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Post by onlykerry on May 20, 2017 16:23:08 GMT
A team played a final this evening and lost. They scored 2-15 and still lost. One of their players scored 2-10. His name is David Clifford. And the team that won (by a point) had a less heralded player who notched up 2-7. Judging by reports and scorelines there were some very competitive fixtures in the latter stages of the minor league last night.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 20, 2017 17:47:07 GMT
A team played a final this evening and lost. They scored 2-15 and still lost. One of their players scored 2-10. His name is David Clifford. And the team that won (by a point) had a less heralded player who notched up 2-7. Judging by reports and scorelines there were some very competitive fixtures in the latter stages of the minor league last night. The Gaeltacht lad was MOTM. Annascaul/Lispole had a lad score 2-06.
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Post by mandad on May 20, 2017 18:07:31 GMT
An unusual ruling by a referee occurred at that minor game last evening. A player was Yellow carded for a second time and as a consequence was then shown a Red card – all in order. Immediately thereafter that Red card sending off there was a verbal exchange between that player and the referee which caused the referee to again produce the Red card and inform the player that this time it was a straight Red. Does that square with the Rules?
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Post by northkerry5 on May 20, 2017 19:36:45 GMT
An unusual ruling by a referee occurred at that minor game last evening. A player was Yellow carded for a second time and as a consequence was then shown a Red card – all in order. Immediately thereafter that Red card sending off there was a verbal exchange between that player and the referee which caused the referee to again produce the Red card and inform the player that this time it was a straight Red. Does that square with the Rules? the punishment for verbally abusing a player or an official is a black card not a red
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Post by northkerry5 on May 20, 2017 19:37:37 GMT
David Clifford rumoured to be going to Sydney swans for trials. Not sure how true this is, does anyone else know ?
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Post by himself on May 20, 2017 19:48:36 GMT
Actually the penalty for abusing an official can be yellow, black, or red, depending on the referees opinion of the severity of the abuse
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Post by himself on May 20, 2017 19:50:40 GMT
I don't think the referee can rescind a red card as a second yellow in order to issuse a straight red, he just reports the abuse and the CCC can increase any ban or punishment accordingly
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2017 20:16:54 GMT
Great win for Crokes over Dingle. Stacks v Crokes final again.
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Post by ciarrailar on May 20, 2017 21:08:45 GMT
An unusual ruling by a referee occurred at that minor game last evening. A player was Yellow carded for a second time and as a consequence was then shown a Red card – all in order. Immediately thereafter that Red card sending off there was a verbal exchange between that player and the referee which caused the referee to again produce the Red card and inform the player that this time it was a straight Red. Does that square with the Rules? the punishment for verbally abusing a player or an official is a black card not a red Using threatening or abusive language to a referee is a red card offence.
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Post by mandad on May 21, 2017 7:54:34 GMT
Have to say I wasn’t at the game and I am merely reporting what was told to me. My own view would be that the referee probably got it wrong. As the player was already dismissed on a Red card the procedure thereafter would be to include the incident in his match report. I am not aware of any Official rule that would cover his action.
With regards to David Clifford and Aussie Rules – my information is that, so far, no such approach/offer has been made to the player.
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Post by onlykerry on May 25, 2017 8:43:41 GMT
On the recent comments about representation from different parts of the county - it struck me looking at the minor league tables that only one NK team is playing in the top four divisions (1,2,3A,3B) of the county minor league and perhaps this is reflected in the representation levels. This begs the question what is going on with underage football in NK.
That is 1 team out of 24 - or assuming a panel of 20 per team 20 players out of a pool of 480 (about 4%). We have already established that about 18% of the physical area is in NK with a decent population density.
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Post by An Bradán on May 25, 2017 9:34:25 GMT
On the recent comments about representation from different parts of the county - it struck me looking at the minor league tables that only one NK team is playing in the top four divisions (1,2,3A,3B) of the county minor league and perhaps this is reflected in the representation levels. This begs the question what is going on with underage football in NK. That is 1 team out of 24 - or assuming a panel of 20 per team 20 players out of a pool of 480 (about 4%). We have already established that about 18% of the physical area is in NK with a decent population density. Interesting point Only. May be helpful tto run through those NK clubs. I'd imagine population in some areas is very thin and other clubs are operating with dual players. The fractured secondary school situation in NK is also likely to be a factor with players from the area scattered through 7 different schools. Tarbert / Listowel x 2 / Ballybunion / Causeway / The Green / Gael Cholaiste.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2017 17:24:40 GMT
No talk about the Minors. Big day for these young fellas too. Is Donal O'Sullivan fit again.
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Post by himself on Jun 29, 2017 18:07:56 GMT
My understanding from the press briefing is that he is close to a return but will be assessed. I very much doubt if they will risk starting him but I expect him to be on the bench - that's just my opinion, I have no inside knowledge. To be honest, I can see a very one-sided affair here. Clare have great heart and courage, and I have huge admiration for Seamus Clancy (he was my man of the match in '92 by a country, though Tom Morrissey got the award). But they haven't our football pick, our resources, or our development pathway in football. That's not disrespect, just honesty.
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Post by onlykerry on Jun 29, 2017 18:21:26 GMT
A thirteen point win in the opening game against the same opposition will hand Kerry the favourites mantle for this game. Kerry had an excellent first half that night and the game was effectively over by half time. The second half was a different affair as Kerry turned sloppy and had a succession of bad wides after their impecable opening half.
As with any game it is there to be played and attitude is very important - so long as Kerry turn up and play to their ability this should be winning outing for them - however the break for the leaving cert and the potential for complacency need to be dealt with and a professional approach is essential to deliver on their potential. Clare have absolutely nothing to lose and will give their all in pursuit of a rare Munster title for their county.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 29, 2017 20:47:38 GMT
Does anyone know when, where and against whom are the U17s in action again? Thanks
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Post by veteran on Jun 29, 2017 21:33:10 GMT
Does anyone know when, where and against whom are the U17s in action again? Thanks I read somewhere after the Munster final that it was fixed for the 05/08/17 against Connaught. That would be the August weekend which also often features minor quarter finals. I am not sure how that will work out. Incidentally , whatever became of the supposed inquiry into the malee after the Munster final? Has it entered the crowded space under the carpet?
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Post by greengold35 on Jun 29, 2017 22:02:20 GMT
Does anyone know when, where and against whom are the U17s in action again? Thanks We play winners of Galway/Roscommon which is currently fixed to clash with minor 1/4 final on August week end - neutral venue. Nothing on the melee though !!
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 30, 2017 8:20:45 GMT
Fixing the u17s for say Portlaoise on the day before Kerry seniors play the QF would work for Kerry fans travelling up.
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Post by champer on Jun 30, 2017 9:54:26 GMT
Fixing the u17s for say Portlaoise on the day before Kerry seniors play the QF would work for Kerry fans travelling up. Management have a balancing act coming up as the u17 and u18 games are close together. The dual players will have a heavy workload.
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Post by buck02 on Jun 30, 2017 10:07:31 GMT
Fixing the u17s for say Portlaoise on the day before Kerry seniors play the QF would work for Kerry fans travelling up. Management have a balancing act coming up as the u17 and u18 games are close together. The dual players will have a heavy workload. The players who are U17 and are on the minor panel should be left to play exclusively with the minors. There are surely enough players in Kerry (U17s not making the minor panel and U16s) who can play on the U17 team. The whole point in having an U17 competition this year was because players born in 2000 will be overage in 2018 when the grade changes from U18 to U17.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 12:08:47 GMT
Shay Walsh (Scartaglin) should be on the subs. Tadhg Sugrue (Tousist) another player I'm surprised didn't make it. David Dineen from Rathmore a fine u16 prospect. He will be on it next year.
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Post by kerryspectator15 on Jun 30, 2017 22:15:00 GMT
Any one else think it is a bit strange that there is as many if not more players from last years u16 County Championship plate final on this team than there is from the cup final. It can't make sense in my opinion
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Post by himself on Jun 30, 2017 23:18:40 GMT
Aye. Their results clearly show that this is a poorly picked team. Now in all fairness, and I don't mean this in a hostile fashion, but who would you bring in, and who would you drop for them?
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Post by kerryspectator15 on Jun 30, 2017 23:51:39 GMT
Aye. Their results clearly show that this is a poorly picked team. Now in all fairness, and I don't mean this in a hostile fashion, but who would you bring in, and who would you drop for them? When you look at the results of competitions itself such as Cordal/ Scart and Laune Rangers being in the division one county league final and were the two best teams in the division I think. Not a mind Castleisland district walking the County Championship apart from their semi final against kenmare. There has to be more players in these teams worth looking at.
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Post by himself on Jul 1, 2017 0:46:34 GMT
I'm fine with that. But who should I be looking at, and who should be dropped for them?
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Post by tpo on Jul 1, 2017 21:40:45 GMT
Is the match been streamed live anywhere ?
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jul 1, 2017 23:08:17 GMT
Two from NK of a panel of 30. No, I am not saying there is bias, there probably isn't because I believe merit counts 100% in Kerry, but the geographical spread of management is questionable, 1 from Tralee, the rest south of that -now there may be good reason, as may be in the sporadic nature of these things - is soccer stronger in NK? -certainly weaker in the peninsulas!
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Post by onlykerry on Jul 1, 2017 23:28:39 GMT
Two from NK of a panel of 30. No, I am not saying there is bias, there probably isn't because I believe merit counts 100% in Kerry, but the geographical spread of management is questionable, 1 from Tralee, the rest south of that -now there may be good reason, say as is the sporadic nature of these things - is soccer stronger in NK? -certainly weaker in the peninsulas! Soccer not stronger in NK by any stretch of the imagination. One big club in Listowel. Two in Tralee and two in Killarney with a number of rural clubs that produce teams from time to time. The cause of the decline of NK football lies elsewhere and it is puzzling. Is it as simple as the ebb and flow of the game or is there a more fundamental reason.
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Post by onlykerry on Jul 1, 2017 23:37:33 GMT
Best of luck to the minors as they attempt a rare sequence of five consecutive Munster titles. Four has been achieved on a few occasions and the record is seven by Kerry 1945-1951
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