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Post by mike24 on Dec 31, 2023 19:33:07 GMT
I am not sure about Stefan Okunbor at all tbh, I hope I'm wrong but he doesn't seem to have the skill or intelligence to be a 6! I hope I'm proved wrong
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Post by edgeofthesquare on Dec 31, 2023 19:54:46 GMT
New players (anyone not involved last year) who I’d have the most hope will make an impression in 24 are Dan O’Donoghue, Joe O’Connor, Ronan Buckley and Cillian Burke. First 3 have all been around a while whereas Burke is coming straight in from the 20s but has been a prospect since his minor days. Dan and Joe would be well established now if it wasn’t for injuries. If those 4 could put up their hands then I’d think we’d be well stocked in every position bar depth at midfield.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Dec 31, 2023 20:11:04 GMT
New players (anyone not involved last year) who I’d have the most hope will make an impression in 24 are Dan O’Donoghue, Joe O’Connor, Ronan Buckley and Cillian Burke. First 3 have all been around a while whereas Burke is coming straight in from the 20s but has been a prospect since his minor days. Dan and Joe would be well established now if it wasn’t for injuries. If those 4 could put up their hands then I’d think we’d be well stocked in every position bar depth at midfield. Good post, They would be the 4 I'd go with aswell. If we had Buckley and Burke in the HF line along with Seanie we'd have a solid midfield. Plenty of height and athleticism there although Jack is unlikely too go with 2 new wingforwards as debutants.
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Post by chicago09 on Dec 31, 2023 23:16:07 GMT
Barry dan is a good club player but not a great county player there is a difference. Although he played well in the league he was wasted the rest of the year as I know for a fact Jack doesn't like him so having him there at all, makes no sense. One player I would like to see have a big improvement is dylan Casey and dan o donoghue also. I hope Brian obeaglaioch get a good injury free year as he was a big loss this season and missed a lot of games. We really don’t need big changes only a couple of positions it’s not rocket science everyone knows what we need A few of them should be able to put their hand up now they are around long enough.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Dec 31, 2023 23:54:39 GMT
For those interested the Kerry game on Wednesday is being shown on Cluber.
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Post by blackandamber99 on Jan 1, 2024 10:54:28 GMT
What a player Seamus Scanlon was, so dominant in the air and done the simple things right
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Post by hurlingman on Jan 1, 2024 11:35:22 GMT
I am not sure about Stefan Okunbor at all tbh, I hope I'm wrong but he doesn't seem to have the skill or intelligence to be a 6! I hope I'm proved wrong I've said it before and I agree. By no fault of his own I don't think there's been a more overhyped Kerry player. A lot of people think he's the answer to Kerry problems yet no one can actually answer what problems he's going to sort out.
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Post by anriochtabu23 on Jan 1, 2024 11:49:35 GMT
Okunbar has had very little football since he came back from Australia due to injury and he needs plenty of it. He left not long after getting motm V Cork in an U20 MF.
He actually played an unorthodox style as full back that day and won a lot of ball out in front. He didn't look good v Kildare in the next game. Since he came back from Australia the only game I saw him being effective in was V Armagh in Tralee. I feel he can do a job as a man marker in a half back line but that's about it. Every team needs one of those though.
Players can be overhyped. I recall Daniel Bohane coming on V Galway in 08 and he caught 2 high balls on a wet day. Suddenly he became the answer to our full back issues at the time. Although sharing a club he wasnt the next John O'Keefe.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 1, 2024 12:32:01 GMT
I haven't seen enough of stefan to pass judgement.
I did think he played well against Armagh and was going ok against Tyrone last year.
What I do know is he was good enough to go to Australia.
He was good enough to be professional.
I think the Kerry management know what his potential is.
He looks to me to be built for the athleticism needed for Croke Park.
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Post by anriochtabu23 on Jan 1, 2024 13:52:54 GMT
Aussie Rules want transition athletes. Their combine focuses on such. The kilkenny hurler Darragh Joyce didn't play much football before he went over. Setanta O'Hailpin was similar.
I agree that he is strong and athletic and probably would look his best on the croke park sod. The dubs made an effective footballer out of Michael Dara McAuley and less so with Eoghan O'Gara. Okunbar has more football in him than those two. He is definitely worth persevering with. He would have been ideal for McCaffrey in last year's final.
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Post by kerryexile on Jan 1, 2024 13:54:50 GMT
I think the ship has sailed for Stefan, mainly because, for one reason or another, he is no nearer the finished product than he was that glorious evening in ASP many years ago. And I am not sure that there is that much potential. When I watch him closely it looks like that when he was in his formative years he played a lot of basketball and soccer and at a later stage tried to combine these to become a footballer. He practically never kicks the ball from hand, is always in a hurry to off load to almost anyone regardless of whether they are in a better position or not, does not make himself available in a proper football sense to teammates.
I would love to see Stefan proving me completely wrong even it was just in the McGrath cup.
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Post by edgeofthesquare on Jan 1, 2024 14:43:43 GMT
Best case scenario I see for Stefan is a rotational option, an option to do a jobs at times. I think he could still be a good full back because he has impressed there with Na Gaeil but is he All Ireland winning quality there probably not. I thought he looked really out of his depth at midfield against Tyrone last year so I wouldn’t see him as an option there. A tagging role in the half back line is his best role but then how often will we need that and be willing to give up a ball playing half back. Hopefully he has a good McGrath Cup.
On Barry Dan I didn’t think he was good enough for inter county prior to the league last year where I thought he was very good. Yes he’s lacking pace but he offers other qualities so I wonder would he be able to get away with it. Jack needs to make his decision now and not see a repeat of last year, either he will be an option for championship or he won’t be but if he won’t be then he shouldn’t play at all this year not even in the McGrath cup.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 1, 2024 20:27:59 GMT
I think it's unfair go write of Stefan when he hasn't had a full injury free year.
The guy is built like a serious competitor and if the the medical team can get him fit and healthy then we can pass judgement.
We have plenty of footballers, We need powerful runners that can break lines and can feed our forwards.
I can't imagine how hard it's been for him and the setbacks and disappointments between here and Australia.
I hope for the lad he kicks on and has a injury free year.
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Post by mossie on Jan 1, 2024 20:35:54 GMT
Best case scenario I see for Stefan is a rotational option, an option to do a jobs at times. I think he could still be a good full back because he has impressed there with Na Gaeil but is he All Ireland winning quality there probably not. I thought he looked really out of his depth at midfield against Tyrone last year so I wouldn’t see him as an option there. A tagging role in the half back line is his best role but then how often will we need that and be willing to give up a ball playing half back. Hopefully he has a good McGrath Cup. On Barry Dan I didn’t think he was good enough for inter county prior to the league last year where I thought he was very good. Yes he’s lacking pace but he offers other qualities so I wonder would he be able to get away with it. Jack needs to make his decision now and not see a repeat of last year, either he will be an option for championship or he won’t be but if he won’t be then he shouldn’t play at all this year not even in the McGrath cup. I think the Barry Dan pace issue is overplayed , however If the view of the management if that he doesnt have the pace for championship well then they shouldnt have him on the panel now as you say and work instead with a midfielder who they deem to have the legs Barry Dan has also shown he could be a threat at full forward, this needs to be explored
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Post by horsebox77 on Jan 1, 2024 20:40:26 GMT
I'm half inclined to agree with you Royal, bring honest any time I've seen Stefan and end up scratching the head trying to figure him out, is it the pro factor and the point he was a professional baller? I wouldn't put him in the, or anywhere near the class of Tommy Walsh, Mark O'Connor or Kennelly, I don't think he is graced with skill and it was a photo taken of the throw in last year which more showed his athleticism to jump for a ball than actually play with the leather.
Truth be told as another poster alluded to, his preference to hand pass more than kick could be telling.
In saying that, he is athletic and that is a trait that could be utolised, I'm a massive horses for courses man. A player with that capability and versatility could be used.. you don't have to be the most skilful to be a spoiler
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 1, 2024 20:59:07 GMT
I'm half inclined to agree with you Royal, bring honest any time I've seen Stefan and end up scratching the head trying to figure him out, is it the pro factor and the point he was a professional baller? I wouldn't put him in the, or anywhere near the class of Tommy Walsh, Mark O'Connor or Kennelly, I don't think he is graced with skill and it was a photo taken of the throw in last year which more showed his athleticism to jump for a ball than actually play with the leather. Truth be told as another poster alluded to, his preference to hand pass more than kick could be telling. In saying that, he is athletic and that is a trait that could be utolised, I'm a massive horses for courses man. A player with that capability and versatility could be used.. you don't have to be the most skilful to be a spoiler Michael Dara McAuley was one of the worst kickers of a ball I've seen. He won footballer of the year. I know it's a prerequisite to be a kicker on a Kerry team but I don't think it's required for all of them. We need to be pragmatic and if we can have a player that is athletic, can win ball, can break a line and give it to a kicker ill be happy. Is it Stefan ? Time will tell.
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Post by kerryblueboy on Jan 1, 2024 21:00:49 GMT
I think if we could keep stefan fit he is a game changer big athletic ball carrier who could be a big difference coming from the bench or starting imo
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Post by horsebox77 on Jan 1, 2024 21:25:40 GMT
His man marking of Armagh Rian O'Neill in the league clash in ASP made me sit up and take notice... as you say Royal, time will tell.
I see the hurling team was released tonight, I wonder will we see our first football team of the year this time tmw?
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Post by declanbrowne on Jan 2, 2024 15:15:15 GMT
With all the rain, is there any danger that the pitch will be unplayable? I don't want to make the drive down only to be disappointed
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 2, 2024 15:55:39 GMT
With all the rain, is there any danger that the pitch will be unplayable? I don't want to make the drive down only to be disappointed Unlikely ASP is one of the best pitches and it holds up during the rain.. It's Kerry after all.
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Post by homerj on Jan 2, 2024 17:40:22 GMT
its very poor that after €5m spent, there isnt an all weather pitch at the COE that can handle a crowd in winter and leave ASP alone for the league games.
0 chance of the game being off however, plenty of top class pitches in Kerry playable in the extremely unlikely chance that ASP is.
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Post by horsebox77 on Jan 2, 2024 17:56:15 GMT
its very poor that after €5m spent, there isnt an all weather pitch at the COE that can handle a crowd in winter and leave ASP alone for the league games. 0 chance of the game being off however, plenty of top class pitches in Kerry playable in the extremely unlikely chance that ASP is. Ask anyone who has stood there for trail or development squad games, it could badly do with some form of a stand or shelter, I've lost count of the number of times we've huddled up beside like minded souls in front of the metal box in the middle.
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Post by horsebox77 on Jan 2, 2024 20:01:27 GMT
1 (GK) Shane Murphy Seán Ó Murchú Dr Crócaigh 2 Joey Nagle Seosamh de Nógla Aibhistín de Staic 3 Dylan Casey Dylan Ó Cathasaigh Aibhistín de Staic 4 Damian Bourke Damian de Búrca Na Gaeil 5 Graham O’Sullivan Graeme Ó Súilleabháin Piarsaigh na Dromoda 6 Mike Breen Micheál Ó Braoin Lios an Phúca 7 Seán O’Brien Seán Ó Briain Lios an Phúca 8 Joe O’Connor Seosamh Ó Conchúir Aibhistín de Staic 9 Barry Dan O’Sullivan Barra Ó Súilleabháin Daingean Uí Chúis 10 Keith Evans Keith Ó hÉimhín Cill 11 Dylan Geaney Dylan Ó Géibheannaigh Daingean Uí Chúis 12 Cillian Burke Cillian De Búrca Baile an Mhuillin/Caisleán na Mainge 13 Killian Spillane Cillian Ó Spealáin Teampall Nua 14 Darragh Roche Dara De Róiste Gleann Fleisce 15 Micheál Burns Micheál Ó Broin Dr Crócaigh 16 (GK) Seán Coffey Seán Ó Cofaigh Lios an Phúca 17 Dara Moynihan Dara Ó Muineacháin Spa Cill Airne 18 Ronan Buckley Ronan Ó Buachalla Lios A’Troí 19 Seán O’Shea Seán Ó Sé An Neidín 20 Stephen O’Brien Stiofán Ó Briain An Neidín 21 Adrian Spillane Adrian Ó Spealáin Teampall Nua 22 Conor Geaney Conchúir Ó Géibheannaigh Daingean Uí Chúis 23 Jason Foley Jason Ó Foghlú Baile Uí Donnachú 24 Gavin White Gabhin de Faoite Dr Crócaigh 25 Stefan Okunbor Stefan Okunbor Na Gaeil 26 Paul Murphy Pól Ó Murchú An Rath Mhór 27 Paudie O Leary Pádraig Ó Laoire
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Post by peanuts on Jan 2, 2024 20:02:45 GMT
Club Name 1 (GK) Shane Murphy Seán Ó Murchú Dr Crócaigh 2 Joey Nagle Seosamh de Nógla Aibhistín de Staic 3 Dylan Casey Dylan Ó Cathasaigh Aibhistín de Staic 4 Damian Bourke Damian de Búrca Na Gaeil 5 Graham O’Sullivan Graeme Ó Súilleabháin Piarsaigh na Dromoda 6 Mike Breen Micheál Ó Braoin Lios an Phúca 7 Seán O’Brien Seán Ó Briain Lios an Phúca 8 Joe O’Connor Seosamh Ó Conchúir Aibhistín de Staic 9 Barry Dan O’Sullivan Barra Ó Súilleabháin Daingean Uí Chúis 10 Keith Evans Keith Ó hÉimhín Cill 11 Dylan Geaney Dylan Ó Géibheannaigh Daingean Uí Chúis 12 Cillian Burke Cillian De Búrca Baile an Mhuillin/Caisleán na Mainge 13 Killian Spillane Cillian Ó Spealáin Teampall Nua 14 Darragh Roche Dara De Róiste Gleann Fleisce 15 Micheál Burns Micheál Ó Broin Dr Crócaigh 16 (GK) Seán Coffey Seán Ó Cofaigh Lios an Phúca 17 Dara Moynihan Dara Ó Muineacháin Spa Cill Airne 18 Ronan Buckley Ronan Ó Buachalla Lios A’Troí 19 Seán O’Shea Seán Ó Sé An Neidín 20 Stephen O’Brien Stiofán Ó Briain An Neidín 21 Adrian Spillane Adrian Ó Spealáin Teampall Nua 22 Conor Geaney Conchúir Ó Géibheannaigh Daingean Uí Chúis 23 Jason Foley Jason Ó Foghlú Baile Uí Donnachú 24 Gavin White Gabhin de Faoite Dr Crócaigh 25 Stefan Okunbor Stefan Okunbor Na Gaeil 26 Paul Murphy Pól Ó Murchú An Rath Mhór 27 Paudie O Leary Pádraig Ó Laoire G
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Post by john4 on Jan 2, 2024 20:12:15 GMT
Club Name 1 (GK) Shane Murphy Seán Ó Murchú Dr Crócaigh 2 Joey Nagle Seosamh de Nógla Aibhistín de Staic 3 Dylan Casey Dylan Ó Cathasaigh Aibhistín de Staic 4 Damian Bourke Damian de Búrca Na Gaeil 5 Graham O’Sullivan Graeme Ó Súilleabháin Piarsaigh na Dromoda 6 Mike Breen Micheál Ó Braoin Lios an Phúca 7 Seán O’Brien Seán Ó Briain Lios an Phúca 8 Joe O’Connor Seosamh Ó Conchúir Aibhistín de Staic 9 Barry Dan O’Sullivan Barra Ó Súilleabháin Daingean Uí Chúis 10 Keith Evans Keith Ó hÉimhín Cill 11 Dylan Geaney Dylan Ó Géibheannaigh Daingean Uí Chúis 12 Cillian Burke Cillian De Búrca Baile an Mhuillin/Caisleán na Mainge 13 Killian Spillane Cillian Ó Spealáin Teampall Nua 14 Darragh Roche Dara De Róiste Gleann Fleisce 15 Micheál Burns Micheál Ó Broin Dr Crócaigh 16 (GK) Seán Coffey Seán Ó Cofaigh Lios an Phúca 17 Dara Moynihan Dara Ó Muineacháin Spa Cill Airne 18 Ronan Buckley Ronan Ó Buachalla Lios A’Troí 19 Seán O’Shea Seán Ó Sé An Neidín 20 Stephen O’Brien Stiofán Ó Briain An Neidín 21 Adrian Spillane Adrian Ó Spealáin Teampall Nua 22 Conor Geaney Conchúir Ó Géibheannaigh Daingean Uí Chúis 23 Jason Foley Jason Ó Foghlú Baile Uí Donnachú 24 Gavin White Gabhin de Faoite Dr Crócaigh 25 Stefan Okunbor Stefan Okunbor Na Gaeil 26 Paul Murphy Pól Ó Murchú An Rath Mhór 27 Paudie O Leary Pádraig Ó Laoire G I've seen Shane Murphy play in goal for Kerry, I haven't seen Sean Coffey in goal for Kerry. What are we expecting to learn with this?
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 2, 2024 20:13:45 GMT
Club Name 1 (GK) Shane Murphy Seán Ó Murchú Dr Crócaigh 2 Joey Nagle Seosamh de Nógla Aibhistín de Staic 3 Dylan Casey Dylan Ó Cathasaigh Aibhistín de Staic 4 Damian Bourke Damian de Búrca Na Gaeil 5 Graham O’Sullivan Graeme Ó Súilleabháin Piarsaigh na Dromoda 6 Mike Breen Micheál Ó Braoin Lios an Phúca 7 Seán O’Brien Seán Ó Briain Lios an Phúca 8 Joe O’Connor Seosamh Ó Conchúir Aibhistín de Staic 9 Barry Dan O’Sullivan Barra Ó Súilleabháin Daingean Uí Chúis 10 Keith Evans Keith Ó hÉimhín Cill 11 Dylan Geaney Dylan Ó Géibheannaigh Daingean Uí Chúis 12 Cillian Burke Cillian De Búrca Baile an Mhuillin/Caisleán na Mainge 13 Killian Spillane Cillian Ó Spealáin Teampall Nua 14 Darragh Roche Dara De Róiste Gleann Fleisce 15 Micheál Burns Micheál Ó Broin Dr Crócaigh 16 (GK) Seán Coffey Seán Ó Cofaigh Lios an Phúca 17 Dara Moynihan Dara Ó Muineacháin Spa Cill Airne 18 Ronan Buckley Ronan Ó Buachalla Lios A’Troí 19 Seán O’Shea Seán Ó Sé An Neidín 20 Stephen O’Brien Stiofán Ó Briain An Neidín 21 Adrian Spillane Adrian Ó Spealáin Teampall Nua 22 Conor Geaney Conchúir Ó Géibheannaigh Daingean Uí Chúis 23 Jason Foley Jason Ó Foghlú Baile Uí Donnachú 24 Gavin White Gabhin de Faoite Dr Crócaigh 25 Stefan Okunbor Stefan Okunbor Na Gaeil 26 Paul Murphy Pól Ó Murchú An Rath Mhór 27 Paudie O Leary Pádraig Ó Laoire G I've seen Shane Murphy play in goal for Kerry, I haven't seen Sean Coffey in goal for Kerry. What are we expecting to learn with this? Or Micheal Burns at 15.
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Post by sullyschoice on Jan 2, 2024 20:15:00 GMT
A lot of Beaufort lads in the squad.
Did I see somewhere that this is on Clubber. I wont make it down but should be in Rathkeale on saturday
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Post by thehermit on Jan 2, 2024 20:15:48 GMT
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Post by thehermit on Jan 2, 2024 20:17:23 GMT
Looking forward to this now and seeing what Burke and Dylan Geaney look like in a senior Kerry team.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 2, 2024 20:20:16 GMT
A lot of Beaufort lads in the squad. Did I see somewhere that this is on Clubber. I wont make it down but should be in Rathkeale on saturday It is, 11.99
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