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Post by An Bradán on Oct 26, 2018 23:19:03 GMT
Extra stewards to be brought in for Kerry SFC final In a bid not to see the disgraceful scenes that marred last Sunday’s Kerry SFC semi-final replay, the Kingdom have drafted in extra stewards. However, there will be no reduction in those permitted along the sideline following last Sunday’s brawl that saw players and mentors from both Dingle and East Kerry get involved in a mass melee. Suspensions have been handed out following that with Dingle mentor Colm Geaney picking up an eight-week ban for striking an East Kerry player. The scenes in Tralee were shown on social media all over the country and has become a source of embarrassment for the Kerry County Board. The Kerryman has revealed that extra stewards will patrol the sidelines for this Sunday’s final between Dr Crokes and Dingle at Austin Stack Park, and they will be operating close to the dugouts to try and curb any potential fall out between the teams. hoganstand.com/Article/Index/291861Extra stewards won't make a blind bit of difference should anything major happen. It's the numbers on the sideline that cause the majority of these incidents and that is what should have been addressed. It's a factor but the real problem is the moronic behaviour of the clowns disgracing themselves, their clubs, their families and communities by engaging in this sort of behaviour. The GAA rule book needs to be changed to reflect the seriousness of these incidents. Otherwise we're going nowhere fast. What odds a draw ?
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Post by whacker on Oct 27, 2018 9:09:06 GMT
Extra stewards to be brought in for Kerry SFC final In a bid not to see the disgraceful scenes that marred last Sunday’s Kerry SFC semi-final replay, the Kingdom have drafted in extra stewards. However, there will be no reduction in those permitted along the sideline following last Sunday’s brawl that saw players and mentors from both Dingle and East Kerry get involved in a mass melee. Suspensions have been handed out following that with Dingle mentor Colm Geaney picking up an eight-week ban for striking an East Kerry player. The scenes in Tralee were shown on social media all over the country and has become a source of embarrassment for the Kerry County Board. The Kerryman has revealed that extra stewards will patrol the sidelines for this Sunday’s final between Dr Crokes and Dingle at Austin Stack Park, and they will be operating close to the dugouts to try and curb any potential fall out between the teams. hoganstand.com/Article/Index/291861Extra stewards won't make a blind bit of difference should anything major happen. It's the numbers on the sideline that cause the majority of these incidents and that is what should have been addressed. Must say if I was from Dingle I'd be a bit miffed this week.Lot of the coverage makes them and them alone out to be the aggressors.It takes 2 to tango and East Kerry weren't slow going forward either. I totally agree, other than the mentors absolute moment of madness I think they might only have had one booking ,no coverage or mention of d Clifford sending a dingle player to hospital and injuring his hand in the process , very biased media coverage all because of the mentor , also no mention of how dingle turned an eighteen point loss around to win the game by thirteen points .
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Post by southward on Oct 27, 2018 14:18:51 GMT
Extra stewards to be brought in for Kerry SFC final In a bid not to see the disgraceful scenes that marred last Sunday’s Kerry SFC semi-final replay, the Kingdom have drafted in extra stewards. However, there will be no reduction in those permitted along the sideline following last Sunday’s brawl that saw players and mentors from both Dingle and East Kerry get involved in a mass melee. Suspensions have been handed out following that with Dingle mentor Colm Geaney picking up an eight-week ban for striking an East Kerry player. The scenes in Tralee were shown on social media all over the country and has become a source of embarrassment for the Kerry County Board. The Kerryman has revealed that extra stewards will patrol the sidelines for this Sunday’s final between Dr Crokes and Dingle at Austin Stack Park, and they will be operating close to the dugouts to try and curb any potential fall out between the teams. hoganstand.com/Article/Index/291861Extra stewards won't make a blind bit of difference should anything major happen. It's the numbers on the sideline that cause the majority of these incidents and that is what should have been addressed. Serious question: In the event of trouble breaking out, what degree of authority do stewards have in relation to players/subs/mentors ? Can they eject them from the ground, for instance, like they could a supporter? Or hand them over to the Gardai? How physical can their involvement be? And how does it all tie in with the referee's authority?
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Post by buck02 on Oct 27, 2018 17:58:29 GMT
It's a pity that the stupid actions of one individual has led to the apathy that is been shown here towards the final.
For years Crokes were walking the championship and there was zero excitement about our county championship.
I think this year is the best campaign I have ever seen. The new fixtures format has helped and there have been some wonderful contests.
I'm looking forward to another exciting contest tomorrow. Hope the admission fee and the general negativity doesn't put off too many people.
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Post by mossie on Oct 27, 2018 18:19:29 GMT
indeed Buck
few unsavoury incidents but great bite to the championship this year.
be some achievement by Dingle if they bring down the Crokes
I cant see I happening to be honest
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Post by sayitasiseeit on Oct 27, 2018 19:29:33 GMT
On the topic of skirmishes and unsavory events happening in games.
3 things are causing them. 1. In consistent reffing, there’s no quick fix for this though 2. Players goading other players constantly. A player gets blown for over carrying for example and it’s a free out. Next thing you see 3 of the opposition players in his face celebrating. They’ve won their free, get on with it. Refs need to hop the ball in these situations and give out yellows to stomp it out. It’s far too common in today’s game and it’s ugly and unessecarily and far from the manly thing to be doing. 3. In county league games especially, dishonest line ball calls and interference of “backroom” team members on the sidelines, clowns shouting in verbals to players. I wasn’t at the Dingle game last week but from what I heard some idiot from the Dingle backroom team grabbed the ball and. tried to slow down the line ball by holding on to it. Adding fuel to the fire.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Oct 27, 2018 19:35:51 GMT
I was listening to the Second Captains yesterday.
They were discussing brawls in the very early days of the GAA and even pre-1884.
This is not a new phenom.
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Post by sayitasiseeit on Oct 27, 2018 21:03:34 GMT
It’s not a new phenomenon but lads jumping up and surrounding an opposing player, roaring into their faces, humiliating them after they’ve missed a shot or have a free has been awarded against them. That’s rampant at all levels in the game now. It’s been there for a few years but it’s a rampant issue now.
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Post by mandad on Oct 28, 2018 9:19:13 GMT
It’s not a new phenomenon but lads jumping up and surrounding an opposing player, roaring into their faces, humiliating them after they’ve missed a shot or have a free has been awarded against them. That’s rampant at all levels in the game now. It’s been there for a few years but it’s a rampant issue now. Agree 100%. And most, if not all, of those issues, have existing rules to deal effectively with them. Instead of ‘tinkering’ further with rule changes, we should be concentrating more on proper and uniformed enforcement of the existing rules. My own personal bugbear is the four-step rule. How can any player affect a tackle if an opponent is allowed an excessive number of steps? (Sometimes double figures).
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Post by Fado on Oct 28, 2018 10:32:27 GMT
The offender should be up before a judge for that particular assault and there is no defence.
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Post by goonised on Oct 28, 2018 11:14:43 GMT
The offender should be up before a judge for that particular assault and there is no defence. Will yahoo way you clown
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Post by goonised on Oct 28, 2018 11:15:32 GMT
The offender should be up before a judge for that particular assault and there is no defence. Will yahoo way you clown Will you go way you clown
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Post by Hicser on Oct 28, 2018 11:38:32 GMT
Does anyone know if the match is on TG4?
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Post by john4 on Oct 28, 2018 11:48:31 GMT
Conditions should be perfect today, looking forward to a good contest, I'm neutral but fancy Dingle to win. They've the most willingness to work hard particularly in the backs that I've seen in the championship. Hopefully quality football makes the headlines and nothing else.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Oct 28, 2018 11:51:33 GMT
What time does the curtain raiser throw in?
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Post by john4 on Oct 28, 2018 11:52:26 GMT
It's not on tg4 and the u16s start at 1
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Post by Fado on Oct 28, 2018 12:28:05 GMT
The offender should be up before a judge for that particular assault and there is no defence. Will yahoo way you clown As I said, no defence for that scummary.
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Post by Galway breeze on Oct 28, 2018 17:34:00 GMT
Today's county championship was poor first half and good second half. Dingle we're close but Crokes held their nerves and provailed. Ref played well today fair play Seamus. It was cold in ASP and the fans turned up in an their numbers.Overall great day at bar the price.
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Post by southward on Oct 28, 2018 17:56:35 GMT
Today's county championship was poor first half and good second half. Dingle we're close but Crokes held their nerves and provailed. Ref played well today fair play Seamus. It was cold in ASP and the fans turned up in an their numbers.Overall great day at bar the price. Can't say I agree here apart from the ref. I thought the game was quite flat and never came to life. Great crowd and perfect conditions but both teams were far too defensive, particularly Dingle who had all 15 back in their own half whenever Crokes had posession. Crokes had that bit of know-how to engineer the scores and that was the difference. Dingle very short of ideas, I thought. Some great point scoring on both sides but rather disappointing fare overall.
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Post by buck02 on Oct 28, 2018 19:14:43 GMT
I think Dingle will look back with some regret about this game over the winter.
I think Crokes were there for the taking with a lot of their forwards especially below par.
The save by Shane Murphy was crucial, a goal by Dingle at that time would have given them serious momentum.
Murphy, White, Casey and Shaw impressed for Crokes. Tom Sullivan (in the first half) Mikey Geaney, Barry Sullivan and Mathew Flaherty for Dingle.
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Post by fivenarow on Oct 28, 2018 19:19:32 GMT
The Crokes were more clinical when they needed to be, bar for the miss at the end. Some super scores kicked by both sides but it never lived up to expectations. The Crokes subs did the business again, their impact is invaluable in tight games. I also think that the sending off had a bearing on the result as Crokes cut straight through for the goal & the extra man was obviously a help. The lad that got the line was lucky he didn’t go in the first half for a crazy decision to throw a punch at Tony Brosnan, if he’d gone down it was a definite red. Besides a few skirmishes it wasn’t a patch on the last few weeks. The only thing I would say in relation to the ref was that Dingle were pulled back on a few occasions for frees when the advantage was to let them play on. IMO the best team won but Dingle has a chance, Crokes are a long way short of past years but I’d definitely find a place for Dáithí Casey somewhere in the kerry setup.
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 28, 2018 21:29:40 GMT
Poor game, scour defensive football at its best, or worst. No advert for Kerry football, indeed not even a first cousin of Kerry football. None of the county players stood out or even looked better than good club players. Biggest incentive today for going was the presence of a bit of sun on the terrace and TG4 going elsewhere. If Dingle were there till next week they wouldn't have broken Crokes down. Defensive football matted to a non attacking blueprint is defeated football. The biggest potential influencer of this game was carrying the water bottle. If todays game becomes the norm in Kerry there will be nothing in it for the neutral, certainly not a twenty euro. Yawn............
Crokes were the better team and fully deserved their win today.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Oct 29, 2018 9:03:45 GMT
Sounds like it augers well for the county team with incumbents being held by contenders. I am beginning to think, or maybe hope, that we will topple the auld Dubs this year.
As I am at it, I attended the Donegal County Final a week ago and what an encounter - about 10 classic long range points, purist football skill for 90% of the game, good management tactics particularly by the eventual winners Gweedore and who's every player already has an All Ireland medal at some level. It had all the hallmarks of Paidí lifting Sam and which was probably the Gaeltacht factor.
Couldn't benchmark them as I haven't seen other counties but the standard up here is pretty high with a few interesting intercounty prospects in the fullness of time. One Naoise Ó Baoill was pure poetry in motion and all that is between him and promotion is that he is but 5' 5" - worth the entrance money on his own, eating up ground in solos, non-stop engine had him right time and place throughout, driving his marker mental - his mum is Japanese and what he lacks in stature he more than makes up for in energy and precision. Now 36 year old Cassidy played a tactical role goal-hanging at FF, only to spring out and expose the goal-mouth as wee Naoise made his approach. I sense there is more to come here though as I say, while I don't know what any other county champs are like, I won't be surprised if Gweedore are togging out on St Paddys day.
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Post by glengael on Oct 29, 2018 11:31:52 GMT
Crokes have set the bench mark for Kerry Co C'ship for the past decade or so and no club or division has consistently matched them at that level. Coupled with East Kerry's dominance at minor level, it could be argued that the balance of power is now firmly tilted East. What does all this mean for Kerry football at County wide level? Not inter county but within the county...
It will be interesting to see how Crokes fare out in Munster this year. The Barr's collected their 1st Cork County title since 1985 yesterday, hard to believe that a city club could go so long in the doldrums. With a Kerryman on the line, it will be a new adventure for them in Munster.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Oct 29, 2018 12:10:50 GMT
Crokes have set the bench mark for Kerry Co C'ship for the past decade or so and no club or division has consistently matched them at that level. Coupled with East Kerry's dominance at minor level, it could be argued that the balance of power is now firmly tilted East. What does all this mean for Kerry football at County wide level? Not inter county but within the county... It will be interesting to see how Crokes fare out in Munster this year. The Barr's collected their 1st Cork County title since 1985 yesterday, hard to believe that a city club could go so long in the doldrums. With a Kerryman on the line, it will be a new adventure for them in Munster. It means that after a decade of intensive rural depopulation, especially that of young men, one of the most populoud areas of the county (Killarney & it’s hinterland) is doing well. It’s a natural conclusion- areas like the north & south kerry districts have lost a generation of players and have thusly fallen off- especially the north kerry districts.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2018 15:24:26 GMT
Unbelievable decade for Crokes, they don’t get the credit they deserve for their consistency in both league and championship.
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Post by sayitasiseeit on Oct 29, 2018 19:04:42 GMT
In fairness to the Ref, they’ve been getting it in the neck all year. The final was reffed well. Only one call I feel he got wrong, late in the game against Dingle when they were two down in front of the crokes dig out. Delighted to see the yellow awarded to Tony Brosnan that time the Dingle man flicked out. Brosnan instigated and goaded the Dingle man. Both were in the wrong and both were cautioned.
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Post by southward on Oct 29, 2018 19:19:48 GMT
In fairness to the Ref, they’ve been getting it in the neck all year. The final was reffed well. Only one call I feel he got wrong, late in the game against Dingle when they were two down in front of the crokes dig out. Delighted to see the yellow awarded to Tony Brosnan that time the Dingle man flicked out. Brosnan instigated and goaded the Dingle man. Both were in the wrong and both were cautioned. Yeah, the ref was very good yesterday. Stamped his authority from the off and made it clear he wasn't going to tolerate any crap. Got nearly all the decisions right and explained them all clearly. 2nd yellow for O'Conchúir maybe a bit harsh?
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Post by Corner Back on Oct 29, 2018 19:58:22 GMT
In fairness to the Ref, they’ve been getting it in the neck all year. The final was reffed well. Only one call I feel he got wrong, late in the game against Dingle when they were two down in front of the crokes dig out. Delighted to see the yellow awarded to Tony Brosnan that time the Dingle man flicked out. Brosnan instigated and goaded the Dingle man. Both were in the wrong and both were cautioned. Yeah, the ref was very good yesterday. Stamped his authority from the off and made it clear he wasn't going to tolerate any crap. Got nearly all the decisions right and explained them all clearly. 2nd yellow for O'Conchúir maybe a bit harsh? Thought it was a black (followed by red) for a drag down? I was some distance away so open to correction on offence and colour of card
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Post by buck02 on Oct 29, 2018 20:09:40 GMT
Yeah, the ref was very good yesterday. Stamped his authority from the off and made it clear he wasn't going to tolerate any crap. Got nearly all the decisions right and explained them all clearly. 2nd yellow for O'Conchúir maybe a bit harsh? Thought it was a black (followed by red) for a drag down? I was some distance away so open to correction on offence and colour of card No it was definitely a second yellow. And it was harsh. The free out for a supposed dive by one of the Dingle forwards in the first half was baffling. But overall a good display by the ref.
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