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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 30, 2019 21:06:40 GMT
Dubs will canter to the five in a row, its set in stone. Dublin John will have Dublin Joe lined up. Home comforts, dressing room, Hill end, march on the stand side, be the aggressors in the handshake..............yawnnnnnn. You had a few weeks of optimism there. I hope your reinvigorated pessimism can be proven unfounded. I really hope.
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Post by exiled on Jul 30, 2019 21:12:20 GMT
If they bate the Dubs, can we let poor Paddy P live on in peace and let em have their All Ireland. There's another left besides PP.. But I don't mind who wins as long as the 5 is stopped.
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 30, 2019 21:22:17 GMT
Lol, you'll win nothing with kids. Regardless, the footballing Gods would never conspire to deny the Dubs the five in a row.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 30, 2019 21:44:09 GMT
Lol, you'll win nothing with kids. Regardless, the footballing Gods would never conspire to deny the Dubs the five in a row. Time will tell. But, in my opinion, this September will decide if this Dublin team is the greatest of all time... or we can still have the Golden Years team on that pedestal.
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Post by southward on Jul 30, 2019 21:46:55 GMT
Dubs will canter to the five in a row, its set in stone. Dublin John will have Dublin Joe lined up. Home comforts, dressing room, Hill end, march on the stand side, be the aggressors in the handshake..............yawnnnnnn. Ah now, seriously?
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Post by john4 on Jul 30, 2019 22:05:19 GMT
It has always been the ambition of every single Kerry team to win the all-ireland in a given year, any year it hasn't happened has not been a successful year. That's our benchmark.
Of the 37 all-irelands we've won I can't think of 1 where the motivation for success has been to deny another county of winning it. We're in this for ourselves only.
I hope this 5 in a row stuff is a million miles away from the minds of the whole Kerry setup. If, or/and it comes down to it, it'll be every bit about us as them.
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Post by keane on Jul 31, 2019 15:17:20 GMT
If we are level going down the stretch with Dublin it's not Dublin i'd be worried about but the officials as 11 and 16 proved when we were truly screwed over. Dublin playing in their home stadium and in front of such massive vocal support have proven very difficult to get calls against in tight matches especially during this decade. Officials seems to be in awe of them and we've seen referees bend the knee more than once to Dublin during this decade. The last time we played Dublin in Championship back in 2016 we were level going down that stretch despite poor game management from our sideline but moreover poor refereeing undid us more than the Dublin bench i would suggest (the clear 45 that was never given and a brutal frontal challenge on Peter Crowley deep into injury time are burnt into my memory). Ach if I started thinking too much about that I'd only annoy myself!
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 31, 2019 15:39:42 GMT
If we are level going down the stretch with Dublin it's not Dublin i'd be worried about but the officials as 11 and 16 proved when we were truly screwed over. Dublin playing in their home stadium and in front of such massive vocal support have proven very difficult to get calls against in tight matches especially during this decade. Officials seems to be in awe of them and we've seen referees bend the knee more than once to Dublin during this decade. The last time we played Dublin in Championship back in 2016 we were level going down that stretch despite poor game management from our sideline but moreover poor refereeing undid us more than the Dublin bench i would suggest (the clear 45 that was never given and a brutal frontal challenge on Peter Crowley deep into injury time are burnt into my memory). Ach if I started thinking too much about that I'd only annoy myself! there is a big debate now apparently about mindfullness...saying essestially that its a load of BS and that "acceptance" is the way to go for inner peace. So should we all go down the "acceptance" route and treat such "last 10 minute" decisions to Dublin as normal and get on with it?
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Post by fitz on Jul 31, 2019 19:37:54 GMT
Players have no choice, a salty pill for the rest of us
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 31, 2019 22:09:34 GMT
Dubs will canter to the five in a row, its set in stone. Dublin John will have Dublin Joe lined up. Home comforts, dressing room, Hill end, march on the stand side, be the aggressors in the handshake..............yawnnnnnn. Ah now, seriously? Deadly serious, all the home comforts going Dublin's way all the time....................
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Post by wayupnorth on Jul 31, 2019 23:32:16 GMT
We won't be complacent or disrespectful of Meath but the likelihood is that we will win and win well. We have come through two tough challenges and are in a much better place than we were the same time last year. If Donegal beat Mayo, it won't be by much and we'll top the group on points difference. If Mayo win we will top the group anyway. Dublin will not lose to Tyrone and even a draw will see them top their group but they won't draw either. That sets us up for a semi against Tyrone the following Sunday. So we're just two matches away from an All Ireland Final.
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Post by colinsworth1 on Jul 31, 2019 23:57:01 GMT
We won't be complacent or disrespectful of Meath but the likelihood is that we will win and win well. We have come through two tough challenges and are in a much better place than we were the same time last year. If Donegal beat Mayo, it won't be by much and we'll top the group on points difference. If Mayo win we will top the group anyway. Dublin will not lose to Tyrone and even a draw will see them top their group but they won't draw either. That sets us up for a semi against Tyrone the following Sunday. So we're just two matches away from an All Ireland Final. Correct we are approx 150 minutes of football away from all Ireland final if all goes well . It’s upon us the gloves have to come off now Let not talk about project players or players that will be good in two to five years time . Or players that were good but just need to find form 150 min away from the glory of getting a shot at the biggest prize
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Post by Ballyfireside on Aug 1, 2019 2:07:50 GMT
Ballythefireside's Bismarck - Donegal to take Mayo, then Rochford opens up Dublin but unlike Mayo, Dgal scent blood and close it out for him, he was never far away and what with the Dubs losing 3 League games and no curse crack with Dgal, this is a real possibility. Having taken the Royals, we then master Tyrone, and you know the rest, yerra yez know where it is heading and I'll say no more or I know (or won't as the case may be) where I'll be heading, head first! Could history repeat?
What a prospect, a green 'n' gold AI final. There is bound to be at least one upset and now I don't know whether it is my auld head or my heart, but I have a sneaky feeling here, 'tiz all too straight forward to play out as everyone thinks and my gut tells me Mayo are less likely to take Dgal than Dgal are to topple the Dubs, I'm also banking on us taking Tyrone, just don't think they have it this year, will struggle once the pace intensifies like last year?
BTW Bismarck was a ship that sunk, i.e. an upset, I suppose if a Tommy predicted an upset 'twould be called Tommy's Titanic ... Lucy's Lusitania, etc! Then again we hear of Titanic struggles, ah that auld 5 in a row is some Titanic struggle, but who will sink her, she might sink herself, maybe them Healy-Raes are right about global warming being a nonsense and there are still a few icebergs about, and nowhere more would they like them to be than as close as possible to that photo op laddo Shane Ross, maybe all this speed limit crack will will grind the Dubs to a halt, any speed is dangerous he tells us, and no more high jumping and fielding allowed, and no hard shoulders so Connolly must be exiled again smuggling his 'torn between two lovers' mate Keegan in his holdall!
Healy-Raes will invite Ross to Kilgarvan the night Sam visits 'for the mother and father of all homecomings', relegating Delaneys state visit to No 2, and yes, we will be happy snapping and selfying to bate the band!
Joke of the day and talking of Titanic struggles, and history repeating - A cruise ship of solicitors sank this morning, the bad news is that there was one survivor!
Ah another wan - I know of a Christening that was postponed until after the AI final -the wee girl would be Samantha, alas they couldn't tar her with that brush, ah jazus can you imagine a Kerryman chatting her up in Coppers a few years down the road?
Ah another wan - I was wondering if Magees the Donegal outfitters had a mobile tailor on the field for our encounter in Croker - what had me thinking this was that Clifford started with a round neck shirt but came back with a V neck!
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Post by onlykerry on Aug 1, 2019 8:58:56 GMT
Injuries are playing a big part in this years championship - both Donegal and Mayo are suffering in this regard and this makes it difficult to fully evaluate their potential. If both were at full strength it would be very interesting indeed. The condensed nature of the business end of the championship means injuries (and therefore squad strength) are key to success ultimately.
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Post by dc84 on Aug 1, 2019 9:20:45 GMT
We won't be complacent or disrespectful of Meath but the likelihood is that we will win and win well. We have come through two tough challenges and are in a much better place than we were the same time last year. If Donegal beat Mayo, it won't be by much and we'll top the group on points difference. If Mayo win we will top the group anyway. Dublin will not lose to Tyrone and even a draw will see them top their group but they won't draw either. That sets us up for a semi against Tyrone the following Sunday. So we're just two matches away from an All Ireland Final. I'd go further and say we have had 4 tough enough games to date we should be beating Meath handy enough. We were disappointed in only wining by 6 in Ennis and as the game between Meath and clare showed there is nothing between those two teams. I know some people will say we need to treat Meath seriously and I've no doubt pk and the players will. Competion is great and I think there are a good few lads who will need/want to put in great performances to hold on or stake their claim to the jersey. I'm predicting a scoreline like 2-18 to 1-14 in favour of our lads then it's back to croker in 8 days for a massive match whomever it is that we will play.
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Post by oldschool on Aug 1, 2019 10:26:56 GMT
Anyone know who the referee is for Saturday Fergal Kelly (Longford) Let's hope he dispenses with the two yellow cards nonsense and give yellow to the instigator of tussles and not punish the likes of Sean Ó Sé as was done against Donegal Why is it that umpires and linesmen are so slow to inform referee of who is to blame. Hear no evil, see no evil? ??
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Post by oldschool on Aug 1, 2019 10:35:48 GMT
Anyone know who the referee is for Saturday Fergal Kelly (Longford)
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Post by veteran on Aug 1, 2019 14:26:41 GMT
According to the Kerryman Tomas O’Se’s red card has been rescinded. So, what did Dublin Joe report him for? Apparently it was he who alerted the referee to the incident. A striking offence presumably, which according to this decision never occurred. Yet this wretch rides on with impunity , seeing action in Omagh next weekend. It is imperative that this guy not be allowed officiate Kerry games in any capacity in future.
Delighted for young Tomas. Peter will surely reward him with some action next Saturday.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Aug 1, 2019 14:45:21 GMT
According to the Kerryman Tomas O’Se’s red card has been rescinded. So, what did Dublin Joe report him for? Apparently it was he who alerted the referee to the incident. A striking offence presumably, which according to this decision never occurred. Yet this wretch rides on with impunity , seeing action in Omagh next weekend. It is imperative that this guy not be allowed officiate Kerry games in any capacity in future. Delighted for young Tomas. Peter will surely reward him with some action next Saturday. You reward a lad for getting sent off? It's been rescinded but he was still stupid enough to raise his hands after being on about 2 mins- we couldnt then push up on their last kick out.
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 1, 2019 15:11:38 GMT
So in a tight game of tight margins Dublin Joe possibly cost Kerry this game with the phantom call. He should be nowhere near a kerry team playing. It will be interesting to see if he misses the semi finals and If Dublin John is lining him up for a Dublin final.
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Post by veteran on Aug 1, 2019 15:31:53 GMT
According to the Kerryman Tomas O’Se’s red card has been rescinded. So, what did Dublin Joe report him for? Apparently it was he who alerted the referee to the incident. A striking offence presumably, which according to this decision never occurred. Yet this wretch rides on with impunity , seeing action in Omagh next weekend. It is imperative that this guy not be allowed officiate Kerry games in any capacity in future. Delighted for young Tomas. Peter will surely reward him with some action next Saturday. You reward a lad for getting sent off? It's been rescinded but he was still stupid enough to raise his hands after being on about 2 mins- we couldnt then push up on their last kick out. Since when has raising your hands become an offence? Are you suggesting that he should be punished for being sent off in error?
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Post by boherbui on Aug 1, 2019 15:33:21 GMT
All this moaning about referees is getting tiresome. Every team in the country complains about referees, usually though when they lose a match .
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Post by Kingdomson on Aug 1, 2019 15:58:45 GMT
So in a tight game of tight margins Dublin Joe possibly cost Kerry this game with the phantom call. He should be nowhere near a kerry team playing. It will be interesting to see if he misses the semi finals and If Dublin John is lining him up for a Dublin final. What is the criteria for objecting officially to an inter-county match referee being appointed? Is there actually a way one can? Before Joe McQuillan and David Gough are appointed again for a Dublin v Kerry fixture, I would hope that Tim Murphy on behalf of this county would raise more than concerns but outright object! There's too much history and too much has gone on in the recent past to just ignore these gentlemen being left near such a fixture.
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Post by Sons of Pitches on Aug 1, 2019 16:02:31 GMT
Jesus lads we're turning into Mayo blog.
Control what we can control. That's all we can do.
Refs are humans. They make mistakes sure that's why rubbers are at the end of pencils!
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Post by Kingdomson on Aug 1, 2019 16:02:45 GMT
According to the Kerryman Tomas O’Se’s red card has been rescinded. So, what did Dublin Joe report him for? Apparently it was he who alerted the referee to the incident. A striking offence presumably, which according to this decision never occurred. Yet this wretch rides on with impunity , seeing action in Omagh next weekend. It is imperative that this guy not be allowed officiate Kerry games in any capacity in future. Delighted for young Tomas. Peter will surely reward him with some action next Saturday. You reward a lad for getting sent off? It's been rescinded but he was still stupid enough to raise his hands after being on about 2 mins- we couldnt then push up on their last kick out. Tomas was foolish to react BUT he was not the instigator and this is an important point! Too often the forward is punished when it's the defender who is doing the blackguarding in the first place and goes unpunished and unreported by a clearly biased official in this case. Joe it seems can only see through one eye.
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Post by Kingdomson on Aug 1, 2019 16:07:25 GMT
Jesus lads we're turning into Mayo blog. Control what we can control. That's all we can do. Refs are humans. They make mistakes sure isn't that's why rubbers are at the end of pencils! No! Let's not pretend or be naive, it's not always mistakes and in the case of Joe he has a bias against Kerry.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 1, 2019 16:08:52 GMT
Jesus lads we're turning into Mayo blog. Control what we can control. That's all we can do. Refs are humans. They make mistakes sure that's why rubbers are at the end of pencils! the point is not about officials making mistakes. Its about a bias a tiny number of refs clearly have.....and they get a lot of big games.
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Post by veteran on Aug 1, 2019 16:21:16 GMT
Kingdomson wonders what the protocol is regarding objecting to referees. I am not entirely sure of my facts and perhaps somebody with a better memory than mine will help me out. Some years ago in Tipp/Kilkenny match, drawn All-Ireland final?, the referee gave Tipp a last minute long range free which could have won the All-Ireland for them. It went wide. Brian Cody was livid post match at the awarding of the free. As far as I can recall the referee was Barry Kelly and as far as I can recall he never again refereed a Kilkenny match. Perhaps we should have objected to Dublin Joe post 2011. That last minute “free “ to win an All-Ireland! Of courses history has shown that it is not enough to object to him as a referee but having any role in a Kerry match.
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Post by Sons of Pitches on Aug 1, 2019 16:25:58 GMT
Jesus lads we're turning into Mayo blog. Control what we can control. That's all we can do. Refs are humans. They make mistakes sure isn't that's why rubbers are at the end of pencils! No! Let's not pretend or be naive, it's not always mistakes and in the case of Joe he has a bias against Kerry. And are you not biased towards Kerry? You see things through green and gold tinted glasses. The term availability heuristic is our minds flawed presumption that things that are memorised are also important. This often leads to us unfairly thinking of certain refs in relation to some high profile incidents. Every sport has this. Criticism of the ref's performance tends to be much more severe for the team that loses. I'm not denying that Joe has made some mistakes but to come out and say he's outright biased is a fairly strong statement. Refs will continue to make mistakes at least until the tech takes over and maybe even then as witnessed by VAR in soccer it will still be a grey area.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 1, 2019 16:31:31 GMT
No! Let's not pretend or be naive, it's not always mistakes and in the case of Joe he has a bias against Kerry. And are you not biased towards Kerry? You see things through green and gold tinted glasses. The term availability heuristic is our minds flawed presumption that things that are memorised are also important. This often leads to us unfairly thinking of certain refs in relation to some high profile incidents. Every sport has this. Criticism of the ref's performance tends to be much more severe for the team that loses. I'm not denying that Joe has made some mistakes but to come out and say he's outright biased is a fairly strong statement. Refs will continue to make mistakes at least until the tech takes over and maybe even then as witnessed by VAR in soccer it will still be a grey area. ...and what follows this is confirmation bias.
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