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Post by gaelicden on Feb 26, 2023 16:13:47 GMT
If Donegal and Monaghan win today it will really throw division one into a titanic battle between top and bottom and put pressure back on us again to survive. Donegal draw and Monaghan win. There's a chance we either get relegated or we make the league final depending on our final three results.
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Post by mike70 on Feb 26, 2023 16:57:03 GMT
Could be a tough day in Healy park next weekend. Tyrone are bottom of the table, but have played some good football, just seem to concede too many goals.
So all to be played for next week.
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Post by baurtregaum on Feb 26, 2023 17:01:03 GMT
SH don’t be so bloody miserable - it was delightful to see all the kids around and involved. We were all in Armagh last year with kids allowed on at half time and same again in Mayo last week That's fine until some kid gets hurt by a couple of 13 stone men tussling over the endline. Or maybe someone gets a rush of blood and interferes with play. People inside the perimeter during a game is not ok in this day and age. It was happening at both ends last night. I was at the game lastnight. I got in early enough and took a place in the terrace. I thought that the stewarding was poor enough to be honest. The steps were not cleared in the terraces at any time. This meant that there actually was some space in the terrace but it was inaccessible. Stewards should have cleared the steps as much as possible. People should not go on the pitch at any time. Having 20 or 30 people converging on David Clifford at the end of a club game is one thing, but lastnight hundreds seemed to sprint on straight away. At the end of the game I watched Jason Foley fall to his knees, exhausted, only for a horde of fans to almost trample him. He and the other 29 players, officials, etc deserve better. Lads, we all know that volunteering is thankless and I realise that without them we would have no games. Maybe they were not anticipating such a large crowd. Sorry for the rant.
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Post by onlykerry on Feb 26, 2023 17:21:19 GMT
Our remaining three games are Tyrone (away), Roscommon (Tralee) and Galway (away) - could be three difficult scraps and throw in the need for squads to prepare for championship that starts straight after the league, March could be interesting with only 3 points between a semi final and relegation in the current table.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 26, 2023 17:52:35 GMT
Did the the change is the season trigger such sporadic results?
And there was hardly a bad match in it, ah don't say last night was the exception!
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 26, 2023 18:07:41 GMT
Our remaining three games are Tyrone (away), Roscommon (Tralee) and Galway (away) - could be three difficult scraps and throw in the need for squads to prepare for championship that starts straight after the league, March could be interesting with only 3 points between a semi final and relegation in the current table. I'd like to think we can win our home game v Rossies but I'd like at least 3 points from our last 3 games to be safe. I'd imagine Galway will be gunning for us after last year's AI final so hopefully we can get something out of Omagh. I ll travel anyway. A short enough spin from Dublin. As unlikely as it seemed last Saturday a league final is a strong possibility.
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Post by john4 on Feb 26, 2023 18:18:51 GMT
I'd like to think we can win our home game v Rossies but I'd like at least 3 points from our last 3 games to be safe. I'd imagine Galway will be gunning for us after last year's AI final so hopefully we can get something out of Omagh. I ll travel anyway. A short enough spin from Dublin. As unlikely as it seemed last Saturday a league final is a strong possibility. But isn't the league like this every year. Results have no form. The last 2 or 3 rounds of matches dictates everything.
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Post by piskin on Feb 26, 2023 18:25:16 GMT
All to play for really. 2 points against Roscommon should be enough. Tyrone game will be a quagmire to say the least.
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Post by clarinman on Feb 26, 2023 18:42:37 GMT
As unlikely as it seemed last Saturday a league final is a strong possibility. But isn't the league like this every year. Results have no form. The last 2 or 3 rounds of matches dictates everything. Not really. Usually there are whipping boys like Cavan and Roscommon or Kildare last year. Throw in the complication this year that 3 division one teams, Armagh Mayo Roscommon, play championship the weekend after the division one final. I think we will see unusual results in the last couple of rounds as teams who are safe will ease off.
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Post by percentageplay on Feb 26, 2023 19:41:06 GMT
Thinking back on the match, Armagh scored some great long range (45+ or there abouts) scores in the first half, perhaps wind assisted. I understand that these type scores are no longer encouraged as the percentages don't work in favour of taking them on, however, they are skill and give a team struggling to break down a defence an option. If a team can take them on and score them it would put more pressure on the defence to come out and press and there bye create space inside, add some unpredictability perhaps.
Are there players within the squad that can take these on a part from the obvious and PM?
Also, I did feel there were opportunities for players to score when running laterally between the 21 and 45 but for whatever reason they did not want to take them on.
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Post by jackiel on Feb 26, 2023 19:42:50 GMT
There's a difference between kids coming onto the field at half time and entering the field when the game is still being played. That shouldn't be happening. Fair point Absolutely, it happened towards the end of the Mayo match also, I think there was even a second ball on the pitch at one point that came from those youngsters. County boards leaving themselves open to litigation. A number of lost kids had to be reunited with parents afterwards. Parents have a responsibility to keep their kids under control and safe in a match day setting. I often witness kids running up and down the stand or standing up on seats (some inevitably falling) without any correction from adults. The bring a ball initiative at half time is fine and comes from a good place.
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Post by carthalawn on Feb 26, 2023 20:06:10 GMT
Massive result for Kerry on Saturday - in a trappy division 1. Armagh were stubborn in the extreme but thankfully we found a way. We lacked pace or the bit of zip at crucial moments on Saturday night - thankfully we have Brian Ó Beaglaoich, Gavin White and Diarmuid to return. This will make a world of difference. Our midfield put in a proper shift - the Dingle man should take a lot of confidence from his performance. Good that Steffan got more game / he’s work in progress but looked effective when he was more direct - gives us options as the season progresses. Ryan was very assured in nets - Foley looked very sharp. Feels like we are 60/70% off championship standard - next few weeks is the opportunity to close the gap.
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Post by Aodhan on Feb 26, 2023 21:01:48 GMT
There is no way Kerry are going to get relegated, they will not leave that happen. Lets focus on the positive and in retaining our tittle. As clarin said the likes of Mayo will not want to get to the final, they are playing Roscommon in the championship the week afterwards. This will apply to other teams also. Kerry are an exception, it is better for us to reach the final. Croke Park will need to fix this, as it is making a joke of the league.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 26, 2023 21:07:44 GMT
There is no way Kerry are going to get relegated, they will not leave that happen. Lets focus on the positive and in retaining our tittle. As clarin said the likes of Mayo will not want to get to the final, they are playing Roscommon in the championship the week afterwards. This will apply to other teams also. Kerry are an exception, it is better for us to reach the final. Croke Park will need to fix this, as it is making a joke of the league. I think Kerry will now make a final. We will beat Roscommon that will give us 6 points and I think we will get something next week. Tyrone seem in real bother. 7 or 8 points will make a final I reckon.
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Post by hatchetman on Feb 26, 2023 23:09:47 GMT
There is no way Kerry are going to get relegated, they will not leave that happen. Lets focus on the positive and in retaining our tittle. As clarin said the likes of Mayo will not want to get to the final, they are playing Roscommon in the championship the week afterwards. This will apply to other teams also. Kerry are an exception, it is better for us to reach the final. Croke Park will need to fix this, as it is making a joke of the league. What's the punishment for scoring into your own goal to avoid getting to a final?
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Post by peanuts on Feb 26, 2023 23:43:52 GMT
There is no way Kerry are going to get relegated, they will not leave that happen. Lets focus on the positive and in retaining our tittle. As clarin said the likes of Mayo will not want to get to the final, they are playing Roscommon in the championship the week afterwards. This will apply to other teams also. Kerry are an exception, it is better for us to reach the final. Croke Park will need to fix this, as it is making a joke of the league. I think Kerry will now make a final. We will beat Roscommon that will give us 6 points and I think we will get something next week. Tyrone seem in real bother. 7 or 8 points will make a final I reckon. 8 might but I’d very much doubt if 7 would.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 27, 2023 0:40:44 GMT
I'm not sure I agree with the sentiment that teams don't want to win the league. Nowadays bar the Ulster championship there is more prestige in winning the league and regardless on what happens in the provincial championship the league winners still make the group stage for the All Ireland. I'm sure every county wants to win it but yes, the Championship is the priority. It is so hard to know though with players being tested while regulars recuperate, etc and what with the short season and no break. The games are top class and that's fine once players can stick out a heavy 6 months.
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Post by Jo90 on Feb 27, 2023 0:49:09 GMT
There is no way Kerry are going to get relegated, they will not leave that happen. Lets focus on the positive and in retaining our tittle. As clarin said the likes of Mayo will not want to get to the final, they are playing Roscommon in the championship the week afterwards. This will apply to other teams also. Kerry are an exception, it is better for us to reach the final. Croke Park will need to fix this, as it is making a joke of the league. I think Kerry will now make a final. We will beat Roscommon that will give us 6 points and I think we will get something next week. Tyrone seem in real bother. 7 or 8 points will make a final I reckon. I think the winner of Galway v Kerry will meet Mayo in the final. If Kerry get to 8 pts by losing to Tyrone and beating Galway, they've more chance than on 8 pts by beating Tyrone and losing to Galway. (beating Roscommon also)
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Post by Aodhan on Feb 27, 2023 3:48:41 GMT
There is no way Kerry are going to get relegated, they will not leave that happen. Lets focus on the positive and in retaining our tittle. As clarin said the likes of Mayo will not want to get to the final, they are playing Roscommon in the championship the week afterwards. This will apply to other teams also. Kerry are an exception, it is better for us to reach the final. Croke Park will need to fix this, as it is making a joke of the league. What's the punishment for scoring into your own goal to avoid getting to a final? Mayo can play their D team like they did against us in last years final.
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Post by glengael on Feb 27, 2023 11:07:00 GMT
Absolutely, it happened towards the end of the Mayo match also, I think there was even a second ball on the pitch at one point that came from those youngsters. County boards leaving themselves open to litigation. A number of lost kids had to be reunited with parents afterwards. Parents have a responsibility to keep their kids under control and safe in a match day setting. I often witness kids running up and down the stand or standing up on seats (some inevitably falling) without any correction from adults. The bring a ball initiative at half time is fine and comes from a good place. I was in the Mitchels end stand and there seemed to be only 1 steward around there, who was doing his very best to keep kids firstly off the wall and secondly, get them out when they climbed over the wall and went onto the side of the pitch. No sooner would he have them all cleared, than it would start all over again. In the 2nd half, I saw 4 or 5 older teenagers sitting down on the sideline to my left in front of the main terrace, with subs trying to warm up in front of them. Many parents and older siblings seem to let kids run amok at matches and think it's ok and just 'fun'. But I'd wager they would rushing to Kerrys Eye and to their solicitor (and not necessarily in that order) if anything happened to their darlings, be it a fall from a wall or being hit by a ball or knocked over by a player. at full tilt. Yes, have some kind of initiative at half time if you wish and that needs to be managed properly not ad hoc. But players have to be protected during the warm up, warm down and the actual match itself.
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Post by jackiel on Feb 27, 2023 11:22:40 GMT
Agree 100%, I watched the match back last night and stewards were struggling to keep kids aways from the media interviews before , during and even after the game. As they say it's all fun and games til someone loses an eye. Shane Ryan got a belt of a ball during the warm up and went down , imagine a 4 or 5 year old got that full force to the head or body.
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Post by kot on Feb 27, 2023 12:12:00 GMT
If Kerry lose next week they are very much back in the dogfight to stay up after the results yesterday. If they win, then another final beckons.
They are definitely not at the races at all so far, that much is obvious. So would be some shot in the arm to squeeze a run to the final out of it. They were very much staring down the barrel of Div. 2 the other night and pulled it out the fire. Id have taken Div 2 security after the Mayo game, getting to the final very much bonus territory.
The kids running on to the pitch a bit mad, I mean, the safest place you could do that is in Croke Park because of all the space.... and you are not allowed. Then its no holds barred at these small tight provincial grounds!
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Post by horsebox77 on Feb 27, 2023 12:35:49 GMT
There is no way Kerry are going to get relegated, they will not leave that happen. Lets focus on the positive and in retaining our tittle. As clarin said the likes of Mayo will not want to get to the final, they are playing Roscommon in the championship the week afterwards. This will apply to other teams also. Kerry are an exception, it is better for us to reach the final. Croke Park will need to fix this, as it is making a joke of the league. I remember a few years back, Tyrone playing Derry in a league final, and they meeting the following Sunday in a championship knockout.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 27, 2023 14:04:39 GMT
I re-watched the game today and Stefan Okunbor must have covered every blade of grass on Saturday. Delighted for the lad and he certainly showed he has the athleticism and his conditioning is superb.
I hope he starts again on Sunday as he has earned it.
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Post by Ard Mhacha on Feb 27, 2023 19:12:34 GMT
At half time I was reasonably, and I felt we could kick on in second half. We went two up, but our main attackers were nowhere near the Kerry goal after that. We have good fielders in Rian O’Neill and Murnin, but we didn’t hit them often enough with long penetrating passes.
A couple of high challenges and a dropped ball was really the difference in the end. Yes, we ran the All Ireland champions to within a point, but that’s no consolation really. Even after a disappointing performance, and scores at a premium, a point at least was there for the taking.
Overall, a great occasion, but a disappointing game. Two wins needed now from our next two home games to secure Division 1 for next season.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 27, 2023 19:38:35 GMT
At half time I was reasonably, and I felt we could kick on in second half. We went two up, but our main attackers were nowhere near the Kerry goal after that. We have good fielders in Rian O’Neill and Murnin, but we didn’t hit them often enough with long penetrating passes. A couple of high challenges and a dropped ball was really the difference in the end. Yes, we ran the All Ireland champions to within a point, but that’s no consolation really. Even after a disappointing performance, and scores at a premium, a point at least was there for the taking. Overall, a great occasion, but a disappointing game. Two wins needed now from our next two home games to secure Division 1 for next season. I must compliment yer supporters and I think the feeling was mutual, jazus youze waz partying even before the show began so the Kerry air must have suited you, some real characters and young families made fore a nice mix - looks like the visitors constituted a bigger than normal % of the attendance, probably accounted for the bigger than expected crowd overall I think, fair dues given the journey and time of year, maybe KD was a factor and sure added to the spirit of the occasion. Everyone adores him, I hope he has the great management career he so richly deserves.
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Post by greengold35 on Feb 27, 2023 19:39:18 GMT
I re-watched the game today and Stefan Okunbor must have covered every blade of grass on Saturday. Delighted for the lad and he certainly showed he has the athleticism and his conditioning is superb. I hope he starts again on Sunday as he has earned it. Fully agree - re watched it too & felt the same - he is n the frame for a starting position not just for next week but the championship in my opinion - his versatility is key - did a good job in Rian O’Neill, could slot in @ wing back/midfield/half forward in a roving role. Along with his athleticism he is big & powerful- delighted for him as he now seems injury free & hope it continues that way.
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Post by kerryexile5 on Feb 27, 2023 19:45:26 GMT
I re-watched the game today and Stefan Okunbor must have covered every blade of grass on Saturday. Delighted for the lad and he certainly showed he has the athleticism and his conditioning is superb. I hope he starts again on Sunday as he has earned it. He is the best athlete in the Kerry squad no doubt about that, he is made for Croke park in the summer up and down for 70mins. His football is improving with each game too, it seems someone is telling him to do the simple things well.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Feb 27, 2023 21:05:15 GMT
Armagh surely had more training done already, are probably the best team in Ulster at the moment, and they did very, very well. A draw would have been a fair result, but fair play to Kerry for grinding out a win. Hard luck to Armagh, but I have a sneaky feeling we meet them again this year. Hopefully by then the Kerry team are better primed and able to win again.
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Post by homerj on Feb 28, 2023 0:43:40 GMT
What was the official attendance?
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