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Post by Premier on Jun 10, 2016 22:54:09 GMT
I agree kerrybhoy Paul O'Donoghue is a good footballer. Brings some experience to the team. Am I wrong but what about players like Gavin O'Grady Paul O'Sullivan Eanna O'Conchuir Paul Sullivan is gone to America. Might as well when South Kerry's next game more than likely won't be til September
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Post by givehimaball on Jun 11, 2016 12:13:59 GMT
Last year the juniors used 26 players in total when winning the All-Ireland.
When Tadgh Morley starts tomorrow, that will take to 5 the number that have gone on to "graduate" to wearing the senior jersey in either league or championship since then and that's from just last year.
Also there has been a number of other lads who featured with the juniors last year who have already been in and around the fringe of the senior squad/called into training.
It's very clear that Eamonn and the selectors are taking the concept of the juniors as a stepping stone/post U21 development squad fairly seriously.
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Post by keane on Jun 11, 2016 14:35:29 GMT
They're doing superb work
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Post by inchperfect on Jun 11, 2016 15:13:09 GMT
It's very clear that Eamonn and the selectors are taking the concept of the juniors as a stepping stone/post U21 development squad fairly seriously. Especially when it will change to U20.
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Post by Premier on Jun 12, 2016 16:54:45 GMT
Juniors pulled their legs out of it today
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Post by dingle101 on Jun 13, 2016 0:31:49 GMT
The Juniors made tough work of it today, last years 26 are missed and cant see this team retaining their All Ireland Crown. Was impressed with the keeper Darragh O'Shea, Could see him in the senior jersey in the near future if his progress continues.
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Post by buck02 on Jun 13, 2016 8:51:03 GMT
The Limerick corner forward shot an amazing 11 points, 5 from play, off both feet. It was tough luck on him to be on the losing side.
Adrian Spillane did his best against two strong men in the middle for Limerick, Paul O Donoghue was good in patches and Niall Se always caused problems when they got the ball into him. That was the problem however, getting the ball into him.
I must say I expected a little more from the likes of Cathal Luing & Liam Carey. Maybe the fact that they are young and Limerick appeared older and more physical was the reason.
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Post by givehimaball on Jun 13, 2016 11:54:24 GMT
I'd love to know how many training sessions the juniors have had as they looked very much an assemblage of players as opposed to a team.
In attack I thought the movement of the players was shocking in terms of how static players were when they weren't in possession.
No-one was making any sort of decent support runs or taking up decent positions to offer options to the the man in possession.
There was also a serious lack of urgency/tempo to the performance which I was surprised at - (the ref definitely didn't help with this)
I'd be hopeful that this game and a couple more training sessions should meld them a bit more as a team although it's only 2 and a bit weeks to the final.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 16:47:08 GMT
I didn't see all of the but they looked poor to be honest. Didn't look like they trained that much together. Paul o Donoghue and Niall o Shea looked good in attack. Midfield were well beaten so there has to be change there. The backs were poor enough. I think some changes will have to be made
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Post by tman59 on Jun 13, 2016 21:26:21 GMT
Throughout the game a supporter told me that Wallace dropped 3 of his players because they wanted to play for their club the night before. All subs. I think this was a disgrace by Wallace!! At the end of the day it's a Joke of a competition and county league probably means more to the players than the juniors. Some think it's a big thing but means nothing at all!
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Post by Premier on Jun 13, 2016 22:45:58 GMT
Throughout the game a supporter told me that Wallace dropped 3 of his players because they wanted to play for their club the night before. All subs. I think this was a disgrace by Wallace!! At the end of the day it's a Joke of a competition and county league probably means more to the players than the juniors. Some think it's a big thing but means nothing at all! The players who have progressed on to the Kerry seniors would beg to differ
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jun 14, 2016 6:39:33 GMT
Throughout the game a supporter told me that Wallace dropped 3 of his players because they wanted to play for their club the night before. All subs. I think this was a disgrace by Wallace!! At the end of the day it's a Joke of a competition and county league probably means more to the players than the juniors. Some think it's a big thing but means nothing at all! Don't be like this- keep working hard and you never know, they might look past your pettiness and call you back in
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Post by interested on Jun 14, 2016 7:34:53 GMT
If the County Board were serious about the juniors, county league games would not have been fixed for the night before.
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Post by onlykerry on Jun 14, 2016 8:52:09 GMT
Two Issues from previous comments. 1/ The honour to pull on a Kerry jersey at any grade should be appreciated by the few that are chosen. 2/ Until the fixture list is sorted and a meaningful schedule produced this type of problem will continue. Why it is taking 6 weeks (or thereabouts) to play a series of early round games in the provinces is crazy. All Provincial finals should be on same weekend, two weeks after all semi finals etc - no replays until AI series (if even then). Stop pulling amateur players in multiple directions - club, county, and their own lives.
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Post by Premier on Jun 14, 2016 9:04:30 GMT
Two Issues from previous comments. 1/ The honour to pull on a Kerry jersey at any grade should be appreciated by the few that are chosen. 2/ Until the fixture list is sorted and a meaningful schedule produced this type of problem will continue. Why it is taking 6 weeks (or thereabouts) to play a series of early round games in the provinces is crazy. All Provincial finals should be on same weekend, two weeks after all semi finals etc - no replays until AI series (if even then). Stop pulling amateur players in multiple directions - club, county, and their own lives. The argument against this is that the inter county season would be too short and that our greatest sport isn't getting the exposure it deserves to advance the game. Also TV runs the schedule so you're swimming against the tide here
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Post by buck02 on Jun 14, 2016 10:45:05 GMT
Throughout the game a supporter told me that Wallace dropped 3 of his players because they wanted to play for their club the night before. All subs. I think this was a disgrace by Wallace!! At the end of the day it's a Joke of a competition and county league probably means more to the players than the juniors. Some think it's a big thing but means nothing at all! Well you could see how much it meant to Wallace when he turned to the stand with hands aloft after Spillane's goal with the adoration of the crowd pouring down upon him.
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Post by buck02 on Jun 14, 2016 10:45:48 GMT
If the County Board were serious about the juniors, county league games would not have been fixed for the night before. Yes because thats exactly what we need, less club football during the summer.
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Post by interested on Jun 14, 2016 12:17:23 GMT
If the County Board were serious about the juniors, county league games would not have been fixed for the night before. Yes because thats exactly what we need, less club football during the summer.
Never said anything about less club football just not clashing with junior fixtures, plenty more dates available ! I'm sure the clubs with junior players would have preferred to have them for the league game.
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Post by neilesflynn on Jun 14, 2016 13:56:07 GMT
Throughout the game a supporter told me that Wallace dropped 3 of his players because they wanted to play for their club the night before. All subs. I think this was a disgrace by Wallace!! At the end of the day it's a Joke of a competition and county league probably means more to the players than the juniors. Some think it's a big thing but means nothing at all! Well you could see how much it meant to Wallace when he turned to the stand with hands aloft after Spillane's goal with the adoration of the crowd pouring down upon him. What are you saying Wallace was wrong as a manger to celebrate his team scoring the winning goal!!!! And the experts on the terrace is a solid place to get all the inside information on the team!!! You should have asked him for the lotto numbers as well!!
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Post by onlykerry on Jun 14, 2016 16:08:24 GMT
If the County Board were serious about the juniors, county league games would not have been fixed for the night before. But clubs regularly play without their senior players - last weekend included. Why do you argue against this with the juniors - surely the honour of playing intercounty for Kerry is a great accolade for both player and his club.
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Post by tman59 on Jun 14, 2016 17:08:04 GMT
If the County Board were serious about the juniors, county league games would not have been fixed for the night before. But clubs regularly play without their senior players - last weekend included. Why do you argue against this with the juniors - surely the honour of playing intercounty for Kerry is a great accolade for both player and his club. So your saying it's ok for trams to be without their senior Kerry players and their juniors?? It's a complete joke that teams are made play without these players. Do you think Fitzmaurice even watches the games or cares about them? Probably not. I blame the county board, they clearly don't care about the clubs.
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Post by hurlingman on Jun 14, 2016 17:15:42 GMT
But clubs regularly play without their senior players - last weekend included. Why do you argue against this with the juniors - surely the honour of playing intercounty for Kerry is a great accolade for both player and his club. So your saying it's ok for trams to be without their senior Kerry players and their juniors?? It's a complete joke that teams are made play without these players. Do you think Fitzmaurice even watches the games or cares about them? Probably not. I blame the county board, they clearly don't care about the clubs. Considering that a member of last year's team was playing Sunday I'm pretty sure he takes some notice of it
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Post by tman59 on Jun 14, 2016 17:26:39 GMT
Who would that be then?
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Post by hurlingman on Jun 14, 2016 19:12:02 GMT
Really? I'm not sure if you're just trolling or not
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Post by inforthebreaks on Jun 15, 2016 9:30:50 GMT
Stephen Wallace had a right go this morning in the Kerryman at some of the club managers - unnamed - that he said it was disgusting how they carried on with the co. junior set up.
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Post by givehimaball on Jun 15, 2016 10:41:55 GMT
Out of the 15 who started the junior final last year 4 have since gone on to play with the seniors in either the league of championship already. Tadgh Morley Philip O'Connor Brendan O'Sullivan Conor Cox That's before you consider there is a fair few more who have been around the training panel as well and/or those who have a reasonable enough shout of being involved down the road due to their young age. Maybe you are one of those who think the juniors is not that important but I'd imagine you would be struggling to find all that many who would agree with you.
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Post by lár na páirce on Jun 15, 2016 11:08:08 GMT
Out of the 15 who started the junior final last year 4 have since gone on to play with the seniors in either the league of championship already. Tadgh Morley Philip O'Connor Brendan O'Sullivan Conor Cox That's before you consider there is a fair few more who have been around the training panel as well and/or those who have a reasonable enough shout of being involved down the road due to their young age. Maybe you are one of those who think the juniors is not that important but I'd imagine you would be struggling to find all that many who would agree with you. To be honest i doubt Fitzmaurice is watching the Juniors to unearth players,I'd be fairly confident that Brendan O Sullivan was called up on his County championship performances,Similar to Jaime O Sullivan,Podge Connor etc.. I don't believe Junior players should be banned from playing with their clubs and maybe the future of this competition should be played mid-week.
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Post by tman59 on Jun 15, 2016 17:19:47 GMT
Out of the 15 who started the junior final last year 4 have since gone on to play with the seniors in either the league of championship already. Tadgh Morley Philip O'Connor Brendan O'Sullivan Conor Cox That's before you consider there is a fair few more who have been around the training panel as well and/or those who have a reasonable enough shout of being involved down the road due to their young age. Maybe you are one of those who think the juniors is not that important but I'd imagine you would be struggling to find all that many who would agree with you. Brendan o Sillivan didn't even start for the juniors! Conor Cox is probably one of the county most talented young players he was always going to be in there at one stage. Tadgh Morley has been playing well with his club and district in the bigger competitions so that's why he is called. Philip o Connor was dropped from Kerry lady year and thrown into the juniors. As stated above fitz dosnt care one bit about the juniors. Sure teams like Dublin don't even compete in it . Hence why Kerry win it most years. If it was a big thing more county teams would enter it.
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Post by hurlingman on Jun 15, 2016 18:25:52 GMT
Out of the 15 who started the junior final last year 4 have since gone on to play with the seniors in either the league of championship already. Tadgh Morley Philip O'Connor Brendan O'Sullivan Conor Cox That's before you consider there is a fair few more who have been around the training panel as well and/or those who have a reasonable enough shout of being involved down the road due to their young age. Maybe you are one of those who think the juniors is not that important but I'd imagine you would be struggling to find all that many who would agree with you. To be honest i doubt Fitzmaurice is watching the Juniors to unearth players,I'd be fairly confident that Brendan O Sullivan was called up on his County championship performances,Similar to Jaime O Sullivan,Podge Connor etc.. I don't believe Junior players should be banned from playing with their clubs and maybe the future of this competition should be played mid-week. Its not so long ago you were telling us that JB Spillane was going to be the next big thing so we cant trust everything yuo say....
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Post by hurlingman on Jun 15, 2016 18:35:47 GMT
Out of the 15 who started the junior final last year 4 have since gone on to play with the seniors in either the league of championship already. Tadgh Morley Philip O'Connor Brendan O'Sullivan Conor Cox That's before you consider there is a fair few more who have been around the training panel as well and/or those who have a reasonable enough shout of being involved down the road due to their young age. Maybe you are one of those who think the juniors is not that important but I'd imagine you would be struggling to find all that many who would agree with you. Brendan o Sillivan didn't even start for the juniors! Conor Cox is probably one of the county most talented young players he was always going to be in there at one stage. Tadgh Morley has been playing well with his club and district in the bigger competitions so that's why he is called. Philip o Connor was dropped from Kerry lady year and thrown into the juniors. As stated above fitz dosnt care one bit about the juniors. Sure teams like Dublin don't even compete in it . Hence why Kerry win it most years. If it was a big thing more county teams would enter it. What in gods name are you on about? Brendan O Sullivan was midfield for the juniors last year. Also Philip O’Connor played in the league this year. Kerry win it most years? 4 times in the last 25 years... If you're going to try to go on a rant at least get your facts right first
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