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Post by greengold35 on Jul 30, 2017 19:56:52 GMT
No truth to the rummours about one of our forwards being injured that was flying around the weekend? Spillane said on the pre-match analysis Jameso was carrying an injury and hadn't trained much recently. So that is probably the rumour you heard about. He definitely did something in the Munster final before he went off. I thought he rolled his ankle but something definitely happened in that collision with a couple of Cork players in second half. He went off shortly after. All these injuries are worrying. I don't know if we'll have enough to win an All-Ireland without both Jameso and Paul Geaney firing fully. JO'D had damaged ribs from A vs B game last weekend- Killian also picked up a knock last week.
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Post by carthalawn on Jul 30, 2017 19:59:37 GMT
A lethargic performance from Kerry - Kelly, Murphy, Buckley and Star stood out. Buckley and an in-form Star provide great options for Kerry. Midfield did well without being spectacular - I believe Moran needed the match. If it's Mayo - Maher should start. I suspect 2/3 players from starting 15 will struggle to hold their places for the Semi. Nice to see Killian back, he could be key as late August looms. Not a game to over analyse. Plenty to work on.
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Post by fitz on Jul 30, 2017 21:27:41 GMT
Fionn was caught terribly for Ian Burke's and Galway's first goal chance. Unacceptable. Some redemption from block on Comer's shot. Shanahan would not have been caught in that position. I think Fionn is fine player ball in hand, but not strong enough defensively, physically or positionally. Punching ball in second half which is kamikaze play, not his fault because his lack of height constrained him. He's our weakest defender. Nothing personal, just cold analysis with the eyes.
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Post by tommynk on Jul 30, 2017 21:34:48 GMT
Fionn was caught terribly for Ian Burke's and Galway's first goal chance. Unacceptable. Some redemption from block on Comer's shot. Shanahan would not have been caught in that position. I think Fionn is fine player ball in hand, but not strong enough defensively, physically or positionally. Punching ball in second half which is kamikaze play, not his fault because his lack of height constrained him. He's our weakest defender. Nothing personal, just cold analysis with the eyes. Did his man score 4 points? Haven't received watched it yet so may be wrong .
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Post by bannerman on Jul 30, 2017 21:38:43 GMT
Poor team performance, is there any chance they were flogged in training this week. Completely off the pace in early stages. I think we could count on one hand amount fifty fifty balls that our full back won today. Half back line offered no protection. People asking return Shanahan but going by today's selection is Begley ahead him. We need get killian back into team Excellent performances from murphy, Kelly, donaghy, donnacadh, Buckley. Why was half fit donoghue left on for so long in a game like this. Surely a fully fit savage or keane better optiin
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2017 21:43:41 GMT
I think Killian will be close to starting next time out. Fionn is probably the most vulnerable based on today.
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Post by homerj on Jul 30, 2017 22:00:33 GMT
Youd swear we lost today or beat a division 4 side(who didnt hammer Donegal last weekend and beat Mayo earlier).
Unbelieveable amount of negativity around. Ya we were "poor". Ya they had 5 goal chances. Ya we were flat and static.
But ya. We won......by 8 points.
Job done.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Jul 30, 2017 22:17:26 GMT
I agree it's job done etc but would disagree with those that disregard the performance of some.
Fionn is a fine player but, is not a top class corner back and is ripe for the taking by a team intent on singling him out. You always feel there is a mistake in Mark Griffin as well. I thought enright was tidy..
Our half back line was decent enough. Peter had his hands full all game. Paul Murphy drove the team on in stretches and is fast developing in a clone of Tomas.
Midfield did well. Thought jack Barry had a fine game. Moran was ok.
The half forward line apart from johnny Buckley was so so. Mikey geaney got on a pile of ball but, didn't always use it wisely. I am a fan of donnachdha Walsh but think he has been poor this season. I know people say he gets through a pile of work etc but, you expect work rate from an inter county half forward.
Johnny Buckley was Kerry's leading light for a large spell of the second half. Got on the ball. Demanded possession and claimed some fine kick outs.
James was poor, no way of dressing it up. I wouldn't use injury as an excuse. If your fit enough to start then you can't blame injury. If management played an unfit player with the panel at their disposal then what does that say to the other squad members.
Donaghy rolled back the years. Only question is why didn't he stay in the full forward line for second half. Paul geaney was very good. Scored some crackers and his close control under pressure is very good.
Subs all did well. O'Brien mist be pushing for a start. Maher did very well too.
The pitch was a joke with all the slipping. Surely both sets of teams in both matches all couldn't have the wrong boots.
Croke park need to decide if they are in the Gaelic games or concert promotion business. To have 2 of the biggest football games of the year so badly affected by a dodgy surface cause of bono and his mates concert is not good enough.
Was it in 09 too that Kerry played Dublin on a freshly laid pitch due to a U2 concert?
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 30, 2017 22:18:13 GMT
Youd swear we lost today or beat a division 4 side(who didnt hammer Donegal last weekend and beat Mayo earlier). Unbelieveable amount of negativity around. Ya we were "poor". Ya they had 5 goal chances. Ya we were flat and static. But ya. We won......by 8 points. Job done. Spot on 100%, Kerry never play well in the quarters even back in the 2000s we rarely did well in the quarters. The negativity on here would drive you mad at times. #Believe
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 30, 2017 22:46:26 GMT
On TSG tonight, Dessie tries to get the CCCC to suspend Donaghy.
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Post by thirdson on Jul 30, 2017 22:55:57 GMT
On TSG tonight, Dessie tries to get the CCCC to suspend Donaghy. Any comments on Enright s Mcmenamin type shoulder or Donaghy s hands around the neck. Jerseys worn irrelevant in the interests of fairness .
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Post by kerryboy83 on Jul 30, 2017 23:11:32 GMT
It was Rory Kavanagh that highlighted the Donaghy incident . Will probably get a suspension for it?
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jul 31, 2017 1:37:43 GMT
I recall a moment of fear when the clock read 44:44 mins and the next 10 mins was dodgy, I sensed Tribesmen could take a grip - you'd also be concerned that we could meet the Dubs without having a serious game against a decent team - Dubs will only have had Tyrone really as the chasing pack are well behind - the gulf in class is serious but I suppose that is the nature of these things, what with rural depopulation, etc - what it be like in say 10--20 years time doesn't bear thinking about.
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 31, 2017 6:53:46 GMT
Cheerleading Dessie just can't take off his Dublin jersey while on TSG. The evening show has lost it's allure with Cahil in the seat years ago.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 31, 2017 7:28:09 GMT
The CCCC only act on what's in a refs report going on events in recent years so unless the ref makes a mention of it Donaghy is in the clear.
Enrights was either a red or a yellow.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jul 31, 2017 7:38:19 GMT
Wont someone please think of Connolly in all this- and every situation for that matter.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 31, 2017 8:04:51 GMT
The Kerry Galway game was a pointless exercise because Galway were either flat and tired after last week or else had no belief.
They allowed Kelly to roll short kickouts to Enright yet didn't put any real pressure on as kerry built from the back. Even some of their substitutions were hard to fathom as they seemed to remove their better performers like Bradshaw.
Donaghy was allowed fetch at will over his head as a rookie was put on him at the last minute.
Galway were the poorest of the last eight.
Kerry probably sensed that Galway were a beaten docket from the get go and did enough. I hope so anyway as Kerry were poor yesterday.v
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Post by thechosenone on Jul 31, 2017 8:05:05 GMT
In fairness to James yesterday the corner back Eoghan Kerin spent the whole game holding him and hitting him and goading him. A horrible player. Declan Kyne on Geaney wasn't much better.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jul 31, 2017 8:40:54 GMT
In fairness to James yesterday the corner back Eoghan Kerin spent the whole game holding him and hitting him and goading him. A horrible player. Declan Kyne on Geaney wasn't much better. Yeah that number 2 just seemed to be a pointless idiot to be honest
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jul 31, 2017 8:46:26 GMT
The CCCC only act on what's in a refs report going on events in recent years so unless the ref makes a mention of it Donaghy is in the clear. Enrights was either a red or a yellow. Enright didn't get out of the way and protected himself, even TSG said that having seen it again, ref initial call was Yellow, an understandable err - well maybe a ref should be sharper? Donaghy got fists as did JO'D and the ref was sharp enough there - as TSG said, if you give it then you must take it and Kieran won't be bullied by anyone - what a performance, he will create havoc and consequent opportunity - interesting that Maurice Fitz was coaching him as Gooch used to, even in the Autumn of his career he is still honing basic skills. Also apparently after some winter of basketball - that goal was sublime.
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Post by Jigz84 on Jul 31, 2017 8:58:11 GMT
In fairness to James yesterday the corner back Eoghan Kerin spent the whole game holding him and hitting him and goading him. A horrible player. Declan Kyne on Geaney wasn't much better. Yeah that number 2 just seemed to be a pointless idiot to be honest He gave Donoghue a belt into the gut before the ball was thrown in.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jul 31, 2017 9:06:58 GMT
Yeah that number 2 just seemed to be a pointless idiot to be honest He gave Donoghue a belt into the gut before the ball was thrown in. He was at it all day- himself and Kyne are similar to those Junior football corner backs who fancy themselves as hatchet men. That status is usually self given as they can barely kick a ball and so have to contribute something
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Post by kot on Jul 31, 2017 10:13:26 GMT
Fionn was caught terribly for Ian Burke's and Galway's first goal chance. Unacceptable. Some redemption from block on Comer's shot. Shanahan would not have been caught in that position. I think Fionn is fine player ball in hand, but not strong enough defensively, physically or positionally. Punching ball in second half which is kamikaze play, not his fault because his lack of height constrained him. He's our weakest defender. Nothing personal, just cold analysis with the eyes. My thoughts exactly. Fionn an excellent ball player and great to watch in possession linking up the back to our midfield & forwards. But he has been targetted and exploited in each of our championship games this year and it seems like a futile exercise to keep him starting. Again, like you say, just being brutally honest and not meaning to speak ill of him in any way - I just think Shanahan & Young would be better options. Griffin is also a bit loose and our backs in general! How in the last 3 seasons have we not remedied our achilles heel of being run at? I was buoyed by Morley's form throughout the season but himself & Crowley were AWOL quite a few times. We put a big score while not playing well which is encouraging. But we are as loose as a Hen Night at 4 am in Dingle at the back which is a massive, massive worry!
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Post by skybluezone on Jul 31, 2017 10:16:26 GMT
Kerry will rinse the pick of Mayo and Roscommon. You can book your weekend for the final. Donaghy was excellent but that's a schoolboy error by Walsh putting a rookie on him. You at least need to bring some physicality and this lad was yards behind Donaghy from the off. On the hands around the neck thing, that needs reviewing whether it's in refs report or not. Enrights was either black or red. Deliberate body collisions are black. But there was a bit of malice in it, to misquote Martin Carney! Geaney is a fabulous footballer, love watching him. Interesting before the match that Brolly was complimenting both Geaney and JOD, but added the caveat that JOD can be selfish. JOD spent the next 45 minutes proving Brolly right. All in all its job done, you are in a good place. Concerns would be centre back and full back, for the nth time the opposition ran a road down the middle of the defence. Griffin is not as good as he looks if that makes sense. Looks great bursting out with ball but still questions on his core defensive attributes. If Mayo make it your have to watch the Cafferkey Donaghy match up though your fingers as it will be a car crash.
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Post by keane on Jul 31, 2017 10:37:01 GMT
I'm pretty confident Kerry will have more of a defensive shape when they think they need it.
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Post by kerryexile on Jul 31, 2017 10:45:33 GMT
Leaving Croke Park yesterday I felt that Eamonn had nailed it – players weren’t peaking, some players getting a chance and grabbing it (Buckley, Barry, maybe Donaghy) and ultimately an easy win. This was confirmed for me this morning at work when a Dublin fan who would claim to be knowledgeable said “we didn’t see the All-Ireland champions there yesterday .... it will be Dublin or Tyrone”.
The one concern is the ongoing problem with runners from midfield. There is minor relief in the fact that the post match comments always seem to be that Kerry “could have conceded” goals. Kerry are in the AI semi-final and have only conceded 1 goal.
Yesterday I was high in the Hogan Stand and I don’t want to be unfair to Roscommon supporters but they were filtering in all through the Kerry game, they stopped to talk to people on the steps and as the moved into their seats and they continuously blocked the view. Maybe it’s because they are more used to Croke Park, but mayo fans didn’t seem to cause the same disruption. In a double bill the first game is not a curtain raiser – it is as important as the second game and maybe stewarding methods need to be looked at.
On the way home I was listening to the “Marty Squad” on RTE 1 and they had Jack O’Shea, John Maughan and Shane Curran on. The 6.01 news had Eamon O’Hara on. Later saw a recording of O’Rourke, Brolly, & Spillane. Later still saw Cooper, Kavanagh & McGuigan on TSG. This morning heard Dessie Dolan with Des Cahill. The comments were all the same, to such an extent that I got the impression that they were all together somewhere in Croke Park watching the games, came up with a few points and are now available to churn them out to anyone that will listen. If I hear one more time about the mistake it was for Lee Keegan to follow …..
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Post by Kingdomson on Jul 31, 2017 10:52:06 GMT
Congratulations to Kerry on reaching their 5th consecutive All Ireland semi-final.
Yes, Kerry played poorly in patches and with the handbrake on for long stages but still they won by 8 points and one could clearly see the gap in quality between Kerry and Galway. Ultimately, the team we're trying to catch is Dublin, and one of the most admiral traits of this current Dublin side is how they always seem tuned into the pitch of the game and ready to rock regardless of opposition. I doubt Jim Gavin would allow his players get away with such a flat performance as Kerry gave for long periods yesterday. Looking at the poor form Galway were in themselves they should be relieved they weren't playing a more ruthless Dublin as their loss would have been a total massacre in the high double digits.
Moreover, given how Kerry performed in the Munster Final and how tuned the team were from the off, I thought mentally we're upping our game here to Dublinesque levels but not yesterday. I'm sure Éamonn&Co will talk it out and I doubt very much we'll see Kerry any way flat for the semi-final.
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Post by fivenarow on Jul 31, 2017 10:53:52 GMT
Youd swear we lost today or beat a division 4 side(who didnt hammer Donegal last weekend and beat Mayo earlier). Unbelieveable amount of negativity around. Ya we were "poor". Ya they had 5 goal chances. Ya we were flat and static. But ya. We won......by 8 points. Job done. Good post, job done, learn & move on - Galway would be happy to be able to do the same today.
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Post by Jigz84 on Jul 31, 2017 11:03:32 GMT
Nice images on Sportsfile of what the Galway defenders were doing.
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Post by Kingdomson on Jul 31, 2017 11:05:34 GMT
Cheerleading Dessie just can't take off his Dublin jersey while on TSG. The evening show has lost it's allure with Cahil in the seat years ago. Generally I think Cahill is a good host but he definitely put the Dublin jersey on last night and was probing hard for the response he wanted. It was pretty transparent though to see what Dessie was up to and totally pathetic.
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