West kerry football

[dingle11811]

Whats all the talk about north kerry and south kerry football on here about?You would swear that there is no West Kerry! The footbll back the west is flying at the moment and the o se's and tommy griff will do what they done last year win the all Ireland for kerry!... Dingle for the county championship after we beat south kerry next weekend ?

[Piggy]

West Kerry football is very strong alright,no real poor team as such!

[Mickmack]

If you exclude the o Se clan there has been a poor enough representation over the past 30 years from west kerry in fairness.

[thehighfield]

mickmack said:

If you exclude the o Se clan there has been a poor enough representation over the past 30 years from west kerry in fairness.

Well from that 30 years you can take out the Paudi era. While Paudi was in charge he wouldn't look sideways at a West Kerry player if he didn't play for the Gaeltacht. There were a few Dingle guys that he blackguarded to say the least.

The joke doing the rounds at the time is that he'd almost ask his wife to tog out before he'd ask a Dingle guy to play for him. ;D

[JOAN]

ah now dont pick on paudie.......

[JOAN]

Highfielder for a while out here I though you had to be from West Kerry to make the team... Thank god the see the light now...haha Only messing . Many a fine team back your way and the standard of football has always been good. Big fan of Bingo O Driscoll, The west always has lads making the Kery senior teams down throught he years. There is no fear of ya...
Mickmack you think the west have both Skill and brawn?

[Mickmack]

the west provides a mixture ........it seems

[dingle11811]

Thanks for ur opinions ? Is it dog rufff in north kerry now days thats how yea got big strong dirty footballers?

[countaeciarrai]

it would be nice if the west kerry teams joined again for the co. championship -while dara is still playing - I think they would take the crokes and south kerry

[westkerryman2]

meny west kerry players have ben over looked over d years like Niall Sheehy, Genie Farrell, Johnny & Kieran Driscoll and thats from annasvaul alone

[JOAN]

I would agree with you on that west kerry man.
Dingle 11811 I woould not say NK football dirty.. Hard ... but never dirty

[Piggy]

Ya it isnt as dirty as it was in the 80's and 90's,ive heard stories that would give you nightmares about stuff that happened down the years in north kerry championships

[westkerryman2]

here is a list of west kerry players that have ben over looked over d years
Annascaul
Niall Sheehy
Genie Farrell
Johnny Driscoll
Kieran Driscoll
Bingo Driscoll
Vincent Kinghtly

Lispole
Declan Sullivan
John Dorgan

Castle
Sean O Mahoney
Michael O Se

[kerryeye]

countaeciarrai said:

it would be nice if the west kerry teams joined again for the co. championship -while dara is still playing - I think they would take the crokes and south kerry

I think An Ghaeltacht could do that on their own. their a match for any club in the country.

[peig]

westkerryman2 said:

here is a list of west kerry players that have ben over looked over d years
Annascaul
Niall Sheehy
Genie Farrell
Johnny Driscoll
Kieran Driscoll
Bingo Driscoll
Vincent Kinghtly

Lispole
Declan Sullivan
John Dorgan

Castle
Sean O Mahoney
Michael O Se

In all fairness, wkm2, you have to realise who was in charge of the county teams at the time. Knightly from Annascaul played his best football in the late eighties/early nineties during Ogie and Micky Ned's time. John Dorgan has been an inspirational player for Lispole down through the years alright - I can't remember if he even made the cut at U/21 level - maybe you could enlighten me? I can't place who Declan O'Sullivan is from Lispole. Whatever happened to Jack Ferriter? Did he just lose interest? You may laugh but I reckon Kevin Devane from Lispole should have gotten a chance with the Kingdom! I remember him playing at full back for Kerry at a challenge game against Mayo when the stand in Páirc an Ághasaigh was officially opened ('89 I think). He was some legend! As far as Bingo and Genie are concerned, didn't they get a few games in the Green and Gold?

[SteelFixer]

westkerryman2 said:

here is a list of west kerry players that have ben over looked over d years
Annascaul
Niall Sheehy
Genie Farrell
Johnny Driscoll
Kieran Driscoll
Bingo Driscoll
Vincent Kinghtly

Lispole
Declan Sullivan
John Dorgan

Castle
Sean O Mahoney
Michael O Se

Would'nt agree with you fully here West Kerry man !

The most of those annascaul lads, especially the Driscolls got plenty of chances and extended runs with the kerry team over the years. Bingo in fairness made a good go of it. The other two just did'nt cut it. There frequent coming and going from America did'nt help either. Vince Knightly would be in the same boat.

Your spot on in relation to Genie Farrell and Niall Sheehy. Its well known that Genie and Paidi never saw eye to eye, and the emergence of MFR while Genie was on the long term injury list in 1997 did'nt help his cause. Real shame, because he has being probably the most consistent club forward in the last 10 years. It always baffles me how Sheehy never got a chance, especially considering that at various stages over the last 7 or 8 years, since Breen, Flaherty etc retired, kerry have been accused of been too soft and lacking hard men. He was also very versatile and could play anywhere in defense or midfield. He would have been an ideal utility or league player.

Neither of the four you mention from Lispole or Castle could be considered as being overlooked. A case could be made for Sean Mahony maybe around 1997/8, but in fairness Kerry had good half back cover at that period. Michael Se is a great fielder, but too inconsistent and a bit on the lazy side for intercounty. The two lispole lads are just not good enough.

One man you did'nt mention is Emmett Kennedy from Annascaul. He has being the outstanding and most consistent club midfileder in kerry in the last 6 or 7 years and deserved a chance at some stage in this period. It is a joy to watch him catch balls over the heads of fellas who are 7 or 8 inches taller than him. In this period the kerry management tried out many other midfielders like Kenneth Dillon, Mike Finn, Paul Kennedy and Paddy Kelly, all of whom I feel Kennedy was better than. What came aginst him was probably his size. If you ever watch him he does the basics right, never wasting a ball, always giving the sensible pass. It would have been interesting to see how he faired.

[yourman]

I think you might want to take off that blue and white jersey there steel fixer......if you look back at the results from the last couple of years I think you will find that Lispole have a pretty impressive record against Annascaul when it comes to compeditive games and when i say compeditive games i mean west kerry championship or west kerry league finals.
I have never seen Gene do too much damage against lispole mainly cause of the tight marking from Ronan Caroll,
Niall Sheehy is blind when he goes off on his runs, all he needs is someone to come at him so he can charge throught them, emmet is good but you are codding yourself if you think he is the most consistent midfielder for the last 6/7 years......have you heard of Steven Brosnan??
there are many other lispole players overlooked here too
Declan Sullivan is def county standard
John Dorgan passed it now but why hasnt he played kerry juniors?
Breandan Dorgan
Breandan Hanifin
Shane Sullivan
the list goes on.....

[TheCritic]

I think you might want to take off that Lispole jersey there yourself yourman. I agree totally with your point re Lispole V Anascaul, but as for all those players making the Kerry team I think there may be a small bit of bias in your eyes. If all those players were Kerry standard sure Lispole would be winning the county championship on their own!!
Declan Sullivan, may be the only genuine contender for a place.

As for county championship, the West Kerry set up is a joke by all accounts, one meeting before their first round game, and I think 2 more trainings before the Shannon Rangers game. Sure Anascaunl/Castle or Lispole would have done a better job if they were out on their own!!

[yourman]

I think all the lispole fellas named are quality players and when compared to the annascaul players named they have more potential to wear the green and gold....
I'm not sure if the kerry junior selectors know that lispole players are eligible to play with the juniors?

I dont know who is to blame for the farce of a set up in west kerry but if the players were serious about playing county championship football then there is no reason why they cant get together and commit to giving it a decent shot, no point talking about it in the pub. If dingle and Gaeltacht were back playing with west kerry then its the same players that would be giving out that its only dingle and gaeltacht players that are being picked.

[ArthurG]

There are many west Kerry guys overlooked. Indeed the Gaeltacht has had many. One Player from Dingle missing from the list would include the great Murt Moriarty.

Lispole also had a number of players in that great west Kerry team of the eighties that won co. champioships in 1984 and 1985 (8 players on the '85 team). And none were considered for Kerry at the time.

Greats such as Denis Higgins (Rip) should have been given runs ahead of guys such as Timmy Dowd at the time, but they were not considered because of where they came from. Another guy was Roibeard Casey - a truly legend corner back who was also a near perfect free taker. Show me a corner back in the modern game that can do that?

The great Paddy Connor from Castle also dererves a mention. Small, doged but very gifted.

[TheCritic]

simon78 said:

yourman said:

I think all the lispole fellas named are quality players and when compared to the annascaul players named they have more potential to wear the green and gold....
I'm not sure if the kerry junior selectors know that lispole players are eligible to play with the juniors?

I dont know who is to blame for the farce of a set up in west kerry but if the players were serious about playing county championship football then there is no reason why they cant get together and commit to giving it a decent shot, no point talking about it in the pub. If dingle and Gaeltacht were back playing with west kerry then its the same players that would be giving out that its only dingle and gaeltacht players that are being picked.

dats rubbish an u kno it bout eligibility 4 d juniors,wasnt declan o sullivan playin 3yrs ago,

Wasn't a Lispole man in charge of the Juniors that year?? Tomás Haniffin I think?

[peig]

Who's training the Kerry juniors now?

[dingle11811]

To be honest with u the lispole boys dont deserve a chance okay maybe i would have given them a chance in the past but now.This year playing for west kerry they were poor.I was only at one game ( Because im up in athlone and dont have the time to be comming down every week to watch football matches ) and that was west kerry against shannon rangers ... west kerry very poor and sure what would u expect no training done , my brother from dingle told me it was a desperate set up altoghter.

[TheCritic]

Well to be fair its hard to judge any player on West Kerry performances. Sure by all accounts the castle players won't pass to the anascaual lads and vice-versa, anascaual lads won't pass to Lispole lads! Sure how is a team going to function? I think it needs a total over haul, bring in outside management, without any bias or agenda. Get the guys together training at least a month or two before hand, even once a week. It wouldn't disrupt there club training that much!

[tabbyie]

West Kerry football is competitive enough in all ranks but the big two are very much dominating every competition. It can be hard for the likes of Annascaul who are a decent enough side. Beaten in the Intermediate final last year was very hard for them to take. The Castlegregory minors had a great two years even though this years team is not quite the same as their 2006 counterparts who have been a welcome addition to the senior team and even the Kerry minors.

Lispole are football mad but sometimes they can fall over the final hurdle and not fulfill their ambitions. They probably behind Annascaul in competition with the big two but not by much.

[JOAN]

both clubs are good and they have always gotten results. Always thought west kerry produced good footballers

[simon78]

thecritic said:

simon78 said:

dats rubbish an u kno it bout eligibility 4 d juniors,wasnt declan o sullivan playin 3yrs ago,

Wasn't a Lispole man in charge of the Juniors that year?? Tomás Haniffin I think?

ya twas tomas hanafin but i'm sure if he wanted to b involved again he wud have bn asked n

[simon78]

peig said:

Who's training the Kerry juniors now?

tis up 4grabs now but buddy grady was in charge 4 d last 2yrs

[tabbyie]

Gan dabht they have Joan but they really need a breakthrough either promotion or success in other championships. Sometimes you'd wonder if it's really beyond them. Individual footballers good...team success not so good

[peig]

I've been away for the past eleven years so I don't even know who's on the West Kerry management team. Could someone enlighten me please? I think TheCritic has hit the nail on the head, though. Bringing in outside management would indeed raze the bias and begrudgery (that is clearly rife by all accounts) to some extent.