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Post by kerryman99 on Feb 17, 2018 21:55:14 GMT
Up Kerry
Fancy 4/5 changes from named team and the win also.
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Post by sullyschoice on Feb 18, 2018 0:27:06 GMT
They are a business. That's what businesses do. If RTE didn't see a few quid of a return from showing GAA matches they wouldn't. Tg4 will not invest in massive coverage unless it's worth their while. You are arguing with a civil servant who is used to seeing money pumped down a black hole with little or no regard from where it came from or if there will be a return. My initial post about the €40m a year spent on TG4 was tongue in cheek. Back to tomorrow, its hard to see a Kerry win with the amount of changes from the first two games. Hopefully a few fringe lads will challenge for spots on the 34 come the summer. Having been employed in Public Service all my life I am well accustomed to wastage. Though there has been plenty of wastage in Private sector too with different consequences. I just feel the bias against Sky is predominantly because they are UK based. I don't think the Sky deal will last long term because I dont think they will achieve critical mass. Money will talk. No international appeal as the market here is small. Setanta and Eir don't stoke such a reaction. I wouldn't give a penny to Eir for personal reasons. Anyway I am.not going to bog this thread down with this topic any longer. Looking forward to a handy spin up the road tomorrow.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Feb 18, 2018 0:39:35 GMT
You are arguing with a civil servant who is used to seeing money pumped down a black hole with little or no regard from where it came from or if there will be a return. My initial post about the €40m a year spent on TG4 was tongue in cheek. Back to tomorrow, its hard to see a Kerry win with the amount of changes from the first two games. Hopefully a few fringe lads will challenge for spots on the 34 come the summer. Having been employed in Public Service all my life I am well accustomed to wastage. Though there has been plenty of wastage in Private sector too with different consequences. I just feel the bias against Sky is predominantly because they are UK based. I don't think the Sky deal will last long term because I dont think they will achieve critical mass. Money will talk. No international appeal as the market here is small. Setanta and Eir don't stoke such a reaction. I wouldn't give a penny to Eir for personal reasons. Anyway I am.not going to bog this thread down with this topic any longer. Looking forward to a handy spin up the road tomorrow. Setanta and Eir are hardly Irish companies either. To me Irish sports and Irish athletes should be promoted on our public television stations. That is the role of a national broadcaster in my opinion. Not to spend millions on foreign soaps, sports with no irish involvement and such.
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Post by Deise Exile on Feb 18, 2018 7:49:40 GMT
Having been employed in Public Service all my life I am well accustomed to wastage. Though there has been plenty of wastage in Private sector too with different consequences. I just feel the bias against Sky is predominantly because they are UK based. I don't think the Sky deal will last long term because I dont think they will achieve critical mass. Money will talk. No international appeal as the market here is small. Setanta and Eir don't stoke such a reaction. I wouldn't give a penny to Eir for personal reasons. Anyway I am.not going to bog this thread down with this topic any longer. Looking forward to a handy spin up the road tomorrow. Setanta and Eir are hardly Irish companies either. To me Irish sports and Irish athletes should be promoted on our public television stations. That is the role of a national broadcaster in my opinion. Not to spend millions on foreign soaps, sports with no irish involvement and such. About the most coherent statement made on this topic. Now onto today. I'm nervous that were are down to the bone for today. That said even a second or third string should always fancy ourselves against Monaghan. They are a seriously ordinary outfit with one or two very talented outfit. In latter years always dogged and well organised. They will seriously test the young lady today. Ciarrai abu
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Post by Deise Exile on Feb 18, 2018 7:51:10 GMT
Too early! Swop second outfit for players!
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Post by kerryexile on Feb 18, 2018 9:12:30 GMT
I agree with the description dogged with a couple that are very talented, The thing about Monahan is that they seem to value their division 1 status very much, that early season games with Kerry, Dublin etc. are vital preparation for the championship. The doggedness comes from wanting to hold on to it. The league is the first championship and not just preparation for summer championship.
What ever selection Kerry puts out today they can win but win or lose it will be valuable experience for young players.
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Post by wayupnorth on Feb 18, 2018 9:19:04 GMT
Too early! Swop second outfit for players! And who is the "young lady" who will be tested? 😉 The editing feature is very useful. It has saved my own blushes many times!
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Post by wayupnorth on Feb 18, 2018 9:21:47 GMT
Wet weather forecast at Inniskeen throughout the match. Bring lots of waterproofs and brollys (not Joe!)
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Post by Deise Exile on Feb 18, 2018 9:51:39 GMT
Too early! Swop second outfit for players! And who is the "young lady" who will be tested? 😉 The editing feature is very useful. It has saved my own blushes many times! Good one!!
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Post by kerrygold on Feb 18, 2018 10:27:51 GMT
You are arguing with a civil servant who is used to seeing money pumped down a black hole with little or no regard from where it came from or if there will be a return. My initial post about the €40m a year spent on TG4 was tongue in cheek. Back to tomorrow, its hard to see a Kerry win with the amount of changes from the first two games. Hopefully a few fringe lads will challenge for spots on the 34 come the summer. Having been employed in Public Service all my life I am well accustomed to wastage. Though there has been plenty of wastage in Private sector too with different consequences. I just feel the bias against Sky is predominantly because they are UK based. I don't think the Sky deal will last long term because I dont think they will achieve critical mass. Money will talk. No international appeal as the market here is small. Setanta and Eir don't stoke such a reaction. I wouldn't give a penny to Eir for personal reasons. Anyway I am.not going to bog this thread down with this topic any longer. Looking forward to a handy spin up the road tomorrow. Totally irrelevant to the majority of the population who don't have Sky whether Sky is a UK or Chineese company or some other!
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 18, 2018 13:16:22 GMT
Talk of the unstoppable force meeting the immovable object, Pay Per View will have players demand Pay Per Play.
Player commitment is gone beyond beyond at this stage so the GAA as a community is sailing into headwinds, not all of it’s own doing.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Feb 18, 2018 13:24:28 GMT
So back to the game: who do we think will come in and who will go out? Was told by someone in the know that the players asked to play so maybe Barry and O'Sullivan will play. Would love to see Clifford and O'Shea back and sure they will feature at some point if they are fit and travelling.
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Post by diego on Feb 18, 2018 13:38:41 GMT
Game being shown last on the bill today at 5.10pm on TG4.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Feb 18, 2018 14:29:24 GMT
Brendan O'Sullivan and Peter Crowley in midfield
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Feb 18, 2018 14:29:46 GMT
David Clifford and Sean O'Shea on the bench.
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Post by inforthebreaks on Feb 18, 2018 14:30:15 GMT
Brendan Sullivan and Peter Crowley in for the two boys at midfield
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Feb 18, 2018 14:33:54 GMT
Sean O'Shea at CHF for Casey
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Post by The16thMan on Feb 18, 2018 14:56:04 GMT
22 minutes in and I've nearly heard enough. 1-08 to 0-04 down. Getting to the stage where its disheartening to listen to.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Feb 18, 2018 15:19:26 GMT
Management again go with the wrong team, slightly forced by injuries and such, but tactically they are doing the wrong thing as well. No midfield at all yet we lob it in high to a non existing midfield giving Monaghan easy ball to win. Playing one man in the full forward line, despite Monaghan having the sweeper and numbers in their own half, and Kerry's ball winners not getting the ball to Geaney. Kerry throwing players behind the ball despite Savage, Burns and Keane not being known for their defending. It only crowds the Kerry half of the pitch, but realistically none of them will trouble McManus or McCarron and it makes life harder on the Kerry backs. A 6 point deficit is flattering us. A Kerry team with speed and stamina so why can't they do the smart thing and use that? I hear Maurice Fitz is not in Inniskeen. Last time out in Mayo Sheehy and Maurice sat in the stand with Hassett and Eamon running the show. Makes me wonder is this management team working together at all and if they actually notice what is happening on the pitch?
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Post by onlykerry on Feb 18, 2018 16:12:51 GMT
Summary of Radio K view on game - Kerry very poor in first half with baffling tactics. Good second half with some terrible decisions by ref throughput- penalty was a bad call, bottled cards to players already on a card and did not give blatant frees to Kerry.
For those at the game - what was it like in the flesh.
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Post by trevor73 on Feb 18, 2018 16:13:13 GMT
Inept tactically the first half. Some turn around the second half. We didn’t capitalise on the extra man. The refereeing was incompetent to say the least
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Post by decondd2 on Feb 18, 2018 17:19:06 GMT
Inept tactically the first half. Some turn around the second half. We didn’t capitalise on the extra man. The refereeing was incompetent to say the least Referee was *e for both sides to be fair. Monaghan got a few extra ones but when we were chasing the game we got some awful soft ones. Then after Clifford was punched in the gut the decisions went to Monagahan again. Monaghan's 4th point looked clearly wide from the terrace as well. No point moaning though. Our own ineptitude cost us several scores in the first half. Awful kickouts, pickups off the ground and pushes in the back. Plenty of positives. Burns and O'Shea are well able for this level. Clifford with a few months more training in his legs will be crucial for us. Eanna O'Connor was a huge improvement over Brendan O'Sullivan around the middle. Paul Murphy and Stephen O'Brien put in a huge shift. Crowley had a huge amount of running to do as well. Fair play to Monaghan. Really sharp in the first half and built up a lead that we couldn't bring back. One point in the second half they worked from their own endline up the field for a great score.
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Post by southward on Feb 18, 2018 17:24:17 GMT
Inept tactically the first half. Some turn around the second half. We didn’t capitalise on the extra man. The refereeing was incompetent to say the least Referee was *e for both sides to be fair. Monaghan got a few extra ones but when we were chasing the game we got some awful soft ones. Then after Clifford was punched in the gut the decisions went to Monagahan again. Monaghan's 4th point looked clearly wide from the terrace as well.No point moaning though. Our own ineptitude cost us several scores in the first half. Awful kickouts, pickups off the ground and pushes in the back. Plenty of positives. Burns and O'Shea are well able for this level. Clifford with a few months more training in his legs will be crucial for us. Eanna O'Connor was a huge improvement over Brendan O'Sullivan around the middle. Paul Murphy and Stephen O'Brien put in a huge shift. Crowley had a huge amount of running to do as well. Fair play to Monaghan. Really sharp in the first half and built up a lead that we couldn't bring back. One point in the second half they worked from their own endline up the field for a great score. Just watching it on the box now. Yep, definitely wide. Terrible call.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 18, 2018 17:25:27 GMT
That was one dirty day, It's a very risky exercise going short on every kickout but when you have no midfield I'm not surprised. Very lucky to have only been 6 down at HT. Second half was a massive improvement and we could have taken a point. The strike on clifford was cowardly and I was fairly animated on the terrace when I saw it. Brendan O Sullivan and Barry John are not starters in my opinion. I would be very optimistic after that second half it was a serious dog fight and will stand to the young lads. Paul Murphy was my MOTM for Kerry heart of a lion.
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Post by southward on Feb 18, 2018 17:39:03 GMT
Wrong call on the penalty. Actually a very good save. Couldn't really blame the ref from where he was though.
Andrew Barry looks terribly off the pace. Big Brendan not doing his chances any good either.
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Post by dano on Feb 18, 2018 17:54:23 GMT
the first half sounded depressing on RK. Mistake after mistake. Redemption in the second but unable/unlucky not to clinch at least a draw. Good time of the year to get a wakeup call, Onwards to the Galway match and back to winning ways. EF should have a more settled panel now with the College games over. I'd love to see a a solid home win the next day then on to Croker. Paul Murphy and Ronan Shanahan will be Summer starters and Eanna OConnor made a claim today too when he came on.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 18:00:08 GMT
Horrible day. First half pretty awful. No midfield to speak of. Bad call on the penalty and it looked it live also Good spirit shown not to collapse. There is a way to lose and we did it the right way today, Thought backs were excellent 2nd half, really gave a platform but overall Monaghan did deserve it
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Post by hatchetman on Feb 18, 2018 18:12:51 GMT
the first half sounded depressing on RK. Mistake after mistake. Redemption in the second but unable/unlucky not to clinch at least a draw. Good time of the year to get a wakeup call, Onwards to the Galway match and back to winning ways. EF should have a more settled panel now with the College games over. I'd love to see a a solid home win the next day then on to Croker. Paul Murphy and Ronan Shanahan will be Summer starters and Eanna OConnor made a claim today too when he came on. Paul Murphy to make the championship team! That's a brave call! (Insert sarcastic emoji here)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 18:42:07 GMT
Poor performance overall. The line clueless. All over the place in the first half. Again it's only February but we have the same old problem when teams run at us. No answer for it. It looked like they hadn't trained in weeks the way they started that game.
A big improvement needed next time.
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Post by onlykerry on Feb 18, 2018 19:19:45 GMT
The main objective for the line is to look at lads and see the raw material we have for the summer - need a settled team/squad before they tackle the many obvious issues. For now it is great to see the affort and talent coming through - biggest worry is that EF will not stick with them when we get to the summer. Critical that he holds his nerve and gives the obvious talent a chance - and yes we need to sort some very apparent deficiencies with regard to tactics and structure.
Four minutes injury time called today - 4-45 played. Unfortunately only about 1-40 of football in that time - this malaise of running down the clock and particularly delaying frees needs to be addressed.
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