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Post by kerryboy83 on Jun 28, 2017 23:46:51 GMT
Is that the team that we would like to see going out or the team that we think Eamonn will put out. In my case there would be a lot of differences. I can't see why management will change very much from the last outing. Hopefully Moran will b midfield with Barry. Think kealy will be back in goals
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Post by buck02 on Jun 29, 2017 7:24:34 GMT
Anybody writing Cork off in a Munster Final is an idiot. It wouldn't be the first time they caught us in the last decade by either making us sweat to the very end or outright beating us. In fact, the last time we were off the back off a league final win and facing Cork they were again a Div 2 team...... don't think I need to tell you what happened? Don't get me wrong, I'm still confident we will win.... but not cocky. Alan O'Connor cleaned us out the last time we faced them in the Munster Final and the added introduction of the mark is a fair point by Darragh so we will be no means have it our own way. In 2008, Cork had been in the All Ireland final the previous year. They had been in the semi final the two years before that. Cork have failed to even get to the quarter final these last two years. In 2008, Cork won Division 2. This year the won two games in Division 2.
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Post by mandad on Jun 29, 2017 8:34:01 GMT
In most comparisons, there is very little between the two ‘keepers. The last ten minutes or so of the League was not Brendan’s finest and almost cost Kerry the game. I would lean towards Brian Kelly for that reason. The midfield is also going to be a tight call. I recall Anthony Maher’s performance against Alan O’Connor in Killarney, probably two years ago, when Maher totally cleaned him out – even when O’Connor when into the full forward line. There are ‘horses for courses’ and this could influence the selectors in their selection in midfield. Moran has to start I expect. Now that Jack Savage is out what will the full forward line be? Wouldn’t a line of Geaney, Donaghy and James keep a full back line busy?
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Post by playitfair on Jun 29, 2017 8:48:50 GMT
Anybody writing Cork off in a Munster Final is an idiot. It wouldn't be the first time they caught us in the last decade by either making us sweat to the very end or outright beating us. In fact, the last time we were off the back off a league final win and facing Cork they were again a Div 2 team...... don't think I need to tell you what happened? Don't get me wrong, I'm still confident we will win.... but not cocky. Alan O'Connor cleaned us out the last time we faced them in the Munster Final and the added introduction of the mark is a fair point by Darragh so we will be no means have it our own way. In 2008, Cork had been in the All Ireland final the previous year. They had been in the semi final the two years before that. Cork have failed to even get to the quarter final these last two years. In 2008, Cork won Division 2. This year the won two games in Division 2. Just for correctness, didn't Derry win the league in 2008 BEATING Kerry in parnell park. Otherwise the point is valid.
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Post by buck02 on Jun 29, 2017 8:54:59 GMT
In 2008, Cork had been in the All Ireland final the previous year. They had been in the semi final the two years before that. Cork have failed to even get to the quarter final these last two years. In 2008, Cork won Division 2. This year the won two games in Division 2. Just for correctness, didn't Derry win the league in 2008 BEATING Kerry in parnell park. Otherwise the point is valid. Of course. I often mix up the defeats in 2008 and 2009 to Cork. They have only beaten us once since 2009 by the way.
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Post by onlykerry on Jun 29, 2017 10:05:01 GMT
Kerry V Cork is a derby game as we well know - derby games are unpredictable with form a poor indicator of the outcome. They are set up for one off quare results. Every logical thinker can only see one result but players see the spectre of the neighbour and bragging rights and logic can feck off for the day - that is what makes every Munster final special when these two neighbours play - the unpredictability factor.
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Post by gamechanger10 on Jun 29, 2017 11:42:38 GMT
Weather looks like it could be a stinker on Sunday so that will take from the quality of the football one would presume, it might also increase Corks chance of an upset. Cork are playing for pride here and some of the comments about their management by Thomas will certainly focus their attitude and intensity and this could be a real battle if they get a run on us. Clare should have had at least another goal were it not for for a bit of timber and they moved through us with frightening ease on too many occasions. That being said I find it hard to see them turning us over as we should have too much quality for them to handle from 8 to 15. I presume the team will be named tomorrow night ??
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Post by kerryboy83 on Jun 29, 2017 12:33:02 GMT
Weather looks like it could be a stinker on Sunday so that will take from the quality of the football one would presume, it might also increase Corks chance of an upset. Cork are playing for pride here and some of the comments about their management by Thomas will certainly focus their attitude and intensity and this could be a real battle if they get a run on us. Clare should have had at least another goal were it not for for a bit of timber and they moved through us with frightening ease on too many occasions. That being said I find it hard to see them turning us over as we should have too much quality for them to handle from 8 to 15. I presume the team will be named tomorrow night ?? I just checked the weather for Sunday and it seems to be ok. Hopefully it will be dry
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Post by kot on Jun 29, 2017 13:28:27 GMT
Anybody writing Cork off in a Munster Final is an idiot. It wouldn't be the first time they caught us in the last decade by either making us sweat to the very end or outright beating us. In fact, the last time we were off the back off a league final win and facing Cork they were again a Div 2 team...... don't think I need to tell you what happened? Don't get me wrong, I'm still confident we will win.... but not cocky. Alan O'Connor cleaned us out the last time we faced them in the Munster Final and the added introduction of the mark is a fair point by Darragh so we will be no means have it our own way. In 2008, Cork had been in the All Ireland final the previous year. They had been in the semi final the two years before that. Cork have failed to even get to the quarter final these last two years. In 2008, Cork won Division 2. This year the won two games in Division 2. The year in question is 2009. Anyway, the overall point is that we shouldn't ever be writing off Cork.
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Post by buck02 on Jun 29, 2017 13:51:26 GMT
In 2008, Cork had been in the All Ireland final the previous year. They had been in the semi final the two years before that. Cork have failed to even get to the quarter final these last two years. In 2008, Cork won Division 2. This year the won two games in Division 2. The year in question is 2009. Anyway, the overall point is that we shouldn't ever be writing off Cork. And Kilkenny shouldnt write off Offaly in the hurling given the history between the two.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jun 29, 2017 14:49:07 GMT
Anyone give a go at naming team? This is the team I'd be hoping for : Kealy Young Griffin Enright Morley Crowley Murphy Barry Moran Walsh Geaney McCharthy O'Donoghue Geaney O'Brien
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Post by givehimaball on Jun 29, 2017 14:51:41 GMT
Heard some "flying in training" news earlier when I was having lunch.
Wonder if there might be some surprises in the starting 15 and in the 26.
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Post by kot on Jun 29, 2017 16:00:35 GMT
The year in question is 2009. Anyway, the overall point is that we shouldn't ever be writing off Cork. And Kilkenny shouldnt write off Offaly in the hurling given the history between the two. Kilkenny were held to a draw at home by Offaly in the last 2 years and both team will have very similar personnel again? Might have missed that.
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Post by veteran on Jun 29, 2017 16:03:04 GMT
Mandad,
You are right about Anthony Maher playing very well in the replay in 2015 against Alan O'Connor . As far as I can recall Alan was dominant in the first game. What was Kerry's midfield in the drawn game? Was Anthony playing? I have a vague memory of David Moran either getting a black card or going off injured and that it was then Alan took over but not sure of that.
Even allowing for his lay off I feel Anthony has displayed poor form lately. I am particularly critical of his recent tendency to break the ball rather than catch it which he had been well able to do. However, he has a very good record against Cork .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2017 16:57:54 GMT
Kealy
Fionn Griffin Enright
Crowley Morley Murphy
Moran Barry
Buckley Darren O'Brien
McCarthy Geaney O'Donoghue
Kelly Walsh Maher Young Keane Geaney Donaghy Sheehan Shanahan White O'Beaglaoich.
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Post by listowelemerrs on Jun 29, 2017 17:30:27 GMT
That would be my team also na crocaigh although I do have great time for Donnacha. Think Buckley will eventually start the team before the seasons out. Fine intelligent footballer when injury free.
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Post by playitfair on Jun 29, 2017 19:08:11 GMT
Mandad, You are right about Anthony Maher playing very well in the replay in 2015 against Alan O'Connor . As far as I can recall Alan was dominant in the first game. What was Kerry's midfield in the drawn game? Was Anthony playing? I have a vague memory of David Moran either getting a black card or going off injured and that it was then Alan took over but not sure of that. Even allowing for his lay off I feel Anthony has displayed poor form lately. I am particularly critical of his recent tendency to break the ball rather than catch it which he had been well able to do. However, he has a very good record against Cork . My recollection is that Anthony was a sub the 1st day and couldn't get into the game when brought on. Always felt it was a decision to try to not show too much. Anthony went on to win an all star that year.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 29, 2017 19:37:21 GMT
Kealy Fionn Griffin Enright Crowley Morley Murphy Moran Barry Buckley Darren O'Brien McCarthy Geaney O'Donoghue Kelly Walsh Maher Young Keane Geaney Donaghy Sheehan Shanahan White O'Beaglaoich. Cant see D. Walsh not starting, vital & valuable player for Kerry.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 29, 2017 19:38:40 GMT
Heard some "flying in training" news earlier when I was having lunch. Wonder if there might be some surprises in the starting 15 and in the 26. The rumour mill must be full flow
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 29, 2017 19:49:10 GMT
Someone must have been "up every tree" in Killarney
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 29, 2017 20:40:00 GMT
Kealy Fionn Griffin Enright Crowley Morley Murphy Moran Barry Buckley Darren O'Brien McCarthy Geaney O'Donoghue Kelly Walsh Maher Young Keane Geaney Donaghy Sheehan Shanahan White O'Beaglaoich. Very surprised that you dont have Mikey Geaney at CHF. I see him as crucial.
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Post by Joxer on Jun 29, 2017 21:35:40 GMT
Yeah, can't see us starting without Donnachadh either.For what its worth I reckon the starting team will be as follows...
B. Kealy S.Enright M.Griffin R.Shanahan P.Crowley T.Morley P.Murphy D,Moran J.Barry M.Geaney J.Buckley D.Walsh S.O'Brien P.Geaney J.O'Donoghue
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Post by MeathExile on Jun 29, 2017 21:53:24 GMT
Would not be surprised to see a couple of the younger guys starting. Remember the League final - young legs are vital. Shanahan, McCarthy, and Begley must be in with a good shout. Would not be surprised to see Paul M on the 40 again.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2017 21:56:07 GMT
Yeah, can't see us starting without Donnachadh either.For what its worth I reckon the starting team will be as follows... B. Kealy S.Enright M.Griffin R.Shanahan P.Crowley T.Morley P.Murphy D,Moran J.Barry M.Geaney J.Buckley D.Walsh S.O'Brien P.Geaney J.O'Donoghue I think you will be close with that front 6. I still think maher might be ahead of Barry and that killian if fit starts. Also think Fionn could start with shanahan and griffin the most vulnerable.
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Post by carthalawn on Jun 29, 2017 22:06:51 GMT
I think Fitz will start Maher, needs game time give his long absence. Few midfielders can match his kicking game. I expect Cork to adopt a similar game plan to Clare I.e. plenty of direct running through the middle third. Fascinating game.
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Post by kerryboy83 on Jun 29, 2017 23:12:21 GMT
Reading the cork forum is hilarious. Calling us that shower if you know what!!! Slating Darragh o Se . Talk about taking the bait!!!
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 30, 2017 7:20:50 GMT
If Kerry win, EF will be the first Kerry manager to win five Munster titles in a row.
Not sure if Kerry won five in a row previously.
Mention of five in a row is enought to give Kerry people of a certain vintage the collywobbles!!
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Post by homerj on Jun 30, 2017 7:22:58 GMT
If Kerry win, EF will be the first Kerry manager to win five Munster titles in a row. Not sure if Kerry won five in a row previously. Mention of five in a row is enought to give Kerry people of a certain vintage the collywobbles!! Eh? Didnt Micko win 9 in row?
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 30, 2017 7:37:12 GMT
Going back to bed now. Sorry!
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Post by onlykerry on Jun 30, 2017 7:49:52 GMT
If Kerry win, EF will be the first Kerry manager to win five Munster titles in a row. Not sure if Kerry won five in a row previously. Mention of five in a row is enought to give Kerry people of a certain vintage the collywobbles!! Eh? Didnt Micko win 9 in row? Thought it was 8 - 75/6/7/8/9/80/81/2 ,
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