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Post by Mickmack on Sept 22, 2005 19:01:19 GMT
Do you do anywork Austin Stacks Abu!
Where could a fella apply for a job like that
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Post by lostinmayo on Sept 22, 2005 19:37:25 GMT
[quote author=dermot board=general thread=1125901180 post=1127400946 Didn't stop you copying it though did it ?
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Dermot, all we're copying is bringing players back behind the ball, the so called blanket defence, which obviously works as the 3 best teams are doing it. What we're not copying is the rest of the tactics you used that day in 2003, I presume you were at the game or even watch it on video, it was just so cynical, the fouling and the players getting injured and shutting up shop completely at half time, like soccer teams try to do. That's what was upsetting the Kerry supporters that day, we were beat by the better team, but why Tyrone just stopped playing football and played the *e stuff they did in the second half is what pissed people off, watch the game and you'll know what I mean. Tyrone played super football all that year on the way to the semi-final and were very entertaining to watch, then they just decided to play with a win at all costs attituide, which was a sickening brand of football.
And, it has been well documented here that the Tyrone supporters after were just ignorant, totally different to Armagh the year before. That's just what happened, not saying all were ignorant, but there's enough people on this site that have had bad experiences.
Hopefully, on Sunday it will be a highly entertaining game with good football played, no cynical stuff and both sets of supporters get on great
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 22, 2005 21:27:34 GMT
Or to turn the argument back on you Dermot.....
Remember the 1996 semi final between Tyrone and Meath. Meath were appalling that day. Martin O Connell stood on a guys head........... cant think of who it was ........ Canavan I think.
Basically Tyrone were roughed out of it.
Tyrone complained loud and clear afterwards and there was a stink in the media.
Were Tyrone bad losers in 1996? I dont think they were. Canavans antics against McCarthy were beneath contempt. Jordan got a man sent off in the final thru diving after he thru the first punch.
It is too easy to throw the "bad losers tag" when a legitimate complaint is made.
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Post by kerrydoc on Sept 23, 2005 7:38:49 GMT
so wee pete goin to start but will he last or will he be subbed at half time and brought back on for the last 10 ala 2003,the plot thickens ;D or will he disgrace himself and get red carded (again)? oh happy days..... ;D ;D
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Post by kerryman on Sept 23, 2005 7:46:15 GMT
I'd rather see Canavan start - have TOm Sullivan on him while Tom is fresh. Canavan wouldn't notch up much from play then
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Post by dec on Sept 23, 2005 9:40:08 GMT
I think Peter C will start alright...for the following reasons..
Tyrone will have to start well against Kerry and not let Kerry into their routine.. By starting Canavan they will have their best 15 on and try to lead the game from start to finish..
The worst case for Tyrone is to see Kerry five six or seven points up at half time...
I think Tyrone may have some ploy where Canavan 'gets injured" kicked or something so he has to come off for a while to give him a break. In the process he might get a Kerry player in trouble. He will have a big huge bandage when he comes back on and the Tyrone crowd will be crazy and drive their team on IF (as Tyrone hope) the game will be close going into the last 20 mins..
Canavan to start..get injured and miraculously recover to play on later in the game...
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Post by Original KYFan on Sept 23, 2005 9:42:47 GMT
Couldn't agree more with Lostinmayo & I have tried to make that point several times in the past. There is a big difference between blanket defense & what provoked the terminology used by Pat Spillane on that awful day 2 years ago. The cynical fouling, feigning injury, biting, and ridiculous trash talking (to name just a few) are the tactics that don't sit well in my stomach!
Let's hope all that nonsense is in the past and we see a good, hard and fair match on Sunday.
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Post by lostinmayo on Sept 23, 2005 11:50:29 GMT
whatever about doing any work during the week, absolutely nothing being done, just can't wait for this game now, sun shing here in Mayo, but it was like Winter this morning, hopefully it'll be nice on Sunday, see the 3 day outlook.
3 Day Outlook: There'll be rain and strong Southerly winds in all areas on Saturday night. The rain will clear Eastwards overnight and winds will become Northwesterly and ease. Sunday will be a cool, bright, breezy day with sunny spells and some scattered showers. These will be mainly in the North and West. Temperatures will be in the low to mid teens. Moderate Northwest winds will later back Southerly and strengthen on Sunday night. Monday will be a milder, but very windy day with strong to gale force South to Southwest winds and some severe gusts. Rain will spread Eastwards to all areas. It will clear on Monday night. Winds will veer Westerly as the rain clears and will continue strong and gusty. Tuesday will be cool, bright and windy with bright or sunny spells and scattered, blustery showers.
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Post by tombo on Sept 23, 2005 11:55:42 GMT
the kerryman hasn't updated on-line yet..............SH*TE
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Post by kerrydoc on Sept 23, 2005 12:18:16 GMT
I think Tyrone may have some ploy where Canavan 'gets injured" kicked or something so he has to come off for a while to give him a break. In the process he might get a Kerry player in trouble. He will have a big huge bandage when he comes back on and the Tyrone crowd will be crazy and drive their team on IF (as Tyrone hope) the game will be close going into the last 20 mins.. Canavan to start..get injured and miraculously recover to play on later in the game... im afraid peter-the-not-so-great will do something exactly like that. i wont be responsible for my actions if that f***** gets one of our lads an unmerited card of any colour!
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Post by Dermot on Sept 23, 2005 12:35:23 GMT
Boys - I'm too stressed to go all over 2003 yet again - Slag Tyrone off all you like - say all the aul crap you have been all along............whatever !
Nice to see yer not bad loosers !........Jeeez - Still can't give over about 2003 - Catch yerselves on....Talk about Sundays match for christs sake !
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Post by kerrydoc on Sept 23, 2005 12:40:00 GMT
dermot, yet again, if we had been beaten fair and square then, as the poem says "we salute a gallant foe/ we back our bags and go". however, we were not beaten fairly and therein lies the anger.
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Post by Dermot on Sept 23, 2005 12:40:10 GMT
Couldn't agree more with Lostinmayo & I have tried to make that point several times in the past. There is a big difference between blanket defense & what provoked the terminology used by Pat Spillane on that awful day 2 years ago. The cynical fouling, feigning injury, biting, and ridiculous trash talking (to name just a few) are the tactics that don't sit well in my stomach! Let's hope all that nonsense is in the past and we see a good, hard and fair match on Sunday. I thought you'd jump on that particular bandwagon ! Wouldn't be surprised if we had the sudden re-appearance of "Fat Tom" and/or "IH8Tyrone" and a few other Tyrone bashers ! Grow up - Lets not go over the same old (very old) arguments again ! It was actually going quite well there for a while - Now your hysteria and paranoia seem to have got the better of some of you again ! The tactical and football talk has gone out the window and yet again yez are harping back to 2003 ! Pity !
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Post by Dermot on Sept 23, 2005 12:46:16 GMT
dermot, yet again, if we had been beaten fair and square then, as the poem says "we salute a gallant foe/ we back our bags and go". however, we were not beaten fairly and therein lies the anger. Ah, would ya grow up man............! Fact - 42 of the 72 fouls were by Kerry ! Fact - 6 out of 10 Yellow Cards were for Kerry ! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.............I'm not getting sucked back into this sh1te again - I want to enjoy Sundays match not listen to a pile of begrudging b*llix about 2003 !
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Post by tombo on Sept 23, 2005 12:46:17 GMT
Keep the head lads.......only a few more days to go! As I said before, that age old arguement can be settled on Sunday! Original KYFan and co.....we'll have some craic here wit Dermot next week me thinks when we bate them fair and square....... By the way Dermot....there's no going into hiding from this forum next week!!!!!!
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Post by Dermot on Sept 23, 2005 12:48:45 GMT
Keep the head lads.......only a few more days to go! As I said before, that age old arguement can be settled on Sunday! Original KYFan and co.....we'll have some craic here wit Dermot next week me thinks when we bate them fair and square....... By the way Dermot....there's no going into hiding from this forum next week!!!!!! Yeah Tombo - Back to Sunday..... ! If you guys win I think there could be a few old faces (posters) making a dramatic re-appearance ! I won't hide if we loose I promise - Just be gentle with me though ! I think I'll actually get off lighter if you win - If we win some of yez will give me hell !
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Post by rangerforever on Sept 23, 2005 12:49:17 GMT
100 Reasons why Kerry are the Kings of Gaelic Football
1. The Miltown Massacre.
2. Mikey Sheehy's chip in 1978.
3. Con Houlihan's description of said chip in The Evening Press. 'Mike Sheehy was running up to take the kick - and suddenly Paddy dashed back towards his goal like a woman who smells a cake burning ... Paddy crashed into the outside of the net and lay against it like a fireman who had returned to find his station ablaze'.
4. Charlie Nelligan weighed 15 and three quarter pounds at birth. Had he been born elsewhere, a career in sumo would have beckoned. Kerry slimmed him down and he gathered seven All Ireland medals.
5. Six players on the Millenium team.
6. 32 All Irelands.
7. 69 Munster Championships.
8. 91 All Stars.
9. Paidí Sé's centenary final 'hello' to Joe McNally.
10. The proceeds from Kerry's 1913 game went towards the purchase of Jones' Road. Croker is Kerry's second home for more than one reason.
11. Jerome O'Shea's catch in 1955.
12. The Kingdom gives other counties great days out. Waterford in '57, Derry in '58 and Clare in '92.
13. The Ghost Train.
14. The Sean Murphy All Ireland of '59.
15. Eddie Dowling drinking 18 bottles of beer at Rineanna before boarding the plane for The Polo Grounds.
16. Eddie Dowling's brilliance beneath the Manhattan skyline, 1947.
17. Sean Walsh catching Dublin clouds in 1979
18. Kerry have better nicknames.
19. The Bracker.
21. Gega.
21. Purty and Roundy.
22. The Bawn.
23. Aeroplane O'Shea.
24. Ogie - the only man to win eight All Irelands in the one position.
25. Der Bomber - The Bearded Giant from Ballybunion.
26. Big Ned Roche's culling of Heffo in '55. Kerry strike a blow for the culchies.
27. Fitzgerald Stadium hosted an All Ireland.
28. Tadhgie Lyne - The Prince of Forwards.
29. John O'Keeffe - The Prince of Full Back Play.
30. Maurice Fitz.
31. Danno Keeffe and Johnny Foley and the famous horseshoe.
32. The 5 in a Row T-Shirts.
33. Jack O'Shea's goal against Offaly in 1981.
34. A meeting of legends. Con Brosnan and Babe Ruth's handshake in Yankee Stadium.
35. The one pair of boots that carried Ballybunion's Bob Stack to six All Irelands.
36. Bob Stack and Dr Pat O'Callaghan rowing out to Loop Head as part of the latter's Olympic training prior to securing gold in Los Angeles in 1932.
37. Four time All Ireland winner, Eamonn Fitzgerald, missing out on bronze medal in the '32 Olympics Triple Jump by four inches. He'd have won gold only for a dodgy ankle.
38. Mick O'Dwyer's training sessions. The wire to wires, 35 nights in seven weeks, 50 laps a night...
39. John Egan driving to training on a flat tyre. Nobody was late for Micko's training.
40. Paddy Kennedy - the other iron man from Tom Crean country, Annascaul.
41. Kerry's Croke Park demolition of Cork in 2002. As good as it gets.
42. DJ Crowley's goal in 1970.
43. Puke Football will never be played in Kerry
44. The Past V Present game in 1968.
45. Paul Russell was the first wing back to score a point from play.
46. The day Tom Long beat St. Vincents on his own in the Dublin County Final.
47. The Killimer Ferry that allows the good folk of West Clare see decent football.
48. Maurice McCarthy won his first All Ireland in 1903. At 70 years of age he cycled all the way from Tralee to Galway to see his son in Merlin Park Hospital, Galway.
49. Connell.
50. Jimmy O'Brien's pub in Killarney.
51. Maurice Fitzgerald, going eyeball to eyeball with Tommy Carr, then splitting the posts against the Dubs in Thurles.
52. The Sheehys from Boherbee - John Joe, Paidi, Niall and Sean Óg.
53. Tommy Doyle, captain in '86, pushing the four minute mile in Tralee.
54. Was it a push in '82? Yes or no, no complaints.
55. Tom Ashe wore the hoops of Glasgow Celtic.
56. Johnny Culloty's save against Offaly in the '69 final.
57. The Spillanes of Templenoe.
58. The one handed catches of Sean Brosnan.
59. Always check your change in Kerry. They could slip you a celtic cross by mistake.
60. Kerry's answer to David Fairclough. Sean Walsh - The Super Sub.
61. Seamus Murphy's versatility.
62. Bill Dillon and his beagles and storing his bacon in the Sam Maguire.
63. The Rock - Kerry's street of champions.
64. Miko Doyle - Four All Irelands before his 21st birthday.
65. Miko Doyle's haircut.
66. Listowel Race week with Sam on the sideboard.
67. The Joe Keohane Roundabout.
68. The Dan Spring Road.
69. The John Joe Sheehy Road.
70. Dickeen Fitz was the greatest GAA man of them all.
71. Weeshie Fogarty's Terrace Talk.
72. Camp - where there's more All Irelands per head of population than any other village in the country.
73. Jack O'Shea V Brian Mullins.
74. Paddy Bawn against Cork in '52. Prevented those hoors from annihilating us in the Munster Final.
75. Mixie Palmer - great horse, better footballer.
76. The Gerald O'Sullivan photograph versus Mayo in 1951.
77. Aeroplane O'Shea's novel idea of writing a book on the All Irelands Kerry lost.
78. Dick Fitzgerald's book 'How To Play Gaelic Football'.
79. Mick O'Connell's 'A Kerry Footballer'.
80. Dr Eamon O'Sullivan's grasp of tactics.
81. 'If you drink ten pints a night, cut it back to five. If you drink six a night, cut it back to three'. Dr Eamon's winning philosophy.
82. The Dunloe Cup.
83. Footballs role in healing Kerry's Civil War wounds.
84. Caid - what old timers still call football in Kerry.
85. The Boston Beer Party. Prohibition was relaxed in Massachusetts for the Kerry footballers on their US tour of '27.
86. An Muantáin - Europe's most westerly sporting haggard; where Dan Kavanagh first kicked ball.
87. All Ireland winners Kerry gave to other counties : Joe Fitzgerald, captain of Dublin in 1942; Mick Falvey, Dublin '42, and the great Jack Flavin, All Ireland winner with Kerry in '37 and Galway in '38. To name but three.
88. Maurice Fitzgerald's pass to Mike Frank versus Armagh in 2000.
89. The Golden Years video.
90. The Bendix Ad.
91. Keeping the Dublin exiles in shape during the golden years, thanks to Micheál O'Muircheartaigh.
92. Putting manners on The Dipper, Aussie Rules in the 80's.
93. The Shronedraugh Warrior - Seamus Moynahin.
94. Kerry's World Tour to Amsterdam, Turkey, Singapore, Jikata, Perth, Sydney, Melbourne, New Zealand, Fiji, Honolulu, San Francisco, Chicago and New York.
95. Kerry had a Tiger before Woods was born. Corner back Tim Tiger Lions.
96. John Kerry O'Donnell. The godfather of New York football.
97. Donie O'Sullivan training with the New York Jets.
98. Paidí O'Sé's All Ireland speech, 1985.
99. Jackie Lyne's quote : 'With them bast**ds of mountains in front of us, and those hoors of lakes behind us, sure there's nothing to do but play football'.
100. The Gooch.
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Post by kerryman on Sept 23, 2005 13:03:14 GMT
Good luck to our boyos on SUnday. We'll be there in full voice. Dermot, enjoy the match! May the best team win
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Post by tombo on Sept 23, 2005 13:11:04 GMT
Absolute classic.......saw it before but it gets better everytime I read.
Along with that poem from (Duchais) yesterday i've printed them out. If Kerry when on Sunday, I'll be the one handing them out to all the Tyrone fans outside Croker on Sunday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by phpearse on Sept 23, 2005 13:16:24 GMT
Good slogan for some kerry banners at the game would be
The Kingdom come Our will be done!!
Go on Tyrone You can Doo'her
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Post by buck02 on Sept 23, 2005 13:42:54 GMT
All the talk is almost over now thank God, its been a long 4 weeks waiting for it. I'm extremely confident we'll do it - I just cant see us getting beat. We're ready for what they're going to throw at us this time and wont be found wanting. 34 has a nice ring to it.
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Post by Dermot on Sept 23, 2005 13:49:30 GMT
Good luck to our boyos on SUnday. We'll be there in full voice. Dermot, enjoy the match! May the best team win Same to you Kerryman and all the rest of yez ! Have a great weekend and enjoy the match yourselves ! Up Tyrone !
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Post by kerrydoc on Sept 23, 2005 13:54:20 GMT
to hell with this, im getting no work done! cant concentrate anymore! go n-eiri go geal le foireann chiarrai de domhnaigh ciarrai abu
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Post by Bucko on Sept 23, 2005 14:06:25 GMT
Can't remember who wrote this, but it gives me butterflies everytime I read it.
Three Minutes to go....
He concentrates on his hamstring, one leg up on the table, keeping it straight, bending his body forward, resting his forehead against his knee, he leaves his head there. The stretch feels strong, someone say something. The manager calls them all to stand up and they start doing the final few exercises together.
There is knocking on the door. The official looks in and tells them to come out now. The door is closed again. The manager calls everyone into a circle.
He hates this. The waiting and the not knowing. It’s like waiting without an anaesthetic for a major operation. He just wanted to awaken this morning, press a button and let the main match begin. This should be the greatest moment in his life, why is he passing through hell before arriving in Heaven?
The manager sounds loud and confident and emotional. Incredibly emotional, asking them questions and questions, and questions. Not looking for answers. Questions.
The single voice races through his body like an electric charge. He wants to shout. He wants to run. He wants to do something. He still stands there and the voice suddenly stops.
The door opens. There is silence outside. The players start seeping through the opening. Down the long dull grey corridor. Suddenly, there is an explosion of colour.
Strangely, there is still no noise. He runs on to the field. He feels light and he starts to run faster and faster. He feels free.
Best of Luck to both teams and supporters
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Post by lostinmayo on Sept 23, 2005 14:22:14 GMT
brilliant, dat's getting me going...... imagine dat feeling, i'll never forget the article written by Killian Burns after the 97 final, superb, the guy should be a journalist, would love to dig it up, anyone got it online?
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Post by vman on Sept 23, 2005 14:42:14 GMT
feckit boys and girls.i'd love to heading up to dublin with ye now.instead i'll have to settle for watching it on my poxy little computer monitor with a jumpy internet feed alone in a small apartment on the other side of the world.and that * ger canning blundering his way through the most important 70 minutes of the year.
would kill to be down on the street outside the merchant saturday night drinking overpriced dublin soup out of a plastic glass. a bit of a crowd. see a few fellas you havent seen since last year. carry on and messing getting wilder later in the evening.... trying to mind the kerry jersey and make sure it is in decent shape on sunday. keep the guinness stains and the kebab sauce off it as much as a fella could. down to coppers then to finish off the night before waking in the morning on the floor of some fella that you know's sister's apartment with four or five other stinkin bodies sprawled around the place and needding a chisel and a mallet to take out the oul contacts. off out the gap the for to find a breakfast roll and a lucozade.trying to keep the ketchup off the shirt. over the to quinns for a bit more action and predictions. nervers are starting to feel a bit itchier and you dunno if its butterflies or last night's porter thats got you're stomach going like two champion gymnast lesbians at it on a trampoline. you see some fellas that look like they slept in a horsebosx driving past in a 1989 mazda 262 painted green and gold with a radio kerry sticker being substituted in the nct disc spot. getting jumpier now walkin down to the park and doubts and worries are starting to seep in and you start second guessing the confidence you had in the kebab shop next to the mercantile the night before. a bit of banter getting in the turnstile and head off to find your seat by yourself coz you couldnt get a ticket with the rest of the boys. watch a bit of the minor game and not really give a * unless kerry are playing. nod at few other nervous looking fellas . when the teams walk out though all that is forgotten an you cant take your eyes off the field for the next hour.
the very best of luck to the boys on sunday.
im sure the craic will be mighty regardless so have a good one.
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Post by Original KYFan on Sept 23, 2005 15:11:30 GMT
Dermot - I think you're the one with some growing up to do...take the valid criticism like a man! Why is it that so many others can comment yet I get singled out...(btw...that question is rhetorical & preferably won't be answered!)
On to the match...can't wait! I honestly cannot ever remember looking forward to a game so much. He're hoping for a brave, skillful, honest, hard and fair display from both sides...this one really has the potential to go down in history.
It's a good thing we don't actually have to talk on this forum b/c I'd say we are all conserving the voices for the match & I, for one, will be quite hoarse on Monday/Tuesday when we do the post mortum.
I would urge all the Kerry fans to really make themselves heard on Sunday...give the lads the support & boost that they so richly deserve.
Here's hoping for 34 in '05!
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Post by Pablo on Sept 23, 2005 15:15:36 GMT
Pub lunch today, excitement getting to me now, probably peaking too early again this year, ah well, with a bit of luck Ill be peaking too early this time again next year and going for three in a row.
Doe's anyone remember Seamus at the Kerry disco after last years final going on about two in a row to the Kerry crowd? You just knew there and then what he and the Kerry team are all about, thats pure hunger.
Anyway, Best Wishes to all the Kerry squad on Sunday, Done us proud again this year, WIN lose or draw on Sunday. I think we can do it, the most confident Ive been before a match for a long time (and not the drink talking there), when Kerry get their purple patch on Sunday I think that they have the potential to blow Tyrone out of it, around the 40 to 50 minute mark and hopefully and kill the game off.
Well thats my wish, hopefully next time I log on it will be with the honour of being from the greatest footballing county, holders of thirty FOUR all Irelands.
UP THE KINGDOM.
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Post by bmackerry on Sept 23, 2005 15:23:28 GMT
Some top class stuff over the past while.
Some top class sheite as well. ;D ;D ;D
Best of luck to all.
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Post by lostinmayo on Sept 23, 2005 15:54:13 GMT
out da gap, psyched, ticket sorted feckin' can't wait, great post vman, sums it up perfectly, don't worry i'll get a few stains on me jersey for you, might see some of ye at the weekend, but i won't even know...
Best of luck to the boys and Jack, this team deserves to be recognised finally, 3 All-Irelands doesn't seem to be good enough, Get in
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