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Post by Chinatown on Apr 8, 2012 16:15:52 GMT
Where will this be played?
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Post by stuffoflegends on Apr 8, 2012 16:23:38 GMT
Talks on the radio of double header in croke park? Think it is unfair however you top the league and you might as well have come fourth. no reward. home semi final for first and second in my opinion.
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Post by greengold35 on Apr 8, 2012 16:46:36 GMT
Think it will be in Limerick next Sunday; Cork and Down will go to Portlaoise. Croke Park needs 30000 paying patrons to cover their costs but will hardly get this even from a double header.
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Post by greengold35 on Apr 8, 2012 18:56:47 GMT
Just heard that we will be the curtain raiser on Sunday in a double header in Croke Park with throw in at 2 followed by Cork and Down @ 4
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Post by seamo on Apr 8, 2012 19:10:05 GMT
Just heard that we will be the curtain raiser on Sunday in a double header in Croke Park with throw in at 2 followed by Cork and Down @ 4 Curtain raiser to Down v Cork??? You've got to be kidding! lol I thought April fool's was last week! haha
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Post by no1kerryfan on Apr 8, 2012 20:48:24 GMT
Personally I dont mind another trip to Croke Park will only boost the confidence of the younger players, the inexperienced players such as Paddy Curtain or Johnathon Lyne and Peter Crowley etc. will play in Croke park at least twice by the time the National League is over, im reckoning the final will also be in Croker, this will only help the players even more in terms of confidence and experience.
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Post by Chinatown on Apr 9, 2012 8:43:27 GMT
The Allianz League Football League Division 1 semi finals take place in Croke Park on Sunday next as follows: 2pm Kerry V Mayo 4pm Cork V Down
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2012 9:02:06 GMT
I don't believe you can play too many times in Croke Park. Croke Park will be the venue like in every other year since 1999 that will determine our success or failure in the championship.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Apr 9, 2012 19:07:51 GMT
Croke Park will definitely suit us. The open space will be great against Mayo. Let's face it; we drew against a Mayo team on a high with everything to play for with a bunch of youngsters. We did need the big guns in the second half but we could have won the game. The Gooch was a bit quiet yesterday but that's to be expected in his first game back. He will not be as quiet in the open spaces of Croker. BJ Keane was excellent and so was Sheehan in my opinion. In fact I think all Kerry players played quite well yesterday even though some were well out of position. Donaghy at midfield versus O'Shea was the wrong option in my opinion and I think Scanlon would do better against the physicality O'Shea brings. Scanlon doesn't have the mobility but we have plenty of mobility elsewhere and with Galvin close by it would tire down O'Shea enough to bring on Maher. Maher is the better midfielder in my opinion but both Sheehan (who is a must start I think) and Maher aren't as heavy and strong as O'Shea. O'Shea makes a lot of faults though and is prone to charge forward which Scanlon could stop in my opinion. With regards to forwards I think Gooch, Galvin, Declan, Darren and BJ Keane are sure starts with Curtain, Donaghy,Buckley, O'Leary, O'Callaghan, Geaney and Casey all great options to have as well. Marc will be a sure start as well in my opinion as are Peter Crowley and McGuire. Young, Enright, Lyne, Brosnan and O'Mahony will all play a role at some point. Young did well as a fullback so I think we should keep him there for the semi. Despite some retirements this year I think this rejuvenated Kerry team will do really well in the semi and the final.
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Post by Waterworks on Apr 9, 2012 19:20:18 GMT
Bj keane def didnt have one of his better games yesterday,
was that you in the mitchells pitch watching the womens game yesterday
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Post by shannonsider on Apr 9, 2012 19:58:00 GMT
Croke Park will definitely suit us. The open space will be great against Mayo. Let's face it; we drew against a Mayo team on a high with everything to play for with a bunch of youngsters. We did need the big guns in the second half but we could have won the game. The Gooch was a bit quiet yesterday but that's to be expected in his first game back. He will not be as quiet in the open spaces of Croker. BJ Keane was excellent and so was Sheehan in my opinion. In fact I think all Kerry players played quite well yesterday even though some were well out of position. Donaghy at midfield versus O'Shea was the wrong option in my opinion and I think Scanlon would do better against the physicality O'Shea brings. Scanlon doesn't have the mobility but we have plenty of mobility elsewhere and with Galvin close by it would tire down O'Shea enough to bring on Maher. Maher is the better midfielder in my opinion but both Sheehan (who is a must start I think) and Maher aren't as heavy and strong as O'Shea. O'Shea makes a lot of faults though and is prone to charge forward which Scanlon could stop in my opinion. With regards to forwards I think Gooch, Galvin, Declan, Darren and BJ Keane are sure starts with Curtain, Donaghy,Buckley, O'Leary, O'Callaghan, Geaney and Casey all great options to have as well. Marc will be a sure start as well in my opinion as are Peter Crowley and McGuire. Young, Enright, Lyne, Brosnan and O'Mahony will all play a role at some point. Young did well as a fullback so I think we should keep him there for the semi. Despite some retirements this year I think this rejuvenated Kerry team will do really well in the semi and the final. Flemish, I'm not having a go at you, I know you're a dedicated fan, more than most to be fair...but I can't let that pass...BJ Keane was awful yesterday (partly due to being played out of position) and was duly taken off at half time...Young was bad in the first half, improved slightly as game went on, but is not a full back (or corner back IMO) and the game yesterday merely enhanced this fact to me. Making statements like "all the players played well" is a bit silly aswell, there were clearly a few out of their depth and a few more who under-performed. I don't think its unfair to say that the likes of O'Callaghan and Lyne are not championship material..although in Lyne's case he just needs to bulk up, he has plenty football, so there's plenty time for him. Brosnan looks to me like he is hitting the wall a bit after the long run with Crokes, might be no harm to rest him for at least 1 game. For next week, something like the team that finished the game might be close to what will start. Personally I would start Buckley with Sheehan in midfield to try to get him into the game more and give him at least 1 clear shot at midfield. Something like this possibly: 1. Kealy 2. Marc 3. O'Mahony 4. Enright 5. Crowley 6. Young 7. McGuire 8. Sheehan 9. Buckley 10. Galvin 11. Darran 12. Declan 13. Gooch 14. Curtin 15. BJK
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Post by Jigz84 on Apr 9, 2012 20:37:42 GMT
Croke Park will definitely suit us. The open space will be great against Mayo. Let's face it; we drew against a Mayo team on a high with everything to play for with a bunch of youngsters. We did need the big guns in the second half but we could have won the game. The Gooch was a bit quiet yesterday but that's to be expected in his first game back. He will not be as quiet in the open spaces of Croker. BJ Keane was excellent and so was Sheehan in my opinion. In fact I think all Kerry players played quite well yesterday even though some were well out of position. Donaghy at midfield versus O'Shea was the wrong option in my opinion and I think Scanlon would do better against the physicality O'Shea brings. Scanlon doesn't have the mobility but we have plenty of mobility elsewhere and with Galvin close by it would tire down O'Shea enough to bring on Maher. Maher is the better midfielder in my opinion but both Sheehan (who is a must start I think) and Maher aren't as heavy and strong as O'Shea. O'Shea makes a lot of faults though and is prone to charge forward which Scanlon could stop in my opinion. With regards to forwards I think Gooch, Galvin, Declan, Darren and BJ Keane are sure starts with Curtain, Donaghy,Buckley, O'Leary, O'Callaghan, Geaney and Casey all great options to have as well. Marc will be a sure start as well in my opinion as are Peter Crowley and McGuire. Young, Enright, Lyne, Brosnan and O'Mahony will all play a role at some point. Young did well as a fullback so I think we should keep him there for the semi. Despite some retirements this year I think this rejuvenated Kerry team will do really well in the semi and the final. What game were you at? BJ Keane was anonymous and had a stinker. O' Callaghan is out of his depth at this level and it showed. The whole full-back line were dire in the first half and Killian Young is not the solution to our fullback problem, nor is he a corner back. Killian needs to be on the wing but his form has gone back in the last year or two.
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Post by no1kerryfan on Apr 9, 2012 21:07:57 GMT
Shannonsider that point was very fair, also it would be very hard to disagree with the players you selected in your provisional team the only changes i would make is swap aidan and killian also the fowards are in my opinion positionally incorrect, declan is our full forward and he should stay there put barry john on the wing and have paddy curtain in corner forward, but credit were credit is due you are no fool when it comes to Kerry GAA.
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Post by no1kerryfan on Apr 9, 2012 21:14:23 GMT
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Post by kerrystar on Apr 10, 2012 0:28:12 GMT
Shannonsider that point was very fair, also it would be very hard to disagree with the players you selected in your provisional team the only changes i would make is swap aidan and killian also the fowards are in my opinion positionally incorrect, declan is our full forward and he should stay there put barry john on the wing and have paddy curtain in corner forward, but credit were credit is due you are no fool when it comes to Kerry GAA. Backline is fine - do not think Young is a full back line player at all.O'Mahony is the best option at full back right now. Agree with positional switches. Think Declan should be kept at full forward, when he is in half forward line he tends to come way back the field. The further he is from goal, the better for the opposition, not us.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Apr 10, 2012 2:09:13 GMT
Was I the only one who noticed the class of Curtin's chip-point? I refuse to dwell on some negatives.
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Post by Waterworks on Apr 10, 2012 6:15:25 GMT
total class.
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Post by animal on Apr 10, 2012 8:53:42 GMT
I must say that I'm looking forward to this match. A handy trip for those of us in the Smoke.
Does anyone know why Maher did not start on Sunday? The lad has had bad luck with injuries in the past so I would hate to see this bad look revisit him.
The squad is shaping up nicely though and I expect Jack to pick his strongest available team on Sunday which means another start for Colm Cooper. I also hope and expect Pa Curtin to keep his place. Jack said in his infamous book that for a team to come back year after year you need to face the new year with something new in your armour - this could be a new style of play, a new player - something the opposition has not had to face before. Dare I say it but Curtin could be our "something new" for 2012. I am greatly encouraged by his strength and skill and ability to slot points. He is an effective target man without making us slaves to the long aimless high ball.
There are plusses and minuses in defence. The emergence of Crowley and Maguire is welcome relief. Two confident young lads not afraid to take things on. They're welcome additions. The minus would have to be at full back. How can it be that we are still no closer to finding a man to fill the number three shirt? We seem forever doomed to be putting square pegs into round holes. Now square pegs have served us mighty well in the past but the constant chopping and changing throughout the league points to a lack of certainty and confidence in any one player to fill the role. We've had Marc, Aidan and most recently Killian tried there during the league. The team for next Sunday may reveal what way the management are thinking.
Despite a good league we have many places still up for grabs which is probably no bad thing. Has Brosnan done enough to keep his place? Can Enright stake a more permanent claim? Will they persist with Killian in the corner despite the fact he is clearly more suited to the wing? Do we persist with Donaghy out the field? His game and overall contribution has improved since they moved him out. Will we deploy Declan closer to goal where he can be so dangerous? Personally I'd love to see a full forward line of Declan, Curtin and Gooch.
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Post by lár na páirce on Apr 10, 2012 11:38:05 GMT
The team i would start Sunday
Kealy
Killian Aidan O M Enright
Crowley Marc McGuire
Maher Scanlon
Galvin Darran BJK
Gooch Curtin Star
Lyne Donnacha Buckley O'Leary James O D
Ideally i'd love to play this game without Brosnan,Sheehan & Declan as they have had long periods without a break..Although have them on the bench just in case
Star in the corner could be interesting too...
Holding out for Tom Sullivan's return till the final...
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Post by Jigz84 on Apr 10, 2012 12:33:19 GMT
I'd go with:
Kealy
Enright Marc Young
Crowley O' Mahony McGuire
Sheehan Maher
Galvin Darran Donaghy
Cooper Declan Curtin
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Post by iceman on Apr 10, 2012 12:49:44 GMT
that full forward line looks very exciting jigz84, that would be something like the strongest available team. wasnt at the game sunday but everyone is leaving brosnan out of there team. was he that poor? still think hes the best option at center back. looks like tom o sullivan wont be back at this stage. still one of the best man markers around last season and stilll has alot to offer.
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Post by Jigz84 on Apr 10, 2012 12:56:18 GMT
that full forward line looks very exciting jigz84, that would be something like the strongest available team. wasnt at the game sunday but everyone is leaving brosnan out of there team. was he that poor? still think hes the best option at center back. looks like tom o sullivan wont be back at this stage. still one of the best man markers around last season and stilll has alot to offer. Brosnan was poor alright, very loose and ball-handling was all over the shop, he just needs a break but I fully expect him to be centre-back for the Championship.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Apr 10, 2012 13:42:25 GMT
Flemish, I'm not having a go at you, I know you're a dedicated fan, more than most to be fair...but I can't let that pass...BJ Keane was awful yesterday (partly due to being played out of position) and was duly taken off at half time...Young was bad in the first half, improved slightly as game went on, but is not a full back (or corner back IMO) and the game yesterday merely enhanced this fact to me. Making statements like "all the players played well" is a bit silly aswell, there were clearly a few out of their depth and a few more who under-performed. I don't think its unfair to say that the likes of O'Callaghan and Lyne are not championship material..although in Lyne's case he just needs to bulk up, he has plenty football, so there's plenty time for him. Brosnan looks to me like he is hitting the wall a bit after the long run with Crokes, might be no harm to rest him for at least 1 game. For next week, something like the team that finished the game might be close to what will start. Personally I would start Buckley with Sheehan in midfield to try to get him into the game more and give him at least 1 clear shot at midfield. Something like this possibly: 1. Kealy 2. Marc 3. O'Mahony 4. Enright 5. Crowley 6. Young 7. McGuire 8. Sheehan 9. Buckley 10. Galvin 11. Darran 12. Declan 13. Gooch 14. Curtin 15. BJK Hi, that's perfectly okay even if you were having a go at me. We're here to spout our opinions and vent our thoughts and ramblings. As you've said as well BJ was played out of position, he's still young and was playing a fired up Mayo team that had to get a win with many players around him with even less experience than he has. I don't think they did badly at all. Securing a draw against a Mayo team on a high in a game it was more than likely hard to get motivated for? Young is indeed not a fullback, which we knew already, but what options do we have. I can't see Tom coming out of his sabbatical/retirement yet. I think it was wise of Jacko to play players out of position and to give a few younger players a chance. He left them on long enough to see what they can do. Crowley to me was brilliant in the league and McGuire, Enright and Lyne did enough to make the championship panel. I like what I see in O'Callaghan, Curtin and O'Donoghue but we're spoiled for forwards already. Brosnan has been on the road for a really long time and we have to consider him retiring after this season so we need a back up trained and ready now. Buckley, Geaney and Casey are more guys that will more than likely make it into the championship panel at some point but it all depends on who we have to drop to let them in. I think you're not far off with your team but I still think we need to keep a few of the big guns back as subs. After all, the young ones need experience and I think they did well enough in the game on Sunday to show they can step up. We can always bring on the big guns when we need them and that is a good position to be in.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Apr 10, 2012 15:12:03 GMT
I can't actually make this weekend as I need to go on a beer and oysters trip in the An Rinn Gaeltacht with the parents in law but if anyone is living in Cork and would like to use my season ticket I will print the tickets and send them to you. Not sure if I can just send them as a PDF or if you'd need the season ticket itself as well so must useful for someone living in Cork I suppose.
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Post by betfairking on Apr 10, 2012 22:31:01 GMT
The betting with Paddy Power's:
To win the game (70 Minutes): Kerry 2/5 Draw 15/2 Mayo 5/2
Handicap Betting: Kerry (-3 Points) 6/5 Handicap Draw 9/1 Mayo 5/6
To Qualify: Kerry 1/3 Mayo 2/1
Double Result: Kerry/Kerry 5/6 Kerry/Mayo 6/1 Kerry/Draw 18/1 Draw/Kerry 10/1 Draw/Draw 50/1 Draw/Mayo 22/1 Mayo/Draw 22/1 Mayo/Kerry 4/1 Mayo/Mayo 11/2
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Post by betfairking on Apr 10, 2012 22:56:10 GMT
If Kerry send out their strongest team on Sunday they will annihilate Mayo. On a dry day in Croke Park Kerry at full strength are practically unbeatable. The handicap of (-3 Points @6/5) will not last too long and I advise anybody interested in having a flutter to go in heavy on this.
Mayo have improved in recent times but beating Cork in last years 1/4 Final was a serious false dawn for me as Cork were missing half of their their "strongest 15". Their League form to date has been average and were somewhat fortunate to qualify with just 7 points. They were impressive against Dublin but were lucky to get a second crack at them due to fog coming down on the first occasion where Dublin were well in control in the 1st half.
I will be very disappointed if Jack and the backroom team do not send out the best 15 possible on Sunday with the Final in 2 weeks and the Munster Championship 1st Round just 4 weeks after.
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Post by haryegsnbaken on Apr 12, 2012 20:25:18 GMT
The Kerry Senior Football Team V Mayo in The Allianz League Semi Final on Sunday 15th April 2012 at 2pm. 1. Brendan Kealy (Kilcummin) 2. Shane Enright (Tarbert) 3.Marc Ó Sé (An Ghaeltacht) 4. Killian Young (Renard) 5. Peter Crowley (Laune Rangers) 6. Aidan O'Mahony (Rathmore) 7. Brian Maguire (Listowel Emmett's) 8. Anthony Maher (Duagh) 9. Bryan Sheehan (St. Mary's) 10. Paul Galvin (Finuge) 11. Darran O'Sullivan (Glenbeigh/Glencar) 12. Kieran Donaghy (Austin Stacks) 13. Colm Cooper (Dr Crokes) 14. Declan O'Sullivan (Piarsaigh Na Dromada) 15. Patrick Curtin (Moyvane) Substitutes:
16. Brian Kelly (Legion) 17. Eoin Brosnan (Dr Crokes) 18. Barry John Keane (Kerins O'Rahillys) 19. Johnny Buckley (Dr Crokes) 20. Jonathan Lyne (Legion) 21. Kieran O'Leary (Dr Crokes) 22. James O'Donoghue (Legion) 23. Donnacha Walsh (Cromane) 24. David O'Callaghan St Pat's Blennerville 25.Daniel Bohan (Austin Stacks) 26. Michael Geaney (Daingean Ui Chuis) 27. Daithi Casey (Dr Crokes) 28. Fionn Fitzgerald (Dr Crokes)
Bainisteóir: Jack O'Connor (Piarsaigh Na Dromada) Traenálaí: Alan O'Sullivan (Kerins O'Rahillys) Roghnóirí: Ger O'Keeffe (Austin Stacks) Diarmuid Ó Murchú (Daingean Uí Chúis) Donie Buckley (Castleisland Desmonds)
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Seamus Scanlon is injured Daniel Bohan returns to the panel following an absence since he sustained an injury on the 11th March V Donegal in AFL In Killarney
Strongest team possible.
When is Tomás O Sé being freed from his shackles?
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Post by peanuts on Apr 12, 2012 20:25:35 GMT
Kerry Team V Mayo AFL S/F Thursday, 12 April 2012 21:08 | The Kerry Senior Football Team V Mayo in The Allianz League Semi Final on Sunday 15th April 2012 at 2pm. 1. Brendan Kealy (Kilcummin) 2. Shane Enright (Tarbert) 3.Marc Ó Sé (An Ghaeltacht) 4. Killian Young (Renard) 5. Peter Crowley (Laune Rangers) 6. Aidan O'Mahony (Rathmore) 7. Brian Maguire (Listowel Emmett's) 8. Anthony Maher (Duagh) 9. Bryan Sheehan (St. Mary's) 10. Paul Galvin (Finuge) 11. Darran O'Sullivan (Glenbeigh/Glencar) 12. Kieran Donaghy (Austin Stacks) 13. Colm Cooper (Dr Crokes) 14. Declan O'Sullivan (Piarsaigh Na Dromada) 15. Patrick Curtin (Moyvane) Substitutes:
16. Brian Kelly (Legion) 17. Eoin Brosnan (Dr Crokes) 18. Barry John Keane (Kerins O'Rahillys) 19. Johnny Buckley (Dr Crokes) 20. Jonathan Lyne (Legion) 21. Kieran O'Leary (Dr Crokes) 22. James O'Donoghue (Legion) 23. Donnacha Walsh (Cromane) 24. David O'Callaghan St Pat's Blennerville 25.Daniel Bohan (Austin Stacks) 26. Michael Geaney (Daingean Ui Chuis) 27. Daithi Casey (Dr Crokes) 28. Fionn Fitzgerald (Dr Crokes)
Bainisteóir: Jack O'Connor (Piarsaigh Na Dromada) Traenálaí: Alan O'Sullivan (Kerins O'Rahillys) Roghnóirí: Ger O'Keeffe (Austin Stacks) Diarmuid Ó Murchú (Daingean Uí Chúis) Donie Buckley (Castleisland Desmonds)
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Seamus Scanlon is injured Daniel Bohan returns to the panel following an absence since he sustained an injury on the 11th March V Donegal in AFL In Killarney Players on bench last week that are on the first 15 on Sunday next: Brendan Kealy, Marc Ó Sé, Aidan O'Mahony, Anthony Maher,Paul Galvin, Darran O'Sullivan and Declan O'Sullivan.
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Post by Jigz84 on Apr 12, 2012 20:27:35 GMT
I'd go with: Kealy Enright Marc Young Crowley O' Mahony McGuire Sheehan Maher Galvin Darran Donaghy Cooper Declan Curtin Good to know my crystal ball is working!! ;D
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Post by givehimaball on Apr 12, 2012 20:41:43 GMT
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