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Post by buck02 on Oct 15, 2007 15:50:52 GMT
I seem to re-call back in 2001/02 the Marc O Se was too light and too weak and only on the Kerry Panel cos of his uncle...........ANIMALS!!!
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Post by bob567 on Oct 15, 2007 15:57:41 GMT
I seem to re-call back in 2001/02 the Marc O Se was too light and too weak and only on the Kerry Panel cos of his uncle...........ANIMALS!!! that is why i said "at the moment anyway" about kenedy
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Post by Aodhan on Oct 15, 2007 16:05:27 GMT
Not a fair comparison. Mark is 6' while Eoin is 5' 6/7" and it's doubtful if he will ever gain the strength in order to compete at a higher level. Hope he proves me wrong. Otherwise he has all the necessary skills.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Oct 15, 2007 16:16:02 GMT
Maybe I'm missing something being away, but the few times I saw the Kerry minors on the box, between live games and highlights, I thought Eoin Kennedy was good apart from the second half of the semi final when more than he disappeared off the radar. eoin is good alright, very fast and nippy, but he just too small and not strong enough, at the moment anyway. he wont improve too much playing with asdee either Pat Spillane played with Templenoe!! Didn't stop him doing alright for himself!!
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Post by austinstacksabu on Oct 15, 2007 16:17:06 GMT
All you need is Table Mountain behind you and Charlie Bird interviewing you to have the full ring about that comment Buck!!
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Post by dodger on Oct 15, 2007 19:07:29 GMT
i would have john kennedy as manager with stephen stack and maurice fitz as selectors.......my team would be sayers e murphy-dingle maloney-crokes mahony enright young aidan shine alan sullivan david moran paddy curran brennan stam leary walsh o connor
tough team to pick and a lot more fellas i have left out!
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Post by jd1 on Oct 16, 2007 8:05:24 GMT
i would have john kennedy as manager with stephen stack and maurice fitz as selectors.......my team would be sayers e murphy-dingle maloney-crokes mahony enright young aidan shine alan sullivan david moran paddy curran brennan stam leary walsh o connor tough team to pick and a lot more fellas i have left out! look like enright and young on half back line 1 more class half back and it would get on most senior line ups in the country
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Post by Walter Mitty on Oct 16, 2007 10:44:01 GMT
what about the 7 mccarthys??
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Post by 2007champs on Oct 16, 2007 20:43:38 GMT
john kennedy didn't win at minor grade he hould have won one with the talent he had. the county board will have to look elsewhere,
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Post by juniorsub on Oct 16, 2007 22:44:19 GMT
Eamon Hickson-Annascaul Graham O Connell-Stacks Alan Creagh-Stacks Mikey Boyle-Ballyduff any of these lads in with a shout?
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Post by AnygivenSunday on Oct 18, 2007 16:22:39 GMT
No sorry im not a Mc!!!! But give me one reason sean mc carthy wont make it, he is one of the classiest footballers out there and he not 20 yet. He is full forward on feale rangers at such a young age and could get a medal that some of our greats have not... He should def get on the panel, walter im not sure about Angus but he will give it a fair rattle. Elaborate on that statement PIGGY? ? what parish am i from?? you sound like a listowel man to me anyway.don't get me wrong sean and ger are two very good footballers and have every chance of making the panel but you cant say the two of them will start on the team when they havnt made the panel at minor grade.i hope they prove me wrong and i know they're good enough but there are 50 other lads in the county who you could say the same about. you hit nail on the head... i put there names forward to have them floating about if u had,nt i dont think anyone would have.. but i agree with you there are alot of young talent about it will be tough to make it.
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Post by hugh20 on Oct 23, 2007 14:13:46 GMT
Eamon Hickson is a decent footballer however I think he will not make the cut!
Graham O'Connell IMO is a great footballer however he faces tough competition from the likes of Curran,O'Connor,Walsh,Leary etc. I do think he will make the panel though!
Alain Creagh is a strong young lad but I dont think he is up to the standard required at this level!
The 2 McCarthys from listowel are handy little players but I think any1 with an unbiased view will stay clear of them,IMO players will have to stand out at the top level and these players failed to produce against Annascaul and this was an intermediate game!
Bottom line about Eoin Kennedy is; his father was managing the minors and when Eoin played poorly he was never substituted which was unfair to players on the bench! Eoin is a good player but that is about as far as I would go,it is ridiculous to even consider him at this standard with the likes of Curran,Moran,Walsh,Leary,O'Connor etc. -he wont make the panel this year unless his father is managing the team! He should be playing senior co.championshp with shannon rangers so these are the opportunities for the weaker sides but he did not feature for them at all this year!
My Team;
Gary Kissane(Rahilly's) Colin O'Mahoney(Bally) Mike Moloney(Crokes) Daithi O'Se(Ghaeltacht) Aidan Shine(Dromid) Killian Young(Renard) Shane Enright(Tarbert) Alan O'Sullivan(Tuosist) David Moran(Rahilly's) David O'Callaghan(Pat's Blennerville) Paddy Curran(Waterville) Johnny Buckley(Crokes) Kieran Leary(Crokes) Tommy Walsh(Rahilly's) Paul O'Connor(Kenmare)
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Post by hitman on Oct 23, 2007 15:20:51 GMT
Alain Creagh is a top class footballer who would be up to the standard but his only problem is pace but he makes up for that with his strength and determination, definitly deserves a chance. Another player who has come back to form after a serious injury ruled him out for a long period is gavan duffy from rahillys. he played centre back for the minors in 2005 when they lost to mayo in the semi, kieran leary and paul o connors year. back playing well for strand rd and will surely be in with a shout
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Post by SteelFixer on Oct 23, 2007 20:17:36 GMT
I heard over the weekend that Tommy Walsh is going to Australia for the year. Is this correct ? If it is he'll be a massive loss to the Under 21's !
A lad that nobody is mentioning here is Francis Wallace form Ardfert. A highly talented and versatile player, he would have an awful lot to offer to the Under 21's. He has a name for being petulent and hard to deal with, but under Pat Driscoll's stewardship, he has matured a lot and his attitude has improved dramatically. He has always operated under the shadow of the likes of Stephen Wallace and John Egan for Ardfert, but anybody who was at Ardferts games last year will tell you that he was their trump card, especially in the County and All Ireland finals. He also had massive games for the victorious Brendans Under 21's in 2006. He would be a much better option than the likes of Michael O' Donoghue or Johny Buckley at wing forward.
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Post by bob567 on Oct 24, 2007 8:38:11 GMT
I heard that Tommy Walsh was goin to australia, but i dont think its for a year omly a few months, just up till about march, not too sure tho. in that case he would be back for the firsrt round, although wouldnt be back in time to play, but could make the latter stages, if they get that far.
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Post by nk02 on Oct 24, 2007 9:54:27 GMT
was there a reason for kennedy not playing for shannon rangers this year , or was it clashing with the minors
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Post by bob567 on Oct 24, 2007 11:47:02 GMT
i dont think it clashed with the minors, cos paud costello togged out for the west kerry and an gaeltacht games, id say he wasnt left play
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Post by osama on Oct 24, 2007 13:17:11 GMT
SteelFixer, in no way, shape or form is Francis Wallace better than Stam in any position.
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Post by JOAN on Oct 24, 2007 16:14:36 GMT
SteelFixer, in no way, shape or form is Francis Wallace better than Stam in any position. Have to agree wiht u on dat. stam is sclass
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Post by Jacko on Oct 24, 2007 16:29:01 GMT
Tommy Walsh is going for 6 months, will be back in late march. Rumors of T. Kennelly using his contacts to get him training with swans while he is there.That might not be 100%??
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 24, 2007 16:38:37 GMT
is there any fear of him staying down there or is he more interested in making the kerry team.
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Post by hugh20 on Oct 24, 2007 16:41:02 GMT
Eoin Kennedy was available of course sure he had to be intercounty players have to be available for county championship games it is a rule!
That is true about Tommy alrght,I actually heard David Moran was also going any truth in this??
There is no way that Francis Wallace is up to this standard and Stam has potential but is far too selfish, I took a note of the East Kerry and Austin Stacks Co.Championship game this year where Stam kicked a total of 8 wides!
Alain Creagh is too slow and the only way u can compensate for this is if u have an advanced footballing brain which in my eyes Alain Creagh does not have!
Patrick Curtin would certainly make the panel except I think he is recovering from a bad knee injury!
I think Goalkeeper could be a problem,something we usually dont struggle with! McAntSaoir doesnt start for An Ghaeltacht and his kick outs are poor! Kissane would struggle and Ger O'Sullivan is another option???
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Post by JOAN on Oct 24, 2007 20:25:14 GMT
ger o sullivan aka spoon is a very good goalie and his kick out are great. He has huge potential
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Post by Jacko on Oct 27, 2007 21:46:40 GMT
Hard to see past Kissane for goals I think. McnSaoir is a bit headless in my opinion, was caught out a few times during his spells with the minors. Also, Kissane has more of a presence due to his size.
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Post by SteelFixer on Oct 28, 2007 0:58:00 GMT
I really don't know on what basis some of ye here are writing off Francis Wallace completely, while talking 'Stam' up to the last. Ye provide absolutely no examples to support any of these assertions.
Stam made a name for himself off the back of a few good performances with the Kerry and East Kerry minors in 2004. Since then he has done absolutely nothing. He performed very poorly for the minors in '05, getting substituted in the semi against Mayo, despite being captain and he has also failed to make an impact for the Under 21's over the last two years, although in fairness the management appears to have been a shambles. I'd give him the benefit of the doubt on all of this if he was playing well for his club and division, however unfortuneately this has not been the case. I've seen a lot of him over the last two years at club level, between the various grades, and he has been very dissapointing. A player with a reputation like his, should be stamping their authority over a game and being a match winner, but on the contrary games have slipped him by, and his play has been littered with bad decision making, mainly in the form of his shooting and taking too much out of the ball - both alluded to by Hugh 20.
Wallace on the other hand has established himself as a top club player over the last year and a half. I've already mentioned his great perfromances in Ardferts All-Ire IFC run, in an earlier post, however he deserves most credit for his performances in Div 1 county league this year, where he has powered a side ravaged by injury and players gone travelling, to contention for a place in the final. As I have stated previously, he is a very versatile player, who can operate anywhere between the half back and full forward line. He is good in the air, has lightning pace and always good for a few scores. I'll be amazed if he does'nt feature in the next Under 21 managers plans.
Finally, players need to be picked on form and merit. Its no good justifying a selection by saying he was good underage, (around 3 or 4 years ago). Thats a nonsense, and is one of the reasons why we have won only one Munster Under 21 in the last 8 seasons.
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Post by kerryeye on Oct 28, 2007 1:49:46 GMT
Are u serious steelfixer.Have u not seen or heard about any Spa game in the last couple of years.Stam scores about 11 or 12 points on average for his club.His scoring record is second to none.He's not being used roght ny kerry.PL ay him at not 13 or 15 and you'll see what he'll do,Class act altogether...........
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Post by AnygivenSunday on Oct 28, 2007 19:17:09 GMT
is there any fear of him staying down there or is he more interested in making the kerry team. On Tommy Walsh, let him off do we need him that much? There are alot of players well capable of takeing his place... i think he is over rated! Give me David Moran any day before him
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Post by JOAN on Oct 29, 2007 1:10:06 GMT
Davis morn midfield ya. But Tommy is best suited on the edge of the square.. For me could be another bomber.. Not moblie eonough else where
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Post by SteelFixer on Oct 29, 2007 2:48:09 GMT
Are u serious steelfixer.Have u not seen or heard about any Spa game in the last couple of years.Stam scores about 11 or 12 points on average for his club.His scoring record is second to none.He's not being used roght ny kerry.PL ay him at not 13 or 15 and you'll see what he'll do,Class act altogether........... Are you for real lad ? Stam averaging 11 to 12 points a game for his club ! Listen here, Maurice Fitz used average around 5-6 points (between play and frees) in club games. Thats a 60 minute game. He average a similar amount for the county in 70 minute games. The likes of Gooch and Dara Cinneide would have similar averages. And you come along and tell me Stam is averaging 11 to 12 points. Is this junior 'B' football, challenge games or backs v forwards in training you are referring to ?? Like I said I have seen a lot of Stam in the local scene over the last two years, and he has not impressed me ! I can't remember seeing too many newspaper reports, waxing lyrical about his displays in this period either !
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Post by Jacko on Oct 29, 2007 13:26:23 GMT
Well I'm not for or against any certain player here, but Stam scored 0-10 of Spa's 0-12 against us when we played them last, that was in county league! Francis Wallace is one of Ardferts most consistent players over last two years and definetly deserves a decent crack at U-21's.
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