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Post by john4 on May 19, 2022 9:42:15 GMT
Is there a trend of returned Aussie rules players coming unstuck as they readjust - David and Tommy, and now Stefan? If there are any physio or medic types among us they may shed some light here, or maybe it is all just coincidence as opposed to a common cause? I always held the belief that the Irish lads that go to Australia would be pushed harder, physically tested more, and let known that they have to prove themselves way more than home grown talent. I look at this in reverse, imagine an Australian lad coming over here to make the Kerry team. Would it go down well with everyone?. I think he'd get a fair horsing around to test him out. Unfortunately for us though, when the Aussies have done their little test on our guys, of whom very few make it through btw, they get sent back to us. battered.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 19, 2022 10:00:27 GMT
Is there a trend of returned Aussie rules players coming unstuck as they readjust - David and Tommy, and now Stefan? If there are any physio or medic types among us they may shed some light here, or maybe it is all just coincidence as opposed to a common cause? I always held the belief that the Irish lads that go to Australia would be pushed harder, physically tested more, and let known that they have to prove themselves way more than home grown talent. I look at this in reverse, imagine an Australian lad coming over here to make the Kerry team. Would it go down well with everyone?. I think he'd get a fair horsing around to test him out. Unfortunately for us though, when the Aussies have done their little test on our guys, of whom very few make it through btw, they get sent back to us. battered. Mark O'Connor spoke recently with Colm Parkinson and expressed that if he stayed here it is possible his knees might not have been able to last it. He felt the professional setup in Aus helped in that regard. This is slightly oblique to your point.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2022 11:18:28 GMT
Is there a trend of returned Aussie rules players coming unstuck as they readjust - David and Tommy, and now Stefan? If there are any physio or medic types among us they may shed some light here, or maybe it is all just coincidence as opposed to a common cause? David?
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on May 19, 2022 11:23:51 GMT
We can't realistically take Stefan into consideration when he only kicked only one hour or so of intercounty footbsll in a Mickey Mouse McGrath Cup.. With Jack you d never know. In 2004 v Dublin in all ireland quarter final he picked Paddy Kelly (Asdee) midfield out of the blue. He had never even played a league game for Kerry previously. His first game was to face Dubs in croker. Is this a fresh injury for Stefan? Asdee was one of the few clubs in Kerry that Paddy Kelly didn’t play for. He was a Ballylongford/Mitchels/Listowel man
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on May 19, 2022 11:25:13 GMT
All in all it’s safe to say that the early rounds of the championship are a pile of sh*te compared to the league. Nowhere near the same interest or quality of game
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 19, 2022 11:30:39 GMT
Is there a trend of returned Aussie rules players coming unstuck as they readjust - David and Tommy, and now Stefan? If there are any physio or medic types among us they may shed some light here, or maybe it is all just coincidence as opposed to a common cause? David? Moran... was he there even six weeks?
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Post by The16thMan on May 19, 2022 12:16:27 GMT
Tickets are €40 for Stand and €30 for Terrace. Not sure why Munster is more expensive than Connacht and Leinster but it is
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Post by john4 on May 19, 2022 12:18:27 GMT
I always held the belief that the Irish lads that go to Australia would be pushed harder, physically tested more, and let known that they have to prove themselves way more than home grown talent. I look at this in reverse, imagine an Australian lad coming over here to make the Kerry team. Would it go down well with everyone?. I think he'd get a fair horsing around to test him out. Unfortunately for us though, when the Aussies have done their little test on our guys, of whom very few make it through btw, they get sent back to us. battered. Mark O'Connor spoke recently with Colm Parkinson and expressed that if he stayed here it is possible his knees might not have been able to last it. He felt the professional setup in Aus helped in that regard. This is slightly oblique to your point. He may have made as equal a full recovery if he stayed here. No way of knowing. It's just his own opinion that he recovered better in Australia. I don't know of anyone who said that the physio therapeutic care on offer from Kerry Gaa was anything other than top class. Sure if he's looking for the grass to be greener it probably will appear that way.
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Post by dc84 on May 19, 2022 12:23:16 GMT
That's fairly spicy for what it is , will there blasted provincals ever be over so the championship can begin ! Bar Derry and I suppose Galway beating mayo there hasn't been much to get excited about has there really ? Some tasty qualifiers ( probably be on sky) and hopefully 4 good quarters to come next month. It's all a bit meh at the moment
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Post by thehermit on May 19, 2022 12:37:21 GMT
Tickets are €40 for Stand and €30 for Terrace. Not sure why Munster is more expensive than Connacht and Leinster but it is I was one of the lucky few that got to go to the Munster final last July when it was the reduced capacity of 1500. It was actually the same price last year but still €40 bloody quid!
With the recent cost of living crisis I'm really beginning to see the impact on what I get into my hand at the end of the week. I'm sure I'm not the only GAA supporter in that boat, you would think the GAA could be somewhat sensitive to that given what's going on in wider society.
Rents are crazy and only getting worse, esp in the part of the county I'm exiled in. The round trip home last weekend to take in the hurlers cost the guts of €100 in diesel. It was similar getting down to Cork and given the price of accommodation I forked out €140 for a bed on the Saturday night in a mediocre hotel in Shandon.
I know its my love and passion but when going to a game ends up costing €200-250 euro all in you start to have second thoughts.
Haven't had a pint in Killarney since last summer, no doubt their reaching the €6 mark now too
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 19, 2022 12:40:22 GMT
Mark O'Connor spoke recently with Colm Parkinson and expressed that if he stayed here it is possible his knees might not have been able to last it. He felt the professional setup in Aus helped in that regard. This is slightly oblique to your point. He may have made as equal a full recovery if he stayed here. No way of knowing. It's just his own opinion that he recovered better in Australia. I don't know of anyone who said that the physio therapeutic care on offer from Kerry Gaa was anything other than top class. Sure if he's looking for the grass to be greener it probably will appear that way. If I recall correctly it was less about the specific care and more about the fact in Aus he is a professional and can rest fully. So pro vs amateur rather than Aus vs Kerry... he was in no way disparaging about Kerry.
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Post by Mickmack on May 19, 2022 15:42:59 GMT
Tickets are €40 for Stand and €30 for Terrace. Not sure why Munster is more expensive than Connacht and Leinster but it is I was one of the lucky few that got to go to the Munster final last July when it was the reduced capacity of 1500. It was actually the same price last year but still €40 bloody quid!
With the recent cost of living crisis I'm really beginning to see the impact on what I get into my hand at the end of the week. I'm sure I'm not the only GAA supporter in that boat, you would think the GAA could be somewhat sensitive to that given what's going on in wider society. Rents are crazy and only getting worse, esp in the part of the county I'm exiled in. The round trip home last weekend to take in the hurlers cost the guts of €100 in diesel. It was similar getting down to Cork and given the price of accommodation I forked out €140 for a bed on the Saturday night in a mediocre hotel in Shandon.
I know its my love and passion but when going to a game ends up costing €200-250 euro all in you start to have second thoughts.
Haven't had a pint in Killarney since last summer, no doubt their reaching the €6 mark now too This is another bad call by the Munster Council. Why not charge 20e for adults and let kids in free and try and fill the place. Limerick supporters are looking at 3 big hurling matches in the next few months including two trips to Dublin. They will give this a miss at 40e a pop. The footballers of Limerick could do with a lot of support but there is only so much money to go around.
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Post by southward on May 19, 2022 17:22:05 GMT
With the recent cost of living crisis I'm really beginning to see the impact on what I get into my hand at the end of the week. I'm sure I'm not the only GAA supporter in that boat, you would think the GAA could be somewhat sensitive to that given what's going on in wider society. They see what's going on alright. And say "me too"
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Post by john4 on May 19, 2022 17:31:44 GMT
With the recent cost of living crisis I'm really beginning to see the impact on what I get into my hand at the end of the week. I'm sure I'm not the only GAA supporter in that boat, you would think the GAA could be somewhat sensitive to that given what's going on in wider society. They see what's going on alright. And say "me too" Are they trying to recover loss of income due to the PUR fiasco!
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Post by southward on May 19, 2022 18:18:17 GMT
They see what's going on alright. And say "me too" Are they trying to recover loss of income due to the PUR fiasco! Wouldn't that be some irony - Kerry & Limerick punters being the ones tapped up to pay for it? At any rate it's tone-deaf by the GAA in the current circumstances and I think it may well backfire on them. No disrespect to Limerick but this game isn't exactly box-office. Kerry punters will likely have bigger occasions to fork out for in another few weeks, as will Limerick people with the hurling. And of course it will be televised free-to-air anyway. Could end up with a very small crowd here, especially if the weather isn't great. I'd be thinking again if I was the Munster Council. €20 a head might be much more profitable in the end.
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Post by thehermit on May 19, 2022 19:19:19 GMT
Are they trying to recover loss of income due to the PUR fiasco! Wouldn't that be some irony - Kerry & Limerick punters being the ones tapped up to pay for it? At any rate it's tone-deaf by the GAA in the current circumstances and I think it may well backfire on them. No disrespect to Limerick but this game isn't exactly box-office. Kerry punters will likely have bigger occasions to fork out for in another few weeks, as will Limerick people with the hurling. And of course it will be televised free-to-air anyway. Could end up with a very small crowd here, especially if the weather isn't great. I'd be thinking again if I was the Munster Council. €20 a head might be much more profitable in the end. Yeah €20-25 what's wrong with that? Why can't the GAA's tickets be far more reasonable for games at this stage of the competition.
I had to slog hard to get my C1 in honours maths but even my tenuous grasp of numbers tells me 25,000 people @€20 is better than 10,000 @€40!
Surely encouraging a decent attendance and trying to create an atmosphere with kids ect would serve the GAA so much better at a time when criticism of the provincial championships and the early weeks of the All-Irelands is at an all time high?
You'd have to wonder about the people making these decisions and what they really have to do with the sporting aspect of these competitions.
Then again I suppose its a few years now since I lost my bit of innocence and naivety about what the GAA was meant to stand for after seeing the likes of the Sky Deal and what was done with Dublin GAA.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 19, 2022 19:27:54 GMT
Wouldn't that be some irony - Kerry & Limerick punters being the ones tapped up to pay for it? At any rate it's tone-deaf by the GAA in the current circumstances and I think it may well backfire on them. No disrespect to Limerick but this game isn't exactly box-office. Kerry punters will likely have bigger occasions to fork out for in another few weeks, as will Limerick people with the hurling. And of course it will be televised free-to-air anyway. Could end up with a very small crowd here, especially if the weather isn't great. I'd be thinking again if I was the Munster Council. €20 a head might be much more profitable in the end. Yeah €20-25 what's wrong with that? Why can't the GAA's tickets be far more reasonable for games at this stage of the competition. I had to slog hard to get my C1 in honours maths but even my tenuous grasp of numbers tells me 25,000 people @€20 is better than 10,000 @€40!
Surely encouraging a decent attendance and trying to create an atmosphere with kids ect would serve the GAA so much better at a time when criticism of the provincial championships and the early weeks of the All-Irelands is at an all time high? You'd have to wonder about the people making these decisions and what they really have to do with the sporting aspect of these competitions. Then again I suppose its a few years now since I lost my bit of innocence and naivety about what the GAA was meant to stand for after seeing the likes of the Sky Deal and what was done with Dublin GAA.
Your second paragraph - which I agree with wholeheartedly- is in my opinion at odds with your last paragraph.
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Post by thehermit on May 19, 2022 19:43:53 GMT
Yeah €20-25 what's wrong with that? Why can't the GAA's tickets be far more reasonable for games at this stage of the competition. I had to slog hard to get my C1 in honours maths but even my tenuous grasp of numbers tells me 25,000 people @€20 is better than 10,000 @€40!
Surely encouraging a decent attendance and trying to create an atmosphere with kids ect would serve the GAA so much better at a time when criticism of the provincial championships and the early weeks of the All-Irelands is at an all time high? You'd have to wonder about the people making these decisions and what they really have to do with the sporting aspect of these competitions. Then again I suppose its a few years now since I lost my bit of innocence and naivety about what the GAA was meant to stand for after seeing the likes of the Sky Deal and what was done with Dublin GAA.
Your second paragraph - which I agree with wholeheartedly- is in my opinion at odds with your last paragraph. [ Aspiration v reality
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Post by horsebox77 on May 19, 2022 20:07:31 GMT
Mad pricing in fairness, between tickets, fuel and a bite to eat it fairly adds up for a family.
Looking online reading again, it's €40 stand but €30 terrace ya?
Are kids free?
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Post by john4 on May 19, 2022 20:41:07 GMT
Mad pricing in fairness, between tickets, fuel and a bite to eat it fairly adds up for a family. Looking online reading again, it's €40 stand but €30 terrace ya? Are kids free? Crazy pricing imo. Think they've completely misjudged this one. People are very conscious of the cost of stuff at the moment and where there's value to be had. Juvenile tickets are available for €5
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Post by Mickmack on May 20, 2022 7:54:28 GMT
The Munster council wont have any problem selling tickets at 40e each for Clare v Limerick in the Munster hurling final so i spose they cant be seen to charge less for the football equivalent.
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Post by The16thMan on May 20, 2022 8:19:04 GMT
I originally said 25,000 could be there but now I can't see more than 15,000 now with the prices of tickets. Supporters will not spend €30 or €40 to watch a hammering. With Liverpool playing that night I'm sure people will keep the high cost of the ticket in reserve to enjoy the Champions League final that night in a pub or something. The GAA need to look at the prices, upping the season tickets to €150 and now this. The All Ireland Final tickets will probably be €100 this year I'm guessing. It's no wonder they are struggling to fill stadiums.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 20, 2022 8:31:00 GMT
I originally said 25,000 could be there but now I can't see more than 15,000 now with the prices of tickets. Supporters will not spend €30 or €40 to watch a hammering. With Liverpool playing that night I'm sure people will keep the high cost of the ticket in reserve to enjoy the Champions League final that night in a pub or something. The GAA need to look at the prices, upping the season tickets to €150 and now this. The All Ireland Final tickets will probably be €100 this year I'm guessing. It's no wonder they are struggling to fill stadiums. They should maximise for profit because that money is good for grassroots... I struggle to see how €40 does that. And that doesn't necessarily imply charging €120 for an AIF by the way. You can kill a goose. Make a pound a day for the week in this context is better than making a fiver on Monday and then no more for the week.
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Post by horsebox77 on May 20, 2022 9:01:49 GMT
The Munster council wont have any problem selling tickets at 40e each for Clare v Limerick in the Munster hurling final so i spose they cant be seen to charge less for the football equivalent. This is probably the most accurate post to explain the costings dished out to punters. Like another post above, I can’t see us breaking or getting anywhere near the 20,000 mark after the price of the tickets were publicised. The gaa most definitely have the head in the sand here. Most families would bring the kids to a Munster final as opposed to a quarter or semi as it would be invariably the cheaper option of a local day out as opposed to filling.a car and additional costs of a long day out to the capital. The fact the game is on the box, added with the Heineken Cup and Champions league .. the gaa top brass are a tad deluded
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Post by thehermit on May 20, 2022 9:03:23 GMT
Ah sure the blue elephant has to be well oiled doesn't it, let the rest of us chumps pay both on and off the field for that like we've been doing for years now ;D
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 20, 2022 10:18:55 GMT
Ah sure the blue elephant has to be well oiled doesn't it, let the rest of us chumps pay both on and off the field for that like we've been doing for years now ;D I don't think this makes much sense considering we believe a different ticket pricing structure would get more profit, and surely the majority of the proceeds go to the Munster Council (I am guessing). Unless you are jesting.
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Post by thehermit on May 20, 2022 10:33:59 GMT
Ah sure the blue elephant has to be well oiled doesn't it, let the rest of us chumps pay both on and off the field for that like we've been doing for years now ;D I don't think this makes much sense considering we believe a different ticket pricing structure would get more profit, and surely the majority of the proceeds go to the Munster Council (I am guessing). Unless you are jesting. Yes and no: I've no doubt plenty of hard earned money from Kerry supporters (and the rest) down the years has found its way into Dublin GAA's enormous funding kitty via ticket prices.
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Post by thehermit on May 20, 2022 10:39:58 GMT
Yeah €20-25 what's wrong with that? Why can't the GAA's tickets be far more reasonable for games at this stage of the competition.
I had to slog hard to get my C1 in honours maths but even my tenuous grasp of numbers tells me 25,000 people @€20 is better than 10,000 @€40!
Surely encouraging a decent attendance and trying to create an atmosphere with kids ect would serve the GAA so much better at a time when criticism of the provincial championships and the early weeks of the All-Irelands is at an all time high?
You'd have to wonder about the people making these decisions and what they really have to do with the sporting aspect of these competitions.
Then again I suppose its a few years now since I lost my bit of innocence and naivety about what the GAA was meant to stand for after seeing the likes of the Sky Deal and what was done with Dublin GAA.
Those tickets prices would really test ones loyalty to attending matches particular coupled with the current economic issues. Also, when paying 40 euro to enter a stadium you would expect the facilities within to be of a good standard, unfortunately this is not the case in Killarney at the moment. The county boards diversion of funding away from Killarney to Tralee is partly to blame. Also, just for context, one could attend Munster V Toulouse and Leinster V Toulouse in Landsdown Road for 10euro a ticket. Not all tickets were that price but a good portion were. Over 40k attended the Munster match as a result in saying that the show on offer was some what better. Exactly, although in relation to Killarney its only fair to point out that Kerry GAA does not own the stadium and so that might impinge on what work they can do on it.
But I do think both grounds could do with some more upgrading, the Horans end in Tralee needs to be made into a proper terrace and the toilets need to be modernised. Similarly in Killarney, the town scoreboard end should be a proper terrace and the toilets there are decades old.
Would like to see proper seats put into Killarney too, was in O'Moore Park for the U20 semi-final and if similar seating was done in the stand in Fitzgerald's it would make all the difference.
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Post by Mickmack on May 20, 2022 10:53:45 GMT
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 20, 2022 11:22:59 GMT
I don't think this makes much sense considering we believe a different ticket pricing structure would get more profit, and surely the majority of the proceeds go to the Munster Council (I am guessing). Unless you are jesting. Yes and no: I've no doubt plenty of hard earned money from Kerry supporters (and the rest) down the years has found its way into Dublin GAA's enormous funding kitty via ticket prices.
A reasonable question is to what extent massive Dublin crowds from about 2000 to the mid 2010s funded the GAA. I am not about to argue that that justifies anything either way.
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