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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 23:23:21 GMT
Another big test awaits. I would like to see Casey start. Hopefully Geaney and Shanahan are fit.
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Post by An Bradán on Feb 26, 2018 1:21:24 GMT
Would be expecting a far better Kerry performance on Sat evening. There has to be a response to that poor second half vs Galway. Too many players off the pace to turn things around vs an excellent Galway outfit.
Heads, bodies and plans better be in a better shape for next week or we'll be humiliated.
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Post by wayupnorth on Feb 26, 2018 11:50:14 GMT
Three possible scenarios:
1 Reeling from two consequetive defeats an inexperienced Kerry team is taken apart by a rampant Dublin.
2 Kerry pick themselves up off the floor and pull off an unexpected last gasp victory.
3 Kerry’s young team perform well but unfortunately are no match for Dublin who shade it by a couple of points
After yesterday I think scenario 3 is the best we can hope for but 2 is possible if we play like we did in the first two games. Remember our best two games all last year were the two we played against Dublin in the League.
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Post by dart on Feb 26, 2018 11:59:10 GMT
Maybe the huge snowfall forecasted for Friday will see the match postponed?
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Post by kerrygold on Feb 26, 2018 15:16:22 GMT
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Post by kerrygold on Feb 27, 2018 14:19:03 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 27, 2018 14:24:56 GMT
Most likely to be played on 10th march if it cant go ahead on sat.
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Post by kerrygold on Feb 27, 2018 14:41:04 GMT
The extra week might not be any harm!
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Post by kerryexile on Feb 27, 2018 15:35:47 GMT
A few of the heavy weights should be brought back for the Dublin game when ever it goes ahead. I hope he doesn't put out a team with too many young players. Players I would like to see back are Morley, Moran, O'Donoghue maybe Maher, Darran, Griffin. I also think Paul Geaney should be rested as it hasn't been happening for him. He has been mostly surrounded by young players and maybe that made it too easy for defences to concentrate on him. A break would do him good. If Donaghy were to appear it would add a bit of spice to the cauldron (unlikely thought it is).
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Post by greengold35 on Feb 27, 2018 16:00:33 GMT
A few of the heavy weights should be brought back for the Dublin game when ever it goes ahead. I hope he doesn't put out a team with too many young players. Players I would like to see back are Morley, Moran, O'Donoghue maybe Maher, Darran, Griffin. I also think Paul Geaney should be rested as it hasn't been happening for him. He has been mostly surrounded by young players and maybe that made it too easy for defences to concentrate on him. A break would do him good. If Donaghy were to appear it would add a bit of spice to the cauldron (unlikely thought it is). Moran was on the terrace near me last Sunday, unlikely to be playing next weekend; Maher & Darran have yet to be involved, so, again unlikely to see them in action.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Feb 27, 2018 16:18:33 GMT
A few of the heavy weights should be brought back for the Dublin game when ever it goes ahead. I hope he doesn't put out a team with too many young players. Players I would like to see back are Morley, Moran, O'Donoghue maybe Maher, Darran, Griffin. I also think Paul Geaney should be rested as it hasn't been happening for him. He has been mostly surrounded by young players and maybe that made it too easy for defences to concentrate on him. A break would do him good. If Donaghy were to appear it would add a bit of spice to the cauldron (unlikely thought it is). Not a hope Donaghy will be involved as the Warriors have a massive top of the table clash in Dublin on Saturday night I fear unless we do something we haven't before (i.e. play with a defensive system) that we could be filleted by Dublin. I have o idea how good our backs are really to be honest as they are consistently being hopelessly exposed in open spaces and one and one situations. The only thing I can say for certain is that we have a terrible tendency to foul. And cheap silly frees to give away at that.
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Post by greengold35 on Feb 27, 2018 16:29:10 GMT
A few of the heavy weights should be brought back for the Dublin game when ever it goes ahead. I hope he doesn't put out a team with too many young players. Players I would like to see back are Morley, Moran, O'Donoghue maybe Maher, Darran, Griffin. I also think Paul Geaney should be rested as it hasn't been happening for him. He has been mostly surrounded by young players and maybe that made it too easy for defences to concentrate on him. A break would do him good. If Donaghy were to appear it would add a bit of spice to the cauldron (unlikely thought it is). Not a hope Donaghy will be involved as the Warriors have a massive top of the table clash in Dublin on Saturday night I fear unless we do something we haven't before (i.e. play with a defensive system) that we could be filleted by Dublin. I have o idea how good our backs are really to be honest as they are consistently being hopelessly exposed in open spaces and one and one situations. The only thing I can say for certain is that we have a terrible tendency to foul. And cheap silly frees to give away at that. That is very true and not always down to experience or lack of - last Sunday, late in the game and directly in front of me on the terrace side, a Galway forward was fouled from behind by Peter Crowley when he was faced by Jason Foley and Shane Enright - it was a lazy foul, we had 3 men around this guy,we had sufficient numbers present to make him overplay the ball.
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Post by kerryboy83 on Feb 27, 2018 17:00:52 GMT
How long is Gavin Crowley out for does anyone know?
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Post by buck02 on Feb 27, 2018 17:12:16 GMT
Most likely to be played on 10th march if it cant go ahead on sat. I hope they give us a small bit more notice than they did a few weeks ago. When I say a small bit, I mean 24 hours.
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Post by Kingdomson on Feb 27, 2018 17:31:30 GMT
How long is Gavin Crowley out for does anyone know? Good question? And where is Tadhg Morley too?
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Feb 27, 2018 18:39:26 GMT
A few of the heavy weights should be brought back for the Dublin game when ever it goes ahead. I hope he doesn't put out a team with too many young players. Players I would like to see back are Morley, Moran, O'Donoghue maybe Maher, Darran, Griffin. I also think Paul Geaney should be rested as it hasn't been happening for him. He has been mostly surrounded by young players and maybe that made it too easy for defences to concentrate on him. A break would do him good. If Donaghy were to appear it would add a bit of spice to the cauldron (unlikely thought it is). This is the exact opposite that should happen. This game is not the be all and end all. It is about learning and the young players learning. We have tried the old faces time and time again and we have not won. We will never know how good our youth is until we let them loose against the very best. Everyone wanted the young players playing in the league before the league and now after 2 wins and 2 losses (and not bad ones in my opinion) you want to bin the youth and go back to the old guard? This is cowardly and short sighted and talking about short sighted I think our young guns will do better against Dublin as it is football vs football and no mass defences and they will have the engines and pace to keep up with the Dubs.
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Post by buck02 on Feb 27, 2018 19:01:02 GMT
How long is Gavin Crowley out for does anyone know? Good question? And where is Tadhg Morley too? They were both on the terrace together on Sunday anyway
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Post by Kingdomson on Feb 27, 2018 19:29:34 GMT
A few of the heavy weights should be brought back for the Dublin game when ever it goes ahead. I hope he doesn't put out a team with too many young players. Players I would like to see back are Morley, Moran, O'Donoghue maybe Maher, Darran, Griffin. I also think Paul Geaney should be rested as it hasn't been happening for him. He has been mostly surrounded by young players and maybe that made it too easy for defences to concentrate on him. A break would do him good. If Donaghy were to appear it would add a bit of spice to the cauldron (unlikely thought it is). This is the exact opposite that should happen. This game is not the be all and end all. It is about learning and the young players learning. We have tried the old faces time and time again and we have not won. We will never know how good our youth is until we let them loose against the very best. Everyone wanted the young players playing in the league before the league and now after 2 wins and 2 losses (and not bad ones in my opinion) you want to bin the youth and go back to the old guard? This is cowardly and short sighted and talking about short sighted I think our young guns will do better against Dublin as it is football vs football and no mass defences and they will have the engines and pace to keep up with the Dubs. Firstly, that's a bit of exaggeration. Kerry won their 5th Munster title in a row just last season and the National football league title for the first time since 2009. Kerry were flat last year in the All Ireland series but still could and probably should have beaten Mayo the first day out. However, there have been serious issues with our sideline in highend games - no arguments here! Yes, Kerry are right to introduce fresh blood but a blend of youth and experience is not issue at this stage, particularly facing this Dublin team. Dublin may be All Ireland Champions but being the great champions they are, you can be sure it sticks in their craw that Kerry beat them in a national league final last year. Dublin will be determined to slam the boot back down hard on our throat. Dublin - no mass defences? You must be joking! Make no mistake, Dublin does the mass defence as good as any side but they have the balance and attack with huge pace and on mass too. Just look at the game last Saturday night against Mayo, look at any Dublin game of recent vintage, the Dublin full forward line were tackling and hunting down Mayo backs, as with any good side the defence starts with the full forward line. Do you think the Galway goalkeeper would be allowed solo the ball out to his 45 by the Dublin forwards like what happened to Kerry on home turf? NOT A CHANCE. Good defending is a team effort not just a job for our backs and we need a blend of youth and experience.
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Post by kerrygold on Feb 27, 2018 19:58:23 GMT
A few of the heavy weights should be brought back for the Dublin game when ever it goes ahead. I hope he doesn't put out a team with too many young players. Players I would like to see back are Morley, Moran, O'Donoghue maybe Maher, Darran, Griffin. I also think Paul Geaney should be rested as it hasn't been happening for him. He has been mostly surrounded by young players and maybe that made it too easy for defences to concentrate on him. A break would do him good. If Donaghy were to appear it would add a bit of spice to the cauldron (unlikely thought it is). This is the exact opposite that should happen. This game is not the be all and end all. It is about learning and the young players learning. We have tried the old faces time and time again and we have not won. We will never know how good our youth is until we let them loose against the very best. Everyone wanted the young players playing in the league before the league and now after 2 wins and 2 losses (and not bad ones in my opinion) you want to bin the youth and go back to the old guard? This is cowardly and short sighted and talking about short sighted I think our young guns will do better against Dublin as it is football vs football and no mass defences and they will have the engines and pace to keep up with the Dubs. We could do with a bit of midfield backup for this game.
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Post by Deise Exile on Feb 27, 2018 22:06:47 GMT
Another big test awaits. I would like to see Casey start. Hopefully Geaney and Shanahan are fit. Not sure Casey is near good enough at this level
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Post by Deise Exile on Feb 27, 2018 22:24:49 GMT
A few of the heavy weights should be brought back for the Dublin game when ever it goes ahead. I hope he doesn't put out a team with too many young players. Players I would like to see back are Morley, Moran, O'Donoghue maybe Maher, Darran, Griffin. I also think Paul Geaney should be rested as it hasn't been happening for him. He has been mostly surrounded by young players and maybe that made it too easy for defences to concentrate on him. A break would do him good. If Donaghy were to appear it would add a bit of spice to the cauldron (unlikely thought it is). This is the exact opposite that should happen. This game is not the be all and end all. It is about learning and the young players learning. We have tried the old faces time and time again and we have not won. We will never know how good our youth is until we let them loose against the very best. Everyone wanted the young players playing in the league before the league and now after 2 wins and 2 losses (and not bad ones in my opinion) you want to bin the youth and go back to the old guard? This is cowardly and short sighted and talking about short sighted I think our young guns will do better against Dublin as it is football vs football and no mass defences and they will have the engines and pace to keep up with the Dubs. The problem here is not the young players. It is the lack of an apparent tactic with regard to coherent defending. What we need to see more than anything in the remaining games is evidence of a defensive plan coupled with quick counterattack where kick passing is utilised to maximum effect and the ball is delivered quickly to our inside forward line. A return to Darran Maher donaghy at this stage is not the answer. A thought occurred to me today. This could be the year Tipp footballers win the Munster championship.
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Post by Deise Exile on Feb 27, 2018 22:28:35 GMT
Any chance the game will be pushed to Sunday or cancelled entirely this weekend
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Post by kerryboy83 on Feb 27, 2018 22:32:09 GMT
I also heard this evening that if it’s not playable Saturday, it could be played Sunday.
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Post by fealeside on Feb 27, 2018 22:44:28 GMT
There is a massive issue with defence and this has been a problem for 3 years or more at this stage no matter what personnel are playing there. I would agree with an earlier poster and also with Ger Power on Terrace Talk last night. Lads like Maher, Young, Walsh and Donaghy are not the answer (this is obvious based on the last two years) we need to stick with these young lads now and let them develop. I would hope that Gavin Crowley will be back soon. Does anyone know what the story with Gavin White is? I'd love to see him get a crack at it.
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Feb 28, 2018 5:38:24 GMT
It's good for Kerry to come into this game being written off. I think it will turn out to be a good contest, whenever it gets played (I think it might still happen on saturday as there are some indications of a quick thaw moving in on friday. However that thaw may be of no use to people travelling from Kerry unless they come around completely along the coast!)
I'd like to see Gavin try out some of our younger lads who haven't had much game-time yet. He will of course want to beat Kerry after last year's final and because this game is in Croker (no, yis won't get me to say "at home"!). I think given Croker is always a fast pitch and the Dublin players won't be at their summer level of conditioning it's to Kerry's advantage to go with the speediest team they can, even if that means more youth/more inexperience/less physically bulked/conditioned players. If you look at the teams that did best against Dublin in the last couple of years it has always been pace, and moving the ball super quick, and getting back super quick. Monaghan in the league game is the template but Kerry will need a blue-chip forward to really nail everything to win.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 28, 2018 9:04:37 GMT
The worst of the weather wont hit till Friday. Twill have to be an epic thaw for this game to go ahead
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Post by jackiel on Feb 28, 2018 9:35:48 GMT
I really cant see the match being played on Sat whatever about Sunday. We've had about 3 inches of snow here and the whole place is shut down and they're telling us the worst is to come tomorrow. Nobody going to work(except me & hubby off our road it seems), schools shut etc. The pitch itself might be fine but the access to and from stadium could be the issue.
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Post by buck02 on Feb 28, 2018 9:43:34 GMT
I really cant see the match being played on Sat whatever about Sunday. We've had about 3 inches of snow here and the whole place is shut down and they're telling us the worst is to come tomorrow. Nobody going to work(except me & hubby off our road it seems), schools shut etc. The pitch itself might be fine but the access to and from stadium could be the issue. Jackiel could you get onto the head steward and tell them to encourage an early decision on this. I need to cancel the hotel 48 hours beforehand or I pay full whack!
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Post by jackiel on Feb 28, 2018 9:57:29 GMT
Ah buck if only I had the influence. I know exactly how you feel, was in the same boat last week with talk of a possible move from Tralee to Killarney.
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Post by ruralgaa on Feb 28, 2018 10:50:23 GMT
How long is Gavin Crowley out for does anyone know? Good question? And where is Tadhg Morley too? Gavin broke a wrist playing in the Tralee IT Sigerson game up in Belfast. Morley has a groin problem. Probably won't see him until Kildare or Tyrone games.
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