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Post by royalkerryfan on May 11, 2023 19:44:02 GMT
Thanks lads,
I do recall beating a poor Cork in Tralee last year and then getting beaten away 2 weeks later.
Kerry can take a lot from that game.
Some excellent scores.
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Post by teamplayer on May 11, 2023 19:58:27 GMT
Great second half performance once we started to run the bench. Keeffe, Gannon and O Beagloich making a huge impact on the game. Should start next Thursday. Full back and the half backs were well beaten all night. Kirby, Boyle and Kennedy were outstanding this evening. Promising performance going forward will have learned more than cork.
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Post by southward on May 11, 2023 19:59:32 GMT
I thought the Kerry boys showed great heart and plenty of football skills especially in the second half. Cork may have won but I was not impressed with their agricultural style - the damage was done more in the first half and the second Cork goal early in the second half gave them a nice cushion to protect after Kerry had fought back strongly. Clearly the Cork MO was pick the biggest strongest young fellows they have but the persistent cynical fouling on Kerry players was embarrassing for that level (the ref will have sore lips from whistling them up). Totally agree. Cork's constant fouling, particularly in the second half, was a disgrace. Their management should be ashamed of themselves. You just don't expect it at this age group. The referee was far too slow in dealing with it too, should have been more cards shown and sooner. Cork had a couple of nice forwards alright but I'd fully expect Kerry, with a little more application and teamwork, to turn them over in the Munster final.
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Post by shea5 on May 11, 2023 20:05:22 GMT
Where is Limerick v Kerry played Away or Home?
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Post by southward on May 11, 2023 20:05:59 GMT
Btw, was the tv scorekeeper on the beer or what? Shambolic.
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Post by kerrysouth on May 11, 2023 20:15:49 GMT
Very mediocre performance from Kerry tonight cork centre forward head and shoulders the best player on view followed closely by Coakley at full forward .However the round robin and home advantage will prob swing it Kerry’s way if we meet again in the final.But as stated earlier this is an average minor team /panel and management will do very very well to land an all Ireland with this squad but they are young lads so we have to remain optimistic and hopeful.
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 11, 2023 20:17:54 GMT
Very mediocre performance from Kerry tonight cork centre forward head and shoulders the best player on view followed closely by Coakley at full forward .However the round robin and home advantage will prob swing it Kerry’s way if we meet again in the final.But as stated earlier this is an average minor team /panel and management will do very very well to land an all Ireland with this squad but they are young lads so we have to remain optimistic and hopeful. That's very harsh, They showed character to come back and played some lovely football at times.
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Post by The16thMan on May 11, 2023 20:52:50 GMT
Lads didn't do too bad, goals came at bad times, both at times when Kerry were the better teams but the goals just killed our momentum and pegged us back. They looked very shy at the start and left Cork come at us. One criticism I would have would be the penalty, brainless decision by the keeper to push the Cork forward when he had his back to goal and Kerry defenders around him. 2nd Cork goal was quality. I think this is a kind of team who will improve and gel with more games played. It's a lot of these guys' first game in Kerry jersey for a Championship game so it's still very early to be judging. Hopefully we'll learn and improve after tonight. Ciarrai Abú
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Post by mg72 on May 11, 2023 21:07:11 GMT
Very mediocre performance from Kerry tonight cork centre forward head and shoulders the best player on view followed closely by Coakley at full forward .However the round robin and home advantage will prob swing it Kerry’s way if we meet again in the final.But as stated earlier this is an average minor team /panel and management will do very very well to land an all Ireland with this squad but they are young lads so we have to remain optimistic and hopeful. That's very harsh, They showed character to come back and played some lovely football at times. I don't think that KerrySouth said anything out of line. Cork had the stand out player on view. Good lessons will have hopefully been learned by the Kerry players and management this evening. RealisticLly, a Munster title is very possible, an All Ireland title, less so. But you'd never know what will happen with young lads on any given day.
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 11, 2023 21:15:03 GMT
That's very harsh, They showed character to come back and played some lovely football at times. I don't think that KerrySouth said anything out of line. Cork had the stand out player on view. Good lessons will have hopefully been learned by the Kerry players and management this evening. RealisticLly, a Munster title is very possible, an All Ireland title, less so. But you'd never know what will happen with young lads on any given day. Harsh in respect to being mediocre. I thought Kerry were unlucky tonight.
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Post by exiled on May 11, 2023 21:41:00 GMT
Kerry's slow monotonous build up play was the problem for the whole game. If they had gone with the Cork approach I think they would have won easily. At this age let them express themselves..
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Post by dubaigaa2022 on May 11, 2023 22:20:12 GMT
Somebody somewhere needs to have a serious look at where we are going as "Team Kerry" - 2 weeks in a row now - Minors & U20's - maybe 16 forwards used - all afraid to shoot unless in the "shooting zone" - any Kerry forward worth his salt should be able to kick a ball over the bar from 30/35M - anywhere inside the 45M line - seriously boring / safe approach - this is what the poor counties do - the ones that cannot produce forwards - and we are going the same way - time to re think the whole approach ...
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Post by dubaigaa2022 on May 11, 2023 22:23:38 GMT
Kerry's slow monotonous build up play was the problem for the whole game. If they had gone with the Cork approach I think they would have won easily. At this age let them express themselves.. totally agree with this comment - looks like we are taking the football out of them rather than developing them as footballers - developing them as robots maybe - just so not Kerry or what Kerry should be
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Post by keepitup on May 11, 2023 22:33:15 GMT
Somebody somewhere needs to have a serious look at where we are going as "Team Kerry" - 2 weeks in a row now - Minors & U20's - maybe 16 forwards used - all afraid to shoot unless in the "shooting zone" - any Kerry forward worth his salt should be able to kick a ball over the bar from 30/35M - anywhere inside the 45M line - seriously boring / safe approach - this is what the poor counties do - the ones that cannot produce forwards - and we are going the same way - time to re think the whole approach ...
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Post by keepitup on May 11, 2023 22:37:39 GMT
Somebody somewhere needs to have a serious look at where we are going as "Team Kerry" - 2 weeks in a row now - Minors & U20's - maybe 16 forwards used - all afraid to shoot unless in the "shooting zone" - any Kerry forward worth his salt should be able to kick a ball over the bar from 30/35M - anywhere inside the 45M line - seriously boring / safe approach - this is what the poor counties do - the ones that cannot produce forwards - and we are going the same way - time to re think the whole approach ... Agreed. Too much politics in picking both panels. Why not just pick best players
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Post by exiled on May 11, 2023 22:37:58 GMT
Somebody somewhere needs to have a serious look at where we are going as "Team Kerry" - 2 weeks in a row now - Minors & U20's - maybe 16 forwards used - all afraid to shoot unless in the "shooting zone" - any Kerry forward worth his salt should be able to kick a ball over the bar from 30/35M - anywhere inside the 45M line - seriously boring / safe approach - this is what the poor counties do - the ones that cannot produce forwards - and we are going the same way - time to re think the whole approach ... As I was in Salthill last Saturday I agree with this. Are we developing players or athletes. Sometimes the coaches get lost in what the process is. In both games we had talented ff lines but failed to get the ball in fast. At the end of the day it's the ball that matters.
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Post by kerryexile on May 11, 2023 23:09:07 GMT
Somebody somewhere needs to have a serious look at where we are going as "Team Kerry" - 2 weeks in a row now - Minors & U20's - maybe 16 forwards used - all afraid to shoot unless in the "shooting zone" - any Kerry forward worth his salt should be able to kick a ball over the bar from 30/35M - anywhere inside the 45M line - seriously boring / safe approach - this is what the poor counties do - the ones that cannot produce forwards - and we are going the same way - time to re think the whole approach ... As I was in Salthill last Saturday I agree with this. Are we developing players or athletes. Sometimes the coaches get lost in what the process is. In both games we had talented ff lines but failed to get the ball in fast. At the end of the day it's the ball that matters. Completely agree. As I watched the game I was thinking there must be players in this age group in the county who have the gumption to take a point but are not in the squad because they do not fit the robotic tactics but will be on the senior squad in 4/5 years ahead of tonight's squad. Ditto 're Salthill.
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Post by edgeofthesquare on May 11, 2023 23:37:38 GMT
Kerry got 14 scores from 29 shots. Cork got 14 scores from 20 shots. It wasn’t fear of taking on a shot that lost us the game. I can’t understand some of the posts above, there were plenty of shots from long distance, if anything you could say we had too many wild attempts compared to Cork.
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Post by exiled on May 11, 2023 23:54:59 GMT
Kerry got 14 scores from 29 shots. Cork got 14 scores from 20 shots. It wasn’t fear of taking on a shot that lost us the game. I can’t understand some of the posts above, there were plenty of shots from long distance, if anything you could say we had too many wild attempts compared to Cork. It's the old story of lies lies and statistics..because of the slow nature of the build up the scoring chances were taken under pressure. The Cork chances were taken under little pressure. The slow build up didn't give our inside line room.
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Post by kerryexile on May 12, 2023 8:13:27 GMT
In both the Sligo game and last night's game, Kerry had the better players on the pitch. Both games were lost. In both games the main problem was in attack – an inability to turn basic possession, 30 metres out from goal, into scores. Everyone knows that teams set up defensively but Kerry still repeatedly over pass their way into cul-de-sacs. There seem to be no plan B. Even the most basic variation would be having a high fielding full-forward. Think David Clifford last year, Ciaran Donaghy, even Mick O’Dwyer thought the option was so important that he kept a Lions rugby player caged in the dugout in case Bomber got injured. With this option the defence has 2 things to deal with, which divides the defence and probably reduces the attack to 5 players.
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Post by greengold35 on May 12, 2023 9:13:23 GMT
Our set up in the ff line did not suit us - Cork, as expected, set up a blanket defence when out of possession making it almost impossible to get any good ball into Paddy Lane, our most dangerous forward - for the life of me, cannot understand that we didn’t move him to the corner & widen the attacking options.
Austin Stacks, under the same bainisteoir were a hard watch - basketball on grass, with two-wing forwards who were defenders, Conor Horan & Armin Heinrich, who usually never kicked the ball, just constantly hand passing.
We need to change things up for the next game(s).
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Post by horsebox77 on May 12, 2023 9:42:11 GMT
ah, we can't knock young lads, the lads played poor and still were only a kick of a ball from Cork. Cork were no great shakes either.
This game will bring them on a huge amount, I think we were very individualistic with little cohesion, but that unselfishness will pass with more games.
Think two of the subs that came on may be starting the next time out, may be a NK reshuffle.
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Post by kerryexile on May 12, 2023 9:46:20 GMT
Our set up in the ff line did not suit us - Cork, as expected, set up a blanket defence when out of possession making it almost impossible to get any good ball into Paddy Lane, our most dangerous forward - for the life of me, cannot understand that we didn’t move him to the corner & widen the attacking options. Austin Stacks, under the same bainisteoir were a hard watch - basketball on grass, with two-wing forwards who were defenders, Conor Horan & Armin Heinrich, who usually never kicked the ball, just constantly hand passing. We need to change things up for the next game(s). I agree. If David Moran hadn't been injured in the first minute of the 2021 co final.....
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Post by edgeofthesquare on May 12, 2023 10:16:27 GMT
Kerry got 14 scores from 29 shots. Cork got 14 scores from 20 shots. It wasn’t fear of taking on a shot that lost us the game. I can’t understand some of the posts above, there were plenty of shots from long distance, if anything you could say we had too many wild attempts compared to Cork. It's the old story of lies lies and statistics..because of the slow nature of the build up the scoring chances were taken under pressure. The Cork chances were taken under little pressure. The slow build up didn't give our inside line room. I agree on the slow build up play especially whenever we won a turnover, invariably it was a case of slowing it down and passing it backwards rather than attacking Cork at pace when they’re not set defensively. Still don’t agree with the comments that we’d a reluctance to shoot.
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Post by Kingdomson on May 12, 2023 16:19:14 GMT
Anybody got stats - I'd love to know how many times the ref had to whistle up Cork for fouling? The second half approach by them was farcical really.
The persistent cynical fouling reminded me of the year Darren O'Sullivan was a minor and Tyrone decided the best way to stop him was foul directly. Cork should have seen a couple of black cards not just yellows in my view. I agree with a previous view, the Cork management should be ashamed of themselves with that carry on. Promoting sewer football in young lads is nothing to be proud of.
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Post by pat88 on May 16, 2023 19:25:47 GMT
Very disappointed Gannon wasn’t given a chance to start. I think his speed would bring an intensity and spark they so desperately need
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Post by naughton2 on May 16, 2023 20:07:11 GMT
Also thought O sullivan should have got his shot Would have added real fight and that bite to this team that I don’t think they have developed yet Looking forward to Thursday night to see how the lads bounce back
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Post by horsebox77 on May 16, 2023 20:28:28 GMT
Two additional NK lads on the starting XV, I have seen Mulvihill and O'Keeffe since underage, although neither big in stature, two serious additions, very comfortable on the ball and very tuned in, two serious ballers.
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Post by shannonsider on May 16, 2023 22:17:18 GMT
I was none too happy with a lot of elements of the performance in Cork but hopefully things can improve from that. This looks like a better team selection I think. A good performance here, get the win and look to right the wrongs of Cork game then.
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Post by horsebox77 on May 18, 2023 16:20:07 GMT
Is game on tg4 utube?
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