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Post by glengael on Feb 17, 2012 17:25:15 GMT
We'll start with the easy questions, will the Crokes be wearing the white jerseys that they wear when playing Stacks ?
Is the game on TG4?
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Post by givehimaball on Feb 17, 2012 17:37:07 GMT
Game Live on TG4 for those not travelling
Throw-in at 2
On the GAA site it's Dr Crokes v Crossmaglen (ie. Dr Crokes first), so I would say Dr Crokes are the home team and will be in black and amber with Crossmaglen changing their colours. Not sure though.
Not a betting man but apparently Dr Crokes are available at 2/1 to win, which seems mighty generous odds to me.
Saw the Crossmaglen performance in the semi and while they looked decent, I don't think Crokes have anything great to fear.
If McConville has an off day I could see them struggling for scores a fair bit. I don't think the attacking threat depth is as deep as with the Crokes forwards.
Really looking forward to this one. Fingers crossed for a fine day.
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Post by kerryeye on Feb 17, 2012 17:42:41 GMT
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Post by dacrokes on Feb 17, 2012 18:18:34 GMT
I think it will come down to the backs on both sides . I think both teams have the forwards to put up big scores . It could come down to the last team on the attack with the last kick . Tough one to call . Im going Crokes by a point or two .
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Post by buck02 on Feb 17, 2012 18:47:54 GMT
The best of luck to Crokes tomorrow.
It will be interesting to see if Crokes change the way they play when they have numbers back keeping possesion until they can work it into space for their key forwards. If they take the ball into the tackle they can expect to be met with a huge challenge from the Cross boys.
The ref will have a huge say in the game. I hope the umpires and linesmen have their eyes open also.
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Post by kerrygold on Feb 17, 2012 19:40:07 GMT
The best of luck to the Crokes tomorrow in what is a huge game for the Killarney club.
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Post by 6 in a row on Feb 17, 2012 19:42:41 GMT
The defensive net of Crokes is going burst tomorrow. It has only being scraping by all season and tomorrow it will burst and we will see what the real crokes are made off
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Post by martym on Feb 17, 2012 19:47:52 GMT
The defensive net of Crokes is going burst tomorrow. It has only being scraping by all season and tomorrow it will burst and we will see what the real crokes are made off so you are not giving them much hope so?
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Post by 6 in a row on Feb 17, 2012 19:59:46 GMT
Nope and either are the papers
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Post by sullyschoice on Feb 17, 2012 20:00:19 GMT
Any odds being give for amount of players on field at final whistle (subs and hangers-on who vault the barrier don't count)
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Post by truthseeker on Feb 17, 2012 21:48:21 GMT
The defensive net of Crokes is going burst tomorrow. It has only being scraping by all season and tomorrow it will burst and we will see what the real crokes are made off Did Jackie Healy Rae ever build that ole pier in Cromane? Up Kerry!
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Post by dacrokes on Feb 17, 2012 22:20:19 GMT
no doubt the biggest test of the year cross are a great team and crokes will have to play excellent to win it they have a chance i could see why everybody would say cross
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Post by caesar on Feb 17, 2012 22:52:51 GMT
I hope the segregation comments dont come back to bite the Crokes because you can guarantee the Cross mentors are going to use it.
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Post by Ard Mhacha on Feb 17, 2012 23:13:16 GMT
Cross aren't a one man team. If McConville has an off day, there's a few players who can grab scores. Aaron Cunningham has been in great form at half forward. We all know what Jamie Clarke can do. David McKenna usually chips in with a point or two from midfield. Stephen Kernan pulls the strings at half forward, and Aaron Kernan is one of the best attacking half backs in the country.
Cross don't know when they're beaten. I remember the Ulster final in 2010. Cross were a few points behind, a man down, and it wasn't looking good. Second half, Cross stepped it up a gear or five, and won easily. Same with Kilmacud last year. Looked out of it a few times, but came back to win.
Crokes are a good side, but I honestly can't see Cross losing this game. They are the masters of club football.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 17, 2012 23:32:44 GMT
I have never seen Cross play but having seen the Crokes brush aside all-comers in Kerry over the last two years, and if Cross are going to master the Crokes they really must be a crack side.
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Post by funuki on Feb 18, 2012 0:39:31 GMT
Is the crokes game definitely live I heard it is the deferred game??
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Post by shannonsider on Feb 18, 2012 1:27:40 GMT
I have never seen Cross play but having seen the Crokes brush aside all-comers in Kerry over the last two years, and if Cross are going to master the Crokes they really must be a crack side. Not picking on you, but how can you not have seen Cross playing..ever? They've been in 4 of the last 5 club finals and live on tg4 countless times, including at least twice in the recent Ulster club c/ship...which by the way, they were very impressive in. Would love Crokes to win tomorrow but I've a feeling Cross will be too strong around the middle third for them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2012 2:44:13 GMT
Best of luck to the crokes tomorrow, would love to see our neighbours win, they deserve it.
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Post by G_S_J on Feb 18, 2012 5:14:00 GMT
I remember watching that it was ridiculous it has to change. The consistant nonsensical stubbornness to change shirts in GAA is hard to comprehend. All the best to Crokes
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 18, 2012 10:17:26 GMT
Shackles off for O’Leary
By Fintan O’Toole
Saturday, February 18, 2012 Kieran O’Leary talks Kerry, Crokes, tactics and travelling with Fintan O’Toole
He started 2012 in an easy, carefree fashion. After 2011 had brought the low of an All-Ireland final defeat with Kerry and the highs of county and Munster titles with Dr Crokes, Kieran O’Leary sat back and switched off.
He headed to South Africa with his girlfriend. Kieran Donaghy and his fiancée joined them on the trip. For 12 days football was off his radar.
They went on a safari, dived with sharks, stood atop Table Mountain and visited Robben Island.
"It was an unbelievable country to visit. I really liked Robben Island. The history stuff was very interesting. You need that break as the football is nearly 12 months round at this stage."
If 2011 was frenzied, 2012 shows no signs of slowing down. Today he’s in Portlaoise with Dr Crokes facing Crossmaglen Rangers, their sparring partners from the 2007 All-Ireland club decider. And irrespective of the result, Kerry will soon come calling.
He won’t complain. Kieran O’Leary’s ascent to being an established inter-county senior has been gradual. He first linked up with the Kerry panel in 2006 but over the following five seasons only saw 31 minutes of championship action.
The apprenticeship took time. With defenders like Mike McCarthy and Tom O’Sullivan shadowing him in training, it was not easy to impress. With forwards like Colm Cooper and Kieran Donaghy ahead of him, it was not easy to get game time. In 2009 he was hindered by a hamstring injury when a call came from Jack O’Connor at the end of the National League.
"He was very fair. I was being dropped off the panel. It was gutting but I accepted it. After that I decided to go to New York for the summer, Smiler (Mike Moloney) from the club was going, and I’d see where I wanted to go with football. It was a great way to unwind. We’d some craic watching the Kerry matches. I remember the Sligo game, sitting alongside Smiler at 9am in a bar. When they got the penalty we knew if Kerry lost, Crokes were out the following week and we wouldn’t have been eligible because we’d transferred over. We celebrated that save well!"
He was back home for the 2009 county final day against South Kerry. Defeat hurt Dr Crokes but by the following January O’Leary was back in with Kerry. He started off in the modest surrounds of the McGrath Cup. To progress, he had to modify his game.
"When I came onto the Kerry panel first, everyone was saying to me you have to bulk up. But you look at Gooch — he is strong, but he never stops practicing with a football. Don’t get me wrong, the physical stuff is important but over the last few years I’ve gone back to the football basics more."
He’s also improved the mental side of his game.
"When I was younger, I used to be very nervous. In 2004 we’d an underage club semi-final and I wouldn’t take a close-range free near the end. We lost by a point and it was on my mind for a long time why didn’t I take that kick. The year after I was playing for the Kerry minors against Mayo in the All-Ireland semi-final. In the last minute, we were down a point and I should have hand passed it over the bar but went for goal and the keeper saved it. It was the sickest feeling to lose that game. But I’ve come on in leaps and bounds. I’d be more relaxed now."
Last summer provided evidence of that. O’Leary was used to spending Munster final day in Killarney on the hill behind the goal or sitting on the bench. Last July he was on the field from the start, his economical movement and passing a key feature of Kerry’s triumph over Cork. But the season ended on a sour note with defeat to Dublin. O’Leary’s All-Ireland final day ended after 24 minutes yet he has not dwelled on that substitution.
"In 10 years time what I’ll think of is the defeat, not being substituted. It was disappointing at the time but it doesn’t bother me now. The defeat was tough but I think it was harder for the management after. The players could at least get stuck back into it with their clubs."
These days he works in Moriarty’s Photo Shop in Killarney and the 24 year-old is satisfied with his lot.
"I’ve a lot of friends away, they were home for Christmas and they’re saying they’re living the dream in Australia. But I’m definitely a home bird. I’ve other priorities. My girlfriend and family are here and the football is a big thing. I’m happy out."
It is a golden period for Dr Crokes. They retained their Kerry senior title last October, a campaign where O’Leary dug them out of holes with big points in tight games against Austin Stacks and West Kerry.
Five years on from losing a decider to Crossmaglen, he has company on the Dr Crokes team this time around in his younger brother David ‘Buddy’ O’Leary, a Kerry U21 defender last year.
"He’s settled in perfectly. We’d mark each other in training and it’d be physical enough. The nickname started with Martin Beckett, a lovely fella from the Crokes who died some years back, who called him Buddy Holly. It’s stuck with him ever since. Everyone calls him that now, even my mother, it’s gas! I myself feel more experienced and I think that’s the same for all the team. Cross are the kingpins and we’ll be able to see now how far we’ve come."
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Post by Chinatown on Feb 18, 2012 10:28:27 GMT
Best of luck Dr Crokes today
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Post by fenit67 on Feb 18, 2012 14:10:22 GMT
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Post by fenit67 on Feb 18, 2012 14:27:22 GMT
Damn! The feed has gone so back to the joy that is Weeshie!
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 18, 2012 14:28:38 GMT
26 minns gone
Crokes were leading 1.05 to a point.
Cross got a goal and a point in a minute
Crokes started well and their defense were on top but Cross have come back into it now
this is according to Wheesie and Co.
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Post by fenit67 on Feb 18, 2012 14:29:18 GMT
Coldrick is very, very whistle happy today with Crokes getting the benefit at this stage
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 18, 2012 14:29:59 GMT
super point by Ambrose from play from 35 yards
1.06 to 1.02 to Crokes
nearly half time
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 18, 2012 14:36:38 GMT
point from Cross from a free in inuury time to make it 1.06 to 1.03
another point from a free from Cross....... 1.06 to 1.04 to Crokes
Crokes defend well deep in injury time......... HALF TIME
Good first half per Wheeshie.
Crokes goal was by Daithi Casey
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Post by fenit67 on Feb 18, 2012 14:36:43 GMT
Crokes should be ahead by more than 2 points
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Post by Ard Mhacha on Feb 18, 2012 14:36:59 GMT
A suspicion of square ball for Croke's goal? I'd like to see that one again.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 18, 2012 14:39:05 GMT
yerra not at all Ard Mhacha ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) are u at the game or "watching" it on the radio
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