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Post by greengold35 on Jan 21, 2023 17:40:42 GMT
1.S Murphy 2.D Casey 3.J Foley 4.T Sullivan 5.M Breen 6.T Morley 7.G O Sullivan 8.R Buckley 9.J Barry 10.M Burns 11.S O Shea 12.D Moynihan 13.T Brosnan 14.D Roche 15.K Spillane 16.D Burns 17.D O Donoghue 18.B O Beaghlaoigh 19.J O Shea 20.S Okunbor 21.R Murphy 22.B Mahoney 23.E Horan 24.D O Sullivan Kerry played Kildare today in Rathkeale - little enough info other than Paul Murphy played wing back with Mike Breen at midfield - Stefan Okunbar also had game time in the middle. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 21, 2023 19:02:41 GMT
Meath beat Donegal in a challenge today, 3.14 to 1.8
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jan 21, 2023 19:49:52 GMT
Kerry played Kildare today in Rathkeale - little enough info other than Paul Murphy played wing back with Mike Breen at midfield - Stefan Okunbar also had game time in the middle. I still think Paul Murphy is a big asset to Kerry. He is so assured on the ball and so versatile. I felt he got blamed wrongly in 2021 for our defeat to Tyrone. Even last year it was him that crested the last chance v Dubs that led to Seanie free. That was a class act, pun not intended - only an auld hand would try it - cool, calm and collected. If truth be told it was 100% on par with Seanies kick and that's saying something and while Seanies kick was a placed ball, there was nil predictable about the wind, the whirlwind. In the fullness of time and when wise counsel has done the forensics, Seanies point will be ever more notable because of this - before the flood gates open, take another look folks! The problem going forward is, ah what hampered Paul as a minor, though whatever is in the water back that neck of the woods, I'd prefer him to be on my side if trouble was looming. For the hell of it - take a closer look and tell me who would have done it. I bet Paul would say he was lucky the way the ball was inch, millimetre perfect. Again I 'bow' to my superior knowledge - you make your own luck Paul and the early rejection stoked your determination and so wan elusive hoor of a tourist by the name of Sameul Maguire passed through your local train station for the 38th time - that movement alone was right up there with your maiden in '14 and you can proudly add your name to, well not what is on poster boards, but lovely local hoors who'd make you earn every, well millimetre of it - man is never as hero i9n the eyes of those closest, so don't worry, if wars breaks out we'll all return the compliment and break for the border! |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 21, 2023 20:09:14 GMT
Tyrone took a fair beating this evening.
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Post by mike70 on Jan 21, 2023 21:31:20 GMT
Tyrone took a fair beating this evening. Tyrone looked fair ordinary tonight, Derry were full of energy, but dour enough game, cob webs and all that , but only a week out from the league. If that result for Meath is right, than that’s a fair old dusting for Donegal. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 21, 2023 21:48:33 GMT
Tyrone took a fair beating this evening. Tyrone looked fair ordinary tonight, Derry were full of energy, but dour enough game, cob webs and all that , but only a week out from the league. If that result for Meath is right, than that’s a fair old dusting for Donegal. Yeah the Meath result is accurate, Two bad beatings today. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 21, 2023 22:27:13 GMT
Tyrone looked fair ordinary tonight, Derry were full of energy, but dour enough game, cob webs and all that , but only a week out from the league. If that result for Meath is right, than that’s a fair old dusting for Donegal. Ah look we took a hammering from Cork too. A truer reflection will be the league. I expect Tyrone in particular to be good this year. So do I expect Tyrone to be much better. They did though have a fair few regulars tonight. Derry looked good though and that's without Conor Glass. |
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Post by horsebox77 on Jan 22, 2023 13:36:17 GMT
Listed as being live on TG4. TG4 showing Dublin vs Kildare Sat evening, RTE 2 showing Galway vs Mayo and then Sunday, Donegal and ourselves
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Post by horsebox77 on Jan 22, 2023 21:25:32 GMT
Kerry played Kildare today in Rathkeale - little enough info other than Paul Murphy played wing back with Mike Breen at midfield - Stefan Okunbar also had game time in the middle. Can any poster add meat to the bones here? |
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Post by horsebox77 on Jan 23, 2023 20:16:11 GMT
Jack has advised only five of the starting All Ireland XV is available for Sunday. Foley, Tom Sull, Tadgh Morley, Jack Barry and Graham Sull
"O’Connor also confirmed that Dingle’s Paul Geaney underwent a “procedure” on his ankle, that Séan O’Shea and Stephen O’Brien were unlikely to feature in the short-term and that Gavin White’s road to recovery, while well underway, couldn’t and wouldn’t be rushed.
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Post by The16thMan on Jan 23, 2023 21:46:27 GMT
Jack has advised only five of the starting All Ireland XV is available for Sunday. Foley, Tom Sull, Tadgh Morley, Jack Barry and Graham Sull "O’Connor also confirmed that Dingle’s Paul Geaney underwent a “procedure” on his ankle, that Séan O’Shea and Stephen O’Brien were unlikely to feature in the short-term and that Gavin White’s road to recovery, while well underway, couldn’t and wouldn’t be rushed. So to put it lightly we only have 4 backs and 1 midfielder fit for Donegal from last years starting XV. Should still be enough there for a strong Starting XV for the game Sunday. My predicted team for Sunday: 1) S.Murphy 2) G.O'Sullivan 3) J.Foley 4) T.O'Sullivan 5) M.Breen 6) T.Morley 7) P.Murphy 8) B.O'Sullivan 9) J.Barry 10) D.Moynihan 11) R.Buckley 12) M.Burns 13) T.Brosnan 14) D.Roche 15) K.Spillane Should be something close to that I imagine, possibly 1 or 2 changes to the half forward line but it should have enough quality to take the 2 points. It'll be interesting to see will it be Foley or Tom to mark McBrearty. |
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Post by horsebox77 on Jan 23, 2023 22:11:49 GMT
16thman,
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I think Dylan Casey or Dan Donoghue will get a corner berth with Graham going to the wing, Paul has a bit of ball played and even though he by all accounts played in the challenge vs Kildare I can see him rested as we have adequate defensive cover.
I think Buckley may start beside Jack Barry Adrain is also an option.
It's up front we are in most trouble, I agree with your FF line, although Brosnan is also a forty yard option. I wonder is Jack Savage inside? If not I think the half forward line will be O'Mahony, Darrren and maybe Burns or Savage, I'm struggling with this line. I can't see us creating much. Personally would rather see Donal Sull get in..
Murphy, Casey, Foley, Tom Sull, Breen, Morley, Graham, Barry, Spillane, Buckley, Darren, O'Mahony, Brosnan, Roche and Killian.
Gavin Crowley, Dan Donoghue, Stefan Okunbor, Burns to get game time as well as Donal Sull. We're very light in the forward division. Very light altogether.
Has Paul O'Shea totally fallen off the radar, I had such high high hopes for him ..
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Post by blacksheep21 on Jan 23, 2023 22:13:20 GMT
Gavin White will be out injured now for at least 6 months. While it all worked out in the final last year, he has paid a price for it.
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Post by blacksheep21 on Jan 23, 2023 22:14:41 GMT
16thman, 16thman I think Dylan Casey or Dan Donoghue will get a corner berth with Graham going to the wing, Paul has a bit of ball played and even though he by all accounts played in the challenge vs Kildare I can see him rested as we have adequate defensive cover. I think Buckley may start beside Jack Barry. It's up front we are in most trouble, I agree with your FF line, although Brosnan is also a forty yard option. I wonder is Jack Savage inside? If not I think the half forward line will be O'Mahony, Darrren and maybe Burns or Savage, I'm struggling with this line. I can't see us creating much. Personally would rather see Donal Sull get in.. Murphy, Casey, Foley, Tom Sull, Breen, Morley, Graham, Barry, Buckley, Darren, Brosnan, O'Mahony, Donal Sull, Roche and Killian. Gavin Crowley, Dan Donoghue, Stefan Okunbor, Burns to get game time. We're very light in the forward division. Very light altogether Jack Savage is gone back to dubai I believe. |
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Post by mike70 on Jan 23, 2023 22:39:15 GMT
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Post by The16thMan on Jan 23, 2023 22:47:54 GMT
Gavin White will be out injured now for at least 6 months. While it all worked out in the final last year, he has paid a price for it. 6 months from end of July when he originally suffered the injury? If so he should see some league action in a couple of months. Jack wouldn’t usually hold back when it comes to ruling fellas out and I think how he worded Gavins situation was along the lines of 'Gavins going well now and we won't be disturbing his rehab for a while yet'.. Not an 100% quote but that was what I gathered to mean he's on his way back but not quiet yet... Also, I've been told Joe O'Connor is back training, does anybody have an update on him? |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 23, 2023 22:54:48 GMT
16thman, 16thman I think Dylan Casey or Dan Donoghue will get a corner berth with Graham going to the wing, Paul has a bit of ball played and even though he by all accounts played in the challenge vs Kildare I can see him rested as we have adequate defensive cover. I think Buckley may start beside Jack Barry. It's up front we are in most trouble, I agree with your FF line, although Brosnan is also a forty yard option. I wonder is Jack Savage inside? If not I think the half forward line will be O'Mahony, Darrren and maybe Burns or Savage, I'm struggling with this line. I can't see us creating much. Personally would rather see Donal Sull get in.. Murphy, Casey, Foley, Tom Sull, Breen, Morley, Graham, Barry, Buckley, Darren, Brosnan, O'Mahony, Donal Sull, Roche and Killian. Gavin Crowley, Dan Donoghue, Stefan Okunbor, Burns to get game time. We're very light in the forward division. Very light altogether Jack Savage is gone back to dubai I believe. I thought Jack had committed to Kerry for the year ahead ? |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 23, 2023 23:17:21 GMT
I thought Jack had committed to Kerry for the year ahead ? Yes that was the story that was out there but I read an article today saying he going back to Dubai and will not be available to Kerry this year. That's another blow, Can't help but feel the chips are stacked against us already. |
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Post by pillar on Jan 23, 2023 23:31:22 GMT
That's another blow, Can't help but feel the chips are stacked against us already. Ah look its going to be hard to retain Sam and Jack has nt been able to do it before but maybe in spite of that he will be trying harder than ever. Also after winning last year one or two players might not be as determined this year subconsciously. I don't expect us to win league this year and once we not relegated I'll be content. For me to retain Sam is the only goal. Now it will be tough but at least the pressure is off now compared to the last few years so players might not be as nervous. If we can stay focused and get a bit of luck ré nó injuries etc then we still have a great chance. It's takes a good team to win but a great team to do back to back. The good thing is we still have room for improvement so for the moment I will be looking at glass half full. I honestly think that this year will be the true test of Jacks management. Had you taken David Clifford out of any of the last two games against Dublin and Galway we were sunk. This perception that well dominate for years to come is way off the mark. |
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jan 24, 2023 0:49:51 GMT
Gavin White will be out injured now for at least 6 months. While it all worked out in the final last year, he has paid a price for it. 6 months from end of July when he originally suffered the injury? If so he should see some league action in a couple of months. Jack wouldn’t usually hold back when it comes to ruling fellas out and I think how he worded Gavins situation was along the lines of 'Gavins going well now and we won't be disturbing his rehab for a while yet'.. Not an 100% quote but that was what I gathered to mean he's on his way back but not quiet yet... Also, I've been told Joe O'Connor is back training, does anybody have an update on him? Joe is hardly back training only did the cruciate 4 months ago. He’d be a huge boost but unfortunately I think he’s going to certainly miss out on the inter county season. I was just thinking too with Moran retiring and Diarmuid injured, he’d have been our main midfielder in the league if he was available which would have been a brilliantly opportunity for him. |
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jan 24, 2023 0:55:09 GMT
I’d go with
1. Shane Murphy
2. Dan O’Donoghue
3. Jason Foley
4. Tom O’Sullivan
5. Mike Breen
6. Tadhg Morley
7. Graham O’Sullivan
8. Mark Ryan
9. Jack Barry
10. Ronan Buckley
11. Dara Moynihan
12. Ruairi Murphy
13. Tony Brosnan
14. Dara Roche
15. Killian Spillane
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Post by Jo90 on Jan 24, 2023 0:56:32 GMT
I disagree, I think Kerry should be aiming to win as many competitions as possible. To cement that winning mentality. We can blood players whilst having a competitive team at the same time. Dubs won 4 League titles in a row between 2013-16 and went over 30 games unbeaten and it spurred them onto win All Irelands in the 4 years after also. Losing can become a habit just as easy as winning. Kerry need to keeping winning as many titles they can both in League & Championship. Of course they're going to try to win it, but last year Kerry had 3/4s or more of a full strength team out in every match. This year they'll be without the Cliffords and Ryan for a good bit of it, a lot of the new panelists will be given runs, so Kerry will be playing with a much weaker team than last year, so while the players they put out will be hell-bent on winning, they just mightn't have the quality of players, in the initial stages at least, to get enough points to make it to the league final. No danger of relegation with Roscommon, Monaghan and Donegal not in good places at the moment. Kind of what I've said - the players they have will be trying to win, but there'll be a lot of inexperienced players and the lack of experience and quality will make winning the league unrealistic. Sounds a bit like Limerick last year in the hurling - where they trained extremely hard throughout the league to make up for lost time after the team holiday and that, along with absent players meant winning the league wasn't doable. Hopefully the strategy will result in the same end result for Kerry in 2023 as it did for Limerick hurlers in 2022. |
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Post by mike70 on Jan 24, 2023 6:23:51 GMT
I think the challenge for the squad is a good one, we do need to test more players at a higher level, we constantly ask is this guy or that guy up to it, we’ll now we will find out, looking forward to see how the extended panel copes, bring it on.
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Post by percentageplay on Jan 24, 2023 8:40:39 GMT
Looking forward to the start of the league now, there is definitely an added interest, well for me anyway, when there are new players to watch or to watch players attempt to take a chance when given it! As odd as it may sound, when it comes to the league, I would prefer to watch experimental Kerry teams/line ups every time over settled/first choice line ups.
At the very least relegation has to be avoided which can be down by winning at home and taking one scalp on the road. That plus new options would be a good league campaign.
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Post by clarinman on Jan 24, 2023 9:01:58 GMT
Of course they're going to try to win it, but last year Kerry had 3/4s or more of a full strength team out in every match. This year they'll be without the Cliffords and Ryan for a good bit of it, a lot of the new panelists will be given runs, so Kerry will be playing with a much weaker team than last year, so while the players they put out will be hell-bent on winning, they just mightn't have the quality of players, in the initial stages at least, to get enough points to make it to the league final. No danger of relegation with Roscommon, Monaghan and Donegal not in good places at the moment. Kind of what I've said - the players they have will be trying to win, but there'll be a lot of inexperienced players and the lack of experience and quality will make winning the league unrealistic. Sounds a bit like Limerick last year in the hurling - where they trained extremely hard throughout the league to make up for lost time after the team holiday and that, along with absent players meant winning the league wasn't doable. Hopefully the strategy will result in the same end result for Kerry in 2023 as it did for Limerick hurlers in 2022. There's a big difference in the competitiveness of the hurling and football leagues. Limerick could coast through the hurling league last year knowing that all they had to do was beat Westmeath to retain their division 1 status. That strategy won't work in division 1 of the football league with 2 to go down. The division 1 hurling league is almost irrelevant now with teams not wanting to give anything away before the round robin starts after the league. |
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Post by givehimaball on Jan 24, 2023 10:20:25 GMT
Gavin White will be out injured now for at least 6 months. While it all worked out in the final last year, he has paid a price for it. 6 months from end of July when he originally suffered the injury? If so he should see some league action in a couple of months. Jack wouldn’t usually hold back when it comes to ruling fellas out and I think how he worded Gavins situation was along the lines of 'Gavins going well now and we won't be disturbing his rehab for a while yet'.. Not an 100% quote but that was what I gathered to mean he's on his way back but not quiet yet... Also, I've been told Joe O'Connor is back training, does anybody have an update on him? Was talking to someone from Crokes at the weekend and they were saying Gavin's recovery had gone well and he was in good nick. From what they said/the way they were talking, I was expecting him to feature a good bit in the league with the only area of concern being a bit of a lack in terms of match practice. They would be fairly well-connected in terms of the Crokes and I'd trust them to have fairly solid info. Would have asked for a bit more detail if I'd have seen Jack's comment. |
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Post by givehimaball on Jan 24, 2023 10:29:06 GMT
There's a big difference in the competitiveness of the hurling and football leagues. Limerick could coast through the hurling league last year knowing that all they had to do was beat Westmeath to retain their division 1 status. That strategy won't work in division 1 of the football league with 2 to go down. The division 1 hurling league is almost irrelevant now with teams not wanting to give anything away before the round robin starts after the league. Yeah the hurling league is a bit of a farce with the relegation system, the round-robin provincials and the much small numbers in Liam McCarthy. Watching last year's league I definitely got the feeling that Limerick weren't the only ones who were more concerned about managing fitness and timing their training for championship time. For the Ulster and Connacht teams with the way the provincials draws are the football league is going to be more important than ever with the new structure. Ending up as 4th Seed as opposed to a 3rd Seed in the Group Stages will reduce a team's chances even further. |
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Post by givehimaball on Jan 24, 2023 10:35:46 GMT
6 months from end of July when he originally suffered the injury? If so he should see some league action in a couple of months. Jack wouldn’t usually hold back when it comes to ruling fellas out and I think how he worded Gavins situation was along the lines of 'Gavins going well now and we won't be disturbing his rehab for a while yet'.. Not an 100% quote but that was what I gathered to mean he's on his way back but not quiet yet... Also, I've been told Joe O'Connor is back training, does anybody have an update on him? Joe is hardly back training only did the cruciate 4 months ago. He’d be a huge boost but unfortunately I think he’s going to certainly miss out on the inter county season. I was just thinking too with Moran retiring and Diarmuid injured, he’d have been our main midfielder in the league if he was available which would have been a brilliantly opportunity for him. Based on my knowledge of cruicate injuires (limited enough) I think it's far likelier Joe is rehabbing as opposed to actual full training with the squad i.e. he is doing work to rehab the injury, build up strength in muscles and keep some level of fitness. I'd say he likely a good few months away from being back to 100% full contact training. I'd be surprised if we see him in a Kerry jersey this year. I'd be thinking that some club action this year is the more realistic goal. |
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Post by horsebox77 on Jan 24, 2023 18:32:05 GMT
I see kerry radio have confirmed the unavailability of Savage for the coming year online.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Jan 24, 2023 19:14:47 GMT
No Savage and no Moran will make the task at hand a bit tougher. Last league campaign we did well mostly because of Sean O'Shea and the two Cliffords.
We really need the likes of Killian and Brosnan to step up this year.
Will Diarmuid O'Connor be back in time as midfield needs him and Barry?
Then again this league campaign might give more players a chance to put up their hands.
Already planning my trek to Donegal and will be leaving Limerick city around 7am.
That should get me in Ballybofey for noon, a quick bite, a coffee in the Villa Rose and the game.
Leaving Ballybofey happily I hope around 16:30, dinner in Sligo at 18:00
Back home in Limerick at 22:00
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