN SCORED A TRY IN ONE CORNER AT LANSDPOWNE ROAD, HENCE CURROW CORNER.
UK TV SPREAD FROM THE 6 COUNTIES TO DONEGAL DOWN THE YEARS WITH THE RESULT THAT SOCCER COMMANDS A BIGGER SUPPORT THERE, VERY MANY PARISHES DON'T EVEN HAVE A GAA CLUB.
NOW WHAT PART OF THAT DO OUR BPEN PUSHERS NOT UNDERSTAND? MOST OF US REMEMBER DRIFTING IN HOME AFTER A HARD DAY IN THE PLAYGROUND, AND THERE WAS A MATCH ON, AND IT RUBS OFF. THAT WON'T BE THE CASE FOR FUTURE GENERATYIONS IF GAA HQ DON'T GET A KICK IN THE BACKSIDE FOR WHAT THEY HAVE DONE HERE. I MEAN THEY DIDN'T SHOW EITHER OF THE TWO BILL HEADERS LIVE - SAD, INSULTING, APPALLING.I am sick of you posting the same stuff up on every thread about the TV deal. And there is no need for the bold or caps either. A say you had something online as well last night accusing the GAA of taking backhanders which I presume was taken down. I am going to report this post to Control. Fine you have a point, but stop ramming it down our throats. Im sure the people of Down and Kildare were glad of the chance to watch their teams on tv. Were we not on FTA eir sport for the Mayo match? I don't really care what you think and if you only read what you agree with God bless you and I have no desire to hear your personal views if that is what is between your ears. I am free to use whatever font on my PC and threads as I see fit and you have no place to order others about. MY POINT WAS THAT HAVING PAID A SUBSCRIPTION (ONLY ONE, NOT SKY!) TO A CHANNEL THAT WAS SOLD UNDER CONTRACT BY THE GAA, NEITHER OF THE TWO TOP GAMES WAS SHOWN LIVE. I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH THAT AND I AM ENTITLED TO MAKE THE APPROPRIATE COMMENT AND AS MANY OTHERS HAVE. I THINK THE GAA BETRAYED IT'S COMMUNITY BY AGREEING TO SUCH TERMS AND THE REASON MUST BE DUBIOUS, I.E. THEY CAN'T EVEN USE ATTENDANCE AS AN EXCUSE AS BOTH GAMES WERE SOLD OUT LONG BEFORE. HOW YOU CAN CRITICIZE SUPPORTERS WORLDWIDE OF 4 OF THE BEST 6 TEAMS FOR BEING DISAPPOINTED, MOREOVER ON A BANK HOLIDAY SAT NIGHT IT IS PATHETIC. IT IS ALL THE WORSE AS IT ASLO BETRAYS THE AMATEUR STATUS OF THE GAME. There is a good article in the Indo today by Brian O'Driscoll and my contention is that the GAA Pay Per View is going down the road that has Driscioll saying this, that is in contrast to Munster's open policy and the reasons behind Connaoght's most recent success. I firmly believe that sports should be freely available on TV for youngsters and that will determine the success of the games going forward. I mean it is a hardly something I just made up -I'd say the vast majority feel strongly about it, and unless you have a constructive reply Attacking Wing Back, then feel free to read elsewhere as you have nothing to offer me by way of insight.
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Post by A.N. Other on Mar 21, 2017 20:55:06 GMT
I am sick of you posting the same stuff up on every thread about the TV deal. And there is no need for the bold or caps either. A say you had something online as well last night accusing the GAA of taking backhanders which I presume was taken down. I am going to report this post to Control. Fine you have a point, but stop ramming it down our throats. Im sure the people of Down and Kildare were glad of the chance to watch their teams on tv. Were we not on FTA eir sport for the Mayo match? I don't really care what you think and if you only read what you agree with God bless you and I have no desire to hear your personal views if that is what is between your ears. I am free to use whatever font on my PC and threads as I see fit and you have no place to order others about. MY POINT WAS THAT HAVING PAID A SUBSCRIPTION (ONLY ONE, NOT SKY!) TO A CHANNEL THAT WAS SOLD UNDER CONTRACT BY THE GAA, NEITHER OF THE TWO TOP GAMES WAS SHOWN LIVE. I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH THAT AND I AM ENTITLED TO MAKE THE APPROPRIATE COMMENT AND AS MANY OTHERS HAVE. I THINK THE GAA BETRAYED IT'S COMMUNITY BY AGREEING TO SUCH TERMS AND THE REASON MUST BE DUBIOUS, I.E. THEY CAN'T EVEN USE ATTENDANCE AS AN EXCUSE AS BOTH GAMES WERE SOLD OUT LONG BEFORE. HOW YOU CAN CRITICIZE SUPPORTERS WORLDWIDE OF 4 OF THE BEST 6 TEAMS FOR BEING DISAPPOINTED, MOREOVER ON A BANK HOLIDAY SAT NIGHT IT IS PATHETIC. IT IS ALL THE WORSE AS IT ASLO BETRAYS THE AMATEUR STATUS OF THE GAME. There is a good article in the Indo today by Brian O'Driscoll and my contention is that the GAA Pay Per View is going down the road that has Driscioll saying this, that is in contrast to Munster's open policy and the reasons behind Connaoght's most recent success. I firmly believe that sports should be freely available on TV for youngsters and that will determine the success of the games going forward. I mean it is a hardly something I just made up -I'd say the vast majority feel strongly about it, and unless you have a constructive reply Attacking Wing Back, then feel free to read elsewhere as you have nothing to offer me by way of insight. Would any of these games have been shown live if Eir Sports weren't showing them? Do GAAGO show league games or is it only championship?
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Post by Joxer on Mar 21, 2017 21:45:36 GMT
I watched the game again on Youtube. You can only see so much on tv. Did Barry do a man to man job on Fenton or did Fenton just have a bad night? Also how did Lyne play when he came on? I thought Lyne was poor to be honest....just doesn't/didn't get tight enough on his man at any stage and most likely to lose out I'd imagine when the U21s rejoin the panel. I thought Jack Barry had a good game and certainly gave Fenton enough to think about.
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