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Post by Mickmack on Mar 5, 2010 23:22:52 GMT
I was always of the view that Mick O Connell would not be able to hack it in the modern game as the spoiling would turn him off.
I got great enjoyment from Veterans post above...I love to hear about the bullyboy getting his comeuppance ..... another South Kerry gentleman Maurice Fitzgerald had no choice but to get down and dirty with Niall Cahalane in the early 90s.
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Post by zygote on Mar 10, 2010 13:41:32 GMT
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Post by patinkerry on Mar 11, 2010 8:43:22 GMT
No rush with Kingdom hero Walsh, insists St Kilda chief By Brendan O’Brien Thursday, March 11, 2010 ST KILDA chief executive Michael Nettlefold has admitted that the AFL side expects great things from Tommy Walsh – but not in the immediate future. The former Young Footballer of the Year’s switch to the oval code has generated huge interest in Ireland and in Australia and there was even talk of the Kerry man being pitched in for his new club’s first pre-season game last month. That didn’t transpire and Nettlefold’s reasoning explains why. "We think he is going to make an outstanding AFL footballer but it is going to take a period of time. If you ask Tommy, his immediate observation about the game in Australia was the intensity of training. "He found that change in dynamic quite different and you have got to be physically prepared to even do the training. It’s been a step up. "We get something like in excess of 100 player rotations in the game. You get a lot of players coming off the ground and going back on the ground quite quickly so that all needs to be factored into the physical preparation work." Walsh has adapted well. He has stripped five kilos from his fighting weight after the first few weeks of conditioning and life off the field has begun to take shape as well with news that his girlfriend has also moved to Melbourne. All in all, keeping a lid on expectations may be St Kilda’s toughest battle after Nettlefold revealed how the crowd cheered every time the Irishman took possession in a recent inter-club practise match. "We are taking Tommy very quietly at the moment. There is a lot of expectation on Tommy in Australia. There is a lot of press. There are a lot of demands being placed on him and it is one of the reasons why we need to take very much a medium-term approach with Tommy. "Make sure he has got the skills, that he settles in properly, so that he can understand the rules, read the game, the oval ball, the way it bounces compared to the round ball. It is going to take him a little while. We are very conscious of that." This story appeared in the printed version of the Irish Examiner Thursday, March 11, 2010 Read more: www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/no-rush-with-kingdom-hero-walsh-insists-st-kilda-chief-114165.html#ixzz0hr7AGESm |
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Post by hotdog123 on Mar 11, 2010 13:05:18 GMT
shane leary has been followed by ricky nixon by all accounts
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Post by Laoch na hImeartha on Mar 11, 2010 16:08:48 GMT
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Post by hatchetman on Mar 11, 2010 16:45:52 GMT
shane leary has been followed by ricky nixon by all accounts Who's Shane Leary? |
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Post by mafi97 on Mar 11, 2010 21:08:13 GMT
This is getting deep! I also agree with your sentiments kerrygold but in my line of work I'm seeing an awful lot of young people finishing their 3rd or 4th level education with no prospects on the horizon despite high quality degrees / PhDs etc. I'm hearing more and more stories of how people are planning to ride out the recession till things pick up. For some people that's further education. Great. Others are doing volunteer work overseas. Great. For a talented young lad it could be two years giving it a crack in OZ. If he fails and comes home he's still a young lad. He hasn't spent 2 years sat on the sofa and he might have managed to get some 3rd level course done as well. You have to see the appeal in that especially if he's the adventurous type. We're still talking about a handful of young lads and their departure won't be the tipping point in the economic recovery. It might be the tipping point of a county's All -Ireland aspirations but that's another story altogether!! In the 1840's we lost the spuds, thats all limbs Johnny. We had the WW1 in the '10s, the civil war in the 20's, wall street crash in the 30's, WW2 in the 40's, the 70's, 80's and much of the 90's were bleek. Indeed probably 90% of time in Ireland has been about hard times. Thats life and reality you do your best. The Germans went home at 10 pm, the Irish partied till 6am. Collectively we all indulged and collectively we all have to face up to reality, facing and admitting a problem is the start of the cure. Negative equity will come and go in time. Whether we like or loath the policy makers at Leinster house we have to let them get on with it. Eventually public opinion will demand that they sort it out. The '00s will probably be one of great history lessons for a new young republic like Ireland. Now we need risk takers and visionaries, people who will make a difference in their own regions. Metaphorically speaking we need people who are prepared to break rocks with their bare hands to open up all potential channels. Irish people over the decades have never been afraid of hard graft. Animal. In your last paragraph your correct, no the handful wont tip the economy but your also correct in saying it might tip a counties aspirations. Maybe its not a different story though altogether. South Kerry's footballing legacy was created because people like the two Mickos choose to stay at home and play for Kerry. Micko Connell came home from NY to play for Kerry, Micko Dywer opened a garage and developed a business to devote much of his life to Kerry football. Have you ever wondered what Kerry football might have been like if the two Micko's had left Ireland in the bleak 50's. How might the psyche of Kerry football people be different today without the folklore associated with both men? Great players chosen to wear the colours of the traditionally strong winning counties should think deeply before choosing different paths. Great All-Ireland winners are chosen and privileged and make a real difference to the ordinary people around them. They lift the mood of people and develop mindsets that last for generations. In bad times latching onto the achievements of the caretakers of the green and gold jersey carried us through difficult times and give us an unique identity. Immigrants around the world latched onto All - Ireland victories associated with Tipp, Cork, Kilkenny, Dublin, Galway and Kerry. Sometimes recognising such responsibility and appreciating it can be hugely fulfilling. OK the country is in the mire right now, but it pass it always does. Right now we need people that will break rocks with their bare hands and make a difference. Not everyone can achieve that, only some can do it, few are chosen. I'd congratulate Pat Gilroy for his comments, if Kerry don't win the All-Ireland in '10 well then I hope now its Dublin turn. An All- Ireland victory in the capital could be hugely powerful in turning the tide of gloom for the country. Bleakness is sitting in mud hut in Haiti the day a volcano strikes or lifting the spuds in 1845 to find them all rotten with 9 or 10 kids standing at the door of a thatched cottage crying. Maybe negative equity and NAMA now is our blight of the 1840's, though not as bad. It will pass, it always does. It is only March - but, will there be a better post this year???. I only dip in here for light relief and an opportunity to glory in my good luck in being born in Heaven's Reflex. So I hate to see the virus of national self-loathing invade this Board. I do understand peoples' angst - but we are far better equipped than anytime in the past to move on to a new level in our development as a modern State. KerryGold is right - it will pass. Just one thing - never before have we been so beset by so many ill-informed, agenda driven, studio hopping, profile building "commentators" who, between all of them, will not contribute one job, one Euro in Exports or one innovation. Their stock in trade is bad spin, bad news, bad vibes. We have problems to solve. But that is what they are - problems to solve. And we are equipped to do that. End of sermon. Back to the Football. And read Kerrygold's post again. |
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Post by Brollysbrain on Mar 11, 2010 21:28:49 GMT
Hi lads i dont want to be so cynical here but if i wanted an update on the economy i would watch the news!!! Lets get back to the things that really matter like kerry gaa.... And for tommy and david well then lets move on walsh is gone best of luck to him who in their right mind would turn such a chance down. For big dave then it is quite clear the man wishes he was out there with tommy chattin up the aussie birds and appearing on home and away!!! It is his ambition to play in the AFL and to be honest i think he will end up there next year... hate to be so harsh but sure if there is one thing we will always have in kerry it is footballers well unless they all head for this new trend of 'college commitments'!!!!!
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 12, 2010 18:30:54 GMT
Hi lads i dont want to be so cynical here but if i wanted an update on the economy i would watch the news!!! Lets get back to the things that really matter like kerry gaa.... mossiecorridan you are very naive if you dont think that Kerrys football fortunes are not linked to the economy. Paidi O Se's parents met in London and decided to return to Ireland. Because of that Paidi, Darragh, Marc and Tomas played for Kerry and contributed hugely to 14 of Kerrys titles at senior level. What if they have decided to raise their family in London. Where would Kerry be without the OSe clan. On a lighter note..... I got this today; Financial Crisis explainedSean is the proprietor of a bar in Dublin. He realizes that virtually all of his customers are unemployed alcoholics and, as such, can no longer afford to patronise the bar. To solve this problem, he comes up with a marketing plan that allows his customers to drink now, but pay later. Sean keeps track of the drinks in a ledger (thereby granting the customers loans). Word gets around about Sean's "drink now, pay later" marketing strategy and increasing numbers of customers flood into Sean's bar. Soon he has the largest sales of any bar in Dublin. By providing his customers freedom from payment demands, Sean gets no resistance when, at regular intervals, he substantially increases the prices for wine and beer. Consequently, Sean's gross sales volume increases massively. A young and dynamic under-manager at the local bank recognises that these customer debts constitute valuable future assets and increases Sean's borrowing limit. He sees no reason for any undue concern, since he has the debts of the unemployed alcoholics as collateral. At the bank's corporate headquarters, expert traders figure a way to make huge commissions, and transform these customer loans into DRINKBONDS, ALKIBONDS and PUKEBONDS. These securities are then bundled and traded on international security markets. Naive investors don't really understand that the securities being sold to them as AAA secured bonds are really the debts of unemployed alcoholics. Nevertheless, the bond prices continuously climb, and the securities soon become the hottest-selling items for some of the nation's leading brokerage houses. One day, even though the bond prices are still climbing, a risk manager at the original local bank decides that the time has come to demand payment. He so informs Sean. Sean then demands payment from the alcoholic patrons, but being unemployed alcoholics, they cannot pay. Since Sean cannot fulfil his loan obligations he is forced into bankruptcy. The bar closes and the eleven employees lose their jobs. Overnight, DRINKBONDS, ALKIBONDS and PUKEBONDS drop in price by 90%. The collapsed bond asset value destroys the banks liquidity and prevents it from issuing new loans, thus freezing credit and economic activity in the community. The suppliers of Sean's bar had granted him generous payment extensions and had invested their firms' pension funds in the various bond securities. They find they are now faced with having to write off his bad debt and with losing over 90% of the presumed value of the bonds. His wine supplier also claims bankruptcy, closing the doors on a family business that had endured for three generations, his beer supplier is taken over by a competitor, who immediately closes the local plant and lays off 150 workers. Fortunately though, the bank, the brokerage houses and their respective executives are saved and bailed out by a multi-billion Euro no-strings-attached cash infusion from their cronies in government. The funds required for this bailout are obtained by new taxes levied on workers who have never been in Sean's bar. Now do you understand? |
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 12, 2010 22:01:44 GMT
Excellent piece Mick. Sums up the crap.
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Post by SteelFixer on Mar 14, 2010 2:03:23 GMT
I was always of the view that Mick O Connell would not be able to hack it in the modern game as the spoiling would turn him off. I got great enjoyment from Veterans post above...I love to hear about the bullyboy getting his comeuppance ..... another South Kerry gentleman Maurice Fitzgerald had no choice but to get down and dirty with Niall Cahalane in the early 90s. I too was always of the opinion that Mick O Connell didn't like to mix it. Now unfortuneately he was a few years before my time, and I never had the pleasure of seeing him play, but I always understood the one major criticism of Mick O Connell to be that, when the going got tough in Croke Park - he wasn' able to mix it with the Joe Lennon's, Mick Garrett's, Jarlath Carey's and Willie Bryan's of this world !!! With Regards Maurice Fitz, don't anybody be under the illusion that he was soft. I was in college in Cork around the same time as Maurice and used go to a lot of the college games. Sigerson football was very tough and physical in those days, with the winter conditions adding to the attrition. It was real survival of the fittest stuff. One of the best displays I ever saw from Maurice was in an encounter with one of the Northern Colleges (either St Mary's or Queen's - can't remember). This game would have made some of those Armagh & Tyrone encounters from the middle part of the last decade look like a tea party. Maurice started out at Full Forward tha day - but with injuries and sendings off during the course of the game - he ended up down at centre half back to the best of my recollection. I have always had to afford myself a wry smile in recent years, when I heard commentators announce that Maurice would not have adapted to modern day football. Getting back to the subject of this thread heading, I feel enough has been said on this issue, and we should all just move on. Kerrygold's post above is very compelling. Mick O' Connell said one time that more promising young footballers than him emigrated from South Kerry and never came back. We are lucky that we held on to the two Micko's, but you can be sure we lost a few gems aswell. Thats life. Tommy Walsh has made his decison, and that should be respected. A gun should never be put to a fella's head with regards playing football. I respect the decison of lads who commit their life exclusively to the cause, as well as the decision of the lads who opt out for whatever reason (Tommy Walsh, Ger Reidy etc). Going on todays outstaning U21 performance.....there is many players ready to take over the mantle from Tommy. We should be focusing on these from now on. |
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Mar 27, 2010 17:06:46 GMT
Swans were defeated by St. Kilda today.
Sydney Swans 3.3 7.5 9.8 13.10 (88)
St Kilda 5.0 9.0 13.4 15.6 (96)
Walsh didn't play and Kennelly had to come off with a concussion.
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Post by dod2102 on Mar 31, 2010 6:12:04 GMT
Watched the game tadhg settled back in ok but got some welcome back,with a ball hanging in front of him was elbowed in 2 back of the head,cop that:)
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 28, 2010 7:44:24 GMT
By Liam Kelly
Murphy rebuffs Nixon
Donegal ace has no intention of leaving for AFL
Wednesday April 28 2010
DONEGAL shooting star Michael Murphy is saying 'thanks, but no thanks' to overtures from Australian Rules scout Ricky Nixon.
Murphy (20) plays his last match at U-21 grade in the Cadbury's All-Ireland football final against Dublin in Cavan on Saturday evening, and after that he has his sights set on a long career as a county senior footballer.
Last year's Young Player of the Year admits: "I'm a home bird at heart."
The big man from the Glenswilly club has settled in as a freshman at DCU, where he lives on campus. Murphy did engage in contact with Nixon early in the year, but said that had more to do with "common courtesy" than anything else.
"It was just more out of common courtesy than anything I was speaking to them. There's been nothing, absolutely nothing, in my mind that's changed," Murphy said. "I want to stay here and keep continuing to play football for Donegal, and trying to get my degree at college.
"Anyway, I'm a bit of a home bird. Moving to Dublin has been enough for me never mind the far side of the world."
Murphy is in big demand for county, club and college, but missed out on DCU's Sigerson Cup win because freshers aren't allowed play in the main third-level football competition.
Burn-out is not a word that he would apply to his situation. "I don't think it's been too tough. When you're winning, games can't come quick enough. If you were on the other end of getting defeats and drubbings every weekend it would be a different story.
"Things are going relatively well at the moment. Thankfully the managers at both club and college and both senior and U-21 county level have been in regular communication with each other," said Murphy.
An All-Ireland medal is a tantalising prospect for a Donegal side which has emerged from a competitive Ulster championship. Can they go all the way at the expense of the Dubs? Murphy certainly hopes they can.
"Any All-Ireland final is a massive game. It's something you always dreamed of as a young fella.
"With the way our performances have been going, they've been steadily improving from one game to the next, and hopefully that'll be the case again come the All-Ireland final on Saturday," said Murphy.
Meanwhile, Dublin team manager Jim Gavin eagerly awaits the challenge of the final, and feels that the quality of football underlines the value of the U-21 grade to the GAA.
"I think it would be a regrettable decision for the GAA if they did finish the U-21 competition. I'm a traditionalist, and I've seen the fight and the competitiveness in each of the games throughout every province.
"It's winner takes all and it's a very good product to promote Gaelic football. The games are always very competitive. There's fast, open football and it's another opportunity for guys to represent their counties.
"I think the U-21 campaign is really a better benchmark for senior grade, rather than minor. The minor these days is two years too soon for senior grade, so I think it (U-21) benefits the whole organisation," said Gavin.
He also suggests it's regrettable for the players that the match is not being played at Croke Park because they miss out on a chance to play an All-Ireland on the hallowed turf at Jones's Road.
"It's not about Dublin," Gavin said. "It's about the overall competition, and whether you want to give guys from all of the 32 counties an opportunity to play at Croke Park at the end of the campaign.
"That's what it's about. It's not about Dublin. We'll play wherever we're brought. We've no complaints with Cavan, but it would be very nice for every county concerned to get a chance to play at Croke Park."
- Liam Kelly
Irish Independent
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Post by jerryewe on Apr 28, 2010 17:31:17 GMT
Is this true that my club man j.b spillane is off to geelong? rumours wer circling quietly wen e turned down the chance to play kerry u21! supposedly he has been told to cut down on the g.a.a games and hit the gym!!iv been told his on a very intensive programme!!just wanted to know if there is any truth in this? If he is a clubman I am sure u are in a better position than anyone to perhaps go and ask him rather than spreading baseless rumours. |
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Post by G_S_J on May 4, 2010 18:34:52 GMT
Just went searching through a St Kilda forum for Tommy's name, it came up with some very complimentary quotes from the usually very hard to please Ozzie's.
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Post by A.N. Other on Jun 3, 2010 13:06:00 GMT
Kicked 2 goals and 3 overs i think it was, doing well, kicking isn't great but it'll get there eventually
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Post by patinkerry on Jun 3, 2010 13:57:07 GMT
Ah well, he did us well last year. Was that a training match, crowds look small
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 4, 2010 5:59:27 GMT
Walsh not ruling out future return to Kerry colours By Daragh O Conchúir Friday, June 04, 2010 TOMMY WALSH has not ruled out returning to play for Kerry and Kerins O’Rahilly’s in the future. The man of the match as the Kingdom beat Cork in last year’s All-Ireland final will be listening to the latest renewal of the old rivalry in Killarney on Radio Kerry via the internet. It will be the early hours of Monday morning but despite the fact he is now chasing a different dream, Walsh will always be tuned into the green and gold. The Strand Road man admits that winning that All-Ireland has given him a greater ease of mind about pursuing a career in professional sport and he will never be tormented in the way last year’s Kerry team-mate Tadhg Kennelly, was about getting his hands on a treasured Celtic Cross. But if even if Cork had been triumphant in September, he was headed for Australia. "It was a massive ambition to win an All-Ireland and if we hadn’t done it, it would be something I’d want to go back and do," he said yesterday. "So winning it made it easier to come over here. "But it was just too big an opportunity to turn down. Ten years down the line I didn’t want to be thinking ‘Why didn’t I?’ I suppose I didn’t want to die wondering. There is less pressure because it’s one less thing to go home for. "That’s not to say that I don’t want to go home and play Gaelic football in the future. There is still a lot I want to achieve with my club and county so I’m definitely not closing the door on that." The 22-year-old has turned his back on potential greatness in Gaelic football but is not impatient about reaching the heights and insists that he never expected to make a quick debut in the AFL, a feat managed by other Irish imports Colm Begley, Martin Clarke and Michael Quinn. Of course the fact that Kennelly made a return trip Down Under and is an old hand when it comes to breaking into the AFL was a major factor, as the Sydney Swans defender has offered plenty of advice. "It takes time to develop, to get to know the game. I won’t be playing until I’ve done that and I’m ready. That’s one of the first things Tadhg said to me, not to expect to play too quickly. St Kilda have such a strong squad. "Breaking into the seniors is a slow process. I just want to develop and learn and play consistently enough to get into their selection plans. That’s my aim." That process is taking place on the training pitch, and in games for the Saints’ reserves team, Sandringham, for whom he plays along the half-back line. His signing generated massive publicity, not just in Ireland but also in Australia, where Walsh’s reputation as one of the brightest young stars of football had gone before him. His athleticism and raw strength earned rave reviews and it was predicted that he would make an appearance in the pre-season NAB Cup but it didn’t happen, as he wrestles with learning the intricacies of Aussie Rules while attaining the required fitness levels. "There was always going to be hype because I’ve gone from All-Ireland to AFL. Because of the hype people want to see you play straight away. They want to see what you can do, see if you can play. A lot of the young guys are under pressure to put on weight so they can cope with the physical demands. But I’ve always been big so that’s an advantage. I’ve actually lost weight since I’ve got here. In the first few weeks I lost five kg. When I arrived I was 102 kilos, now I’m about 96. "Players out here really are elite athletes because the game goes so much longer. I’m still not there yet. Sometimes I sit there at half time and think, ‘If I was at home and this was Gaelic football, the game would be over by now’." This story appeared in the printed version of the Irish Examiner Friday, June 04, 2010 Read more: www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/walsh-not-ruling-out-future-return-to-kerry-colours-121523.html#ixzz0prSNRGbA |
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Jun 4, 2010 9:22:22 GMT
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Post by thepope on Jun 4, 2010 9:26:28 GMT
thanks for video post kerryman125- good to see him making progress. wish him all the best out there, obviously wish he was still lining out for kerry, but best of luck to the lad.
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Post by paddy03 on Jun 6, 2010 11:44:47 GMT
Tommy walsh will probably make his debut for St.Kilda next season. He has all the tools to become one of the great Aussie rules players, and he should become a very wealty young man also. Setanta's career has taken off this year after a long struggle and he now is one the top scorers in the league ( 24 goals ) you're right Ciarraiabu, it's extremely difficult to make it.
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Post by sheww on Jun 17, 2010 12:42:41 GMT
Any chance Tommy would/could play for Kerry if needed in August?
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Post by KerryLad on Jun 17, 2010 13:00:50 GMT
Surely not if he's on a professional contract. If he got injured for us then the St Kilda insurance wouldnt cover it. I mean you cant imagine Rooney been allowed tog out with his local sunday league team during the summer by Man Utd
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Post by sheww on Jun 17, 2010 13:10:13 GMT
I seem to remember a certain Kevin Moran lining out for the Dubs fado fado.
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Post by KerryLad on Jun 17, 2010 13:17:42 GMT
Never played with the Dubs once he started playing with United...played with Dublin in 76 & 77 then joined United in 78
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Post by nicoshea on Jun 17, 2010 14:33:24 GMT
Any chance Tommy would/could play for Kerry if needed in August? That is as likely to happen as Darragh O Sé coming back.. (IMO) |
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Post by goalswingames on Jun 17, 2010 14:34:10 GMT
Never played with the Dubs once he started playing with United...played with Dublin in 76 & 77 then joined United in 78 In Humphries book Kerry vs. Dublin he wrote about Moran coming back for a championship semi-final the year after he joined Man Utd. He got injured in that game and missed a lot of the next season with utd. They never let him play again after that. |
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Post by KerryLad on Jun 17, 2010 14:49:35 GMT
Never played with the Dubs once he started playing with United...played with Dublin in 76 & 77 then joined United in 78 In Humphries book Kerry vs. Dublin he wrote about Moran coming back for a championship semi-final the year after he joined Man Utd. He got injured in that game and missed a lot of the next season with utd. They never let him play again after that. Maybe so. I dont ever remember him being back after he made his move to United. Anyway its a completely different era for the professional game now with sponsorship,tv money,multi million pound contracts etc.. I would think it will be a miracle if Tommy was allowed play. I remember reading in Tadghs book that he got f**ked from the heavens when Sydney found out that he played with Emmets when he returned home.. |
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 17, 2010 16:16:27 GMT
Kevin played for Dublin while on Uniteds books.
Tadhg owes the Swans nothing at this stage, he's probably on the last 12 months of his contract, while Tommy still has to make the cut.
Nothing should be ruled in or out at this stage.
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