Money

[southward]

Oct 3, 2019 15:26:42 GMT kerrygold said:

Surely Galway were just cashing their chips in.............

Supermacs are also reviewing their snackbox sponsorship of Mayo Mick. Apparently they haven't got a pitch invasion out of him for 5 years.

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Oct 3, 2019 14:08:47 GMT glengael said:

Oct 3, 2019 10:15:25 GMT Mickmack said:

'Disappointed' Galway GAA respond to Supermac's request
Updated / Wednesday, 2 Oct 2019 17:03
'Galway GAA are happy to confirm that sponsorship went towards the preparation of all our inter-county teams'
'Galway GAA are happy to confirm that sponsorship went towards the preparation of all our inter-county teams'


Galway GAA has responded to requests from main sponsors Supermac's, who were looking for an explanation as to how the money they provided was spent.

A statement released by the county committee acknowledged the long-standing partnership with the restaurant chain, which has been 'beneficial to both parties'.

Galway GAA said that they were happy to confirm that the Supermac's sponsorship money went towards the preparation the inter-county sides in both football and hurling.

The committee also said that they were disappointed with Supermac's statement, which asked for clarification as to how the €1.6m of their money had been spent over the past five years.

Galway GAA outlined that they have spent over €7.4m preparing the inter-county teams over the past five years, while there has also been 'significant capital expenditure on training facilities'.

"We look forward to having the opportunity to discuss these matters with Pat McDonagh directly," said the statement.


Supermac's owner Pat McDonagh
The full statement read: "Galway GAA is disappointed with the statement, released by long-serving county sponsor, Supermac's, last night, relating to the sponsorship of our county teams.

"The Galway County Committee acknowledges the long-standing, generous support of Pat McDonagh and Supermac's to Galway GAA, which has been beneficial to both parties.

"Galway GAA are happy to confirm that sponsorship, contributed by Supermac's, went towards the preparation of all our inter-county teams in both codes.

"For purposes of clarity, the board would like to point out that in excess of €7.4m has been spent by Galway GAA in the preparation of the football and hurling teams, to the highest standards, over the course of the last five seasons, Supermac's sponsorship has made a valued contribution to this overall cost.

"Our teams have been involved in All-Ireland semi-finals and finals in that period, ensuring long and high-profile campaigns, over the course of the summers in question.

"In addition to team preparation costs, there has also been significant capital expenditure on training facilities.

"Galway GAA has overseen a review of its financial operation in recent months, with the assistance of the GAA at Central Level.

"We are currently implementing the findings of the 2018 Mazars Report, which highlighted previous governance deficiencies in Galway GAA.

"This has been overseen by a representative from Croke Park, and ensures that the highest standards of financial and accounting practices are now in place.

"As a consequence, we have appointed a new Finance and Operations Manager, who commenced employment last month.

"In addition to this, an Audit Committee with Galway, Connacht and Croke Park representation is in place to independently monitor corporate governance practices in Galway GAA.

"We look forward to having the opportunity to discuss these matters with Pat McDonagh directly.

"Galway GAA will be making no further comment."

Would Galway not have had to account on a yearly basis to Supermacs for what they were spending the money on?

Not sure why they should.

Supermacs pay sponsorship to get publicity for their brand.

It doesn’t give them the right to audit the spend.

Galway gaa would have many sources of income

[kerrygold]

Oct 3, 2019 17:00:57 GMT southward said:

Oct 3, 2019 15:26:42 GMT kerrygold said:

Surely Galway were just cashing their chips in.............

Supermacs are also reviewing their snackbox sponsorship of Mayo Mick. Apparently they haven't got a pitch invasion out of him for 5 years.

The drumsticks are really rolling now, don't make a meal of it!

[skybluezone]

Oct 3, 2019 14:08:47 GMT glengael said:

Oct 3, 2019 10:15:25 GMT Mickmack said:

'Disappointed' Galway GAA respond to Supermac's request
Updated / Wednesday, 2 Oct 2019 17:03
'Galway GAA are happy to confirm that sponsorship went towards the preparation of all our inter-county teams'
'Galway GAA are happy to confirm that sponsorship went towards the preparation of all our inter-county teams'


Galway GAA has responded to requests from main sponsors Supermac's, who were looking for an explanation as to how the money they provided was spent.

A statement released by the county committee acknowledged the long-standing partnership with the restaurant chain, which has been 'beneficial to both parties'.

Galway GAA said that they were happy to confirm that the Supermac's sponsorship money went towards the preparation the inter-county sides in both football and hurling.

The committee also said that they were disappointed with Supermac's statement, which asked for clarification as to how the €1.6m of their money had been spent over the past five years.

Galway GAA outlined that they have spent over €7.4m preparing the inter-county teams over the past five years, while there has also been 'significant capital expenditure on training facilities'.

"We look forward to having the opportunity to discuss these matters with Pat McDonagh directly," said the statement.


Supermac's owner Pat McDonagh
The full statement read: "Galway GAA is disappointed with the statement, released by long-serving county sponsor, Supermac's, last night, relating to the sponsorship of our county teams.

"The Galway County Committee acknowledges the long-standing, generous support of Pat McDonagh and Supermac's to Galway GAA, which has been beneficial to both parties.

"Galway GAA are happy to confirm that sponsorship, contributed by Supermac's, went towards the preparation of all our inter-county teams in both codes.

"For purposes of clarity, the board would like to point out that in excess of €7.4m has been spent by Galway GAA in the preparation of the football and hurling teams, to the highest standards, over the course of the last five seasons, Supermac's sponsorship has made a valued contribution to this overall cost.

"Our teams have been involved in All-Ireland semi-finals and finals in that period, ensuring long and high-profile campaigns, over the course of the summers in question.

"In addition to team preparation costs, there has also been significant capital expenditure on training facilities.

"Galway GAA has overseen a review of its financial operation in recent months, with the assistance of the GAA at Central Level.

"We are currently implementing the findings of the 2018 Mazars Report, which highlighted previous governance deficiencies in Galway GAA.

"This has been overseen by a representative from Croke Park, and ensures that the highest standards of financial and accounting practices are now in place.

"As a consequence, we have appointed a new Finance and Operations Manager, who commenced employment last month.

"In addition to this, an Audit Committee with Galway, Connacht and Croke Park representation is in place to independently monitor corporate governance practices in Galway GAA.

"We look forward to having the opportunity to discuss these matters with Pat McDonagh directly.

"Galway GAA will be making no further comment."

Would Galway not have had to account on a yearly basis to Supermacs for what they were spending the money on?

When it comes to scrutinising finances, these are the real GAA stories. Galway, Mayo, Jack o'Connor to Kildare, Fitzy in Wexford. No appetite to open the Pandora's Box however, I wonder why.
Better just to listen to McKenna waffle on about financial doping of Dublin. Whenever you read one of his columns, keep in mind his tweet that liked a comment praising Johnny Coopers stabbing. Nice guy.

[Mickmack]

Could you explain the Davy to Wexford inside story and the Jack to Kildare inside story. Sounds interesting

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Oct 4, 2019 6:12:46 GMT skybluezone said:

Oct 3, 2019 14:08:47 GMT glengael said:

Would Galway not have had to account on a yearly basis to Supermacs for what they were spending the money on?

When it comes to scrutinising finances, these are the real GAA stories. Galway, Mayo, Jack o'Connor to Kildare, Fitzy in Wexford. No appetite to open the Pandora's Box however, I wonder why.
Better just to listen to McKenna waffle on about financial doping of Dublin. Whenever you read one of his columns, keep in mind his tweet that liked a comment praising Johnny Coopers stabbing. Nice guy.

And you know of course that mackenna said that he did not mean to like that tweet and subsequently unliked it but you don’t mention that

[skybluezone]

Oct 4, 2019 7:23:44 GMT Mickmack said:

Could you explain the Davy to Wexford inside story and the Jack to Kildare inside story. Sounds interesting

No I couldn't. And neither could anyone else. Isn't that the point.

Davy and Jack are probably doing it for the love of the game though!
Davy is a career manager at this stage. Next stop the Premier league.
Does he even have a day job?

As for Kildare, they could employ 2 or 3 GDOs' with what Jack will be getting.
But short term fix etc, then when it goes pear shaped they will cry about Dublin getting all the money.
You know the script by now.

[skybluezone]

Oct 4, 2019 11:05:06 GMT @kingdomexile said:

Oct 4, 2019 6:12:46 GMT skybluezone said:

When it comes to scrutinising finances, these are the real GAA stories. Galway, Mayo, Jack o'Connor to Kildare, Fitzy in Wexford. No appetite to open the Pandora's Box however, I wonder why.
Better just to listen to McKenna waffle on about financial doping of Dublin. Whenever you read one of his columns, keep in mind his tweet that liked a comment praising Johnny Coopers stabbing. Nice guy.

And you know of course that mackenna said that he did not mean to like that tweet and subsequently unliked it but you don’t mention that

I do know that. The guy has a history of inflammatory tweets on every topic under the sun.
He threw the toys out of the pram when RTE Primetime didn't broadcast the full 19 minutes of footage he recorded with them in relation to "financial doping".
Anyone who constructs a good argument that disproves some of his "facts" in relation to said doping are blocked.
At various stages he has spouted on about Dublin being split into between 2 and 5 separate teams.
His latest trick is to try to force a move for the rest of Leinster to boycott, that's right, boycott the Leinster championship.
He's accused Dublin players of receiving 6k per personal appearance. No source given. Ask him which players. No answer.
Dublin players get free meals. No source.
The guy peddles rumour as fact. It's all there on Twitter folks.

He has freely admitted to hating Dublin, and hate is the word he used.
I mean we all have our prejudices in the GAA world, but Jesus hatred of a county! Coming from someone who writes for a national newspaper.
So when you set all that against the Cooper tweet thing, well, enough said.

[Annascaultilidie]

Ewan McKenna is a dose.

It does not follow however that he is wrong about everything.

[Mickmack]

Oct 4, 2019 13:11:31 GMT skybluezone said:

Oct 4, 2019 7:23:44 GMT Mickmack said:

Could you explain the Davy to Wexford inside story and the Jack to Kildare inside story. Sounds interesting

No I couldn't. And neither could anyone else. Isn't that the point.

sorry, we deal only in facts here.

[Mickmack]

May 9, 2018 9:36:27 GMT Mickmack said:

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this would be an example of something factual

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The irony of a Dublin fan criticising counties spending money on their inter county set up

[peanuts]

Oct 4, 2019 13:29:13 GMT skybluezone said:

Oct 4, 2019 11:05:06 GMT @kingdomexile said:

And you know of course that mackenna said that he did not mean to like that tweet and subsequently unliked it but you don’t mention that

I do know that. The guy has a history of inflammatory tweets on every topic under the sun.
He threw the toys out of the pram when RTE Primetime didn't broadcast the full 19 minutes of footage he recorded with them in relation to "financial doping".
Anyone who constructs a good argument that disproves some of his "facts" in relation to said doping are blocked.
At various stages he has spouted on about Dublin being split into between 2 and 5 separate teams.
His latest trick is to try to force a move for the rest of Leinster to boycott, that's right, boycott the Leinster championship.
He's accused Dublin players of receiving 6k per personal appearance. No source given. Ask him which players. No answer.
Dublin players get free meals. No source.
The guy peddles rumour as fact. It's all there on Twitter folks.

He has freely admitted to hating Dublin, and hate is the word he used.
I mean we all have our prejudices in the GAA world, but Jesus hatred of a county! Coming from someone who writes for a national newspaper.
So when you set all that against the Cooper tweet thing, well, enough said.

Could you refer us to a few of these arguments please cos I haven't seen any, unless you mean the one about Dublin having much better volunteers than everyone else!

[skybluezone]

Oct 4, 2019 15:44:18 GMT @kingdomexile said:

The irony of a Dublin fan criticising counties spending money on their inter county set up

Where's the irony?
Dublin have spent it well.
Others. You tell me?
Being a Dublin fan has nothing whatever to do with the issue. But some Kerry fans seem to have an issue with all things Dublin these days.

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Oct 4, 2019 17:42:31 GMT skybluezone said:

Oct 4, 2019 15:44:18 GMT @kingdomexile said:

The irony of a Dublin fan criticising counties spending money on their inter county set up

Where's the irony?
Dublin have spent it well.
Others. You tell me?
Being a Dublin fan has nothing whatever to do with the issue. But some Kerry fans seem to have an issue with all things Dublin these days.

The irony is you criticizing counties for spending money. Why shouldn’t they when it is just a fraction of what Dublin get and spend

Of course you don’t have Dublin blinkers on and clearly you have an issue with facts



Your last comment is pathetic to be honest

[kerrybhoy06]

Oct 4, 2019 17:42:31 GMT skybluezone said:

Oct 4, 2019 15:44:18 GMT @kingdomexile said:

The irony of a Dublin fan criticising counties spending money on their inter county set up

Where's the irony?
Dublin have spent it well.
Others. You tell me?
Being a Dublin fan has nothing whatever to do with the issue. But some Kerry fans seem to have an issue with all things Dublin these days.

Remind me how Dublin were doing prior to the massive influx of cash from the GAA?
Easy to be well run when you’re getting 17 times the central funding, money from the government and also the biggest sponsorship deal.

[skybluezone]

Oct 4, 2019 19:15:02 GMT kerrybhoy06 said:

Oct 4, 2019 17:42:31 GMT skybluezone said:

Where's the irony?
Dublin have spent it well.
Others. You tell me?
Being a Dublin fan has nothing whatever to do with the issue. But some Kerry fans seem to have an issue with all things Dublin these days.

Remind me how Dublin were doing prior to the massive influx of cash from the GAA?
Easy to be well run when you’re getting 17 times the central funding, money from the government and also the biggest sponsorship deal.

Dublin have advantages.
They are 1 Geography and 2 Population.
Thats it. Not money. For 100 years Dublin as a county did sweet FA about them. All Irelands won were an accident, apart from those won under Kevin Heffernan.

I don't think you need me to explain why 1 and 2 above are advantages. But the GAA county model is predicated on Dublin being just another county. Once Dublin got its together then the GAA had a problem. The money spent services the needs of a county. A county with approx 40% of the population. Lots of kids, and I mean lots. Take a drive past my local GAA nursery every Sat morn and you'll see hundreds of kids playing GAA. Then drive
out to Crokes, Boden, Judes, Ballymun, Cuala, Na Fianna etc. Hundreds become thousands. You get the picture? This is what the money services. Not trips to La Manga for the seniors.
Just a few of these kids coming thru at minor level every year means Dublin will always be at the top table. And with that brings envy, jealousy etc. The stuff we see every day from McKenna and his ilk. The GAA loved it when we were just another county, bankrolled the whole operation but dont get notions like success and winning multiple All Irelands.
The AIG money is a nice to have, because the brand is successful. If Dublin were *, and they won't be for a long time, the AIG money will dry up to some degree, but not completely. Dublin were * 20 years ago and they still had the best deal in town, with Arnotts. Remember that? Did Kerry have Kerry group in those days? Or did anyone even talk about the money?
Anyway, I'm still waiting for Mickmack to tell me why its a good thing that Wexford and Kildare are paying shedloads for their managers. Jim Gavin does it for free you know...

[himself]

I don't engage in this stuff too much. Money did not win Dublin an All Ireland, a great football team did. Also, I admire their brand of football.
There are counties that cannot commit the financial resources for expertise and facilities required to compete at the top level. The Kerry team was not and never have been one of them. An beal bocht only comes across as sour grapes to me. Kerry had a great year, surpassing my own expectations, and I hope that they can go a step further next year. If they do, it won't be because of money.

Inter-county managers do take on roles for financial gain, just as I most certainly would myself if the chance arose (it's unlikely; the last team I managed was U8). The pretence at shamateurism in the GAA has moved well beyond embarrassment at this stage.

There are arguments for a better distribution system for funding underage. Dublin has 70 GDAs who are part-funded (50% of salaries) by Croke Park. I would prefer an increase in GDAs for those Leinster counties who are quite aptly described as weaker.
I would also like to see more clubs, each with a smaller population, in Dublin. Killarney, with 15000 people (2016 census) has the population to support three clubs, all of whom compete in Division One of the County League at the moment. I would like to see that in Dublin, rather than the population size of the clubs at the moment. I suspect that is an evolutionary process as urbanisation continues and that there will be 'breakaway' clubs in time. However, that's a social issue rather than a financial one.

I would very much hope for a shift in Croke Park funding for underage development from Dublin to weaker counties. It doesn't add up in terms of spending per capita, because of Dublin's huge population, and I acknowledge that there is a greater player drain because of other sporting codes in Dublin than elsewhere. But Dublin have very effectively, and very admirably, maximised their juvenile development system. Other counties are struggling badly in this area and simply need the money. I'm fine with Croke Park supervision of spending, but the money has to be allocated to develop and promote the game in these areas or gaelic games will simply wither on the vine.

The idea of splitting Dublin has never once made real sense to me. The heart of the popular passion for GAA is rooted in identity, e.g my club is my community (even if the GAA only play token lip-service to that anymore) and my county is my people. Any Dublin split would be artificial in my opinion and those teams would not generate support. I don't believe for a second that they would be viable.

[hurlingman]

Something i womder Dublin fans, players etc say money has nothing to do with their success. But if that's true why do they keep taking said money?

[Mickmack]

Dublin’s success owes more to population than funding
Climbing population levels in the capital are creating an existential crisis for the GAA

Seán Moran
Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 07:00

The five-in-a-row done, what is Dublin’s place in history? The obvious answer is that this will be up to others to judge. From here on ground zero, the most remarkable thing about Jim Gavin’s team is their sheer competitiveness. Five championships have taken seven finals, all but two of which ended with a just a score between the teams.

This is unusually tight by the standards of dominant teams and yet no county has been as dominant in football in the history of the GAA.

It hasn’t yet been outlandish domination. Seven All-Irelands in a decade may be a benchmark in football but Kilkenny hurlers did it just 10 years ago. The next best in football is Dublin themselves in the 1890s with six but Kerry managed five in two of the last four decades.

The point is that the champions aren’t particularly distant outliers in terms of All-Irelands even if they are clearly in elite company.

But look at other indicators: a record-breaking unbeaten run in league and championship between 2015 and ’17, half of the decade’s national league titles and four of the old under-21 All-Irelands in the eight years until the grade was revised down to under-20 and made developmental rather than elite.

There have been fundamental influences on these achievements. Pat Gilroy came in as manager for 2009 and transformed the team from flat-track bullies in Leinster but soft touches elsewhere into All-Ireland winners.

That much-abused word “culture” is often used to describe what he changed but he also found new players and devised a more secure system of play in which the team eventually thrived.

Radically different styles
His successor, Jim Gavin, took care of the other six All-Irelands in the nine-year period, implementing radically different styles from all-out attack to a more defensively aware possession game, aimed at deconstructing the blanket that had smothered them in the 2014 All-Ireland semi-final.

It is commonplace to see Gavin mentioned together with his captain Stephen Cluxton and county CEO John Costello as the most influential people in the historic quest that was completed last Saturday.

The eternal Cluxton. His goalkeeping displays this year have catapulted him back to the top of the positional rankings – not that he was realistically far off them in the six years since getting his fifth All Star. His restarts have been items of discussion since the middle of the last decade when it was first worked out that he had almost become a puppeteer at kick-out time.

Yet in terms of the team, the weekend’s yarn told by Gavin about the goalkeeper’s reaction to Killian Spillane’s goal in the drawn final, encapsulates arguably the most important element he Cluxton brings to the team: the driving of standards. It is of course a cliché but like most of them it’s simply a hackneyed way of framing an essential truth.

When the captain – who, it should be emphasised is in his 19th season and 38th year – spends a few hours on a laptop analysing his footwork when failing to save that Kerry goal, how can younger players slacken in their attention to detail?

Costello has been at the wheel in Dublin for a quarter of a century during which he has overseen a modernising revolution. With development funds flowing from, initially, the Irish Sports Council, and maintained by Croke Park, the profile of Gaelic games in the capital has been transformed.

Capsize the GAA
The sheer population of the capital has always carried with it the apprehension that if properly exploited, it could capsize the GAA.

The funding issue and Dublin’s success are separate matters. It’s not that the development money hasn’t had an impact – of course it has but in a way that benefits the GAA by raising participation levels and when that happens, population numbers kick in.

In an interesting piece by Kieran Shannon in last month’s Examiner, coaches from outside Dublin, who have been involved in development work in the county, gave their opinions.

Gregory McGonigle, from Derry, and former coach of the Dublin women’s team, emphasised what he saw as the primary advantage.

“To say the [games development] funding hasn’t been a contributing factor would be wrong. But the population base is the big advantage. For every good GDO like a Páraic McDonald (Kilmacud Crokes), you can have a bad GDO. For me, it’s a numbers game.

Pat Gilroy came in as manager for 2009 and transformed the team. Photograph: Morgan Treacy/Inpho
“I remember once hearing that Russian boxing only needs one in 10,000 to become a world contender whereas Ireland needs one in every five. For a Derry or Monaghan to have a good county team, you need every club to produce a county player. In Dublin it only has to be one in every three clubs.”

Stadium debt
That population advantage isn’t transient and for all the disadvantages Dublin GAA faces – the need for more clubs and the price of property – there are obvious benefits, like public transport and the availability of a world-class venue in Croke Park, while counties like Cork and Mayo struggle to pay stadium debt.

The 2002 Strategic Review Committee report recommended that Dublin be split in two: a logical response to population size, as indeed would be a four-way split into local government regions – but how would that impact on the GAA?

Built on the whole platform of county identity, the association has tolerated rampant inequalities of outcome at a competitive level without exhibiting too much concern down the years. If this is sufficiently different, it will require radical solutions.

How enthusiastically would the city’s Gaelic games community embrace new identities like Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown or Dublin City or Fingal?

One rugby coach remarked that he couldn’t understand the fuss about Dublin’s funding – simply because whatever was being done was working so well and he didn’t mean five-in-a-rows but the competitive presence to attract youngsters to play. It is understandable why the GAA mightn’t want to compromise that.

Maybe Jim Gavin and Stephen Cluxton – and a host of other older players – will step away from the inter-county arena, having made history.

If so there would no guarantees about Dublin’s continuing success in the short- and medium-term future but, regardless, the continuing growth of the city population is fast becoming an existential issue for the GAA and surely deserving of a dedicated committee of review to plot a way forward that doesn’t sacrifice gains made.

[Mickmack]

Is it sour grapes by Sean Moran when he says that Dublins population poses an existential threat to the GAA.

Sean McGoldrick has a Dublin north v Dublin south team in his column last week.

I will post up the teams later. Darren Daly with 7 all ireland medals doesnt make the first 15.

Skybluezone... other than normal mileage rates i dont know any detail of what Jack and Davy get moneywise. Do you?
Jacks two sons are working in Kildare to my knowledge. I am sure that swayed him to an extent.

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Oct 5, 2019 12:13:50 GMT Mickmack said:

Is it sour grapes by Sean Moran when he says that Dublins population poses an existential threat to the GAA.

Sean McGoldrick has a Dublin north v Dublin south team in his column last week.

I will post up the teams later. Darren Daly with 7 all ireland medals doesnt make the first 15.

Skybluezone... other than normal mileage rates i dont know any detail of what Jack and Davy get moneywise. Do you?
Jacks two sons are working in Kildare to my knowledge. I am sure that swayed him to an extent.

Given Dublin’s extensive and oftentimes professional back room team, the multiple training camps they go on during the year, the nutrition support received, it is in disingenuous to say money has no impact on Dublin’s success.

[kerrybhoy06]

Dublin has always had the relatively large population but not the 17 million so to say that it hasn’t been a factor is either intentionally blinkered or idiotic.

[kerrybhoy06]

Oct 5, 2019 12:55:58 GMT @kingdomexile said:

Oct 5, 2019 12:13:50 GMT Mickmack said:

Is it sour grapes by Sean Moran when he says that Dublins population poses an existential threat to the GAA.

Sean McGoldrick has a Dublin north v Dublin south team in his column last week.

I will post up the teams later. Darren Daly with 7 all ireland medals doesnt make the first 15.

Skybluezone... other than normal mileage rates i dont know any detail of what Jack and Davy get moneywise. Do you?
Jacks two sons are working in Kildare to my knowledge. I am sure that swayed him to an extent.

Given Dublin’s extensive and oftentimes professional back room team, the multiple training camps they go on during the year, the nutrition support received, it is in disingenuous to say money has no impact on Dublin’s success.

The simple response to the above is- give the money back so

[Mickmack]

Oct 5, 2019 14:05:06 GMT kerrybhoy06 said:

Dublin has always had the relatively large population but not the 17 million so to say that it hasn’t been a factor is either intentionally blinkered or idiotic.

Careful now. You could be categorised as a sour grape merchant.

[kerrybhoy06]

Oct 5, 2019 14:44:18 GMT Mickmack said:

Oct 5, 2019 14:05:06 GMT kerrybhoy06 said:

Dublin has always had the relatively large population but not the 17 million so to say that it hasn’t been a factor is either intentionally blinkered or idiotic.

Careful now. You could be categorised as a sour grape merchant.

Population + regular level of GAA funding: 1 All Ireland in 23 or so years.
Population + 17 mill of GAA funding and the Government funding agreed between John Bailey & Bertie: 7 titles in 9 years.

Yet people still try to make the argument that the funding didn't matter? Aye, right

[Annascaultilidie]

I think the question of how to fund Dublin properly and fairly is a difficult one.

One thing I bring up now and then is the fact that the county boards of e.g. Kerry and Mayo have to fundraise of the order of one million per year.

I think Dublin fundraise to the tune of 5% of that.

[Annascaultilidie]

Oct 5, 2019 14:44:18 GMT Mickmack said:

Oct 5, 2019 14:05:06 GMT kerrybhoy06 said:

Dublin has always had the relatively large population but not the 17 million so to say that it hasn’t been a factor is either intentionally blinkered or idiotic.

Careful now. You could be categorised as a sour grape merchant.

Kerrybhoy says it is A FACTOR.

From some people's comments one can infer that they think it is the only factor.

[kerrybhoy06]

Oct 5, 2019 16:49:29 GMT Annascaultilidie said:

Oct 5, 2019 14:44:18 GMT Mickmack said:

Careful now. You could be categorised as a sour grape merchant.

Kerrybhoy says it is A FACTOR.

From some people's comments one can infer that they think it is the only factor.

To say that it’s the only factor would be ludicrous but it has played a large part

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Lets not forget that they get to play all their league games in Croke Park. I think this started in 2010 or 2011. I am sure this is of no benefit either😂😂😂