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Post by Mickmack on Nov 5, 2018 9:01:17 GMT
nacrocaigh. I have never knocked Crokes They are a model club.
However the County Board should try to keep the playing pitch as level as possible and preventing more outsiders from joining for 5 years after winning a county title is one that i can think of.
It might not be ideal or workable in reality...but it would at least be uniform across all clubs and not just Crokes.
It would apply to Stacks till 2019.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2018 13:15:47 GMT
Mickmack how would that work . Shane Murphy was barely getting games for Kilcummin. A fine keeper. He moved to Crokes and it has helped his career. He is now a top keeper. If a player wants to move and better his career then he should be able to do so. Nobody was talking about it when South Kerry were winning .
It’s ridiculous to stop a player playing for a club just because the team is winning. I would say the same if Stacks or Legion we’re winning. That’s not the answer and not fair on the player. That’s just my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2018 13:45:16 GMT
Mickmack how would that work . Shane Murphy was barely getting games for Kilcummin. A fine keeper. He moved to Crokes and it has helped his career. He is now a top keeper. If a player wants to move and better his career then he should be able to do so. Nobody was talking about it when South Kerry were winning . It’s ridiculous to stop a player playing for a club just because the team is winning. I would say the same if Stacks or Legion we’re winning. That’s not the answer and not fair on the player. That’s just my opinion. Fair enough but then basically any player can move to further his career and that would be of benefit to the bigger teams. Why would a guy play junior football in this scenario
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Post by wideball on Nov 5, 2018 14:15:52 GMT
Mickmack how would that work . Shane Murphy was barely getting games for Kilcummin. A fine keeper. He moved to Crokes and it has helped his career. He is now a top keeper. If a player wants to move and better his career then he should be able to do so. Nobody was talking about it when South Kerry were winning . It’s ridiculous to stop a player playing for a club just because the team is winning. I would say the same if Stacks or Legion we’re winning. That’s not the answer and not fair on the player. That’s just my opinion. Fair enough he wasn't getting games for kilcummin but Mickmacks suggested rule doesn't force him to stay put. He could have bettered his career at rathmore for example.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2018 15:07:07 GMT
It’s up to the player to decide. If a guy from sneem or Valentia moves to Tralee where he works and has a family there you can’t force him to drive back and forth every week . It’s up to the player . Does he join Stacks or stay with sneem. That’s his decision.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2018 15:10:19 GMT
Why would he go to rathmore if he’s closer to Crokes that’s ridiculous. That statement doesn’t make any sense.
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Post by wideball on Nov 5, 2018 15:59:25 GMT
He is even closer to kilcummin. The point I was making is that a player could leave his own club and not go chasing medals at the strongest club in the county. I think the idea has some merit in theory.
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Post by greengold35 on Nov 5, 2018 15:59:53 GMT
The 18 month residency rule has to be complied with to move clubs within the county - doesn’t apply to inter county transfers for work purposes - seems to be working well.
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Post by yellowbelly on Nov 5, 2018 16:21:05 GMT
Just to clarify issues regarding the three players Crokes "poached". Shane Murphy, along with his brother Kieran, had both been living in the Killarney Parish for six years prior to his transfer. Alan O'Sullivan had been a teacher and working in Killarney for at least three years before joining Crokes. Mike Milner is a Garda and living in Killarney for at least the last five years before switching from Dohenys in Cork three years ago.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 5, 2018 16:26:26 GMT
None of the transfers to Crokes have dramatically altered what the club have achieved this decade. Top class club, team and management setup. Pat O'Shea is top drawer in my opinion. I wish Crokes the very best as they continue to prepare and provide quality players for the various Kerry teams. Looking forward to seeing how all their young players develop over the coming years. Some serious young players coming through the East Kerry region at the moment. The Sem and their clubs provide a great template for their success.
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Post by clubman on Nov 5, 2018 21:00:52 GMT
It’s up to the player to decide. If a guy from sneem or Valentia moves to Tralee where he works and has a family there you can’t force him to drive back and forth every week . It’s up to the player . Does he join Stacks or stay with sneem. That’s his decision. Its easy know that you are from a club that has never struggled for players. Plenty of lads drive from Dublin/Limerick/Cork and other places to far flung areas of Kerry every weekend. Their loyalty is keeping rural clubs alive
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 1:53:30 GMT
Ok and again thats their choice im not knocking it. Its the players choice. You're right it does keep the rural clubs going.
If a player decides to stay with his rural club or play for a club in Dublin or Cork then he should be allowed to do so no matter who the club is.
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Post by whacker on Nov 6, 2018 20:13:56 GMT
Some serious anti crokes posters on here which is really sad. Thankfully only a small amount of people. jealousy and begrudgingly towards any club on here is ridiculous. Dingle are a fine side and I’m sure will be back next year. O’Rahillys another fine side who will be around next year . Some serious childish nonsense on here and it’s a sad knock on some posters character on here. Crokes desreved their title this year. They won it because they were the best team this year. South Kerry won their titles and deservedly so because they were the best team around at the time. Don’t act like children blaming refs and who’s from Killarney. The guys that are not from Killarney asked and wanted to play with Crokes. Just like Stacks Nemo St. Vincent’s or any other club in the country. It’s a normal thing now . Players move around a lot and live in different places and travel for work. Killarney is a fantastic town I’m very proud to be from there and a lot of people move here to raise their kids and to work here. Crokes are a great club. Very proud to be a Crokes man and once you go there at a young age and play with them you become part of a family where everyone looks out for each other. If you come from another part of Kerry or Ireland you are welcomed with open arms and you are looked after . Some great people put a tremendous of time and effort into the club and it’s a real family club. No matter what size of a club it is Crokes people love their club and they put in their own time and take time out of their lives to make the club what it is today. Nobody should begrudge a club like that . Crossmaglen are another standout club like that. Other clubs should learn from that not knock it. I think posters are allowed blame refs if they think their performance was below par . I think all posters agreed that the ref in the KOR v crokes game gave a shambolic performance , I support neither team but I was st the game and think the ref gave crokes every possible advantage , in saying all that crokes are a brilliant team and best of luck to them in the future
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Post by ataboy on Nov 17, 2018 18:48:11 GMT
Ok and again thats their choice im not knocking it. Its the players choice. You're right it does keep the rural clubs going. If a player decides to stay with his rural club or play for a club in Dublin or Cork then he should be allowed to do so no matter who the club is. One of the greatest things about the GAA and very unique is that you play with where you are from ie the village/town area you are from. Loyalty is goes hand in hand with that. I always find it very sad when you see a player transfering to another club. It seems to be increasing more and more which is a shame.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2018 3:28:46 GMT
It’s a reality whether you think it’s sad or not. People move around a lot and they go where the work is. They can’t be faulted for that. It’s easier to play with a club that close to you . Makes sense. You can’t expect somebody who works and lives a distance away to play with that team when they have kids and a family in a different town.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 19, 2018 8:33:06 GMT
It’s a reality whether you think it’s sad or not. People move around a lot and they go where the work is. They can’t be faulted for that. It’s easier to play with a club that close to you . Makes sense. You can’t expect somebody who works and lives a distance away to play with that team when they have kids and a family in a different town. I agree. My point is that lads should join Legion if moving into Killarney for a 5 year period after Crokes' last win in the county championship.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 17:15:01 GMT
Cant agree with that. Legion over the years have had just as much outsiders if not more than Crokes have. It's ridiculous to say you have to play with one club over the other if you move to Killarney. The same thing can be said with Tralee.
If a player moves to Tralee and he wants to play for Stacks are you honestly going to look a guy in the eye and tell him you can't do that you have to play for Mitchels. Youre in cuckoo land man.
A family moves from Valentia to work and live in Killarney. The Father wants hid kids to play with Crokes are you going to tell him and his kids no you can't do that you have to play for Legion.
What Century are you in man.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 20, 2018 19:10:09 GMT
Letd agree to disagree
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