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Post by royalkerryfan on May 3, 2022 15:38:57 GMT
Sorry but comparing Derry and Cork is not rational in any way. For starters it is a local derby and where you have hot favourites vs outsiders, a lethal combination that defies logic. Yes there is gap and maybe I am a bit more knowledgeable on things Ulster than most, and probably less so on Cork, but 2020 also happened. Ah let's see, we should trash them but that's what Tyrone thought and plenty of talk like that turns a Corkman into something irrational that I'd prefer not to face. Are you really saying the rebels have no chance whatsoever - would you bet your life on it? Why do you think Cork were desperate for PUR ? They know there is a gulf in class at the moment. Cork and not Derry, I'd be nervous if Kerry were playing Derry.
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Post by dc84 on May 3, 2022 15:59:01 GMT
I think the qualifier route is the ideal way to go this year but how do Kerry manage to go that route....i know! Maybe Tyrone have decided that the qualifier route is the best route.....who knows with them. The question around Tyrone is how could they have been so sharp in last 2 league games, and then show up a few weeks later , looking way off the boil, I think they may well have prioritised training, knowing they were well of the level to win an all ireland and if a consequence of training hard was the back door, they may have well decided to take that risk, they are a better team than Derry in my book. Again it’s all conjecture but how does one explain there fall off. They have lost 7 players as well off the panel how do you explain that ? The two are probably linked something isnt 100% in there. there is no team like Tyrone fully commited and firing on all cylinders same as in the noughties but when they aren't on it they really aren't on it.
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 3, 2022 16:50:01 GMT
We're talking in circles here and we are lacking so much detail into the bargain, and then the whole unpredictability factor. Omagh proved you cannot take anything for granted, and that whatever Tyrone were or weren't up to - they porky pied last year and we have fools to this day who are still wet behind the ears on this.
Dublin having a bounce and Donegal are going better than ever in training by all accounts, and there are also others - was it ever as open between half a dozen or so? It is 15 vs 15 on a field where anything can happen, and anything usually happens - who'd have thought Tyrone would do it year and that Dubs would now be in Div 2?
It is obvious Rebels are weak but is the gap bigger than in 2020, and PUR will suit them more by suiting us less. JackO isn't proven on strategy and tactics, Cian O'Neill had a big role in undoing PK, maybe Tally is a plug there but Dooher and Logan are formidable both sides of the side line - I believe we have the beating of the rest put together if we get our heads right, we have talent to burn, just need to be crafty, very.
Can anyone say that the Tyrone 7 won't parachute in - ah they changed their minds when they saw their county needed them. They have only one thing in their heads - back-to-backs that eluded Mickey; there will be surprises and this may be the biggest one, well I won't be surprised if it is. And they'd be delighted to think we are distracted by their antics, all part of the game whether we like it or not. PatS called it and Éamonn said there is more to come from Tyrone and they are not bad pundits.
We are all looking at the same picture here and if we took away the veneer I'd say our opinions wouldn't be far apart.
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Post by mike70 on May 3, 2022 17:46:56 GMT
We're talking in circles here and we are lacking so much detail into the bargain, and then the whole unpredictability factor. Omagh proved you cannot take anything for granted, and that whatever Tyrone were or weren't up to - they porky pied last year and we have fools to this day who are still wet behind the ears on this. Dublin having a bounce and Donegal are going better than ever in training by all accounts, and there are also others - was it ever as open between half a dozen or so? It is 15 vs 15 on a field where anything can happen, and anything usually happens - who'd have thought Tyrone would do it year and that Dubs would now be in Div 2? It is obvious Rebels are weak but is the gap bigger than in 2020, and PUR will suit them more by suiting us less. JackO isn't proven on strategy and tactics, Cian O'Neill had a big role in undoing PK, maybe Tally is a plug there but Dooher and Logan are formidable both sides of the side line - I believe we have the beating of the rest put together if we get our heads right, we have talent to burn, just need to be crafty, very. Can anyone say that the Tyrone 7 won't parachute in - ah they changed their minds when they saw their county needed them. They have only one thing in their heads - back-to-backs that eluded Mickey; there will be surprises and this may be the biggest one, well I won't be surprised if it is. And they'd be delighted to think we are distracted by their antics, all part of the game whether we like it or not. PatS called it and Éamonn said there is more to come from Tyrone and they are not bad pundits. We are all looking at the same picture here and if we took away the veneer I'd say our opinions wouldn't be far apart. Appreciate it’s all speculation around Tyrone, sure we have nothing else to do🙋🏻, anyway looking forward to PUR
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Post by Mickmack on May 3, 2022 17:58:49 GMT
TUE, 03 MAY, 2022 - 18:35 EOGHAN CORMICAN
Seán Powter looks set to make his first appearance for the Cork footballers in three months in Saturday’s Munster SFC semi-final against Kerry.
The 24-year-old, who was forced to sit out Rounds 3 through 7 of the Allianz League after suffering his latest hamstring injury in the first half of February’s Sigerson Cup final, returned to full contact training in the past fortnight and so is in contention for game-time at Páirc Uí Rinn.
“He's back now, so hopefully he can stay injury free,” said interim Cork manager John Cleary, adding that management will make a final call on Powter later in the week.
John Cooper is another half-back that management will wait until later in the week before making a final decision on his Páirc Uí Rinn involvement after the Éire Óg newcomer, who has yet to play championship for Cork, picked up a calf injury last weekend.
Tadhg Corkery, Brian Hartnett, Paul Walsh, and Brian Hayes have all overcome their respective injuries and are available for selection.
Definitely ruled out, as was reported two weeks ago, is midfield general Ian Maguire.
“Hopefully for the following game, whenever it is, that he's a chance of being back for that,” Cleary continued.
“Sean Powter, Ian Maguire, these fellas will play on one leg. They want to play against Kerry, they want to play the big games, but like the medical people keep saying to us, you've got to look at the bigger picture.
"A week or two now could mean you'll have them for the rest of the season, whereas if they go out here the next day, they could break down and that's it for them.
“Killian O'Hanlon, Liam Donovan, they're long term [injuries], but they're back in training, Conor Corbett also.”
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Post by Mickmack on May 3, 2022 18:01:04 GMT
Ronan McCarthy: 'This toing and froing of players between codes has never really benefitted Cork football'
McCarthy, who stepped away last year having players’ support but not the backing of the county executive, estimates there were at least seven of the Cork hurlers in Thurles on Sunday who would be “high quality footballers”.
TUE, 03 MAY, 2022 - 16:51 JOHN FOGARTY Former Cork manager Ronan McCarthy says football in the county can only move forward if young dual players are issued with an ultimatum to stay with a code after U20 level.
McCarthy, who stepped away last year having players’ support but not the backing of the county executive, estimates there were at least seven of the Cork hurlers in Thurles on Sunday who would be “high quality footballers”.
Explaining one of the reasons why Cork football have struggled in recent times, he pointed to the age-old difficulty of dual players migrating towards the hurling set-up. The Douglas man revealed that in his four years in charge he never allowed a player back to the football group after they had opted for hurling.
“From a Cork point of view, it is time to burn the boats if I could use that phrase,” he told the Irish Examiner’s live football podcast special in Dingle. “The message that we gave to players from my time from ‘18 on was ‘if you go, you’re not coming back’. I think that message has to start now. Let players play up to of course U17 and U20, let them play both, but this toing and froing of players from hurling to football has never really benefitted Cork football.
“A good example of that is Aidan Walsh, a two-time All-Star in football, and he drifts off playing hurling and really ended up playing neither. Mark Keane, for example, is not playing football at the moment but is playing very little hurling as well.
“So we’ve never really benefitted from our dual code. Cork hurling has to do what’s best for Cork hurling, no issue with that whatsoever. And if a player makes a decision about where they want to go, perfect, but ‘you’re not coming back’. Until we make that decision, we’re going to struggle a bit.”
Regarding Darragh Ó Sé’s disparaging remarks about Cork in his Irish Times column last week, McCarthy mentioned the former Kerry midfielder’s poor managerial return. “Darragh was a manager of a Kerry U21 team for three years that didn’t manage to win a championship game. I’m sure he wouldn’t say about his team that they didn’t give their effort and everything else.” McCarthy is optimistic Cork can be competitive against Kerry in Saturday’s Munster semi-final providing they retain more of the ball than they did in the 2021 Munster final when they lost by 24 points. “I think Cork, if they set up properly and get a foothold in the game, can be within five or six points of Kerry.
“Go back to the game in Killarney last year, we were absolutely hosed on our own and their kick-outs. I think Kerry won 75% of all kick-outs. With the quality of the forward line they have... and Kerry are also a great team playing with the handbrake off, when the game is gone. They will put you to the sword. It happened to Tyrone, it happened to Galway. Even if you look at the game against Dublin in the league, it was four points to three 15, 17 minutes in the first half and Dublin were 14 points down at half-time.
“I think Cork can’t do as badly as we did last year off kick-outs. You’d hope we’d win an adequate amount of possession. The second thing, if you look at the goal Kerry got immediately after half-time in Killarney last year, Brian Hurley took a shot that went into the air and the ball landed very near the post and the two closest players to that were Ian Maguire and Brian Hartnett, our two midfielders. The ball went out over the top, goal below, eight points down, you’re playing against the wind, against a quality side it went away from us very quickly.”
McCarthy also touched on his 12-week suspension last year arising from the training session on Youghal beach in January when the collective gatherings were not permitted as part of the lockdown.
He contested the ban all the way to the Disputes Resolution Authority (DRA) who endorsed the penalty but queried why there was no reason given for him receiving more than the minimum suspension. McCarthy felt the DRA acted objectively but remarked the earlier part of the disciplinary process was “not perfect”. He added: “To this day, I’m still waiting to be told what Covid rule that we broke. The penalty was for breaching the closed season.”
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Post by Mickmack on May 3, 2022 18:01:49 GMT
Nice little dig at Darragh there.
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Post by Corner Back on May 3, 2022 18:55:54 GMT
Is there public transport from City to PUR ? or is just walk The 215a bus goes from South Mall and City hall every 30 minutes around 5 to the hour and 25 past. It stops directly opposite PUR.
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Post by mike70 on May 3, 2022 19:43:03 GMT
Nice little dig at Darragh there. Knockout I think.
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Post by tpo on May 3, 2022 19:53:11 GMT
Is there public transport from City to PUR ? or is just walk The 215a bus goes from South Mall and City hall every 30 minutes around 5 to the hour and 25 past. It stops directly opposite PUR. The 215A seam's a Monday to Friday only service
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Post by tpo on May 3, 2022 20:29:01 GMT
Is Darragh managing any club team this year?
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Post by Mickmack on May 3, 2022 20:31:55 GMT
Nice little dig at Darragh there. Proper order too. I sometimes wonder what Darragh and Tomas are thinking the way they constantly throw digs at Cork thus giving them extra incentive.Ronan Mccarthy was dead right with his retort.In 15 Darragh ridiculed Cork before munster final and we ended up very lucky to escape with a draw in Killarney.Same with both Darragh and Tomas in 2020 and Cork won afterwards.Great players with Kerry but have nt served Kerry too well with their newspaper articles or as McCarthy said in management either. I think Darragh may have been trying to rile up Cork to try to get a battle on Saturday. "Where is your f...... pride" as Kieran Fitzgerald famously roared to his Irish Rugby colleagues all those years ago. If it works out that way it will be to Kerrys benefit.
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 3, 2022 21:04:10 GMT
Nice little dig at Darragh there. Proper order too. I sometimes wonder what Darragh and Tomas are thinking the way they constantly throw digs at Cork thus giving them extra incentive.Ronan Mccarthy was dead right with his retort.In 15 Darragh ridiculed Cork before munster final and we ended up very lucky to escape with a draw in Killarney.Same with both Darragh and Tomas in 2020 and Cork won afterwards.Great players with Kerry but have nt served Kerry too well with their newspaper articles or as McCarthy said in management either. Did Darragh say anything that wasn't accurate? Most people are sick of reading the usual bland articles that say nothing at all. Hopefully we get a reaction out of Cork we need it.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2022 21:13:26 GMT
Nice to see McCarthy throw that dig at Daragh.
Daragh is entitled to his views of course and he is not too far wrong either in some ways but the article offers nothing in terms of analysis and is straight from the Joe Brolly school of insults.
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Post by misteallaigh abú on May 3, 2022 21:56:23 GMT
We should win with a bit to soare. But if we didn't, I wouldn't fear the backdoor. Yes there may be a few big fish there but if we were to lose again in a qualifier surely we can accept that then we weren't/aren't good enough. I think there is too much fear and concern around other teams and other scenarios. I hope the management/team are on the other side of that and have a laser like focus on the things that they can control. They have a process and way of playing that they all are fully invested in. Thats what will win us the All Ireland. We need to stop the fear and dread and embrace the hunger and ability. Agreed, spot on.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on May 4, 2022 0:14:06 GMT
If Kerry have any serious designs on winning the all Ireland this year they should go out put cork away on Saturday. Let's call a spade a spade. Cork have been diabolical in the league this year.
Even if they do go all out defense we have to have the tools and the plan to break it down. If we struggle to break down cork god help us if we meet a team with a proper defensive structure this year.
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 4, 2022 0:28:27 GMT
Ronan McCarthy: 'This toing and froing of players between codes has never really benefitted Cork football' McCarthy, who stepped away last year having players’ support but not the backing of the county executive, estimates there were at least seven of the Cork hurlers in Thurles on Sunday who would be “high quality footballers”. TUE, 03 MAY, 2022 - 16:51 JOHN FOGARTY Former Cork manager Ronan McCarthy says football in the county can only move forward if young dual players are issued with an ultimatum to stay with a code after U20 level. McCarthy, who stepped away last year having players’ support but not the backing of the county executive, estimates there were at least seven of the Cork hurlers in Thurles on Sunday who would be “high quality footballers”. Explaining one of the reasons why Cork football have struggled in recent times, he pointed to the age-old difficulty of dual players migrating towards the hurling set-up. The Douglas man revealed that in his four years in charge he never allowed a player back to the football group after they had opted for hurling. “From a Cork point of view, it is time to burn the boats if I could use that phrase,” he told the Irish Examiner’s live football podcast special in Dingle. “The message that we gave to players from my time from ‘18 on was ‘if you go, you’re not coming back’. I think that message has to start now. Let players play up to of course U17 and U20, let them play both, but this toing and froing of players from hurling to football has never really benefitted Cork football. “A good example of that is Aidan Walsh, a two-time All-Star in football, and he drifts off playing hurling and really ended up playing neither. Mark Keane, for example, is not playing football at the moment but is playing very little hurling as well. “So we’ve never really benefitted from our dual code. Cork hurling has to do what’s best for Cork hurling, no issue with that whatsoever. And if a player makes a decision about where they want to go, perfect, but ‘you’re not coming back’. Until we make that decision, we’re going to struggle a bit.” Regarding Darragh Ó Sé’s disparaging remarks about Cork in his Irish Times column last week, McCarthy mentioned the former Kerry midfielder’s poor managerial return. “Darragh was a manager of a Kerry U21 team for three years that didn’t manage to win a championship game. I’m sure he wouldn’t say about his team that they didn’t give their effort and everything else.” McCarthy is optimistic Cork can be competitive against Kerry in Saturday’s Munster semi-final providing they retain more of the ball than they did in the 2021 Munster final when they lost by 24 points. “I think Cork, if they set up properly and get a foothold in the game, can be within five or six points of Kerry. “Go back to the game in Killarney last year, we were absolutely hosed on our own and their kick-outs. I think Kerry won 75% of all kick-outs. With the quality of the forward line they have... and Kerry are also a great team playing with the handbrake off, when the game is gone. They will put you to the sword. It happened to Tyrone, it happened to Galway. Even if you look at the game against Dublin in the league, it was four points to three 15, 17 minutes in the first half and Dublin were 14 points down at half-time. “I think Cork can’t do as badly as we did last year off kick-outs. You’d hope we’d win an adequate amount of possession. The second thing, if you look at the goal Kerry got immediately after half-time in Killarney last year, Brian Hurley took a shot that went into the air and the ball landed very near the post and the two closest players to that were Ian Maguire and Brian Hartnett, our two midfielders. The ball went out over the top, goal below, eight points down, you’re playing against the wind, against a quality side it went away from us very quickly.” McCarthy also touched on his 12-week suspension last year arising from the training session on Youghal beach in January when the collective gatherings were not permitted as part of the lockdown. He contested the ban all the way to the Disputes Resolution Authority (DRA) who endorsed the penalty but queried why there was no reason given for him receiving more than the minimum suspension. McCarthy felt the DRA acted objectively but remarked the earlier part of the disciplinary process was “not perfect”. He added: “To this day, I’m still waiting to be told what Covid rule that we broke. The penalty was for breaching the closed season.” I believe Donegal laddos a while back had to decide on their preferred code between football (as they call soccer) and 'The Gaelic' as early as 16 though I can't say which side enacted the rule - I wonder what is the story elsewhere, what with Rugby, etc? I suppose that both GAA codes play in identical seasons is insurmountable and now that our hurlers are on the up they mightn't be interested in being second fiddle?
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Post by Mickmack on May 4, 2022 6:11:25 GMT
Ronan McCarthy makes very valid points about the migration of Corks best footballers to the hurlers.
I believe Cork football people should be far more radical and for minor and under 20 grades they should select ONLY for football only clubs. There are dozens of football only clubs in Cork. Picking dual players at underage is no good in the long term as dual players will always opt for hurling as that is what sexy and attractive in Cork.
Kerry supporters still bemoan the loss of the odd great prospect to Aussie rules but never do Kerry football lose a player to the Kerry hurlers.
Imagine if Sean oShea, Paudie and David Clifford, Diarmaid oConnor and 4 more opted to play with the Kerry hurlers instead of the footballers.
Its not much good to Kerry either being a football county in a province where hurling is and always will be king.
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Post by Mickmack on May 4, 2022 6:17:03 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on May 4, 2022 6:24:27 GMT
Darragh Ó Sé: Surefooted Kerry ready to take the rocky road to Dublin
Dubs are back to being the team to beat, but Jack O’Connor’s side are stronger than ever about an hour ago
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Well, I see the Dubs are back anyway. Con O’Callaghan didn’t get any smaller during his break, nor did he get any weaker and he surely didn’t get any more willing to settle for the easy point when a goal might be on. So that’s it all sorted out then: Dublin back to being the team to beat, the rest of the country back to trying to come up with a way to do it.
In Kerry, we congratulate them on getting back to the top of the pile and we thank them for taking the spotlight onto themselves. When Kerry won the league at a canter, we were worried that they would walk through the summer with everyone saying it was Kerry’s All-Ireland to lose. This way, we can at least make a case for it being Dublin’s to lose. Whether anyone takes us seriously or not is up to them.
There is no doubt that Kerry are heading in the right direction. Even the cutest Kerryman would struggle to yerra his way out of something that obvious. It wasn’t just the fact that they won the league that was impressive. It was the way they did it.
At full-back, Foley looks like a player who has copped on to the fact that the rest of the team need their number three to be secure in himself When I look at Kerry this year, I see a team that looks a little bit more confident in itself. Players like Tadhg Morley, Jason Foley and Brian Ó Beaglaoich hadn’t been playing well. They have been in the team for a number of years but you would never have thought of them as being established. It was more that they were in the team because there wasn’t much of a queue lining up behind them to take the jersey off them.
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All three of them look different this year. At full-back, Foley looks like a player who has copped on to the fact that the rest of the team need their number three to be secure in himself. He catches balls now that he used to break away. That might sound like a small thing but it ripples through the team.
Foley always looked to me like somebody who nearly didn’t trust himself on the ball. I always got this sense that he wanted it away from his general area, first and foremost. That’s fine and it’s a good instinct for a defender to have, especially one who does his business close to his own goal. But it’s pass maths stuff too, at the back of it all.
Honours paper If you’re going to do the honours paper, you need to be taking control of the ball. It isn’t enough just to clear the danger. You need to be making sure that the next phase of possession is one where it’s obvious to everyone where you want to go next. The best players make their teammates better – that goes the same for a full-back distributing turnover ball as it does for a centre-forward trying to lay on a pass in front of goal.
Foley is more confident on the ball after a string of good performances. Ó Beaglaoich was always a good man to carry the ball up the pitch but he tended to get blocked or took the wrong option when he got into a scoring position. Now you can see him being more tuned in. He doesn’t shoot if it’s not on. He finds the best man in the best position. He backs himself when he has to.
That’s such an important facet of any attacking wing-back. You need someone who is going to pull the trigger because everyone watching can tell when a player doesn’t fancy it. A few years ago, there was a game when Killian Young came striding forward into space and the chance opened up for him to kick it over the bar.
But he waited and he waited and eventually turned back and the crowd jumped on him for it. It suited a left-sided kicker but he just didn’t have the confidence to take it on at the time. I don’t mean to single him out – he was a fine player for Kerry and won Young Footballer of the Year. But on that occasion, he didn’t back himself and it had an effect throughout the team. Ó Beaglaoich needs to keep driving on. No turning back.
Kerry have matured physically as well. The players from all those minor teams are hitting their mid-20s now and size isn’t the issue it was when they had just moved out of their teenage years. It wasn’t that they were lacking height, more that they were short of bulk. Size was catching Kerry. When Tom O’Sullivan was running into Ciarán Kilkenny, he was conceding a couple of stone in weight. But Kerry are bigger men now. That brings its own confidence.
Without fear Overall, Kerry look to be playing without fear. When you have guys like Foley, Morley and Ó Beaglaoich concentrating on the game in front of them and not looking to the sideline to see if there’s a curly finger coming, that radiates throughout the rest of the team. It means that the players who are actually established can get on with doing what they’re there for.
So when you can have the likes of David Clifford, Paudie Clifford and Seán O’Shea not having to worry about doing the heavy lifting of others, that frees them up to cause the damage they’re supposed to.
It also means that newer players are able to find their feet in a team that is a good environment to be starting in. Someone like Dan O’Donoghue has had a much easier ride in the introduction to his Kerry career than Foley or Morley had when it was their turn. It looks like there is less fear around the place, less nervousness about making mistakes.
Jack O’Connor has more or less gone with the same cast as Peter Keane had. In general, he has tweaked a couple of things tactically but I don’t really accept that Kerry are playing all that differently than they were under Keane. They’re getting a lot of bodies back, it’s true. But Kerry did a fair bit of that under Keane too. Winning writes its own story.
Ultimately, Kerry are defending better than they had been. I’m not sure I buy the idea that this is all down to Jack or to Paddy Tally or pretty much anyone outside the players themselves. They are more cohesive now. They’re stronger in the tackle. Most of them have been on the scene now for four or five years at least.
The game always comes down to the players. I used to laugh when I heard three different people being credited with putting Kieran Donaghy in at full-forward for Kerry, as if (a) it took a genius to see that a big attack-minded basketball player might be useful on the edge of the square and (b) the Stacks hadn’t already done it first. In the end, the man most responsible for making Kieran Donaghy a success was Kieran Donaghy.
Magic wand It’s the same with the improvement in Kerry’s defence through the league. There hasn’t been any magic wand or anything. They are harder to break down – or at least they have been so far. We’ll see what the coming weeks and months bring.
This is a slightly awkward period for Jack. Nothing has gone wrong yet. I would say when he looks at Tyrone and Mayo and Armagh all getting beaten early, he would have preferred it if at least one or two of them were still happily playing away and didn’t know yet that they were in trouble.
Jack can mould his team now to get ready for the Dubs, knowing that when they meet, it will be kitchen sink and all that they’re facing If they fix their problems and come storming through the qualifiers, an All-Ireland quarter-final against any of those three will be no picnic. There’s no good time to find out you’re not going well, but it’s obviously far better to know now than in Croke Park in the middle of a knock-out game.
That’s why, all joking aside, Kerry will be happy enough that Dublin annihilated Wexford last week. That’s something to really focus the mind. Kerry were always going to have to deal with Dublin somewhere along the way to win the All-Ireland – at least now there’s no chance of anyone being surprised by them or finding out when it’s way too late that they’re back on track. Jack can mould his team now to get ready for the Dubs, knowing that when they meet, it will be kitchen sink and all that they’re facing.
Kerry will play Cork this weekend with one eye on Dublin. That’s the long and short of it. Absolutely, they’ll be taking it one game at a time and everything will be done professionally and properly. But at the back of their minds will be prep for the big battle coming down the track against the Dubs.
Finding the right answers to the right questions: Who will mark Con? What will the plan be for Kilkenny? Will it be the tried-and-tested route of Jack Barry on Fenton? What can be done on the Dublin kick-out? All this stuff is far off in the future but you can be sure they’re starting the prep work now.
We’ll find out quick enough on Saturday if Cork are as hard done by as they seem to think they are by the whole Ed Sheeran thing. But based on their general form in the league and in last year’s championship, it will be a huge surprise if they’re up to the standard needed to beat Kerry on Saturday.
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Post by taggert on May 4, 2022 6:59:15 GMT
Thanks for posting the above Mick and the podcast also.
Darragh not giving a shred of credit to Jack and his sidekicks at this juncture - its all down to the players. That may be fair given nothing is won yet. Wonder if that tune will change later in the summer should Kerry come a cropper. Will it still be the players? Certainly, it would seem "Keys to the Kingdom" continues to linger in the ether for Darragh.
On the assumption that Cork will adopt an ultra defensive gameplan to stay within striking distance, to frustrate Kerry and to have the match in the balance as the clock winds down, I am really keen to see how Kerry approach this: - How patient are we in build up and creating chances - What is our shot selection and execution like - Do our wing backs run down blind alleys, get isolated and turned over - Do we draw Cork out by succeeding in kicking points from distance (half forward line/midfield) - What our turnover count against will be like
Cork are certainly no Tyrone. But I would like to see discernible improvement in all of the above areas of our game since our last championship game.
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Post by Mickmack on May 4, 2022 8:22:47 GMT
Darragh not giving a shred of credit to Jack and his sidekicks at this juncture - its all down to the players. That may be fair given nothing is won yet. Wonder if that tune will change later in the summer should Kerry come a cropper. Will it still be the players? Certainly, it would seem "Keys to the Kingdom" continues to linger in the ether for Darragh. Looks that way. Is he another one waiting in the long grass for JoC to fail. On the podcast, Paul Rouse asks all the questions you would want him to ask. Ronan McCarthy comes over very well.
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Post by kerryexile on May 4, 2022 11:05:21 GMT
Thanks for article Mick.
I think this is one of Darragh's better articles. Of course the team are on an upward curve. Look at the age profile and the hunger to realise their potential. Jack has always been reading the signals and positioned himself perfectly.
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Post by thehermit on May 4, 2022 12:05:39 GMT
Darragh's sidestepped taking anymore digs at Cork this week. To be honest I didn't understand the foray about last week's offering. I might have expressed myself a little politer but the jist would be the same. Cork should not be as bad as they are and have been for several years and that's on Cork football as a whole, the CB, the coaching teams, the players themselves. As ever when it comes to Cork v Kerry I begin to fret once the match gets ever closer. Too much history here to be publicly shouting about 20 point plus hammerings etc. But in saying all that if we can't beat a Cork team that has shown itself to be as poor as they ever have been this past 18 months than we are not All Ireland contenders and won't be for a while yet. I know why people are nervous, until we get over the line they'll always be questions about this team. But at some stage you have got to trust the form and what you've been seeing over the spring. We won the League well, the last few weeks have shown up Mayo to not be very good - hence the argument they weren't trying and were happy to be mauled by us in the final has been put to bed in my estimation anyway. People on here were saying the Tyrone result proved we still have big issues - again lets take last Sunday into consideration now. Tyrone won in Killarney because they needed to and we had nothing to play for. They're now at a serious cross-roads and judging by the Derry game will be lucky to survive another Championship outing. This is a very very good Kerry team that is rightly the front-runner for the All Ireland and they're going down to face a team that barely survived D2 and has been walloped by Kerry the last two times there paths crossed. Respect Cork for what that jersey represents but that respect means this Kerry side should be going out to show no quarter. Predictions: a tight, tense(ish) opening 20 and then Kerry making some daylight by half time and winning well in the second half. Now where's that bloody email with my ticket
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Post by veteran on May 4, 2022 12:10:25 GMT
Is there any feedback what the demand is like for tickets. I have spoken to several people over the past few days who are unable to get tickets and needless to say they are raging. Has anybody else had experiences like this? There are always surplus tickets available for this match. So much for the reassurances from the Cork County Board.
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Post by thehermit on May 4, 2022 12:27:55 GMT
Is there any feedback what the demand is like for tickets. I have spoken to several people over the past few days who are unable to get tickets and needless to say they are raging. Has anybody else had experiences like this? There are always surplus tickets available for this match. So much for the reassurances from the Cork County Board. A friend of mine is over a club and was telling me he had a good few spare as the interest wasn't there from members.
Now that's only one club, I was promised one from another source last Friday but no sign of it yet!
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Post by horsebox77 on May 4, 2022 12:40:23 GMT
Demand is surprisingly high enough by all accounts, considering the time, venue and day of the event as opposed to the opposition.
Usually Kerry/Cork would draw a crowd, I genuinely think the the venue has had an effect, but I think more the day.. Saturday for me has more a feel of league fixture, as opposed to 3pm on a Summer Sunday and Killarney or PúC rocking with an edge to it.
Still when the ball is tossed in all could change, any confirmation of a ref for the occasion?
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Post by kerryboyo on May 4, 2022 13:53:21 GMT
We should win this game by a good score it’ll be like last year I say cork will come out all guns firing for the first 25 minutes and kerry will react strong like last year I’d agree with most posters on this the team that should take to the field should be the league final team with SOS instead of SOB
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Post by horsebox77 on May 4, 2022 14:04:40 GMT
We should win this game by a good score it’ll be like last year I say cork will come out all guns firing for the first 25 minutes and kerry will react strong like last year I’d agree with most posters on this the team that should take to the field should be the league final team with SOS instead of SOB On all my years, I've never seen such unison on a starting XV.
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Post by thehermit on May 4, 2022 14:13:47 GMT
Well consistency in that regard is one indication we are moving in the right path.
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