diehard
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Post by diehard on Jun 15, 2007 13:18:49 GMT
Lios Pól have indeed produced some fairly decent players over the years but the vast majorty of them have fallen well short of the Kerry standard. In truththey are their own worst enemies. If they could stay off the drink for 5 minutes and concentrate they would have a great chance of moving forward. However their usually too busy gettin themselves into a state of complete and utter inehibration in the Rock and Pop or some other such Pub in Dingle. Less drink and more play is what is needed.
The propect of any west kerry reunification is a none runner too much division between the clubs no cohesion. I played on a west kerry minor team years ago and some of the losers from castle and abhainn na scail they had playin was scandalous. There more interested in makin sure every club gets equally represented than puttin the best 15 out on the field its all where your from not how could you are. East Kerry and south kerry have shown that regional saids can compete but this only highlights what poor a job has bene done with west kerry through the years. Gaeltacht and Dingle were dead right to get out when they did.
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Post by westkerryman2 on Jun 16, 2007 15:30:06 GMT
Declan O'Sullivan played with the minors for 2 years in 2001 & 2002 the u21s in 2003 and 2004 and was on the juniors in 2005. As far as i no John Dorgan hasent played with kerry. As for Jack Ferriter last i heard he was playing in cork but was going to come back to dingle for his last year
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Jacko
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Post by Jacko on Jun 17, 2007 14:43:16 GMT
Steel fixer i totally agree with you Re: Emmet Kennedy. Undoubtly the most underated midfielder in the county, and the most consistent. If he was 2 r 3 inches taller And not forgetting his fellow clubman Niall Sheehy. In fairness to Niall he got a chance with the Juniors a couple of years back, think he was wing back?? The theories about Annascaul lads not passing to Lispole and all that, thats pure rubbish. I agree with the fact that teh preperation has been very poor, but there is no such a thing as not passin "because he is from Lispole" or anything of the like. I was at the two West Kerry games this year, yes they played poorly, but in fairness they were without the most consistent club forward in Kerry-Genie. I know one man doesnt make a team, but he is the closest thing your ever gonna see to doing just that.
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Post by westkerryman2 on Jun 17, 2007 18:41:20 GMT
cant beleve i forgot Emmet Kennedy can anyone name a better fileder for his size? Niall Sheehy was on the juinors but id say he just got sick of waghting to b called up
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Post by ArthurG on Jun 18, 2007 12:49:52 GMT
Emmet Kennedy reminds me of Teddy McCarthy in the way he can spring off the ground to field a ball. He is a relatively small player but seems to field an amount of ball.
Weeshie Lynch was another Annascaul man that never got a run. How many defences did that little man destroy with his knack of goal scoring?
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Jacko
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Post by Jacko on Jun 18, 2007 17:16:46 GMT
The West would have some team if Dingle and Ghaeltacht were with them, just dreaming:
Gearoid O Shea
Ronan Carroll Marc O Se Adrian o Donnell Tomas O Se Tommy Griffin Niall Sheehy
Darragh o Se Emmet Kennedy
Declan O Sullivan Aodan mcGearailt Jaime Driscoll? Dara o Cinneide Genie Farell Brendan Hanafin?
Maybe bit if-y on one r two, but iv obviously left some few out un-intentionally. That would beat every team with exception of South Kerry??
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Post by peig on Jun 19, 2007 11:16:22 GMT
The West would have some team if Dingle and Ghaeltacht were with them, just dreaming: Gearoid O Shea Ronan Carroll Marc O Se Adrian o Donnell Tomas O Se Tommy Griffin Niall Sheehy Darragh o Se Emmet Kennedy Declan O Sullivan Aodan mcGearailt Jaime Driscoll? Dara o Cinneide Genie Farell Brendan Hanafin? Maybe bit if-y on one r two, but iv obviously left some few out un-intentionally. That would beat every team with exception of South Kerry?? Interesting to see you haven't included Rónán Ó Flatharta or Roibeárd Mac Gearailt in that set up...
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Jacko
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Post by Jacko on Jun 19, 2007 12:11:16 GMT
Like i said, i've un-intentionally left a few out. Please, giv me your 15. Everyones will be different.
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Post by kerryeye on Jun 19, 2007 12:16:07 GMT
Did u notice he also forgot a certain Diurnmuid murphy,all star in 04 and 05.And the kerry all ireland winnin midfield combination cant even make it together,i think a bit biased,if i was pickin the team it would look like this
Murphy
Daithi o Se Marc o se Ronan carroll
Tomas o se Ronan o flathartha Niall sheehy
Dara o se Tommy griffin
Declan sullivan roibeard mac gearailt Genie farrell
Aodan mac gearailt Dara o cinneide David Geaney.
Think Castle,lispole and annascaul would find it hard to have many representatives with an Gaeltacht there.
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Post by Jacko on Jun 19, 2007 12:24:01 GMT
I apoligise about Murphy, totally skipped my mind. But Tommy Griffen ahead of Emmet Kennedy? I disagree with that. Admittally griffin is a pure work horse, he will hassle and run all day, but its Kennedys fielding ability that, in my opinion gets hin in ahead. As for Daithi Se, that is biased. granted that he was a Kerry Minor, but not a hope would he start. As for Geaney, good player also, but a "bit hot and cold" me thinks? Seen him marked out of games a few too many times.
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Post by kerryeye on Jun 19, 2007 12:31:57 GMT
I apoligise about Murphy, totally skipped my mind. But Tommy Griffen ahead of Emmet Kennedy? I disagree with that. Admittally griffin is a pure work horse, he will hassle and run all day, but its Kennedys fielding ability that, in my opinion gets hin in ahead. As for Daithi Se, that is biased. granted that he was a Kerry Minor, but not a hope would he start. Tell that to Pat o Shea,or Jack o connor or even Paidi O Se who've all picked Griffin.Think Griffin is worth his place in midfield.Would you have kennedy midfield against Cork in a fortnight so?? Daithi o se is a class footballer,ive no reason to be biased towards him. This would be a very hard team to pick if it was together in championship,so many good players down west
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Jacko
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Post by Jacko on Jun 19, 2007 12:41:19 GMT
Wel in fairness, it doesnt look like griffin will start ahead of Quirke either! Obviously you couldnt throw Kennedy in at the deep end in a munster final, but i reckon he is a far better player than Griffin. Are you tryin to say that daithi Se is one of the two best corner backs in west kerry? I totally agree with you saying that the team would be hard to pick, and wat ever we say, the team would be different anyway. Ahh, the joys of this Forum ;D ;D
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Post by kerryeye on Jun 19, 2007 12:49:01 GMT
Exactly. ;D Sure it would be no good if we agreed with each other.
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Post by ArthurG on Jun 19, 2007 12:59:57 GMT
Tommy G at no.7 for me with Rob at No. 9. From what I hear Ronan Carroll is traveling, so I'd have Brendan Kelliher replace him at No.2. Niall sheehy - no way in the world. Too loose and sees no teammate.
David Geney surely is not a corner forward, perhaps he'd get in at No.10 with Brendan Hanafin sneaking the corner forward position.
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Post by Jacko on Jun 19, 2007 13:02:38 GMT
Isnt Kelliher a wing r centre back usually? How bout Jason Murphy dingle at corner? Jst throwing a few out der!
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Post by TheCritic on Jun 19, 2007 17:51:23 GMT
Did u notice he also forgot a certain Diurnmuid murphy,all star in 04 and 05.And the kerry all ireland winnin midfield combination cant even make it together,i think a bit biased,if i was pickin the team it would look like this Murphy Daithi o Se Marc o se Ronan carroll Tomas o se Ronan o flathartha Niall sheehy Dara o se Tommy griffin Declan sullivan roibeard mac gearailt Genie farrell Aodan mac gearailt Dara o cinneide David Geaney. Think Castle,lispole and annascaul would find it hard to have many representatives with an Gaeltacht there. Well by the looks of it Dingle would only get 3 places, Geaney a dodgy one at that. Poor performance for a division one county championship team!!
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 19, 2007 17:53:20 GMT
you'd fancy that west kerry to beat the present south kerry team in the championship
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Post by tomthetrout on Jun 19, 2007 22:44:33 GMT
my best west kerry team at the moment would be 1 d murphy 2 j murphy 3 muiris mac gerailt 4 marc o se 5 tom se 6 ronan flaherty 7 mickey kennedy 8 dara se 9 tommy griff 10 declan sullivan 11 rob mac gerailt 12 j bawn brosnan 13 genie farrell 14 aodan mac gerailt 15 david geaney/sean cocco connor
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Post by westkerryman2 on Jun 20, 2007 15:01:28 GMT
Was probaly over shadowed by his brother but Johnny Doyle was a good player in his day
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Post by kerryeye on Jun 20, 2007 15:06:53 GMT
Would u not have dara o cinneide on the team tom
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Post by dingle90 on Jun 20, 2007 15:32:16 GMT
the last two captains to win under age titles for kerry wer from dingle, minors-jack ferriter and u21- diarmuid murphy!
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Post by kerryeye on Jun 20, 2007 15:40:33 GMT
Wrong,kerry u-21s 98.brian scanlon listowel.sorry to be the one to inform you.Murphy wasnt even the second last--liam hassett 96.
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peig
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Post by peig on Jun 20, 2007 17:52:40 GMT
the last two captains to win under age titles for kerry wer from dingle, minors-jack ferriter and u21- diarmuid murphy! And anyway, what has that got to do with the price of turnips?
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Post by peig on Jun 20, 2007 17:54:39 GMT
Would u not have dara o cinneide on the team tom My sentiments exactly. I'd have Ó Cinnéide in there anyday instead of Genie Farrell... *cough, cough*
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Jacko
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Post by Jacko on Jun 20, 2007 21:34:15 GMT
Thats a bad cough there Peig ;D
Who has been one of the best club players of the last few years in yer opinion? Does Genie Farell fit that description? I think so. He is in good shape for a 34 year old!
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Post by tomthetrout on Jun 21, 2007 11:34:51 GMT
i do feel dara o cinneide time is up he has been the best free taker in kerry since maurice fitz
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Post by ArthurG on Jun 21, 2007 12:57:38 GMT
Genie might do alright on this particlar team if picked in the corner. I feel he is over relied on when playing at full forward and does not bring other players into the game. His trademark is drawing a foul from the back by tripping over at the hit of a touch. Cinneide certainly would make the team. As for Brendan Hanafin being over-rated, I have to disagree. The few times I've seen him, he appears very strong and impossible to stop, and from what I hear is regularly Lispole's top scorer.
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Post by Jacko on Jun 21, 2007 20:31:54 GMT
Agree with what your saying about Breandain Hanafin. He is not the quickest, but when he has the ball in his hands its hard to get it off him. also very acurate.
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Post by tomthetrout on Jun 27, 2007 16:58:32 GMT
tom the trout knows exactly
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Post by tomthetrout on Jun 30, 2007 12:12:43 GMT
no he is not he had alot of chances to make kerry teams
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