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Post by Mickmack on Dec 15, 2021 13:57:39 GMT
Just as well John oKeeffe's worth was not judged on how well he played for Stacks as he hardly ever stood out in club games.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Dec 15, 2021 14:50:22 GMT
I think when you handle as much ball as savage , you will have a few more possessions coughed up, but I don’t believe Jordan marked savage, it was o shea, I think you missed the amount of scores he sat up, directly, I think we’ll worth another look, at the risk of repeating myself, we are looking at players for the kerry squad , the starting 11 or 12 is fairly solid. I think the 9 new will freshen up, but they will have lots to do to catch up with the s&c of today’s game, with obvious exception, Stefan Mike how big is the gap between club and county S&C wise? And can you see any of the new lads doing a Paud Clifford? Ps I hope Jack announces a full league squad. I don’t think the gap between some club players and county players is much. A lot of the higher quality club players do loads of gym work and have previously been involved with Kerry underage teams so have been exposed to that S&C too. Hopefully he does because no one seems to know who from those who weren’t making match day squads but were on the Peter Keane’s extended panel are still involved. I’m thinking of the likes of Ronan Buckley, Paul O’Shea, Eddie Horan, Brian Leonard, David Shaw etc.
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Post by kyoverseas on Dec 15, 2021 15:18:55 GMT
There is a lot of talk out there that suggests that we need all these changes to backs and midfield. If I can recall, the backs did a pretty decent job against Tyrone in the final. What happened (In my opinion), is that our wing backs and forwards turned over ball by running into the tackle on multiple occasions, the forwards missed several goal opportunities and their decision making on the ball went astray on the day. Considering all that went wrong, we still nearly managed to nick it and if we had won, we would probably say it was one of the poorest performances from a Kerry team to win an All Ireland.
Stefan from Na Gael will be a big addition, Shane Murphy if he gets a good run of games could be a big player for the team. I dont think there is a need for a huge overhaul of players and freshening up the competition with some new faces is a good thing. Some of the lads brought in have been in the panel before at a younger age, but the maturity of their game at their clubs will have brought them on and better prepare them now for Inter County football.
Kerry Will get over the line this year
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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 15, 2021 15:19:21 GMT
Predominantly candidates who have performed this year, 6 new + 3 recalls - so PK hadn't ignored anyone else that JackO thinks is good enough.
Yerra, apart from stats, is there any common characteristic across the 9? Tyrone showed us the type of player we need. I believed we had the best all time panel though Vet questioned me while PK didn't prove me right - maybe JOC will.
There will be some interesting probables vs possibles games in Currans.
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 15, 2021 19:28:04 GMT
There is a lot of talk out there that suggests that we need all these changes to backs and midfield. If I can recall, the backs did a pretty decent job against Tyrone in the final. What happened (In my opinion), is that our wing backs and forwards turned over ball by running into the tackle on multiple occasions, the forwards missed several goal opportunities and their decision making on the ball went astray on the day. Considering all that went wrong, we still nearly managed to nick it and if we had won, we would probably say it was one of the poorest performances from a Kerry team to win an All Ireland. Stefan from Na Gael will be a big addition, Shane Murphy if he gets a good run of games could be a big player for the team. I dont think there is a need for a huge overhaul of players and freshening up the competition with some new faces is a good thing. Some of the lads brought in have been in the panel before at a younger age, but the maturity of their game at their clubs will have brought them on and better prepare them now for Inter County football. Kerry Will get over the line this year You are on the money there. I had a bit of time on my hands last weekend so i created the following video which shows; How Kerry players got their hand on the ball v Tyrone What happened to each possession.
Here are my obversations from doing the video; The first think to note is that video is 55 minutes long. There is little time wastage in it. That indicates that Kerry had possession of the ball in play a hell of a lot. I was amazed at how many times Tyrone kicked 50;50 balls into their forwards. There must be 10 occasions when Kerry got possession by winning those jousts for those 50;50 balls kicked it. Maybe Tyrone reckoned that losing possession so far from their own goal with their defense in place was a low risk Kerry put very little on the scoreboard as a result of the getting possession from Shane's kickout. The routine was repeated time and again - take it forward and be turned over. Kerry got far more joy from Morgans kickouts especially early in the second half. That may be due to Tyrone being down a man though to the black card. Apart from DC, Kerry had no one else to kick long range points whereas Tyrone had a few Tyrone were better able to hold possession when attacking and kick points against a massed defense. Tyrones subs were far more potent. McShane and Canavan especially Coldrick should have awarded a few scorable frees to Kerry but maybe thats my green and gold specs- he didnt cost us the match.
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Post by givehimaball on Dec 15, 2021 19:55:17 GMT
The draw for the Sigerson Cup was made yesterday which will be another pull on some of the Kerry players. Games will probably be midweek but there could be some lads under a fair bit of pressure depending on how far their team goes in the Sigerson and the club All-Ireland.
Round 1 – (Week 10 Jan on)
A. IT Carlow v Letterkenny IT B. IT Sligo v UL C. TU Dublin v St Mary’s Belfast D. Maynooth University v DCU E. Queens University bye F. NUI Galway v University Ulster G. MTU Cork v UCC H. MTU Kerry v UCD Round 2 – (Week 17 Jan on)
Winners A v Winners B Winners C v Winners D Winners E v Winners F Winners G v Winners H Losers A v Losers B Losers C v Losers D Losers E v Losers F Losers G v Losers H Round 3 – (Week 24 Jan on)
Quarter-finals – (Week 31 Jan on)
Semi-finals – (Week 7 Feb on)
Final – (16/17 Feb)
The Munster Club finals are all scheduled for the weekend of the 15/16 January with the All-Ireland Club Semi-finals fixed for the 29/30 January and the All-Final for the Intermediate and Junior is the weekend of the 5th/6th of February and the Final for senior is the 12th/13th of February.
The dates for the McGrath Cup haven't been confirmed yet but if the games are to be held on weekends it looks very much like the following will be the schedule.
Weekend of the 1st/2nd January - Kerry v Limerick Weekend of the 8th/9th January - Limerick v Tipperary Weekend of the 15th/16th January - Tipperary v Kerry Weekend of the 22nd/23rd January Final
League is due to start weekend of the 29th/30th January with round 2 on the weekend of the 5th/6th of January and round on the weekend of the 12th/13th of January.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Dec 15, 2021 20:06:40 GMT
The McGrath Cup is starting the 5th of January home to Limerick. Away to Tipperary a week later. There’s going to be a lot of Kerry panellists involved in the Sigerson.
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 15, 2021 20:37:17 GMT
kerryman Damian Stack December 10 2021 06:00 AM He was where he’s been for the bulk of this championship. Sitting right at the top row of seats, smack bang in the centre of the stand, just under the press box. The best seat in the house. The best place, certainly, to scope out the county’s talent. To throw a gimlet eye over those known to him, and maybe even more importantly those not. You see, Jack O’Connor wasn’t in the dignitaries box in Austin Stack Park on Sunday to hold court, though plenty surely would have wanting to pay their respects to the new boss – including GAA president Larry McCarthy fresh from the official opening at Currans the day before. No – and make no mistake – the Dromid man was there on business. For the semi-finals he had his new coach / selector Paddy Tally alongside him. On other occasions we spotted him with Micheál Quirke and Diarmuid Murphy, his chief lieutenants. If the race for the Bishop Moynihan Cup is the shop window for potential inter-county talent, then Jack and co were on the look out for bargains. Guys who’ve somehow slipped through the net of previous management teams – underage and senior. Guys who been on panels before and dropped off. Guys who, like mushrooms, have come up overnight. Those unheralded late bloomers of the sort that could help finally get the Kingdom get over that hump and claim a first Sam Maguire in the best part of a decade. It’s understood that O'Connor has shaken up the Kerry panel since taking on the role – it’s been suggested as many as nine players have left the squad. No surprise there and no controversy either. Every manager does it. Every manager should do it. There’s a need to keep players on their toes. There’s a need for a manager to manager to get his type of players on-board, to put his stamp on the thing. A need to correct what he perceives to have been as flaws in his predecessor’s game plan and gaps in the squad. From O’Connor’s comments in his famous Irish Examiner podcast appearance, it seems quite clear that he wants to toughen the Kingdom up, particularly at the back… what luck then that possibly the most impressive defensive outfit we’ve seen in the championship in a number of years went on to claim the title. That doesn’t, by the way, mean that Stacks were some sort of dour, negative side – they absolutely were not that – but it is the case that Wayne Quillinan organised his defence magnificently well, and that he had some very good individual defenders at his disposal. Most notably the Stacks captain Dylan Casey. We’d be very much surprised if the brilliant young full-back isn’t involved centrally with the Kingdom next season. He’s got it all to be a real asset to the new manager. Power, speed, tenacity and a real grá for the hard-graft of defending. It’s not like he can’t play ball – he played plenty this year – but it's that back-to-basics grittiness he brings that’s sure to appeal most to O’Connor and Tally. Casey's colleague on the full-back line Jack O’Shea is another who probably ought to be given a call up. He’s not put a foot wrong all championship and, while Jack Savage had a fine final (another guy who probably is deserving of a reappraisal), O’Shea did himself little harm again on Sunday. What of the Rock’s rock? The man between the sticks? Wayne Guthrie? Is there a chance Jack O’Connor might have liked the cut of his jib throughout the championship and give him a call up? There very much is we’d imagine. Maybe his retention rate on primary possession isn’t precisely where it needs to be – 58% on Sunday, having knocked a couple out over the sideline – but it’s very clear that he was given enormous responsibility by Quillinan and his management team to set the tone in that Rockie rear-guard, which might be just what Kerry needs. Joe O’Connor is another Austin Stacks man who we can see having a role to play for the Kingdom in the next year or two. He was man-of-the-match on Sunday and would be a proper addition to Kerry in the middle third of the pitch. To be fair to the outgoing management team, O’Connor was already on board, but hadn’t yet quite broken through. Sooner rather than later that’s going to happen. The only real issue we could see with these Stacks players is that their involvement in Munster and (potentially) All Ireland club action might limit their chances to make a mark early in the season in the McGrath Cup and early rounds of the league. The same applies, we suppose, to some of the St Brendans players who O’Connor could tap for elevation like Andrew Barry – probably in the form of his life – and Stefan Okunbor who are set for Munster action with Na Gaeil after their famous intermediate triumph last weekend. Then again in Okunbor’s case some extra competitive football before being gradually reintroduced to the Kerry set-up might be no bad thing. Who else might have caught Jack’s eye across the championship? Another keeper, perhaps? It still feels to us like Shane Murphy is an untapped resource for Kerry at senior level. Is there a better distributor of the ball at kick-out time in the county? Unquestionably not, and it’s not like he lets the side down with other aspects of his game. You can imagine some of the darts he hit Brian Looney with at times against Strand Road in the semi-final finding a real sweet spot in Croker. Plenty others impressed and plenty more we’ve probably forgotten about by now. Cormac Coffey after a series of very good performances must be worthy of a second look at senior level, for instance. On top of that there’s probably a handful of players that O’Connor, Tally, Murphy and Quirke spotted with potential that might not be as obvious to the untrained eye. Unpolished gems ready to be remade anew in the image of what O'Connor needs from his players. There’s probably a bit of regency bias at play too from our point of view. We saw those Stacks players impressing last weekend so naturally they’re the first names we think of. O’Connor, you can be sure, is taking a more global perspective. While some of the games in the championship were a little lacklustre, it really did pick up steam as it went along. Sunday’s game was better than it had any right to be considering Strand Road’s early and significant losses. It and all the games preceding it will have given Jack O’Connor real food for thought. It’s not quite that Santa has come early for the Kerry boss, but at the same time he certainly won’t be left with a lump of coal come Christmas morning. Apart from entertaining and fascinating us for the last six or seven weeks, this championship served its purpose from Jack’s point of view very well indeed.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Dec 15, 2021 21:21:29 GMT
Thanks for that Mick. So 9 dropped apparently to make to way for the 9 coming in. Be very interesting to know who Jack has discarded from Peter’s reign.
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Post by horsebox77 on Dec 15, 2021 21:49:17 GMT
Well Tommy Walsh and by all accounts Jack Sherwood are two that have retired, at a guess if Murphy is in then maybe Fitzgibbon is out, on form and lack of impressions from the previous regime maybe Kevin Sullivan,, Pa Kilkenny, Brian Leonard, Roan Buckley, Liam Kearney also opted out last year and James O’Donoghue
Who else failed to make an impression and hasn’t pushed on in local championship?
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Dec 15, 2021 22:19:23 GMT
Well Tommy Walsh and by all accounts Jack Sherwood are two that have retired, at a guess if Murphy is in then maybe Fitzgibbon is out, on form and lack of impressions from the previous regime maybe Kevin Sullivan,, Pa Kilkenny, Brian Leonard, Roan Buckley, Liam Kearney also opted out last year and James O’Donoghue Who else failed to make an impression and hasn’t pushed on in local championship? Walsh and Sherwood are probably included in that figure alright. Liam Kearney and James O’Donoghue were gone from the panel before the end of Peter Keane’s time so they wouldn’t be. Pa Kilkenny is surely one anyway as an unestablished older player. Kevin O’Sullivan likely too I agree. Brian Leonard has only had one season on the panel so I think dropping him would be very harsh. I’d find it hard to see Ronan Buckley being dropped too as our options at wing forward aren’t too plentiful. I was told that Eddie Horan isn’t involved which I was shocked by. I thought he’d really push on this year and see a lot of game time especially as Jack seemed to really rate him at u20.
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Post by horsebox77 on Dec 15, 2021 22:50:17 GMT
Well Tommy Walsh and by all accounts Jack Sherwood are two that have retired, at a guess if Murphy is in then maybe Fitzgibbon is out, on form and lack of impressions from the previous regime maybe Kevin Sullivan,, Pa Kilkenny, Brian Leonard, Roan Buckley, Liam Kearney also opted out last year and James O’Donoghue Who else failed to make an impression and hasn’t pushed on in local championship? Walsh and Sherwood are probably included in that figure alright. Liam Kearney and James O’Donoghue were gone from the panel before the end of Peter Keane’s time so they wouldn’t be. Pa Kilkenny is surely one anyway as an unestablished older player. Kevin O’Sullivan likely too I agree. Brian Leonard has only had one season on the panel so I think dropping him would be very harsh. I’d find it hard to see Ronan Buckley being dropped too as our options at wing forward aren’t too plentiful. I was told that Eddie Horan isn’t involved which I was shocked by. I thought he’d really push on this year and see a lot of game time especially as Jack seemed to really rate him at u20. One of the biggest surprised for me is Barry O'Mahony, unless he's thrown in his lot and committed to the hurlers.. which is a strong possibility
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Dec 15, 2021 23:01:46 GMT
Walsh and Sherwood are probably included in that figure alright. Liam Kearney and James O’Donoghue were gone from the panel before the end of Peter Keane’s time so they wouldn’t be. Pa Kilkenny is surely one anyway as an unestablished older player. Kevin O’Sullivan likely too I agree. Brian Leonard has only had one season on the panel so I think dropping him would be very harsh. I’d find it hard to see Ronan Buckley being dropped too as our options at wing forward aren’t too plentiful. I was told that Eddie Horan isn’t involved which I was shocked by. I thought he’d really push on this year and see a lot of game time especially as Jack seemed to really rate him at u20. One of the biggest surprised for me is Barry O'Mahony, unless he's thrown in his lot and committed to the hurlers.. which is a strong possibility I was disappointed not to see him in too. Surely if Jack had come calling he’d have gone for it over the hurlers. There’s a number of players I think have been overlooked. We’re talking about an initial extended panel, anyone who might be capable of having an impact on the team should be in.
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Post by mossie on Dec 15, 2021 23:37:52 GMT
9 new faces in according to the Kerryman The 9 new players are: Stefan Okunbor - Na Gaeil Andrew Barry - Na Gaeil Jack Savage - Kerins O'Rahillys Dylan Casey - Austin Stacks Greg Horan - Austin Stacks Jack O'Shea - Austin Stacks Shane Murphy - Dr.Crokes Dan O'Donoghue - Spa Dara Roche - Glenflesk Jack Sherwood is said to have retired also, mustn't have gotten a recall and decided to call it. Played a big part in Kerry beating Tyrone in 2019 and helping us reach the final. Enjoy retirement Jack stretching things a bit to call some of these players "new" - Jack Savage, Greg Horan, Shane Murphy all around on senior panels previously, just been a bit pedantic here
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Post by mossie on Dec 15, 2021 23:39:22 GMT
One of the biggest surprised for me is Barry O'Mahony, unless he's thrown in his lot and committed to the hurlers.. which is a strong possibility I was disappointed not to see him in too. Surely if Jack had come calling he’d have gone for it over the hurlers. There’s a number of players I think have been overlooked. We’re talking about an initial extended panel, anyone who might be capable of having an impact on the team should be in. Is there limits on panels these days? maybe Jack cant name as many as in times past?
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Post by kerryeastcoastusa on Dec 15, 2021 23:48:01 GMT
Of all the new additions I think Stefan and Dylan Casey really are the two which could make a real push for the first 15. I think Jack Savage is a really good footballer but doesn’t really have a position at intercounty level … a real playmaker at club level but unfortunately does have the gears for intercounty. Maybe Dan Donoghue at center back but my gut feeling is that the step up would be too much. Surprised Sean O’Brien Beaufort wasn’t included. I think he could really develop into an option as the league progressed.
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 16, 2021 7:59:41 GMT
Of all the new additions I think Stefan and Dylan Casey really are the two which could make a real push for the first 15. I think Jack Savage is a really good footballer but doesn’t really have a position at intercounty level … a real playmaker at club level but unfortunately does have the gears for intercounty. Maybe Dan Donoghue at center back but my gut feeling is that the step up would be too much. Surprised Sean O’Brien Beaufort wasn’t included. I think he could really develop into an option as the league progressed. Jack can kick the feckin thing over the bar from 40 or 45 yards.... now isnt that a novel idea. We need a few that can do that. In the tyrone game only DC did that in normal time. Paul Murphy kicked one from the wing in extra time. Jack will be wound up mercilessly by opponents in order to distract him. He will have to deal with that if he is serious about playing for Kerry.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Dec 16, 2021 8:19:59 GMT
The 9 new players are: Stefan Okunbor - Na Gaeil Andrew Barry - Na Gaeil Jack Savage - Kerins O'Rahillys Dylan Casey - Austin Stacks Greg Horan - Austin Stacks Jack O'Shea - Austin Stacks Shane Murphy - Dr.Crokes Dan O'Donoghue - Spa Dara Roche - Glenflesk Jack Sherwood is said to have retired also, mustn't have gotten a recall and decided to call it. Played a big part in Kerry beating Tyrone in 2019 and helping us reach the final. Enjoy retirement Jack stretching things a bit to call some of these players "new" - Jack Savage, Greg Horan, Shane Murphy all around on senior panels previously, just been a bit pedantic here Andrew Barry is the same too.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Dec 16, 2021 8:22:46 GMT
Of all the new additions I think Stefan and Dylan Casey really are the two which could make a real push for the first 15. I think Jack Savage is a really good footballer but doesn’t really have a position at intercounty level … a real playmaker at club level but unfortunately does have the gears for intercounty. Maybe Dan Donoghue at center back but my gut feeling is that the step up would be too much. Surprised Sean O’Brien Beaufort wasn’t included. I think he could really develop into an option as the league progressed. Agree on Stefan and Dylan Casey but I think Dan O’Donoghue will be capable of the step up. Shane Murphy as well I think will claim the number one jersey. Sean O’Brien is still u20 so I think it’s best to leave him concentrate on that. If Jack Savage is to play a role I think it will be an impact role from the bench.
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Post by hurlingman on Dec 16, 2021 8:59:14 GMT
One of the biggest surprised for me is Barry O'Mahony, unless he's thrown in his lot and committed to the hurlers.. which is a strong possibility I was disappointed not to see him in too. Surely if Jack had come calling he’d have gone for it over the hurlers. There’s a number of players I think have been overlooked. We’re talking about an initial extended panel, anyone who might be capable of having an impact on the team should be in. Why do you think he's pick football over hurling? Maybe he wants to play hurling.
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Post by hurlingman on Dec 16, 2021 9:00:21 GMT
The 9 new players are: Stefan Okunbor - Na Gaeil Andrew Barry - Na Gaeil Jack Savage - Kerins O'Rahillys Dylan Casey - Austin Stacks Greg Horan - Austin Stacks Jack O'Shea - Austin Stacks Shane Murphy - Dr.Crokes Dan O'Donoghue - Spa Dara Roche - Glenflesk Jack Sherwood is said to have retired also, mustn't have gotten a recall and decided to call it. Played a big part in Kerry beating Tyrone in 2019 and helping us reach the final. Enjoy retirement Jack stretching things a bit to call some of these players "new" - Jack Savage, Greg Horan, Shane Murphy all around on senior panels previously, just been a bit pedantic here I don;t recalll Greg Horan ever being with the Kerry senior team. I know he was a very good underage player but then had a few injuries.
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Post by mike70 on Dec 16, 2021 9:16:38 GMT
stretching things a bit to call some of these players "new" - Jack Savage, Greg Horan, Shane Murphy all around on senior panels previously, just been a bit pedantic here I don;t recalll Greg Horan ever being with the Kerry senior team. I know he was a very good underage player but then had a few injuries. he was 100% part of extended panel during EF time.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Dec 16, 2021 9:38:30 GMT
Of all the new additions I think Stefan and Dylan Casey really are the two which could make a real push for the first 15. I think Jack Savage is a really good footballer but doesn’t really have a position at intercounty level … a real playmaker at club level but unfortunately does have the gears for intercounty. Maybe Dan Donoghue at center back but my gut feeling is that the step up would be too much. Surprised Sean O’Brien Beaufort wasn’t included. I think he could really develop into an option as the league progressed. Agree on Stefan and Dylan Casey but I think Dan O’Donoghue will be capable of the step up. Shane Murphy as well I think will claim the number one jersey. Sean O’Brien is still u20 so I think it’s best to leave him concentrate on that. If Jack Savage is to play a role I think it will be an impact role from the bench. Why do you think Shane Murphy will take the number 1 spot ? He had a run previously and did reasonable but no better than Shane Ryan who has not let Kerry down in big games.
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Post by veteran on Dec 16, 2021 9:40:48 GMT
It is difficult to know if Barry O’Mahony is good enough for intercounty level. He was excellent against Ballydonoghue . Poor, by his standards , against Ballyduff. Talking to some St. Senans lads at these matches nobody was screaming for his inclusion, also querying his interest/commitment.
Therefore possibly two reasons for non inclusion: Jack not convinced and lack of commitment. One hopes that he would at least commit to the hurlers. I suspect he will.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 16, 2021 15:52:45 GMT
Can Stefan rediscover his Johnno style is the big question.
JOC may not push laddos out - let 'em sort it out among themselves, he'll have training and the McGrath, and then the League. I suppose everyone is starting from scratch now, making up the numbers until fellas start to show their class and form at this level. Competition will be serious, O Beaglaoich certainly gave the impression he was taking it a serious, we don't want injuries or cards.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Dec 16, 2021 16:25:14 GMT
I was disappointed not to see him in too. Surely if Jack had come calling he’d have gone for it over the hurlers. There’s a number of players I think have been overlooked. We’re talking about an initial extended panel, anyone who might be capable of having an impact on the team should be in. Why do you think he's pick football over hurling? Maybe he wants to play hurling. Well if anyone had the chance to play a big part in trying to win Sam I’m sure they’d choose it over playing in the McDonagh Cup. No disrespect to the hurling but if you get the chance to play for the Kerry footballers, you take it.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Dec 16, 2021 16:26:20 GMT
Agree on Stefan and Dylan Casey but I think Dan O’Donoghue will be capable of the step up. Shane Murphy as well I think will claim the number one jersey. Sean O’Brien is still u20 so I think it’s best to leave him concentrate on that. If Jack Savage is to play a role I think it will be an impact role from the bench. Why do you think Shane Murphy will take the number 1 spot ? He had a run previously and did reasonable but no better than Shane Ryan who has not let Kerry down in big games. Probably should have said he has a good chance. Ryan is decent but I think Murphy’s kick outs are at a higher level.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Dec 16, 2021 17:14:20 GMT
Murphy looks very confident and able with his kickouts but in 18 with Kerry he was good but nothing special. No more than outfield players there is a difference between club and county and can he do it in front of a packed stadium in the heat of the championship. I do think he has alot of class but Shane Ryan has nt been too bad at all and would be unlucky to lose his spot. Shane Ryan is a big lad and I don't think he has done much wrong. I like to see the restarts happening a bit quicker though. If Murphy had stuck around he'd have played the league last year and who knows may have kept his place.
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Post by playitfair on Dec 16, 2021 19:13:32 GMT
always felt that Murphy was unfairly treated after the Galway game in 2018. Sitting that day in the lower Cusack, I didn't see much movement in front of him. Anyway nothing like good competition for a place.
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Post by horsebox77 on Dec 16, 2021 19:33:31 GMT
Look competition for places is imperative to keep players fresh and on their toes.
But I don't get all the 'Murphy' love in, any game Ryan has played I couldn't fault. I don't blame him for Cork in 2020 or Dublin in 19, or the three goals leaked against Tyrone. All these came from turnovers or stupid errors by our defence.
Admittedly Murphy has a good kick out but this is more testament to the football brains of the lads outside, Buckley, Shea, Looney and Casey. When movement is minimal then the ball often goes over the sideline.
I think he has had a chance, he bawked and walked but for me Ryan is the man in pole position.
Maybe a more solidified defence and mobile Mid field fairing is the priority
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