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Post by Mickmack on Jan 5, 2020 23:17:24 GMT
Who was the last Dublin player to head to Oz.
I cant recall.
Why are those so few?
Is it that offers come but a better deal is made available in Dublin?
Its hardly the case that Dubs players dont have the requisite skills.
Maybe the blue panther will clarify!
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Post by Kingdomson on Jan 5, 2020 23:45:37 GMT
The obvious attractions working as a fulltime professional sportsperson encompassing both lifestyle and financial earnings via salary and sponsorships have been well highlighted but the factor too often ignored by us GAA supporters is if the actual sporting rewards increasingly are worth the effort in terms of being a GAA intercounty player outside of Dublin these days?
If the intercounty competition increasingly becomes a one horse race with Dublin’s overall domination likely to continue in terms of national honours and where even a county like Kerry sees a diminishing return – players have and will increasingly ask themselves, is this really worth the effort? Cathal McShane has his Ulster Championship medal but he surely asked himself the question about how near Tyrone are realistically to winning an All Ireland? Close like a few others but not close enough might just be his answer as he faced into 2020 and he'd probably be right.
Other top players have stepped away too in other counties and not necessarily for a professional sporting opportunity in Oz but because increasingly the juice just ain’t worth the squeeze. Despite our worrying dismal failure hitherto at under 20 level there remains an assumption at large that Kerry’s minor success might pave the way to future senior glory but at the moment it’s just that, an assumption. Despite how close we got to Dublin last year there are no guarantees we will get any closer. I wonder how long even a county as successful in the past as Kerry could keep stars from doing a Cathal McShane should the ambition of winning an All Ireland senior title despite best efforts not be fulfilled in the next two or three seasons?
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jan 6, 2020 6:48:29 GMT
Who was the last Dublin player to head to Oz. I cant recall. Why are those so few? Is it that offers come but a better deal is made available in Dublin? Its hardly the case that Dubs players dont have the requisite skills. Maybe the blue panther will clarify! Kilkenny
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2020 7:10:03 GMT
Who was the last Dublin player to head to Oz. I cant recall. Why are those so few? Is it that offers come but a better deal is made available in Dublin? Its hardly the case that Dubs players dont have the requisite skills. Maybe the blue panther will clarify! James Madden
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Post by Mickmack on Jan 6, 2020 8:27:28 GMT
Who was the last Dublin player to head to Oz. I cant recall. Why are those so few? Is it that offers come but a better deal is made available in Dublin? Its hardly the case that Dubs players dont have the requisite skills. Maybe the blue panther will clarify! Kilkenny I am well aware that he went but returned pretty quickly.
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Post by Mickmack on Jan 6, 2020 8:27:55 GMT
Who was the last Dublin player to head to Oz. I cant recall. Why are those so few? Is it that offers come but a better deal is made available in Dublin? Its hardly the case that Dubs players dont have the requisite skills. Maybe the blue panther will clarify! James Madden Never heard of him.
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Post by Mickmack on Jan 6, 2020 8:29:39 GMT
The obvious attractions working as a fulltime professional sportsperson encompassing both lifestyle and financial earnings via salary and sponsorships have been well highlighted but the factor too often ignored by us GAA supporters is if the actual sporting rewards increasingly are worth the effort in terms of being a GAA intercounty player outside of Dublin these days? If the intercounty competition increasingly becomes a one horse race with Dublin’s overall domination likely to continue in terms of national honours and where even a county like Kerry sees a diminishing return – players have and will increasingly ask themselves, is this really worth the effort? Cathal McShane has his Ulster Championship medal but he surely asked himself the question about how near Tyrone are realistically to winning an All Ireland? Close like a few others but not close enough might just be his answer as he faced into 2020 and he'd probably be right. Other top players have stepped away too in other counties and not necessarily for a professional sporting opportunity in Oz but because increasingly the juice just ain’t worth the squeeze. Despite our worrying dismal failure hitherto at under 20 level there remains an assumption at large that Kerry’s minor success might pave the way to future senior glory but at the moment it’s just that, an assumption. Despite how close we got to Dublin last year there are no guarantees we will get any closer. I wonder how long even a county as successful in the past as Kerry could keep stars from doing a Cathal McShane should the ambition of winning an All Ireland senior title despite best efforts not be fulfilled in the next two or three seasons? Its bound to be a factor.
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Post by themanfromthewest on Jan 6, 2020 12:29:02 GMT
Madden signed with the Lions Last year, he is / was a hugely talented half forward, broke a long standing 20m sprint record during the AFL combine as it happens. Matty Ruane and Oisin Gallen are another pair reportedly on the AFL radar. Derry lost three of their best prospects to the AFL in the past 12 months as well, Conor Glass, Anton Tohill and Callum Browne. This is a very worrying trend across the board.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jan 6, 2020 18:18:18 GMT
Madden signed with the Lions Last year, he is / was a hugely talented half forward, broke a long standing 20m sprint record during the AFL combine as it happens. Matty Ruane and Oisin Gallen are another pair reportedly on the AFL radar. Derry lost three of their best prospects to the AFL in the past 12 months as well, Conor Glass, Anton Tohill and Callum Browne. This is a very worrying trend across the board. I heard Gallen was in Oz but he is now back, and just had a shoulder operation. He is light yet but is evidently a great prospect, saw him in a club game in 20918 and awesome is the word you'd use to describe him, he has everything, absolutely! Clerkin in today's Indo nails it in that we will always lose a few, so it's damage limitation. Still the advantage is with them and things could get worse, what with insurance scams, etc here - Ireland is an expensive country to live in so factor that against getting paid to play as opposed to not getting paid for doing similar work, with inter-county commanding 200 hours per month, same as a full time job plus the social restrictions.
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Post by themanfromthewest on Jan 6, 2020 21:40:26 GMT
Madden signed with the Lions Last year, he is / was a hugely talented half forward, broke a long standing 20m sprint record during the AFL combine as it happens. Matty Ruane and Oisin Gallen are another pair reportedly on the AFL radar. Derry lost three of their best prospects to the AFL in the past 12 months as well, Conor Glass, Anton Tohill and Callum Browne. This is a very worrying trend across the board. I heard Gallen was in Oz but he is now back, and just had a shoulder operation. He is light yet but is evidently a great prospect, saw him in a club game in 20918 and awesome is the word you'd use to describe him, he has everything, absolutely! Clerkin in today's Indo nails it in that we will always lose a few, so it's damage limitation. Still the advantage is with them and things could get worse, what with insurance scams, etc here - Ireland is an expensive country to live in so factor that against getting paid to play as opposed to not getting paid for doing similar work, with inter-county commanding 200 hours per month, same as a full time job plus the social restrictions. It’s becoming more than a few though. The AFL is stepping up recruitment here and every young lad that goes paves more of the way for others, it is a hugely attractive proposition for our best youngsters. I’m not sure how I feel about it tbh, it’s great to see lads get a shot at a well paid professional career but where will it leave our own game if this is the aspiration for the best young players in the country.
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Post by kerryexile on Jan 7, 2020 0:49:41 GMT
They say that those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad.
In about 10 months GAA President John Horan and General Secretary Tom Ryan will put on a show for the association that has a structure in place to deprive us of our best players.
And the ultimate test of their lunatic actions, WILL THEY PUT DAVID CLIFFORD, FOR EXAMPLE, ON DISPLAY FOR MANAGERS, COACHES AND ESPECIALLY SPONSORS TO TRY TO LURE AWAY???
Its time that counties made players "unavailable". The year Tohill was manager he made a comment early in the year about Kerry, which the players took exception to. To the best of my knowledge no Kerry player played that year. (I don't watch it).
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jan 7, 2020 10:09:46 GMT
I think both the above comments represent the (vast?) majority of thinking in the GAA. Sad fact is the Oz cherry pick our best and that wan of our own, Tadhgeen, presents it to them on a plate must have 'em having a right laugh at us. WHAT BENFIT DOES THE GAA GET FROM THE COMPROMISE RULES SERIES? We know the cost, well the start of it anyway.
Oz Footie grows out of global forces, the GAA is ethnic, i.e anyone living here, we don't scout the world.
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Post by Mickmack on Jan 7, 2020 12:22:29 GMT
When you consider the way gaelic football rules keep being aligned with "footie" together with the retention of the compromise rules series you would nearly begin to wonder whether the GAA sees itself as an academy for "footie".
There is a lot of money sloshing around "footie".
Its just as well that i am not the cynical type!
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Post by themanfromthewest on Jan 7, 2020 12:28:51 GMT
I think both the above comments represent the (vast?) majority of thinking in the GAA. Sad fact is the Oz cherry pick our best and that wan of our own, Tadhgeen, presents it to them on a plate must have 'em having a right laugh at us. WHAT BENFIT DOES THE GAA GET FROM THE COMPROMISE RULES SERIES? We know the cost, well the start of it anyway. Oz Footie grows out of global forces, the GAA is ethnic, i.e anyone living here, we don't scout the world. Tadhg Kennelly is long gone from that role with the AFL. Marty Clarke is their chief recruiter in Ireland now as far as I am aware. I’d agree that the compromise rules offers very little benefit at this stage, bar a nice holiday every couple of years for the players and GAA top brass. It should be ended. I don’t think it will have any impact on the recruitment however, Clarke will continue to sniff out the best talent.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jan 7, 2020 15:24:25 GMT
I think both the above comments represent the (vast?) majority of thinking in the GAA. Sad fact is the Oz cherry pick our best and that wan of our own, Tadhgeen, presents it to them on a plate must have 'em having a right laugh at us. WHAT BENFIT DOES THE GAA GET FROM THE COMPROMISE RULES SERIES? We know the cost, well the start of it anyway. Oz Footie grows out of global forces, the GAA is ethnic, i.e anyone living here, we don't scout the world. Tadhg Kennelly is long gone from that role with the AFL. Marty Clarke is their chief recruiter in Ireland now as far as I am aware. I’d agree that the compromise rules offers very little benefit at this stage, bar a nice holiday every couple of years for the players and GAA top brass. It should be ended. I don’t think it will have any impact on the recruitment however, Clarke will continue to sniff out the best talent. It is 'common knowledge' Tadhgeen is still involved, maybe at arms length, though I only have it from others and in fairness anyone can watch games on TV from anywhere in the world and then telephone the target. I suppose you can never know but it matters little when others take the mantle, the good work he started is still being done and the consequences are the same. It must so be hard on management who help fellas become superstars only to be feeding Oz footie. Ah sure there's worse things wrong in the world but then again you can say that about many issues. I am not sure I'd agree with you re the impact of the compromise rules - it brings them into focus and so opens the door to youngsters. With the hyper media generation it might be little difference anyway as youngsters will still find it online.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jan 8, 2020 7:36:49 GMT
I think the players themselves enjoy the Compromise Rules.
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Post by homerj on Jan 8, 2020 9:52:57 GMT
is there going to be an ireland v australia game this year in international rules?
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jan 8, 2020 12:53:18 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Jan 9, 2020 23:32:37 GMT
Columnists Ewan MacKenna: 'You could set your watch by the annual whine - the GAA have no right to begrudge AFL dreams'
Ewan MacKenna
Some required reading before we go any further.
Part 1: The Dream
Perhaps it was Tadhg Kennelly that exemplified it best.
It wasn't so much the Premiership medal with the Sydney Swans or the salary he earned. Instead it was what went with all of that.
The house on Bondi Beach. The fact that once, having pulled a teammate's shorts down on a stage, he came home to see that he'd made the evening news.
The notion that before she married Lleyton Hewitt, having been seen at a party with the actress Rebecca Cartwright, he'd reached a status and stature where dating rumours seemed very plausible.
Indeed he told me once that the stuff that arrived in the post ranged from cup cakes to g-strings on the basis there were "a lot of freaks out there".
He may have been the rarity but that's a lot to wave in front of a footballer from Ireland.
Part 2: The Reality
For so long the Irish experiment in the AFL had and has been a failure to the point the above is the exception.
The rule? Homesickness that sees many fail to make it before they even get near the physical requirements of a game they've never really played before, and one that causes many Australian journalists to refer to Gaelic football as non-contact.
Then there's the mundane day-to-day in any pro sport, and for most there isn't the money to live a lifestyle that provides a counterweight.
You get there, you get your rent taken care of, an away-from-home allowance, and some cash for things like a toaster and a kettle.
It's why most quickly come back to club and county with an experience and a memory to share.
Before he returned, Paul Cribben was quite open about what it took to be a Collingwood Magpie.
Having made the trans-planet journey, he was still fit enough to get off the plane and win the team's cross-country when they came back to training, but that was a beginning rather than any end.
Once in their facilities, downstairs there was the room where teammates were lifting 130 kilos as they put muscle on top of muscle, while upstairs was the altitude room that fabricated life at 3,000m as all that muscle learned to enhance oxygen intake.
Pearce Hanley stayed the course to the point he's now a household name to those that know the sport. Over a decade and counting.
He may not have reached Kennelly's lifestyle but he did go through the loneliness and the brutality to get this far. What he left behind though? Before skipping Ballaghaderreen, he worked as a barman and waiter in Durkin's.
That to this? What young man would or could ever turn away from the chance?
To try and even bend their ear or to put pressure seems as unfair as it does pointless.
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"I have given Cathal my views on what I thought in my heart and soul would be best for his career both on and off the field. The very simple answer to that is that I thought it would be best served by him being here. He has to take that on board and look at what may be on offer elsewhere. He has to make that final decision and I respect him for that."
Cathal McShane is 24 years of age. For the last while, aside from dedicating himself to Tyrone's cause to the point he joint top-scored in last summer's championship, he's been flogging cars to make a living. There's nothing wrong with that, it's just that it's not this.
Later this month he'll have a trial with the Adelaide Crows and, while that's something to be hugely proud of for many and any who helped in his development, he's instead become the latest piece of meat chucked into a debate that has never been worth having to begin with. Still it rages.
Mickey Harte may be one of the louder elements in the association when it comes to players going to Australia, but he's far from alone.
From wanting compensation, to wanting it to stop completely, there are various stakeholders who've no right to hold their attitude. Yet here we go again. You could set your watch by the annual whine and pseudo-panic.
Harte and others are correct in one assertion, if wrong in many others. The GAA's association with the AFL is baffling. It served little purpose beyond the fans once feeding their bloodlust, while a handful of others get a now-and-again junket from it.
Were it scrapped though, would the AFL's interest in Irish players really lessen much? Not likely.
The problem is that, as an organisation, the GAA is a muddle of vested and conflicting interests and, while often hypocritical and contradictory, it tries to claim one thing and then does the other. Such an attitude works for a while but eventually it causes you to trip over all the crossed wires.
That's what we are seeing here, for crucial to any AFL conversation is the GAA's amateur ethos, which is a ruse given what's expected of players.
In hiding behind that, it proves to be a serious money saver but the flipside and the downside comes when organisations abroad are willing to give players a genuine living. It's then the GAA can't expect sympathy.
Players in Ireland may not have dreamed of being a professional in Aussie rules, per se.
But how many kids in Ireland dreamed of being a professional sportsperson?
For all the benefits and openings many get from playing football and hurling here today, there will still only ever be a handful fortunate enough to make an actual full-time wage from their talent.
So why wouldn't the rest go if given the opportunity?
If they do, and if the GAA was serious about its pride-in-the-parish belief system, then there'd be a pride in those from the parish who have helped create someone like McShane.
Instead we get calls for a pay-off but how absurd is that when the GAA still claim this is no more than a hobby.
Can you imagine a local am-dram club looking for a cheque because one within its ranks makes the silver screen?
Can you imagine a local art society suggesting reimbursement because a painter there got exhibited in the Tate? In the same way would the GAA ever ask for money were it to lose a player due to office work commitments?
Besides, why should the AFL care for a far-away body that so often turns its back on the majority of its own?
Why should it care about waving money at GAA players when the GAA have trampled across those same players to grow income?
It shouldn't.
The GAA defends many of its decisions as it talks of itself as a business. It cannot complain then when someone else wants to engage in that very same business. Indeed by now, if anything, the association should count itself lucky more haven't left.
Not for the AFL though.
At the start of the last decade, the Cork side that won the All-Ireland looked more like a rugby league team in their style of play.
By the end of the decade, Dublin were dominating mostly thanks to an athleticism that was based around size, pace and fitness.
If Australia has shown anything, it's that these traits translate across sports, and with one pro game on this island, the real wonder and the real worry should be why rugby here hasn't yet capitalised to a serious extent.
The GAA doesn't know what it is right now, yet moans about those with a clear vision and with contracts to hand out.
If that continues then in the coming years a genuine exodus could happen from within.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jan 10, 2020 15:32:08 GMT
Hey lock up your sons, Tadhgeen is coming back to canvass in the election so hide 'em, curfew on youngsters playing football until further notice!
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Post by otobeawinner on Jan 10, 2020 19:58:27 GMT
Hey lock up your sons, Tadhgeen is coming back to canvass in the election so hide 'em, curfew on youngsters playing football until further notice! am I missing something but who in hell is tahgeen? There is a tadhg kennelly former oz rules player ect ect... head scratching comments at best. Get over it.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jan 12, 2020 2:21:38 GMT
Hey lock up your sons, Tadhgeen is coming back to canvass in the election so hide 'em, curfew on youngsters playing football until further notice! am I missing something but who in hell is tahgeen? There is a tadhg kennelly former oz rules player ect ect... head scratching comments at best. Get over it. Get over what? Tadhg though younger than a lot of us is a pure inspiration and always will be, read his book, our own families are connected down the generations and 3 of which inspired of my own poem Trojan Horsepower, a work that even our non-admirers couldn't but acknowledge, and for the record, I only held the pen, I didn't scale the dizzy heights he did and if you read the book you might just begin to come to terms with what a young lad went through as he started out in Oz. As regards the 'Tadhgeen', where we come from, the 'een' and 'ín' at the end of a name is a term of endearment, Mickeen, Jimeen/ín, Brendeen, Tomainín/Tomasheen, Jackeen, etc. Now with respect, I doubt you're that far from our culture that you'd be unaware of this. In fact his uncle Mike often takes his grandfathers 'Mickey' name, by way of public introduction, and what will be news to many, was that Mickey was the first of the 3 generations of Horse Kennellys, the origin of the species, a man who's hands were so big his fingers couldn't fit in his pockets, and that in the day of local tailored suits. Tadhgeen is a hero, First odessy of double hemisphere medallions, etc. You don't get 75 verses of poetry written about you for no reason, and if I needed to get over his achievement, then composing them was just what the doctor ordered. Ah maybe you weren't fully briefed, but now you are, salute greatness, it's what sport is about. Quote of the day - in Tomaisíns Pub in Lisselton, an establishment so close to Tadhg's heart, and we all throwing in our tuppenny bit trying to describe Tadhgeen, who darkens the door but wan Eddie Dowling - 'A dandy footballer' a deir an fear mór, problem solved!
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Post by otobeawinner on Jan 12, 2020 19:25:20 GMT
am I missing something but who in hell is tahgeen? There is a tadhg kennelly former oz rules player ect ect... head scratching comments at best. Get over it. Get over what? Tadhg though younger than a lot of us is a pure inspiration and always will be, read his book, our own families are connected down the generations and 3 of which inspired of my own poem Trojan Horsepower, a work that even our non-admirers couldn't but acknowledge, and for the record, I only held the pen, I didn't scale the dizzy heights he did and if you read the book you might just begin to come to terms with what a young lad went through as he started out in Oz. As regards the 'Tadhgeen', where we come from, the 'een' and 'ín' at the end of a name is a term of endearment, Mickeen, Jimeen/ín, Brendeen, Tomainín/Tomasheen, Jackeen, etc. Now with respect, I doubt you're that far from our culture that you'd be unaware of this. In fact his uncle Mike often takes his grandfathers 'Mickey' name, by way of public introduction, and what will be news to many, was that Mickey was the first of the 3 generations of Horse Kennellys, the origin of the species, a man who's hands were so big his fingers couldn't fit in his pockets, and that in the day of local tailored suits. Tadhgeen is a hero, First odessy of double hemisphere medallions, etc. You don't get 75 verses of poetry written about you for no reason, and if I needed to get over his achievement, then composing them was just what the doctor ordered. Ah maybe you weren't fully briefed, but now you are, salute greatness, it's what sport is about. Quote of the day - in Tomaisíns Pub in Lisselton, an establishment so close to Tadhg's heart, and we all throwing in our tuppenny bit trying to describe Tadhgeen, who darkens the door but wan Eddie Dowling - 'A dandy footballer' a deir an fear mór, problem solved! I was replying directly to your above post. Lock up your sons ect... that and previous ones inc "Sad fact is the Oz cherry pick our best and that wan of our own, Tadhgeen, presents it to them on a plate must have 'em having a right laugh at us." Your opinion of his pedigree as an athlete is not in question it's the ramblings about his post playing career that's tedious. Much as you like to be the poet and local historian. No one ever calls him tadhgeen. Yes his uncle is commonly known as mikey. Can you not see the difference. As for culture dont start. FYI I read his book and although I know him personally and appreciate his stellar career it was one of the least informative biographies I have ever read. It was like a book on self promotion and very poor quality. That's only my opinion of course. Read. more: kerrygaa.proboards.com/thread/6652/kerry-players-afl-thread?page=19#ixzz6AqOICrVP
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jan 12, 2020 22:01:45 GMT
Get over what? Tadhg though younger than a lot of us is a pure inspiration and always will be, read his book, our own families are connected down the generations and 3 of which inspired of my own poem Trojan Horsepower, a work that even our non-admirers couldn't but acknowledge, and for the record, I only held the pen, I didn't scale the dizzy heights he did and if you read the book you might just begin to come to terms with what a young lad went through as he started out in Oz. As regards the 'Tadhgeen', where we come from, the 'een' and 'ín' at the end of a name is a term of endearment, Mickeen, Jimeen/ín, Brendeen, Tomainín/Tomasheen, Jackeen, etc. Now with respect, I doubt you're that far from our culture that you'd be unaware of this. In fact his uncle Mike often takes his grandfathers 'Mickey' name, by way of public introduction, and what will be news to many, was that Mickey was the first of the 3 generations of Horse Kennellys, the origin of the species, a man who's hands were so big his fingers couldn't fit in his pockets, and that in the day of local tailored suits. Tadhgeen is a hero, First odessy of double hemisphere medallions, etc. You don't get 75 verses of poetry written about you for no reason, and if I needed to get over his achievement, then composing them was just what the doctor ordered. Ah maybe you weren't fully briefed, but now you are, salute greatness, it's what sport is about. Quote of the day - in Tomaisíns Pub in Lisselton, an establishment so close to Tadhg's heart, and we all throwing in our tuppenny bit trying to describe Tadhgeen, who darkens the door but wan Eddie Dowling - 'A dandy footballer' a deir an fear mór, problem solved! I was replying directly to your above post. Lock up your sons ect... that and previous ones inc "Sad fact is the Oz cherry pick our best and that wan of our own, Tadhgeen, presents it to them on a plate must have 'em having a right laugh at us." Your opinion of his pedigree as an athlete is not in question it's the ramblings about his post playing career that's tedious. Much as you like to be the poet and local historian. No one ever calls him tadhgeen. Yes his uncle is commonly known as mikey. Can you not see the difference. As for culture dont start. FYI I read his book and although I know him personally and appreciate his stellar career it was one of the least informative biographies I have ever read. It was like a book on self promotion and very poor quality. That's only my opinion of course. Read. more: kerrygaa.proboards.com/thread/6652/kerry-players-afl-thread?page=19#ixzz6AqOICrVPI write poetry and more, but I am not a historian, nor have I been local for 25 years, and yes our opinions differ, and as do many on here, blast it sure if we all thought the same they'd be no forum. What I don't get though is that you feel it is your place to tell me my opinions are wrong, so are all others who I am one with on the subject? As for his book, well opinions again, try reading it through his eyes, e.g. as a homesick teenager in his early days in Oz and which resonates with they now targeting older recruits, if you know him that well you might then get a better tune out of it, I certainly enjoyed it, and while it is of little literary significance, the art of what he achieved is note worthy and history will be kind to him in that respect - but if we didn't lose TW, MO'C and Tadhgeen himself then how many more Sams would we have -2/3. As regards our culture with names well you are so wrong there - half the population of Coolaclarig and Clounmacon, and Ballydonoghue and Listowel have nick names, of endearment, sure the name Paddy is in that classification, Mick, Jack, Ned, Neidín, Thadeen, Mollie -in fact many of these names are now all the go, didn't we have Tim 'Tiger' Lyons, etc, yerra get a bit of sense there! If what you are at had any credibility then Trojan Horsepower wouldn't be an ethical name, yet it nailed it in terms of the work it turned out to be!
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jan 14, 2020 11:54:00 GMT
O'Connor happy with AFL lifestyle - today's Indo, short 'n' to the point though hardly sweet!
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Post by givehimaball on Jan 28, 2020 17:53:15 GMT
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Post by buck02 on Feb 18, 2020 8:04:52 GMT
Deivedas Uosis is off to the Brisbane Lions in October.
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Post by glengael on Feb 18, 2020 9:47:20 GMT
Deivedas Uosis is off to the Brisbane Lions in October. Source?
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Feb 18, 2020 11:54:16 GMT
Deivedas Uosis is off to the Brisbane Lions in October. Source? Radio Kerry are reporting it. He is the ideal type of lad to go really. I don't think he had a chance of making it with Kerry. Best of luck to him. Was he any good outfield, I know he played wing forward for Pobalscoil? A lot of people including myself had no idea he was so athletic.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Feb 18, 2020 11:59:35 GMT
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