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Post by Aodhan on Aug 29, 2017 22:16:40 GMT
Heard David Shaw signed an Aussie contract, could one of the Croke's lads share some light on this?
What another loss if true.
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Post by statistician on Aug 30, 2017 11:17:35 GMT
Eamon Fitzmaurice' Championship Record:
2013 Game 1: Killarney - Won Kerry 2-19 Tipperary 0-08 Game 2: Killarney - Won Kerry 4-21 Waterford 1-04 Game 3: Killarney - Won Division 1 Opposition Kerry 1-16 Cork 0-17 Game 4: Croke Park - Won Kerry 0-15 Cavan 0-09 Game 5: Croke Park - Lost - Division 1 Opposition Kerry 3-11 Dublin 3-18 2014: Game 6: Cuasack Park Ennis - Won Clare 1-13 Kerry 1-17 Game 7: Páirc Uí Chaoimh Cork - Won - Division 1 Opposition Cork 0-12 Kerry 0-24 Game 8: Croke Park - Won Kerry 1-20 Galway 2-10 Game 9: Croke Park - Drew - Division 1 Opposition Kerry 1-16 Mayo 1-16 Game 10: Gaelic Grounds Limerick - Won (AET) - Division 1 Opposition Kerry 3-16 (3-11) Mayo 3-16 (3-11) Game 11: Croke Park - Won Kerry 2-09 Donegal 0-12 2015: Game 12: Semple Stadium Tipperary - Won Tipperary 2-08 Kerry 2-14 Game 13: Killarney - Drew - Division 1 Opposition Kerry 2-15 Cork 3-12 Game 14: Killarney - Won - Division 1 Opposition Kerry 1-11 Cork 1-06 Game 15: Croke Park - Won Kerry 7-16 Kildare 0-10 Game 16: Croke Park - Won - Division 1 Opposition Kerry 1-18 Tyrone 1-11 Game 17: Croke Park - Lost - Division 1 Opposition Kerry 0-09 Dublin 0-12 2016: Game 18: Killarney - Won Kerry 2-23 Clare 0-17 Game 19: Killarney - Won Kerry 3-17 Tipperary 2-10 Game 20: Croke Park - Won Kerry 2-16 Clare 0-11 Game 21: Croke Park - Lost - Division 1 Opposition Kerry 2-14 Dublin 0-22 2017: Game 22: Cuasack Park Ennis - Won Kerry 1-18 Clare 1-12 Game 23: Killarney - Won Kerry 1-23 Cork 0-15 Game 24: Croke Park - Won Kerry 1-18 Galway 0-13 Game 25: Croke Park - Drew - Division 1 Opposition Kerry 2-14 Mayo 2-14 Game 26: Croke Park - Lost - Division 1 Opposition Kerry 0-17 Mayo 2-16 Played 26 Won 19 (1AET) Lost 4 Drew 3 (Techically 4)
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 30, 2017 12:14:36 GMT
Heard David Shaw signed an Aussie contract, could one of the Croke's lads share some light on this? What another loss if true. If true, he will be a huge loss.
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Post by Kingdomson on Sept 4, 2017 19:08:09 GMT
www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/dick-clerkin-eamonn-fitzmaurice-must-depart-before-coup-is-staged-in-the-kingdom-36096730.htmlDick Clerkin: Eamonn Fitzmaurice must depart before coup is staged in the Kingdom Dick Clerkin September 4 2017 5:00 PM To stick or twist... When the time comes for a manager to have that internal debate on whether to stay or hand in his badge, it must be a torturous decision. As a player contemplating retirement, it can be a relatively straightforward, if somewhat emotional, call, as the body starts to show signs of wear and tear. Managers can obviously go on significantly longer; that is until the decision is taken out of your hands. Deep in the heartlands of Kerry, conversations regarding the future of Eamonn Fitzmaurice will be fervent. Similar debates, as they have done for much longer, will rage in mid-Ulster as Mickey Harte once again attempts to fend of the Tyrone mob who want a change of their sideline guard. Leaving my northern neighbours aside for the time being, what then is the right course of action in Kerry? For me, it is quite straightforward. Eamonn should depart the scene, of his own accord, with his head held high. Observing both of the Kerry-Mayo games, I saw enough to suggest this is a Kingdom team in temporary decline - with little Fitzmaurice can do to stop the slide. Ahead of any bounce on the back of underage transitions over the next few years, he simply won't have the players capable of meeting the high expectations in Kerry. To stay and fight against the tide would only serve to lesson his noteworthy achievements. Five Munster titles in a row, a feat last accomplished back in the halcyon days of the 1970s; an All-Ireland win in 2014 and defeated finalists the following year; a league title this year. Then there is their contribution to two of the most memorable games of our generation: Against Dublin in the 2013 semi-final classic in Croke Park, and against Mayo in the 2014 semi-final replay epic in Limerick. Not that all of that will count for much in some minds, as the anger and frustration following the manner of this year's exit courses heavily through the Kingdom's veins. One must also consider that all of the above was achieved during a tenure that saw the gradual departure of the all-conquering class of the Noughties. It's a trend likely to continue this winter. As the greats of a previous generation depart, the harsh reality is that those who have followed have struggled to fill their shoes. Kerry simply don't have the depth of talent at senior level they once did. With fewer real contenders than ever for Sam Maguire glory, they have seldom looked further away from the summit. Looking back on their 2014 All-Ireland victory, the charge of overachieving looks much more credible than what was once tolerated. From a dawn that has since proved false, heavy wore the crown for many of the 2014 team. Moran, O'Donoghue, Fitzgerald et al have struggled to maintain a consistently high standard of performance since. That Fitzmaurice would consider dropping O'Donoghue in place of extra defensive cover for the Mayo replay says as much about the 2014 Footballer of the Year's inconsistency as it does the Kerry chief's managerial acumen. Much has been made of Kerry's recent underage success, with a historic fourth All-Ireland minor title in a row beckoning. In this regard, expectation must be balanced with patience when assuming a straightforward transfer of power at senior level will follow such unprecedented success. Never has the gap between minor and senior grades been greater, with a physical competency a prerequisite accompaniment to any burgeoning talent. The Con O'Callaghans of this world are the exception to the norm, as the physicality and cynicism of the senior grade will generally quash the inherent skill of any undercooked youngster. Kerry's young Tom O'Sullivan found this out in Kerry's eventual defeat to Mayo, after Fitzmaurice handed him an unexpected championship debut. Arriving to the ground early to prepare for another day in front of the Sky Sports cameras, I came across the Kerry team strolling around an empty Croke Park, taking in what for many were now familiar surroundings. I was immediately drawn to an intense conversation between Kieran Donaghy and a fresh-faced youngster who was significantly less accustomed to the intimidating ground. Scrambling to the programme player pics, I quickly found his mugshot: Tom O'Sullivan, of the recent minor winning teams, was getting some pre-match pointers from one of the venue's most revered sons. While not named in the starting 15, it was clear Fitzmaurice was intent on throwing the talented wing-back on in an attempt to shore up their defensive frailties from the drawn game. Tom has a bright future, but it was clear from early on in the game he was still a few years away from being a Sam Maguire calibre player. Eamonn's decision in playing Tom spoke volumes about the weak hand he had to play. Fitzmaurice will be under intense scrutiny in his home county following his side's tame exit. When the dust settles, there should be a realisation that Eamonn achieved more than most would have managed with the players at his disposal. That being said, with five years under his belt, another few repeats of this year's disappointment would likely take the decision out of his hands. Like plenty of other successful managers, a return to the fold in a few years, after a well-earned sabbatical, should be the basis for an amicable departure. He has proven himself to be an astute manager on many occasions. In an era when good men are hard to find, any acrimonious split wouldn't serve Kerry well in the long term. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The title is quite misleading as there is no coup and Eamonn will be given time to decide himself. Other than the title, it's a solid enough article hard to disagree with most of it.
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Post by buck02 on Sept 4, 2017 19:59:01 GMT
It was on the website that Jack Connor has been ratified with a two year term as U20 manager which would indicate that Fitzy is staying on.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 20:45:14 GMT
John Crowley replaces Declan as a selector.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 6, 2017 11:24:52 GMT
Liam Kearns will probably be a strong contender to replace EF whenever a vacancy arises
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 6, 2017 11:57:13 GMT
Yes Liam Kearns must be a contender.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Sept 6, 2017 12:45:01 GMT
I'd be surprised if Kearns got the job- not that I dont think he should be a contender- but its rare that someone comes from outside the system.
I'd imagine if he ever wants to manager Kerry then what he needs to do is come back to Tralee- take over a relegated Stacks team and turn them around.
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Post by kerryexile on Sept 6, 2017 13:12:33 GMT
Firstly there is no vacancy and I respect Eamonn and all the effort he has put in and must say he he has had success.
If a vacancy were to arise I would love to see Liam Kearns getting it. As I’ve said before Jack O’Connor saw tactics as the only way to overcome Ulster teams. Eamonn arrived in management as a protégé of Jack’s. It is no surprise that sometimes fans feel bewildered by the roles given to players. Some of us old romantics might say not playing the “Kerry way”.
Kearns played under O’Dwyer. He is the only link to the Kerry style that prevailed before the Ulster contamination. With so many young players available he would be the ideal manager to take them forward.
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Post by greengold35 on Sept 6, 2017 14:07:23 GMT
I'd be surprised if Kearns got the job- not that I dont think he should be a contender- but its rare that someone comes from outside the system. I'd imagine if he ever wants to manager Kerry then what he needs to do is come back to Tralee- take over a relegated Stacks team and turn them around. Kearns has had some successes along the way but not sure if he would be the man to take over in the event of a vacancy - his tenure with Tipperary saw a lot of players opt out of the panel , many for " personal " reasons , a time which also saw another Kerry coach depart for " personal " reasons; there was a similar pattern a few years back in his time @ UL with a number of players, some of whom had worn jerseys @ under age for Kerry, being unavailable for selection. I cannot recall anything positive being said about his time in Rathmore either. Contenders for the job would be - Jack O'Connor, Pat O'Shea, Peter Keane and possibly Maurice Fitzgerald. I don't see any from outside the county.
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 6, 2017 16:53:16 GMT
Firstly there is no vacancy and I respect Eamonn and all the effort he has put in and must say he he has had success. If a vacancy were to arise I would love to see Liam Kearns getting it. As I’ve said before Jack O’Connor saw tactics as the only way to overcome Ulster teams. Eamonn arrived in management as a protégé of Jack’s. It is no surprise that sometimes fans feel bewildered by the roles given to players. Some of us old romantics might say not playing the “Kerry way”. Kearns played under O’Dwyer. He is the only link to the Kerry style that prevailed before the Ulster contamination. With so many young players available he would be the ideal manager to take them forward. Micko was the only Kerry manager to beat Tyrone in the '00s.
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Post by falveyb2k on Sept 6, 2017 18:05:37 GMT
I wouldn't like to see Kearns get the job. Limerick were notorius under him for targeting Kerry players off the ball, the gooch in particular. It happened again in the final against Tipp last year, gooch was caught late twice before he was caught late again resulting in a shoulder injury meaning he would miss the quarter final. I know we've had no angels ourselves but we've never gone to take a player out of the game either
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Post by buck02 on Sept 6, 2017 18:48:06 GMT
I would have been shocked a couple of weeks ago if Liam Kearns was brought in from outside the circle to take over as Kerry manager.
But now, with Jack getting the U20 job for 2018 and 2019 and it being unlikely that Fitzmaurice will stay on as senior manager for 2018 and 2019 (taking it to 7 years in charge), I wonder would powers that be decide to give somebody like Kearns a two year term. Knowing that Jack will be chomping at the bit to take over and win the 2020 All Ireland (and stop Dublins 6 in a row bid).
But from what I've heard about Kearns and from what we know about the way senior, U21 and minor managers are chosen I think its a massive long shot.
The ball is in Fitzmaurice's court and he has a big call to make.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 19:51:24 GMT
I cannot see what kearns would offer this Kerry team. His history is one of moral victories and it would feel like a regressive step.
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Post by mandad on Sept 6, 2017 20:30:45 GMT
When the County Board appoints a Team Manager there are no guarantees of success. There is an expectation that that man will take us to the top of the pack and supporters tend to get pretty upset when the performance doesn't match the promise. Talks of ‘change’ are never too low down the conversation and that’s the kind of talk I’ve been hearing in recent days. The feedback suggests that we need to make a change. But the question remains, change to what or to whom?"
What leaps out at me is that there are people that dislike any suggestion that Jack should be brought back to manage the young lads that, potentially, will be emerge from our minor successes of the past few years. As someone who sat through the u21 game in Ennis a few months back I’ve had to rethink some of my own beliefs and would now robustly disagree with any such appointment.
I get that Eamon has done a decent job in broad terms and has my respect for that. One Sam Maguire, one League, and five Munsters would be regarded as a decent return by most measures. But there is no denying has repeatedly done some questionable things with this team too. I’ve rarely seen a replay team so unprepared and uninspired in all my years of obsession with the Kerry football. It was almost like Eamon saying “Kelly, stand in goals, the rest of ye spread out a bit.” At least that’s how it looked to me from where I sat in the Hogan
Right now I can't get my hopes up about his ability to change ‘cause every year he disappoints. We have no idea how good this team can be with someone else leading the charge. In any case, we need a four or five year appointment to work with the transition panel, there is no room for uncertainty.
In Kerry, we have a fervent cultural faith in the inherent supremacy of our footballing ability. We need reassuring now and again too. Tim Murphy is a big solid man in more ways than one. He is the man entrusted with the responsibility to steer the Kerry ship in the right direction and now has a big call to make in the best interest of Kerry football.
Creidim go bhfuil na hainmhí ag éirí go giodamach arís! Sé mo thuairim.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Sept 6, 2017 21:31:13 GMT
I'd be surprised if Kearns got the job- not that I dont think he should be a contender- but its rare that someone comes from outside the system. I'd imagine if he ever wants to manager Kerry then what he needs to do is come back to Tralee- take over a relegated Stacks team and turn them around. Kearns has had some successes along the way but not sure if he would be the man to take over in the event of a vacancy - his tenure with Tipperary saw a lot of players opt out of the panel , many for " personal " reasons , a time which also saw another Kerry coach depart for " personal " reasons; there was a similar pattern a few years back in his time @ UL with a number of players, some of whom had worn jerseys @ under age for Kerry, being unavailable for selection. I cannot recall anything positive being said about his time in Rathmore either. Contenders for the job would be - Jack O'Connor, Pat O'Shea, Peter Keane and possibly Maurice Fitzgerald. I don't see any from outside the county. I dont know would Pat O'Shea be interested or available. There was fierce wrangling with the Munster council last time to let him coach Kerry in conjunction with his job. I think the only team he is allowed coach is his club team. Would he want it? He did two years, got two finals. Won one. In fairness he wasn't fondly regarded by lots of supporters during his time. Especially if you read the archive on this forum. He's a great coach in fairness and wound be happy if he got it in the event of any vacancy
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Post by beantownfan on Sept 6, 2017 22:34:31 GMT
Am I right in saying/thinking that EF is supposed to have one year left in his term? i.e. last year he agreed to stay on for two years with the senior squad? If that is the case we are in a peculiar position as clearly we need to have some changes in both the back room team and in the squad. It is tough for a man with one year left to implement such changes. For all the talk about Maurice et al on the side line, they really left themselves down for the replay, and you'd have to question the whole management team as a result.. To me it would seem that the Co. board need to have a plan of succession, if at all possible.. i.e. the man who will take over from EF to be lined up and for he to have some input on what goes on for the next 12 months. I am not sure Jack is our answer. There are lots of people on about Kerry needs him, but lets be frank. He was never known for his man management skills, dropping lads by text etc.. He came back in to the underage setup when the seams were bursting with new talent and he still only managed to win one Munster u21 with that group. Not winning the AI this year is a huge dot on his license as far as I'm concerned. If he couldn't get an u21 All Ireland out of that group what makes us so confident that he can come back in to the senior setup and get them to produce? From the outside it looks like we need a new physical trainer and possibly a few other replacements, I don't see how EF could get such people with just 1 year left.. Whom ever is brought in needs to be brought in with a longer term view..
My main hope is Mayo win the AI, and a case is made to Donie Buckley to come back into the current management team, with a view to a more prominent role once EF steps aside. Alas, I've a feeling Mayo may let us down :-)
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 6, 2017 23:03:38 GMT
After Donegal beat Kerry in 2012, it was clear that Kerry needed a change and a new voice and EF did that and put everything into it.
2013 and 2014 saw an upward curve and the all ireland in 2014 was as surprising as it was wonderful. It wouldnt have taken much to beat Dublin in 2015. The sideline made some poor decisions in team selection and substitutions but any other ref but Coldrick could have seem Kerry salvage the game.
Dublin were a bit better in 2016 than 2015 and a few poor calls by Gough diverted attention away from the fact that the gap was widening.
The league was won in 2017 but it just served to sharpen Dublins desire.
It seems to have come as a shock to a lot of people that Mayo beat Kerry in 2017.
Maybe the final will put this into perspective. Mayo are a serious outfit.
On the one hand i think we are where we were in 2012 and a new voice is needed but it would help to know who that voice will be before making up ones mind as to what is best.
On unfathomable substitutions which EF has become known for..... Well.... In the hurling final, Galway took off the captain and MOTM, David Burke at the same time that EF took off Donaghy in the drawn game. They was 5 mins played but Galway hung on....
It was madness to me to take off David Burke but victory papers over all of that.
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Post by hatchetman on Sept 6, 2017 23:12:48 GMT
I imagine that if Jack had stayed on with the minors and was going for 4 in a row the clamour for him to take over would be immense.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Sept 7, 2017 7:25:17 GMT
It says a lot about the management talent within the county that we see going back to two former managers in Jack and Pat O'Shea as our best options. Has any one else stood out in recent years within the county?
I have no problem if Eamonn wants to stay on. I think he should freshen up his backroom team. I would love to see Pat Flanagan back involved in the fitness. He had us well primed before. And even in 2015 he had Cork hopping off the ground in the Munster final. I don't know what his situation is with stacks.
I would get rid of Liam Hassett as well. As much for his eejitery on the side line than anything else. I think they miss someone like Murphy on the line who wasn't afraid to disagree with FitzMaurice.
And they need to get in some sort of defensive coach / tackle coach. And badly need to in the league etc have a plan A,B and C worked out and played with. So that if we decide to go to a sweeper etc at least the players have practiced it
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 7, 2017 7:49:01 GMT
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Sept 7, 2017 8:03:02 GMT
While I do agree with Marc to an extent- there were too many very obvious mistakes made.
1) Leaving the full back line as is 2) Starting Tom sullivan for his champ debut against probably the most physically powerful side in the country 3) Not having a proper kick out strategy 4) Dropping Jameso 5) Starting a clearly unfit Donnacha 6) Choosing again to start with essentially no half forward line- as none of them stay in position.
I'm still not out and out calling for Fitzmaurice's head but jeez thats a hell of a lot of mistakes to make in 1 match- especially when you've made nearly all the same mistakes the previous week and been lucky to get a draw.
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Post by Jigz84 on Sept 7, 2017 8:19:56 GMT
While I do agree with Marc to an extent- there were too many very obvious mistakes made. 1) Leaving the full back line as is 2) Starting Tom sullivan for his champ debut against probably the most physically powerful side in the country 3) Not having a proper kick out strategy 4) Dropping Jameso 5) Starting a clearly unfit Donnacha 6) Choosing again to start with essentially no half forward line- as none of them stay in position. I'm still not out and out calling for Fitzmaurice's head but jeez thats a hell of a lot of mistakes to make in 1 match- especially when you've made nearly all the same mistakes the previous week and been lucky to get a draw. Throw in the Dublin debacles of 2015 & 2016 on top of that and the case for him to be replaced outweighs the case for him to stay.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Sept 7, 2017 9:02:15 GMT
While I do agree with Marc to an extent- there were too many very obvious mistakes made. 1) Leaving the full back line as is 2) Starting Tom sullivan for his champ debut against probably the most physically powerful side in the country 3) Not having a proper kick out strategy 4) Dropping Jameso 5) Starting a clearly unfit Donnacha 6) Choosing again to start with essentially no half forward line- as none of them stay in position. I'm still not out and out calling for Fitzmaurice's head but jeez thats a hell of a lot of mistakes to make in 1 match- especially when you've made nearly all the same mistakes the previous week and been lucky to get a draw. Throw in the Dublin debacles of 2015 & 2016 on top of that and the case for him to be replaced outweighs the case for him to stay. The case for him to be replaced isnt that black and white- who are the other options? What changes does he plan to make, etc
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 7, 2017 9:06:38 GMT
The replacements options aren't great lads outside of the Jack & Pat O'Shea bubble. There is a distinct lack of people in the current management setup with hardcore management portfolios. Which means there is no natural successor in the current setup, surely a flawed situation? Should someone like Stephen Stack, with a management track record, be included for example next year if Eamonn stays on? Have we got enough defensive expertise in the current setup? Big decisions for Eamonn and Tim Murphy to make but I'm sure they will break the thing down and look at it in a positive and progressive way. I don't share the doom and gloom sentiment. Kerry are still very at the top table in my opinion. The game has moved on and has become about transitioning defence into attack in a coherent manner. The Dubs seemed to have played total football against Tyrone, but the question is, how good are Tyrone? Did Kerry attempt to play the percentage game in the drawn semi final with Mayo with a view to peaking in the final?
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 7, 2017 9:18:51 GMT
It would seem obvious to me that Colm Cooper should be brought on board asap.... The best football brain around, living in Killarney, gravitas coming out of his ears.... Similarly , Marc has lots to offer....
Those two could bring lots to offensive and defensive aspects...
I would be happy enough if EF stayed on for two years and those two came on board.
Things seem to have unravelled a bit when our former goalie Murph left the scene.
Basically young men with new thinking could help.
Colms article post the Mayo replay was very much on point in my view.
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 7, 2017 9:21:47 GMT
When the County Board appoints a Team Manager there are no guarantees of success. There is an expectation that that man will take us to the top of the pack and supporters tend to get pretty upset when the performance doesn't match the promise. Talks of ‘change’ are never too low down the conversation and that’s the kind of talk I’ve been hearing in recent days. The feedback suggests that we need to make a change. But the question remains, change to what or to whom?" What leaps out at me is that there are people that dislike any suggestion that Jack should be brought back to manage the young lads that, potentially, will be emerge from our minor successes of the past few years. As someone who sat through the u21 game in Ennis a few months back I’ve had to rethink some of my own beliefs and would now robustly disagree with any such appointment. I get that Eamon has done a decent job in broad terms and has my respect for that. One Sam Maguire, one League, and five Munsters would be regarded as a decent return by most measures. But there is no denying has repeatedly done some questionable things with this team too. I’ve rarely seen a replay team so unprepared and uninspired in all my years of obsession with the Kerry football. It was almost like Eamon saying “Kelly, stand in goals, the rest of ye spread out a bit.” At least that’s how it looked to me from where I sat in the Hogan Right now I can't get my hopes up about his ability to change ‘cause every year he disappoints. We have no idea how good this team can be with someone else leading the charge. In any case, we need a four or five year appointment to work with the transition panel, there is no room for uncertainty. In Kerry, we have a fervent cultural faith in the inherent supremacy of our footballing ability. We need reassuring now and again too. Tim Murphy is a big solid man in more ways than one. He is the man entrusted with the responsibility to steer the Kerry ship in the right direction and now has a big call to make in the best interest of Kerry football. Creidim go bhfuil na hainmhí ag éirí go giodamach arís! Sé mo thuairim. The writing was on the wall for the u21s as far back as the Munster campaign of 2016 as highlighted by some here if we take a look back through the achieves of this forum. Midfield was going to be a problem for this team, the subsequent reshuffling of the half back line to compensate for this midfield issue compounded the Ennis performance. You have to weigh Kerry's minor performance against Cork in Tralee at the start of the three in a row minor run and the Ennis blowout to fully judge Jack's credentials. That was the best exhibition of a coached team I have seen form a Kerry management team. Even the best cruise liner will run aground without an anchor, engine and captain. The Kerry u21 team of 2017 didn't have a midfield anchor and director of operations in that sector. It was always going to be a case of would the sum of the collective remaining be good enough to see the u21 deal out. It wasn't. I sat behind the Kerry dugout in Ennis, that game was over early, there was nothing that be done to get it back. Galway were in the zone, Kerry weren't.
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 7, 2017 9:25:31 GMT
It would seem obvious to me that Colm Cooper should be brought on board asap.... The best football brain around, living in Killarney, gravitas coming out of his ears.... Similarly , Marc has lots to offer.... Those two could bring lots to offensive and defensive aspects... I would be happy enough if EF stayed on for two years and those two came on board. Things seem to have unravelled a bit when our former goalie Murph left the scene. Basically young men with new thinking could help. Colms article post the Mayo replay was very much on point in my view. Interesting opinion, nothing came through in management terms from the '70s/80s Golden Generation, Paidi aside, it would be careless to let that happen again regarding the crew from the '00s.
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Post by Jo90 on Sept 7, 2017 9:40:33 GMT
It would seem obvious to me that Colm Cooper should be brought on board asap.... The best football brain around, living in Killarney, gravitas coming out of his ears.... Similarly , Marc has lots to offer.... Those two could bring lots to offensive and defensive aspects... I would be happy enough if EF stayed on for two years and those two came on board. Things seem to have unravelled a bit when our former goalie Murph left the scene. Basically young men with new thinking could help. Colms article post the Mayo replay was very much on point in my view. Interesting opinion, nothing came through in management terms from the '70s/80s Golden Generation, Paidi aside, it would be careless to let that happen again regarding the crew from the '00s. Ogie and Mickey Ned having their heads put on pikes despite not having decent players probably put the rest of them off. Nelligan was probably the next most likely.
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