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Post by dc84 on Feb 28, 2018 10:59:17 GMT
Its fairly rough in the capital today if this keeps going for the next two days it would be madness to play the game from a h+s point of view
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Post by Jigz84 on Feb 28, 2018 11:03:38 GMT
Surely Killian Spillane will start at least one of the remaining 3 games!
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Post by kerrygold on Feb 28, 2018 11:30:26 GMT
It's good for Kerry to come into this game being written off. I think it will turn out to be a good contest, whenever it gets played (I think it might still happen on saturday as there are some indications of a quick thaw moving in on friday. However that thaw may be of no use to people travelling from Kerry unless they come around completely along the coast!) I'd like to see Gavin try out some of our younger lads who haven't had much game-time yet. He will of course want to beat Kerry after last year's final and because this game is in Croker (no, yis won't get me to say "at home"!). I think given Croker is always a fast pitch and the Dublin players won't be at their summer level of conditioning it's to Kerry's advantage to go with the speediest team they can, even if that means more youth/more inexperience/less physically bulked/conditioned players. If you look at the teams that did best against Dublin in the last couple of years it has always been pace, and moving the ball super quick, and getting back super quick. Monaghan in the league game is the template but Kerry will need a blue-chip forward to really nail everything to win. Who has been appointed to ref this, McQuillan or Gough?
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Post by poppy7 on Feb 28, 2018 11:37:05 GMT
Ciaran Branigan is the ref
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Post by onlykerry on Feb 28, 2018 11:51:07 GMT
Looking back at the four league games so far the problem everyone is focusing on is our defence - stop for a moment and consider this. The two games we won we scored 2-12 and 1-13 from play - the games we lost we scored 0-6 and 0-5 from play.
This game is about outscoring your opponents and yes keeping your opponents score low is an important aspect of this but Kerry has always prided itself on being an attacking team with multiple scoring forwards. It has been what has separated us from the pack who typically rely on one or two attackers. We seem to have lost this in recent years with first JOD and more recently PG our scorers in chief. Within the county Dingle and Crokes have always impressed me by their ability to take scores from 35-40 mt with multiple players who can take a chance when available - last Sunday depressed me mostly due to the lack of ambition by players to try to score and instead run intricate training ground drills over and back the field. Have we lost sight of the objective - scoring more.
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Post by buck02 on Feb 28, 2018 12:39:29 GMT
Ciaran Branigan is the ref Connolly better mind himself so
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Post by kerrygold on Feb 28, 2018 12:54:20 GMT
Ciaran Branigan is the ref Connolly better mind himself so This brings "toeing the line" to whole new level!
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Post by gamechanger10 on Feb 28, 2018 12:58:03 GMT
Lads I’d definitely cancel the hotel bookings before you pass the relevant free cancellation deadline. This game will almost certainly be cancelled, the city is going to basically shut down on Thursday and Friday and the temperatures for both Saturday and Sunday are unlikely to facilitate the required thaw needed to proceed. There will be so many cancellations of hotels that the rooms should be there for late bookings even if they decide to green light the game late on Friday or Saturday if they play it on Sunday. Personally I’m provisionally booking for the 10th.
Two things Eamon should try to get in before the championship, one is a heart to heart with Thomas 0 Sé and the other is a visit to Petmania to buy a lead and muzzle for Liam Hassett.
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Post by glengael on Feb 28, 2018 13:03:56 GMT
Its fairly rough in the capital today if this keeps going for the next two days it would be madness to play the game from a h+s point of view Yes, it is just a game and can be re-fixed. Yes that is an inconvenience and may cost people money but such is life. It doesn't always run smooth and safety is more important than any sporting fixture. What has been most dispiriting for a long time now has been the seeming inability to learn and have any plan for the future. Regardless of the personnel available, there is no sign of learning from what has gone before and trying something different. It is undisputed that our defence parts like the Red Sea when teams run at them. It was there in Killarney v Donegal and lo and behold, nothing has changed 3 games later. The lateral handpass carry on depresses me and that is not just an issue under the current reigme either. Paul Geaney did not look tuned in at all on Sunday and that happens. It is just that he has now become so central to our attack that I think his efforts have a big bearing on those around him.
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Post by dc84 on Feb 28, 2018 13:10:45 GMT
Looking back at the four league games so far the problem everyone is focusing on is our defence - stop for a moment and consider this. The two games we won we scored 2-12 and 1-13 from play - the games we lost we scored 0-6 and 0-5 from play. This game is about outscoring your opponents and yes keeping your opponents score low is an important aspect of this but Kerry has always prided itself on being an attacking team with multiple scoring forwards. It has been what has separated us from the pack who typically rely on one or two attackers. We seem to have lost this in recent years with first JOD and more recently PG our scorers in chief. Within the county Dingle and Crokes have always impressed me by their ability to take scores from 35-40 mt with multiple players who can take a chance when available - last Sunday depressed me mostly due to the lack of ambition by players to try to score and instead run intricate training ground drills over and back the field. Have we lost sight of the objective - scoring more. Agree even though we have actually scored more this year than the corresponding games last year 3.61 vs 4.50. We have also conceded more goals 7.50 vs 4.50 last year.i think the addition of the two young lads SOS and DC have bumped up our scoring particularly as regards frees
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Post by boots on Feb 28, 2018 13:27:08 GMT
Has anybody else noticed, and apologies if this has been previously dissected on here, but our county chairman seems like an active part of the senior management set-up. He was like chief communications officer to Eamon Fitzmaurice on the sideline last weekend, as he was the previous week. I’m not sure if wearing an earpiece and carrying messages via walkie talkie on behalf of management is the most appropriate role for the chairman of the board. I would prefer if he was slightly more detached from that management team and allowed himself the space to judge them accordingly as opposed to being stuck in the middle of the fight with them. Maybe it’s not a big deal, but just my opinion. Chiefs should be chiefs, and let the Indians to themselves.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 28, 2018 13:45:02 GMT
He will of course want to beat Kerry after last year's final and because this game is in Croker (no, yis won't get me to say "at home"!). Where will Dublin be playing their home games in the Super 8s?
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Post by dc84 on Feb 28, 2018 13:54:09 GMT
He will of course want to beat Kerry after last year's final and because this game is in Croker (no, yis won't get me to say "at home"!). Where will Dublin be playing their home games in the Super 8s? Think this will be gas later in the year when you think about it how many counties can actually accomadate the dubs? By my count its 2 in ulster, 2 in connacht and 4 in munster of whom limerick wont be there.so if kildare, meath,roscommon,tyrone donegal etc are supposed to play the dubs at home what happens???
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 28, 2018 14:01:30 GMT
Where will Dublin be playing their home games in the Super 8s? Think this will be gas later in the year when you think about it how many counties can actually accomadate the dubs? By my count its 2 in ulster, 2 in connacht and 4 in munster of whom limerick wont be there.so if kildare, meath,roscommon,tyrone donegal etc are supposed to play the dubs at home what happens??? Let us all have our home games in Croke Park. Dublin can then play all their away games in Croke Park and play all their home games away in Croke Park too. If you think about it, Dublin never play at home!
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Post by dc84 on Feb 28, 2018 14:06:31 GMT
It will happen ive no doubt!
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Post by kerrygold on Feb 28, 2018 14:13:18 GMT
Looking at the 1 OC news it is hard to see this game going ahead. Red alerts for Leinster & Munster tomorrow and Friday.
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Post by kerrygold on Feb 28, 2018 14:15:27 GMT
Where will Dublin be playing their home games in the Super 8s? Think this will be gas later in the year when you think about it how many counties can actually accomadate the dubs? By my count its 2 in ulster, 2 in connacht and 4 in munster of whom limerick wont be there.so if kildare, meath,roscommon,tyrone donegal etc are supposed to play the dubs at home what happens??? Thurles or Limerick should be designated for Dublin's third game in the interest of fairness. I.e. one game in Croke Park in the Super 8s like everyone else.
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Post by dc84 on Feb 28, 2018 14:46:33 GMT
Agree all the dubs i know would love that be like 2001 all over again
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Post by sullyschoice on Feb 28, 2018 14:47:52 GMT
All our club league games have already been called off for the weekend.
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Post by jackiel on Feb 28, 2018 16:07:08 GMT
I got a text earlier to confirm my availability to steward for Saturday in light of adverse conditions around the country. They haven't given up on it just yet.
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Post by pillar on Feb 28, 2018 16:33:52 GMT
Looking at the weather forecast I think Sunday will be an option for them as well
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Post by greengold35 on Feb 28, 2018 18:41:34 GMT
Looking at the weather forecast I think Sunday will be an option for them as well I was talking to a county board official today and they are expecting a postponement to Sat 10th!
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Post by buck02 on Feb 28, 2018 18:59:45 GMT
All League of Ireland games for the weekend were cancelled today. Some rugby match fixed for Friday was cancelled today.
And the GAA are waiting until Friday to make the call?
Just goes to show that trying to shove 7 rounds of the league into 9 weekends in January, February and March aint the greatest idea.
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Post by An Bradán on Feb 28, 2018 22:56:21 GMT
Can't go ahead surely.
Pitch might be fine but dodgy for spectators...h/s must come into it.
If it can't go ahead the Dubs should have to forfeit home venue.....sure there's no frost or snow here in The Kingdom.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 1, 2018 7:29:52 GMT
Can't go ahead surely. Pitch might be fine but dodgy for spectators...h/s must come into it. If it can't go ahead the Dubs should have to forfeit home venue.....sure there's no frost or snow here in The Kingdom. Is there no snow at home? Plenty of it here in enemy territory just over the border.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Mar 1, 2018 8:57:48 GMT
I'm about ten mins from Croker and the snow on the ground is heavy at the moment so I'd be expecting this game to be pulled if the poor weather continues into tomorrow
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Post by Kingdomson on Mar 1, 2018 10:14:21 GMT
Good question? And where is Tadhg Morley too? Gavin broke a wrist playing in the Tralee IT Sigerson game up in Belfast. Morley has a groin problem. Probably won't see him until Kildare or Tyrone games. Thanks for the feedback ruralgaa . A broken wrist for Gavin Crowley – ouch! This means quite a long healing process usually. It’s a shame, as Gavin looked quite a good starting prospect for Kerry this year. I wish him a speedy recovery.
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Post by peanuts on Mar 1, 2018 10:41:24 GMT
All League of Ireland games for the weekend were cancelled today. Some rugby match fixed for Friday was cancelled today. And the GAA are waiting until Friday to make the call? Just goes to show that trying to shove 7 rounds of the league into 9 weekends in January, February and March aint the greatest idea. I think they were right to wait until tomorrow to be honest. If they made the decision too early and there was a sudden change in temperatures and it turned to rain instead of snow then we'd all be giving out about them cancelling too early. Having said all that it certainly looks like the game won't go ahead with the amount of snow that has fallen in the east of the country. Looks like we'll all be stuck indoors with no sports to watch.
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Post by jackiel on Mar 1, 2018 10:59:28 GMT
There's club camogie finals scheduled for Sunday so it cant be played in Croke Park then.
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Post by buck02 on Mar 1, 2018 11:10:58 GMT
All League of Ireland games for the weekend were cancelled today. Some rugby match fixed for Friday was cancelled today. And the GAA are waiting until Friday to make the call? Just goes to show that trying to shove 7 rounds of the league into 9 weekends in January, February and March aint the greatest idea. I think they were right to wait until tomorrow to be honest. If they made the decision too early and there was a sudden change in temperatures and it turned to rain instead of snow then we'd all be giving out about them cancelling too early. Having said all that it certainly looks like the game won't go ahead with the amount of snow that has fallen in the east of the country. Looks like we'll all be stuck indoors with no sports to watch. I agree to a certain extent. The problem is for the Kerry team and management really. They will have arrangements in place for certain type of training, for travel, accommodation etc based on the game being on Saturday evening. Telling them Friday afternoon that the game the day after is off is very late.
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